Aaron Murakami | Alternative Energy Invention Updates, The Multi Wave Oscillator, & Aether Physics

have a plan there's clearly maybe something there beyond the realm of man and until we've thoroughly tested every last close tested view i find the more we think we know the less we really do let chat show greg carwood and company let there be light from the sunshine state i'm greg carwood and while we're all told a fairy tale about one-way industrial and scientific progress anyone taking a more critical look at the industries of energy and medicine in particular quickly realizes that a much more accurate description is that decades ago robber barons and corporate monopolies circled their wagons around highly controllable fuel sources centralized delivery systems and patentable drugs and launched a propaganda campaign against any and all alternatives that has been so effective that most people don't know there ever were alternatives the brightest minds in the fields are essentially erased from history and the mysterious deaths that plague the wide range of inventors of alternative and often superior technologies are suspiciously left uninvestigated well the truth can be slowed but it can never really be stopped and in recent years a whole range of old patents forgotten names and suppressed inventions have bubbled back up to a new level of awareness where curious and talented minds are trying to bring back some of the most hopeful work from the past improve upon it and use their more open-minded understandings of natural systems to create totally new and promising technologies at the forefront of all of this is of course returning guest aaron murakami as he's the man behind e-media press and the energy science and technology conference both the best places i know for the latest information presentations and live demonstrations anywhere when it comes to tesla tech ether sciences alternative energy and a wide range of things that could radically change reality as we know it he has also authored and produced various ebooks and educational films including the quantum key a course in mind power ignition secrets water fuel secrets the synchronicity handbook red light power hacking the ether electro biohacking cold electricity high voltage and machine how to build a jet engine the home energy savings guide and others he's been here several times before once on his own to lay the groundwork in 2018 to other times to bring us the living tesla himself eric dollard and again in 2022 to present us with jeremiah for worda who is working hard to revive the tesla turbine well with a wide range of new stuff to talk about i'm happy to be doing it again the ether physics educator tesla tech teacher and suppressed science resurrector aaron welcome back thanks so much greg appreciate you having me on the show yeah it is a pleasure i do love keeping tabs on this space and you're the best guy i know to get updates on these things from it's probably best to get updates on things the audience might remember from previous interviews and the big one there is eric dollard he's definitely captured the attention of a big part of this audience and has certainly brought up a ton of things that i think about regularly the intentional vulnerability of our centralized electrical grid the time he made a galaxy the time a little plasma bean of light emerged during an experiment the seismic and audio amplifier and a range of damn near magical things that really do make him a modern tesla archetype what's the latest from eric and his work what might people be interested to know so eric's lab so this is epd laboratories inc that's his initials that stands for eric paul dollard epd laboratories inc is a 501c3 non-profit registered down in nevada and so it's a non-profit organization of further electrical sciences and of course eric dollard who is considered to be more knowledgeable about the nature of electricity than any human being alive as you mentioned he is seen as the modern day tesla this organization is supported solely on donations and donations are tax deductible people can learn more about his site and a lot of the updates of what we're doing down there on eric p dollard dot com and there's a donate link where people can donate by check or money orders or they can donate by paypal so several times a year these donations help to provide the funding for kind of a group of our team members who get together and work on different projects one of them which was worked on with i believe connor fisher and griffin brock and haka says has been related to some of the earth transmission experiments so a lot of people who's followed tesla's work is familiar generally with the idea that tesla was sending electricity through the ground in a certain way there is a lot of misunderstandings about really what he was doing with these so-called magnifying transmitting towers in colorado or in warden cliff new york but in any case it can these type of methods known as longitudinal propagation versus transverse waves which go through the airwaves and are limited by the speed of light these longitudinal transmission can be sent through the earth but they don't have the same type of characteristics they can go from point a to point b in a way that seems to greatly exceed the so-called speed of light because technically there's no velocity it's going through what's known as counter space in one certain model that eric is developing from his point of view where it's basically instantaneous and so one of the recent experiments i would say within the last nine months or so is for only about probably less than five watts they were able to transmit some radio transmissions through the earth at over a couple hundred miles i mean five watts is like a strong flashlight and this was being broadcast from tonopah nevada it's about maybe two and a half hours northwest of las vegas tonopah is this interesting little town at the northwest corner kind of where the area 51 is there's a so-called secret base out there off the highway near this old sandia labs base where they developed the b2 bomber and from tonopah the earth transmissions at only a few watts was picked up all the way into death valley there's this little town called keeler where one of our friends and associates who eric's known for a long time steve mcgreevey who is kind of famous for his little receivers that can pick up all these interesting earth sounds these little whistlers and clicks and pops from the aurora borealis and all these natural sounds that are around us but you can't hear it unless you have these type of receivers he lives i believe down in keeler and so they were doing some experiments with the receiver down there and were able to pick these signals up loud and clear being broadcast from tonopah that's pretty astounding some of the other experiments going on or some of the other work is that right near the lab in tonopah there's some land behind it that we have a right of way to which is about maybe a mile and a half that's a lot of land and it goes right past this mountain where there's some seismographs that were considered obsolete and abandoned i believe by the university in las vegas or university of nevada or something like that and epd laboratories inc is now the ones who have had these seismographs in this mine there's three of them this is for measuring the actual earth vibrations in three different axis x y and z and then these lines go right past that all the way up this hill to this little shack at the top of the hill where it is broadcasting like weather data and that kind of stuff well this whole antenna structure is basically telephone poles with this old type of telephone wire and it's not spanning the entire one and a half miles it's spanning maybe three quarters of a mile right now maybe close to a mile and it's a straight wire known as a beverage antenna i believe i don't have the radio background like eric and them but this type of antenna is intended not to receive transverse electromagnetic radio waves like what is typically transmitted through the airwaves from a transmitter to a receiver those type of transmissions are subject to what's known as the inverse square law that means the strength of these radio waves diminished by the square of the distance so it's like throwing a ball in the air it goes a certain distance and it'll start you know having less and less energy as it until it hits the ground well radio waves through the airwaves is kind of the same way but this antenna is meant to pick up the