36.13 - MU Podcast - MU Interviews - Charlie Robinson - 002

Summary

Author and Macroaggressions host Charlie Robinson joins Mysterious Universe to discuss his new book, The Octopus of Population Control, the follow-up to The Octopus of Global Control. He argues that two separate elite factions are pursuing depopulation for different reasons: an Anglo-American establishment managing populations for its industries, and a group he labels Sabbatean-Frankists, whom he claims are driven by occult belief. These are contested claims, and some of them, such as the 'Kalergi Plan,' are widely documented antisemitic conspiracy theories. Robinson also questions official population figures for India and China and warns listeners to pull money out of banks because of G20 'bail-in' rules.

Key takeaways

• 1Robinson self-published The Octopus of Global Control in August 2017 without telling his wife. His other books include Hypocrisy and one co-written with Anarchapulco founder Jeff Berwick.
• 2Tony Merkel of The Confessionals podcast helped launch Macroaggressions in March 2020.
• 3Robinson MCs Anarchapulco, which bills itself as the largest anarchist conference in the world. After 11 years in Acapulco, it has moved to Puerto Vallarta.
• 4He cites the Stanford Prison Experiment and the Milgram-style shock studies as evidence that people easily obey authority.
• 5He claims his friend Kev Baker died after being pressured into a COVID vaccine while on a lung transplant list in Glasgow.
• 6He quotes Zbigniew Brzezinski as saying it is now easier to kill a million people than to control them. The quote is attributed, not verified.
• 7He names two alleged depopulation factions. The first is the 'WASP' group: the Milner Round Table, Cecil Rhodes, Galton, Huxley, the Fabians, the Rockefellers, the Vatican, Operation Paperclip Nazis and the WEF. The second is a group he calls 'Sabbatean-Frankists,' which he links to Epstein, Maxwell, Wexner, Chabad and the Rothschilds. He claims the two groups cooperated on 9/11. These are unsubstantiated allegations, and the second category echoes antisemitic conspiracy tropes.
• 8He presents a quote he attributes to Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi. Researchers regard that quote as fabricated; it does not appear in Kalergi's writings. He also cites a 2010 Israeli TV interview with Barbara Lerner Spectre about multiculturalism in Europe.
• 9He claims India's 1.6 billion and China's 1+ billion population figures are inflated. For India, he cites roughly 650 million active cell phones. For China, he cites famines and the one-child policy.
• 10He warns that the bank 'bail-in' rules endorsed by the G20 in 2014 could let banks seize depositors' money. He points to recent remarks by Ursula von der Leyen about savings in European banks.

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Transcript excerpt

Welcome to Mysterious Universe, season 36, episode number 13. We're going to go ahead and interrupt our regularly scheduled saga here for a cool interview that we did with a cool guy named Charlie Robinson. And he's awesome. And we had a blast. Joe, what did you think about that? Oh, it's always fun to get together with Charlie. I think we mentioned it, but he's been a long time, you know, podcasting friend and just a legend in book writing and podcasting himself. And just an all-around cool, very intelligent guy, very well-spoken. And I mean, he has stories for days. He didn't even get to 1% of the stories this guy could tell that I was going to ask him about, but maybe next time. But what did you think about it? We'll save it. We have plenty to talk to him for next time. It was just awesome. Of course, we originally got him on for his new book, The Octopus of Population Control, which is a follow-up to his book, The Octopus of Global Control. He has four books total. They're all going to be linked down below so you guys can check it out, as well as Macroaggressions, his website, his podcast, all the stuff. Like Joe said here, we've known him for years and just an awesome dude to get on Pattern Interrupt and hang out and talk about some really cool shit. But in the free bit here, we talk about his books up top and his podcast career, how he got into that anarchy, first of all, because we need to figure out what that means. We talked about the Stanford Prison Research Experiments, global population numbers. So are there really 8 billion freaking people here and why that matters? ...

Excerpt from Mysterious Universe, Oct 2, 2026. Rights remain with the original creators. Hear the full episode at the source.