Ubatuba Sample

I Confront The Secretary of Energy On UFOs

American Alchemy (Podcast)Oct 7, 2026

Former Reagan Secretary of Energy John S. Herrington, who oversaw America's nuclear weapons complex from 1985 to 1989, goes on the record about Cold War secrets, from a stealth fighter hidden in his budget to Edward Teller's nuclear-powered space laser and a covert Taiwanese nuclear weapons program the U.S. shut down. He also takes on the UFO question directly, saying the Navy's UAP videos are real while calling a Reagan-era alien story from screenwriter Brent Friedman 'total B.S.' and challenging whistleblower David Grusch to produce hard evidence. The episode covers UFOs at nuclear sites, Garry Nolan's Ubatuba sample, Reagan's 1974 sighting, and an alleged Department of Energy 'Roswell hazing ritual.'