electrostatic impulses from the earth and the environment around it and the earth is always emitting these little clicks and pops and stuff and these are not electromagnetic in nature they're electrostatic and these electrostatic type of impulses or signals emanating from the earth are part of the data that is required to form kind of a complete picture in order to forecast when an earthquake is coming so this is an attempt to kind of replicate what eric had down in landers california years ago which is right almost across the street from the famous integratron that dome looking building that has a lot of mythology and stuff behind it but at landers she had a full-scale facility which was probably the most comprehensive most advanced radio signal and earth signal and so forth station in private hands outside of the military this is all taken away from eric and there was a bunch of drama and everything years ago with all this and so what's going on near tonopob by the lab is an effort to at least rebuild a part of this which is for the seismic forecasting system so that antenna is to pick up the above and below ground earth signals and then you look at the mechanical vibrations from the seismographs in the mine and then you can also monitor a certain centimeter flux emanating from the sun and the more data you put together you can see how they all kind of correspond together they all kind of move together and when an earthquake 6.0 and above is about to hit they all reach kind of this crescendo and you know with practically a hundred percent certainty that there will be an earthquake 6.0 and above with one station you know that an earthquake is coming if you have a second station elsewhere doing the same thing then you can spatially locate not only that it's going to happen but where it's going to happen so we're just in a process of those lines got finished now there's some things that are needing to be done inside of the shack at the top of the hill then we need to have a little facility right outside the entrance of the mine where these signals are going to all these receivers and stuff and then this is all going to be broadcast online there's going to be free accounts and then paid accounts but even before it gets to that point just with some of the basic signals that we're receiving the goal is to short term possibly use these there's like these wi-fi type radios so it's all digital which eric completely cannot stand anything digital you know it's the work of the devil yeah and so it's a completely different thing from the analog world because the analog world is real and all this electronic stuff is a fictitional representation of what's real but in any case if we can get these wi-fi broadcasters to receive these signals and broadcast them through wi-fi or something to the building then short term we can take those and make those available on the website and so right now that's what's in the works most of the work is done so eric's estimate is that by the end of the summer with haka says and i think conor fisher who has been recently helping epd labs over the last year or so he came to the last conference 2023 and griffin brock who he's done a lot of presentations that are available on emediapress.com a lot of tesla stuff his own simplified version of the electrodynamic seismic forecasting which this is all kind of under that umbrella so we think that we can actually have these signals online in their basic form yeah hopefully by the end of the summer interesting i do recall eric talking about that and saying that not only might there be applications for much better detection of earthquakes but also transmitting signals as you say almost instantaneously through the ground faster than through the air and he also said there was some fidelity benefits to sounds if you were to maybe use um this technology for transmitting music even it sounds pretty amazing and he went pretty deep on it last time it's good to know he's still working on that and getting closer to it let me jump over to jeremiah for worda so we went deep on the tesla turbine a few years ago 2022 and how a temperature differential can spin a turbine that creates the energy and he talked about this being able to scale up to a home or even a power plant and it can use any form of heat to create that difference that's what's so exciting about what he's working on geothermal gas diesel and lawn clippings weeds garbage anything even solar or heat from a home stove or fireplace anything that creates a heat differential and it sounded pretty incredible and i believe he felt at the time of that interview that he was only a year or so from market with a commercial product totally viable well what's the latest on him and what he's doing he's actually at the shop as we speak right now putting new bearings in the test turbine that was demonstrated at 2023 conference and we've come quite a ways since then we're hammering on this pretty much non-stop so yeah with the heat differential that you're talking about it's interesting because with this size of turbine the disks inside of the tesla turbine and if anybody hasn't familiarized themselves with the tesla turbine it's basically the most efficient turbine in the world and the advantage is that you can actually utilize this turbine at a very small scale in a way that to reach these kind of efficiencies you normally need a turbine that's like bigger than my house because as you scale it down there's all these different losses that the tesla turbine doesn't have so it's ideal for what's considered micro turbine scale but micro turbines can be considered all the way up to a quarter megawatt that's 250 000 watts but we're only talking about maybe one or two kilowatts you know just on the small scale level because the average u.s home uses roughly about one kilowatt 24 hours a day so that's 24 kilowatts in a day so if you have 10 100 watt incandescent light bulbs burning at any given time that represents the average load of a u.s home so it's not tens of thousands of watts that somebody needs to get off the grid and all this it's really not that much so with this turbine being small scale the tests that have been done over the last year it's looking like the turbine efficiency itself is over 90 possibly over 95 efficient which is completely mind-blowing so there's a distinction between the efficiencies see there's the efficiency of the turbine itself which is the efficiency and converting the steam into rotary motion you know then we have a generator on it to produce electricity then of course if there's a generator on it that's going to chew down the efficiency of the turbine a little bit but since the turbine's 90 percent efficient and the generator is 90 percent efficient then you're getting most of what that turbine's able to produce but with a turbine that's over 90 percent efficient the thing is is okay even though the turbine is at a high efficiency what is the efficiency of the cycle that you're running it at the cycle that we've been doing for the last few years throughout all this development it's known as a cryophorus system which means you have a sealed system where you have a hot tank and the hot tank has a pipe network submerged in some hot oil where it's isolated from that hot oil which can be heated by fire you know a propane burner it could be heated by solar evacuated tubes which are meant for you know heating hot water but you can have some type of heating oil going through there to heat it up where you have a tank reservoir with this hot fluid when the pipe network is sitting inside of that let's say it's at 350 degrees that's kind of our target temperature well the wood stove is easily operating at five to six hundred degrees in a home like a wood burning insert or whatever so 350 degrees is really not that much heat that's 150 200 degrees cooler than what most wood stoves are going to be burning throughout the winter so that pipe network is really really hot well as soon as a little valve opens and it lets a little bit of water going into that pipe network it's hitting this pipe which is at 300 something degrees which means it's aggressively going to steam increase in pressure and that pressure goes through and it drives the turbine discs and then the steam goes out of the turbine and then it goes into a condenser the condenser we're using is a big three core aluminum performance radiator for one of these big 7.2 liter duramax engines so it's basically a big performance racing rated or whatever and then it condenses that okay let me ask you this so for the layman so i just got a generator here because we had a terrible hurricane last year and i didn't want that to happen again when we lost power i got two little kids just can't deal with it so got a generator generac you know the pretty standard one that anybody gets from costco it's like the number one company so when they opened that up i didn't know what it was going to look like inside i'd have no generator experience but it looked like a car engine it just runs on propane and it looks like a car engine under that hood i don't know much about the efficiency compared to what jeremiah's working on but help me out there so conventional generator versus what he's doing you said 90 efficiency how much efficiency does a generac have for example so the efficiency has gone up a little bit especially with these inverter type what's known as inverter generators but let's just take an old school one something somebody you know one of these old gas generator sets you put gasoline in it it runs one of these little engines the engine is turning a generator and you're putting out ac sine wave power and some of them have little converters to have little dc power these are putting out hundreds of watts up to thousands of watts so those my guess is probably about maybe 14 15 percent efficient which is completely horrible and it's compared to automobile engines a lot of the cars on the road are probably about maybe 17 percent efficient some of the newer cars can be up to 30 but electric solar panels are 17 percent efficient and people think that that's sustainable right so that really helps i think the layman understand the differences we're talking about here but you know you and i like i said we've been doing interviews for quite a long time i forgot what i said with the the initial one was 2018 now this is a lot of time we're talking about seven years and i love the stuff you guys are working on i've always wanted to go to a conference you know it just didn't line up with my move and having kids and this and that and now i'm on the east coast and you're still on the west coast but you said 2023 was the last conference i'm curious why that was the last conference and just what you think the most exciting thing that has happened since we last talked a few years ago has been okay so towards the end of 2023 i decided to take off and not do the 2024 conference because i wanted to focus on product development because there's a handful of products behind the scenes that i've been working on and being that you know when i put on the conference most of the organizing and stuff i'm by myself doing the work of what normally takes a team of four or five people to put together a conference so i wanted to take off early 2024 found out my mom had a terminal illness and so it turned out to be a good choice so it's like something was looking out for me because if i was organizing a conference during helping my mom out all throughout 2024 i wouldn't have done a good job with the conference so i had to be there with my mom i pretty much took off the entire 2024 and i was hardly at the shop at all i basically took off from my company almost the entire year i just stopped in once in a blue moon just to make sure valeria that's jeremiah's wife she's my main employee at the shop and she builds and assembles the majority of the lakowski multi-wave oscillator systems which we manufacture at the shop and i don't know how many people know this but i've almost never taken any income from that that just covers the overhead and the mwo sales those funds go to supporting the projects like the tesla turbine that's where the funding comes from for all that so since i wasn't able to do a whole lot in 2024 getting towards the end of 2024 i'm thinking well i don't foresee myself doing a conference in 2025 so my mom passed early 2024 and then i have been back at the shop and so in the last six to eight weeks i got more done than in the last six to eight months combined so i'm getting back on my feet getting back onto these projects and my goal is to have a conference in 2026 because there's a few products different technologies that i want to release at that conference and so some of the most promising things that i've seen since our last call so one is a water purification technology this was presented on by paul babcock in i believe it might have been 2015 at one of our conferences that paul babcock he gave a presentation on what's known as electrocoagulation this is using electricity through a type of electric water cell which imparts metallic ions into the water these ions have a certain charge so all the stuff in the water you know for one it'll kill pathogens it'll bind up and neutralize any type of synthetic chemicals like glyphosate pharmaceuticals any kind of nasty chemical like that it'll bind up and neutralize so it doesn't pull the toxins out of the water why it's called coagulation is because these charged little metallic ions all the junk in the water will attach to them little by little by little these coagulants will get bigger bigger bigger this is called flocculent and then pretty soon it starts to materialize in front of your eyes and it looks like all these gel white gel looking clouds floating in the water and after you run it for a while you turn it off and then all this stuff will just gel together and these big clumps will just fall all the way to the bottom and will settle out so the thing about electrocoagulation is it's been around for a hundred years so the technology is not brand new in and of itself but it's always taken a lot of electricity a lot of maintenance it's never been very efficient it's always been used at the commercial level and they've never really found out how to effectively do it small scale so at the first conference in 2012 paul babcock who passed last june or may or so last year that was another reason that some things got put on the back burner throughout the year because we were working simultaneously on several projects and then he died but this electrocoagulation has never been practical for the average person to use well in the 2012 conference which was the first conference paul met a mutual friend of ours who i got to know later on who is an expert in electrocoagulation been doing it for years worked in oil cleanups clean fracking water has been around the world in oil fields from syria to you name it well paul is known for the switching circuit to make this process way more efficient than anybody's ever seen it the switching circuit was used on his motors which produced more mechanical work than the electrical that goes into it because when you have an electromagnetic coil you put electricity into it the electromagnetic coil can push or pull a magnet to do mechanical work but when the switch turns off that magnetic field collapses and you can use it over and over again so you only have to make up for the loss so that type of technology was incorporated in the water circuit and took it to levels that our friend has never seen nor has anybody else for that application so paul did a presentation on a very basic elementary version of the electrocoagulation just showing how in an emergency situation if you had a bucket of water you could put a couple metal plates in the water stainless steel plates run current through it and over a certain period of time the stuff in there will coagulate will drop out so you got water without the impurities at the top which can be pumped out to like a little sediment filter or something and you could be drinking it i'm not going to tell anybody to do that they need to do their research on this but that's the application of it so a couple years ago paul our associate and friend and myself are meeting and we're talking about how to turn this into a small scale unit and so i come up with the principle that i don't really want to mention but what it does is for the first time in history in a century is it allows this technology to be used in a way where it can be small scale use very little electricity technology and this opens the path for this technology to be applied by the average person so simply what my principle is is and typically it's a lot of electricity being put into water the water gets treated and then it goes into a settling pool and then over time all the stuff settles out but if you need a lot of electricity you're talking thousands of watts what if somebody has a solar set up with a battery backup well that's going to kill the battery bank and to have thousands of watts expendable at any given time to run this process is not practical so my method is to take the water and circulate it through the cell over and over and over and over it with small amounts of electricity so if you use small amounts of electricity with the same water over and over and over effectively it's the same as treating it with a lot of electricity in a short period of time you just do a little bit of electricity over a longer period of time and so that changed the game so where we're at with it right now is we've gone through multiple digital control panels to make this all automated you know you click the button you know this has got to be something so ridiculously simple that you can just have it sitting on a kitchen counter push a button six hours later you can press a dispense button and be drinking the water so that's how simple it needs to be and so there's one particular aspect of this we've mastered everything except one little part that was mastered years ago by paul already with the switching circuit he was using at his old company called flyback energy that company was basically taken down by people who invested in it and saved it at the last minute and that company was closed and paul's patents were taken away from him by the people who saved the company and so essentially the method that he was using to eliminate a certain problem dealing with the electrodes in this system always worked the best and eliminated that problem with the original circuit over the last several years the circuit that was used was a variation that paul was kind of using in order to circumvent that proprietary circuit from the old company but it didn't work that good so i'm going back to a method which is currently under development right now and hopefully within about the next couple months i'm going to have the prototype circuit put in my hands that is doing exactly what the original circuit does and if it eliminates this one particular problem that everybody's going to run into i'm not going to spell it out but i can see clearly why people have not been very successful because there's a problem that only paul circuit can fix that i know of and if i test it and it solves that particular issue then we're going to be just a few months away from a commercially viable unit the production ready prototype what it's actually going to look like when a customer buys it so hopefully by the end of the summer i have that in my hands and that's going to be the first product that can go mainstream that i can actually talk about so i can talk about cleaning water but here's the thing about it let's look at how much electricity it takes if you have a countertop distiller that does one gallon at a time those things take 750 watts for about four hours so that's 3 000 watt hours to treat one gallon of water now in the past i was always against drinking distilled water because oh it's going to leach the minerals out of your body and all this kind of stuff yeah that's what they say about ro water right so over time that's true but it will take out toxins it'll detoxify it'll decalcify the body and all these kind of things but it will eventually pull the minerals out so just take trace minerals just take minerals and trace mineral supplement and it takes care of it because all the scaling that happens with water when you're boiling water all the calcium and magnesium and stuff well people talk about how great the aquifer water here is in spokane and we're sitting on one of the most incredible aquifers in the entire country well the thing about it is is those minerals are in rock form and they're not absorbable they're not bioavailable they calcify the joints to calcify arteries to calcify the pineal gland and you name it and so animals over time traditionally drink fresh water which is basically mineral free you know when it's in lakes and whatever it'll pick up some minerals but the source of the water is naturally distilled water that's coming from rain so i can't argue with that they're getting their minerals out of the food that they eat okay so one gallon of water with a distiller is three thousand watt hours well with this water machine i can put in 135 parts per million water from the sink over six hours for only 360 watt hours treating six gallons that's 60 watt hours 60 watt hours for a gallon i can bring it to 80 to 90 parts per million 80 parts per million is considered soft water then what i do is i take that 80 parts per million water i put it through a little five micron sediment filter just to get any little floaties out of it and then i put that through a deionization cartridge and what's coming out of it is essentially lab grade water and i've only expended 60 watt hours versus 3000 so it's using only two percent of the electricity from a distiller but even though it's going through a sediment filter and a deionization cartridge the average family of four needs two gallons per day for drinking and cooking i calculated that to treat two gallons a day for a little deionization cartridge that's only got about maybe eight dollars worth of medium in it and a three dollar sediment cartridge two gallons a day will treat you can do it 365 days without replacing that cartridge which means the average family of four is only going to have maintenance of maybe 25 including one extra thing that needs to be replaced in the machine so maybe 25 a year takes maybe half an hour and it only costs 60 watts per gallon to treat one gallon versus 3000 watts which means if it takes 60 gallons or 60 watts per gallon that means you can have a 100 watt solar panel treating whatever water source you want to provide the average family with pure clean drinking water this will treat rain water you filter mud through cheesecloth it'll treat mud it can treat gray water in an rv it can treat rain water you can scoop water out of a lake lake quarter lane is toxed out with heavy metals and stuff most settled at the bottom but you're not going to want to drink that and half a day i could take six gallons water out of there put it through my system and you could be drinking it in like eight hours river water it'll kill cryptosporidium it'll kill amoebas and parasites and whatever's in the water and what's important about this i'm looking at survival technologies what are we going to do to self-sustain because if the you know what hits the fan no matter what's happening down the road see my priority in a lot of this is what technologies can we utilize to survive and move forward with what kind of technologies can we be self-sustainable with if we can get these to market and we can make some money great but that comes secondary to the fact that we just have to refine these down to basically rebuild after a big crash because i'm looking at that as a very realistic scenario but if we can get these out to market and that doesn't happen then great but in both cases these technologies still have to be developed that's why my focus on the tesla turbine if you're in a cabin burning wood you can create even if it's just a thousand watts that's amazing and it actually doesn't really matter what the efficiency is the efficiency on a tesla turbine can be one percent efficient and it doesn't matter and the reason is is because you can't find one other technology on planet earth right now that you can take the heat from a wood stove and produce enough electricity to charge a battery bank and this is not theoretical we demoed it at the conference and we're way beyond that right now with what we're working on so that's a practical technology and if it's one percent efficient it doesn't matter because there's nothing else that lets you utilize that heat to make electricity this water technology is very practical it works it's been demonstrated we're just trying to make it practical for the average homeowner but if not and they want to do a little bit of extra maintenance in a survival situation if you got to you know spend an hour a week on maintenance it doesn't matter because you're winding up with clean drinkable water from any water source so we're already there that's not a problem but to make it so that somebody doesn't have to do anything for a year that's what the next step is and hopefully i have that resolved by the next few months so the tesla turbine coming to completion the water technology and then there's the next two in the mix one is my plasma ignition which i've been dying to put into production for many years since i invented it back in 2007 2008 and the other one is putting john badini's solar charge controllers and battery chargers back into production okay so let me write those down because i don't want to forget to revisit them but i wanted to spend a little time on the multi-wave oscillator this is something that's available now and it's on the website and see that's what i think some people might say like i understand donations are important donations help the thing go and there's just a lot of people out there wanting donations and people have to assess if they have a little extra money like where should it go this is a good application i would say but also if you can create viable products and bring them to market i mean this becomes a a self-fulfilling recyclable profitable situation so i love to see you guys getting some things out there and the multi-wave oscillator is available so when your conference first started the original name was the badini lindeman energy conference so both peter lindeman and john badini should be honored in any conversation about this stuff and i understand that both those guys and eric dollard all worked on something called a multi-wave oscillator or mwo originally developed by georges lohovsky a russian scientist who died in 1942 so we're going back a ways some say it was a mysterious death i've read but with this device for people who are just listening it's a set of charged copper rings and you sit between them now i know that you and the guys mentioned working on this and replicating it and improving upon it you make no claims whatsoever it's just a device for research purposes but apparently lachovsky claimed that his multi-wave oscillator from 100 years ago could cure autoimmune diseases and cancer by exposing cells to a combination of radio frequencies sort of the opposite of a rife device which would target tumors with frequency this restores the millivolts of the cell of the body i read this on another website this is all just context for people but maybe you agree with this but this will be how people can maybe wrap their heads around it so this website says diseased or weakened cells tend to vibrate out of sync with the rest of the body reducing electrical charge a normal healthy cell has an electrical potential of approximately 70 millivolts cancer about 15 millivolts when the cell has millivolt electrical potential problems the cell starts to malfunction by strengthening the field of each cell separately all organs tissues and therefore the entire human body are strengthened nobel prize winner otto warberg proved that the cell at birth has a potential between 70 and 90 millivolts with age its potential potential decreases and for a 70 year old man it averages about 35 millivolts then the energy of the life force sinks so is that a pretty good summary of what the claims used to be not your claims but the original guy who made the things claims and how similar is this device you know this is kind of exciting stuff talk to us about this yeah so that's a pretty good overview of what lakovsky's device is and what he claimed it can do among other things i do want to point out there is a new page on the website so the multi-wave oscillators that our company produces is on vril.io v-r-i-l dot i-o vril is an old term for like life force energy and there's a product link on there that if you mouse over there'll be a little drop down and you can see the multi-wave oscillator link some of the back story between you know peter lineman and john bedini who you mentioned over all these years with e-media press we never had an about us page and i just put one up a few days ago so on e-media press.com that's where you know the downloadable book and videos there's over 200 of them there's now a about us link in the main menu bar and if you click on that you can kind of see you know where i was inspired where this came from and when i was working with peter and the conference and all this so that kind of gives a kind of a chronology and a history that hasn't really been posted anywhere else so with the lakovsky multi-wave oscillator my company manufactures these and has been for about the last seven years or so and like you mentioned there's absolutely no claims it's only sold as a research only unit so you can study how george lakovsky was actually making his multi-wave oscillators what kind of waveforms it puts out and there's a lot of different experiments you can do with it so lakovsky over the years nobody really actually knew what the lakovsky circuit was there's a patent that people know about with a single ring antenna system but his production units had no resemblance basically to that patent diagram that patent diagram just showed kind of a concept and had some claims and whatever but he had these production units i think it was under the brand name coysla or something like that like c-o-y-l-s-a or something like that so over the years there's somebody named bob beck who has been involved in a lot of different you know his own little zapper type technologies and bob beck he's the one way back who actually got the conversation about the lakovsky mwo going on at one time bob beck funded eric dollard for some projects many years ago so bob beck was one of these characters who kind of had a wide network of people into all kinds of alternative energy alternative healing technologies and you name it and so this was maybe in the 80s or so 80s to early 90s borderland science research foundation who had peter lindemann eric dollard and some others they had put out some books and videos about the lakovsky multi-wave oscillator giving their theory and ideas about it and they had different versions that were kind of working but they weren't really the original one and there were other companies that were coming out with different so-called multi-wave oscillators but they were all speculative devices because of the patent diagram and nobody actually knew what it was i'm not going to name the names but there's one in new zealand and netherlands that's always brought up to my attention neither one of them have any resemblance to lakovsky's real circuit okay so here comes borderlands and over the years these different companies are manufacturing so-called mwo's but it wasn't until about maybe 13 years ago or so these european engineers got connected with somebody who had access to some original crated up units they uncrated them they reverse engineered them put out a report and so for the first time in decades and decades and decades it was the first time ever that anybody had actually known what lakovsky's circuit was so the very first person to put it into commercial production was a friend of mine's vanimir rudemino in croatia who's a brilliant engineer and he's the one that built a lot of these little scale model tesla demonstration units that are in the museums over in that part of the world he helped me with a lot of stuff way back in the past he got connected with these guys who came out with this reverse engineering report put out a multi-wave oscillator that's absolutely brilliant it's pretty expensive but it's a museum piece but it's built in the spirit of the old original unit i mean the pulse modulator is maybe about four feet high all he weighs about 300 pounds i know because my friend in seattle bought one brought it over because he couldn't get it to work luckily it was just a fuse that was blown out but pulling that out of the back of his van took two of us you know as a beautiful unit he built it based on the specifications in that report and there's three main units one is called a bv1 a bv2 and a bv3 each one has different diameter you know the largest ring is at a different diameter the coils and the pulse cap network inside the pulse modulator is tuned for a different frequency bv2 is right in the middle and so his model is based on that so zvonimir who's known as lighty l-i-g-h-t-y way back in the energetic forum one of my websites who used to be a contributor back then that was his unit so that was the one and only and first commercially available multi-wave oscillator based on the real design all the others are fake literally so then there was a guy in michigan or wisconsin who was making maybe one or two multi-wave oscillators based on those plans this was a handful of years ago he stopped maybe five or six years ago and retired and then peter lineman got a hold of one of those units because lady in california had one donated it to peter peter studied it brought it out to paul's shop fly back energy years ago so this is maybe 14 15 years ago or something and peter was experimenting with it and using it and peter got a copy of that book i mean paul got a copy of that reverse engineering report built his own had it at flyback energy had it at his home so he was experimenting with it and so for a period of about two years i observed this for about two years watching peter's unit and paul's unit multi-wave oscillator built exactly to spec of the real units and then i decided you know what this is from what i'm witnessing i decided that these should be in a production to make a more readily available and looking at the people that i know you know paul babcock built a real one peter lineman he goes back to borderlands you know some of the genesis of educating public and bringing to people's awareness that the mwo even exists even if the stuff that borderlands was doing wasn't accurate as far as what the real mwo was nevertheless just the genealogy of who i'm working with and stuff and then eric dollard not only the borderland connection eric dollard was the last legitimate engineer who actually worked on the integratron since george van tassel who invented it you know george van tassel has these wild claims that basically it was like the aliens who gave them the plans to it it was supposed to be almost like a teleportation kind of building in a healing unit and all this well part of the inspiration for the integratron is actually from the mwl which a lot of people don't know i did not know that i didn't know about the integratron i've been by it it seems like now it's just some new age meditation temple but yeah the lore is crazy george van tassel the ets gave him the information howard hughes used to go visit george van tassel he saw value in what george van tassel was doing and apparently eric dollard worked on it before it was turned into this meditation place i am really interested in the legacy there and how much of the rumors you think were true eric thinks there's something to the claims about the integratron not necessarily whether it came from the aliens or not maybe it did maybe it didn't how are we to know but in any case you know looking at these type of technologies and this longitudinal wave propagation where it's instantaneous trend propagation from point a to point b going through what's known as counter space so there's these interesting properties to this extra luminal transmission you know people talk about superluminal transmission superluminal just means faster than the speed of light and that's not that big of a deal to demonstrate faster than light propagation it's this extra luminal transmission which means outside of the whole constraints of this light speed limitation business which is related to einstein and some of this old physics stuff which is seems to be more propaganda and a distraction from the real ether physics well this extra luminal transmission and this type of longitudinal propagation if you look at some of the work that's referenced as being the cosmic induction generator where you mentioned eric created a galaxy that's a reference to creating this rotating galaxy plasma form that have materialized inside of a bulb that eric was exposing to these high voltage high frequency fields between some tesla ish type coils way back the bulb exploded and when it lost the vacuum that plasma formation maintained and that branched out of some experiments that were kind of inspired by his relationship with philo farnsworth who was philo farnsworth is the inventor of the television philo t farnsworth philo farnsworth has a son and his wife who were living in california at this time that eric dollard got to know them the family the wife and the son and you know he lived with them in a tent in their backyard philo farnsworth's son turned eric on to some different mathematical books and this is where eric really went the direction of understanding the math because being basically homeless and broke eating out of garbage cans and whatever said eric if you can't build something then at least do the math and build things mathematically so this is what kicked off eric's path on knowing the mathematics going back to steinets and heavyside and all these pioneers of the electrical age well anyway with the cosmic conduction generator philo t farnsworth the inventor of the television is known as having created what's kind of generically referred to as the farnsworth fuser where he created thousands of watts of self-sustaining fusion inside of a tube which is massively massively so-called over unity the amount of energy being produced inside of there was exponentially greater than the electricity that was going into it well he was connected to some kind of defense company or whatever and eventually that all got smashed but nevertheless the inventor of the television was involved in a fusion process in a tube right i just want to jump in here because now we're really cooking with gas i feel like we started a little technical because this is a layman audience but this audience might remember when i interviewed paul shatzkin who wrote the biography of philo farnsworth and also one for t towns and brown but he got into all this and got into this fusion device this tabletop in a briefcase style fusion device at room temperature apparently so really crazy and i did not know even though i knew the history of eric and this plasma galaxy and a bulb thing i did not know that this was a bulb from philo farnsworth's son that was these bulbs were just around from his father's work and that's just amazing so obviously this fusion device it's rumored you mentioned like he's connected to defense contractors maybe it got destroyed or crushed you know suppressed do you think it was real do you think it functioned the way it was described absolutely i mean there's patents for it not that that means that something actually worked but people can at least look at the the school of thought of what was actually disclosed and there's enough history to show yeah this happened it was real they were working on it and the whole project was abandoned so the bulb eric did wasn't actually one from philo t farnsworth's son but the son had a bulb and one night eric and philo farnsworth was having a little conversation and they were trying to one up each other on who knew what and who did what and everything and then so philo brought out a tube this interesting looking tube and had this darkening in the glass and whatever and he says what about this and eric proceeded to give details on yeah something interesting happened in here and this and and kind of blew his mind so that stuck in eric's mind and so later on eric was doing his own plasma tube type of experiments and doing something known as what he called the cosmic induction generator and that name is inspired by one of wilhelm reich's books called cosmic superimposition and so in a nutshell it's basically there's these formative forces in the universe and how does this natural intelligence in the universe impart its creative framework into the physical world and so can these bulbs be utilized in a way with electricity to actually show some of these formative creative universal forces and manifest it in front of our eyes so we can see part of the creation process of what's going on in the universe and so eric had created all kinds of different you know not just that one galaxy in a bulb but all kinds of different manifestations inside these tubes so fast forward until maybe i don't know five years ago or whatever at my old shop we started to develop a system similar to what eric was using to induce these patterns in these bulbs and so i funded a project with the mwo sale money so anybody who gets mwo just know that a lot of these projects that you see and that are basically most of it is open sourced the how-to is put into these presentations and books and reports and stuff is that by purchasing an mwo and these other things that we're doing goes to furthering this research and you can actually get your hands on in seeing what we're actually doing and so i funded what's known as this audio modulator bay and an rf bay so there's some presentations where we show these big air force 19 inch rack units where it has all these multiple components in these racks the gray it's like something you'd walk onto a navy ship and you'd see this big setup with the amplifier and a signal generator and all these old school units a couple of the units we bought from ebay all the rest were all basically built from scratch and engineered out of eric's head and one of the applications of this is it can produce audio at a very high fidelity virtually lossless and at a very lethal voltage and so the output of this we put into coils which are opposing each other and one of the demonstrations related to this is known as the flame speaker so we can produce a electrical flame coming off of one of the rings around one of these so-called tesla coils and out of this flame is playing audio which is at the highest fidelity you can possibly imagine i mean it sounds like it's right there in the room now some people are doing these goofy high voltage tesla coil discharges where it's you know it almost sounds like an 80s mario brothers game sure synthesizer kind of thing yeah and so that's like this pulse width modulator kind of stuff but we're actually doing you know full radio frequency modulation with the audio and it's a completely different thing there's no similarity to it really and the audio is just out of this world you know it's not good for like bass but it's good for more higher pitch stuff if you had like a single instrument like a violin or a flute it's absolutely mind-blowing hearing this music coming out of this flame which is coming right off one of these coils it can do voice at the conference demo in 2023 we did high fidelity bird sounds it's absolutely amazing and in the shop with these you know 14 to 17 foot high ceilings where it actually has pretty good audio quality inside that shop where you're just hearing these bird sounds it's just so like holographic it's like in the room with you completely blows away regular speakers but in any case with those same coils doing the little flame we can put the rf into these coils coils and then we can take a plasma tube and put it between the coils and then we start getting all these different interesting types of plasma phenomenon what's interesting about it is that okay so you can take a fluorescent tube and you can bring it near a high voltage source like a tesla coil running and it'll illuminate the whole tube you know you'll get the white light not a big deal that's because a high voltage electrostatic field so-called field physics can't even properly define what a field is but let's just say the high voltage field for simplicity is you know exciting all the gas molecules in the tube and so it lights up not a big deal but what's interesting about this particular arrangement of coils is you can take this tube you can bring it towards one coil it lights up the entire tube you know with the white light you bring it to the other coil same thing but when you bring the tube and you drop it right halfway in between both coils it develops a black spot where the light disappears it's a completely black spot eric calls it a counter space node and that literally is a doorway into a different dimension and i could make a distinction because physics improperly uses dimensions right off the bat but this black spot that develops is very interesting because it's showing there's a cancellation of space right inside that node and that black spot doesn't appear because you're too far in distance from one of the coils you're halfway in between it i mean you can take this tube and you can bring it you know three four five feet away and it's still illuminated so it's not going dark because it's too far from the coils you're talking a couple inches from each coil the rest of the tube is white but you got this little black spot that shows up right in between it and so that's very interesting and what kind of properties does it have well what happens if you germinate seeds in that counter space node people report feeling good and having interesting results in there but with the lakowski multi-wave oscillator typically it's running in what's known as an unbalanced mode and so it's kind of a lopsided kind of thing and on the mwo page i have a couple videos talking about the balanced versus the unbalanced mode if anybody wants to go into what that looks like but all the devices that came out before the reverse engineering report were all based on a balanced mode well the lakowski mode is unbalanced but eric designed a oscillation transformer which allows you to run our mwo in a balanced mode in case you want to experiment with that neutral zone you can't play the flame speaker and all that but you can get the little black spot in the tube in between the mwo so it opens up experiments for people to maybe treat water maybe treat seeds as they're germinating or whatever so in the cosmic induction generator where we have these tubes not only do we get that neutral zone like in a fluorescent tube we can take plasma tubes with different kind of gases and we can actually get the gases to emit different colors that are not known to be associated with those gases that's like nobel prize winning material because the belief system in physics is that if there's a certain gas there is a certain color emission on that spectrum associated with that gas they treat that as being such holy gospel that they're going to look out in the universe and they're going to see different colors and they're going to bet money on it so hard that they're going to tell you that all these distances and what kind of materials and what kind of elements are being associated with that light and so if you can take a tube and put it in between some coils and excite it in a certain way where the colors actually change in front of your eyes maybe it's white then it starts turning yellow and the yellow starts darkening and it changes shape what does that tell you about the possibility that what we're looking at when we look into outer space at all these different colors is completely false and their whole model falls apart because if we can show that we can change the color of a gas the color that it's emitting that calls into question every single thing built upon that idea and their whole structure of the universe based on that right now does the gas have any other properties that change when it changes color to this unknown color or this color that's never usually associated with the gas do you then take measurements of the gas are we talking transmutation or are there any other qualities of it that change other than its visible color possibly transmutation we can't say for sure now when making these glass tubes i have to admit that if there's potential for anything in the actual glass material to emit maybe that contributes to it but the volume of light coming from maybe a little bit of moisture that might have been inside that glass or whatever because when these glass tubes are blown there's a suction pulled on that that's so incredibly strong there's no way there's any gases in there so is there any particles from whatever kind of glass that it's made out of that might be emitting when the tube is getting heated up to contribute to these light changes all these are possibilities but why isn't anybody else seeing these when they're exciting them in a similar manner under regular high voltage effects it's just in between these two so you know those little plasma tubes where it's got the little streamers you know you can buy these little cheap ones for five bucks or you know you run your hand on it yeah spencer's gifts i worked at spencer's back in the day my mom worked at spencer she was a manager and all right a fellow mall worker i like it yeah lava lamps posters and plasma balls right very fitting for you very fitting right so the plasma ball okay so they have a proprietary mix of what the gases are but you know certain gases will have a little purple color and stuff so for a conference demo i took one of those a little portable one hooked up to a little battery and it's showing a little purple streamers and stuff and it's sitting right between these coils and it's giving the little purple streamer business just like you would expect i disconnect the battery and then we turn on the radio frequency stuff in the coils and then the whole thing goes bluish white like real bright white so where did all the purple light go why is it exciting in a completely different color i didn't change and swap these things out it's the same tube in between there so these are interesting things that are happening that shouldn't be happening and we're the first ones to you know publicly show these kind of things but i mean there's going to be implications about this kind of stuff we haven't even thought of and we're not done with these experiments those particular ones are just on hold but it is related to the mwo in the sense that eric says the mwo is a cosmic induction generator because when you run it in the balanced mode you can take the fluorescent tube put it in between you can get the neutral spot and that neutral spot is going through what's known as counter space so the propagation of what's happening between the mwo is it's not transverse electromagnetic waves that takes time to get there because you need space to have a distance and you need distance for something to travel through that distance and to take time over a certain period of time which means you have a velocity so technically there's no velocity because these are extra luminal transmissions from one antenna to the next going through what's known as counter space and in my etheric model it's slipping between space which means space is being slipped around these emissions so the distance disappears because space disappears and if space disappears there's no distance and if there's no distance it doesn't take any time and if it doesn't take any time there's no velocity so the emission from one antenna to the next is oscillating back and forth creating what's known as a displacement current between these antenna which is what happens between capacitor plates is that these longitudinal propagations are basically instantaneous so with the last five or ten minutes we have here i want to make sure we revisit the plasma ignition thing you were talking about and the solar charger now the plasma ignition system i had this in my notes so it's a part of your bio where you say one of the favorite developments is the patented plasma ignition system which obsoletes every performance ignition system in automotive history it is able to instantly burn hydrogen right out of water or any other hydrogen source this enables an engine to run partially on water with much less fuel more power more mileage and less emissions and some tests done by independent researchers around the world this ignition method was able to run various small engines on 100 percent water but the size of the plasma discharges to accomplish that are so large that it will cause instant damage to internal parts but at least the point was proved well i love that where is this plasma ignition system at this point so it's still just a desktop model what i've done maybe two years ago is i put together my own production ready circuit i have some problems with it that need to be debugged i might have to redo it from scratch but essentially i hope by the end of the year to have the production model prototype which is essentially a capacitive discharge ignition system you know regular ignitions in a car 12 volts goes into an ignition coil and then you get this higher voltage step up action that makes little spark a step past that is charging a capacitor of few hundred volts to put into a performance ignition coil instead of 12 volts so you get a corresponding stronger spark i can take that same capacitor and i can add one little modification to it and i can essentially make all the resistance in the circuit disappear or most of it disappear as if i had a room temperature superconductor because the capacitor when it discharges to the coil it's fighting against different resistances and impedances so it slows down how fast it can discharge take a certain potential and you discharge it over a long period of time you got a really low power phenomenon if i make the resistance disappear and i can make the capacitor almost instantaneously discharge it's no longer a stronger spark it's like a white ball of sunshine at the gap that's super loud and super fast even faster than tesla's disruptive discharges and it'll instantly dissociate hydrogen from oxygen from moisture in the air water vapor injected into an engine or even a hydrogen atom from a hydrocarbon molecule it'll rip the hydrogen and make atomic hydrogen and then it detonates the atomic hydrogen which flashes really hot and fast and then thoroughly ignites the rest of the mixture so it's almost like a two-step ignition process so i can actually lean an engine out and get a temperature drop proving that the thermal efficiency goes up when everybody else leans an engine out they get a temperature increase because they're not doing it right so i have the circuit that i still have to develop but anybody that wants to learn more can go to ignitionsecrets.com that's basically a page that describes what the presentation and the books are about and the buy button will forward them to e-media press where they can get the book or video presentation but it's one of the most replicated circuits in the world for unusual circuits that i released in about 2008 my variation of making this type of plasma because all automobile manufacturers princeton nasa jet propulsion laboratory spark plug companies they have patents on an antiquated way of making this type of plasma but they've never really put it into production and put it into people's hands i did it in a way where i can take any off the shelf capacitive discharge ignition system do a little modification with the high voltage diode and i can simultaneously use that capacitor to initiate the spark and also act as a low voltage high current source that jumps the little gap which nobody else has ever been able to do before so my method of doing it essentially instantly obsoleted tens of millions of dollars worth of patents over the last 50 years owned by all these companies and organizations and government labs and all this kind of stuff and there's a lot of different applications to the plasma ignition i won't go into but the first and foremost one is to be able to burn your fuel air mixture cleaner with more power more mileage it does require a custom spark plug for long life because it will shorten the life of a regular plug and it needs to be a non-resistor plug but the phenomenon in and of itself points out some potential flaws in the so-called laws of physics dealing with ohms laws and a few others that appears to be being violated but it's very interesting and i've been excited about it since 2007 2008 yeah it sounds quite disruptive and quite interesting so the solar charger what's going on there okay so john bedini invented the world's most effective not necessarily the most efficient but the most effective battery chargers battery rejuvenators and solar charge controllers and the reason i say effective is because so from the early about 2004 they were developed into commercial production and then from about 2007 2008 and on peter lineman and i with teslachargers.com which you can't buy them right now they've been out of production since john and gary bedini died on the same day back in i think around november 5th 2015 or something like that me and peter sold more than all those other distributors combined people have been beating our door down to try to get these so where it's at is this i've been wanting to put these back into production because they give lead acid batteries more life flooded cell lead acid batteries more life cycles than any other battery charging technology in the world you can even bring back about i'd say at least maybe 25 30 percent of batteries doomed for the dump we can take those and bring them back to 80 to 110 percent of the manufacturer's rating so literally we can take a flooded cell battery a percentage of them that nothing else can bring back and we can actually give them more capacity than a brand new one off the shelf with this technology it's proven for so many years it's ridiculous so there were different ways that i wanted to go about replicating some of john's circuits to do it in the same way but in the last couple years i've been talking to paul babcock about reintroducing some of these models but enhancing them making them a little bit more universal and before paul died we worked out a basic concept that we wanted to incorporate so that a battery charger see there were battery chargers battery rejuvenators and then the solar charge controllers the charge controllers were essentially like a audio amplifier and they would just linearly amplify current put the voltage and current into a battery so when the voltage got up to a certain level on the battery it would start tapering down the current and it was all this little self-regulating process with no digital controllers or anything the chargers and rejuvenators the chargers could do the same thing but the rejuvenators would charge a capacitor and then discharge it to a battery charge it and discharge to a battery over and over and the whole secret is all about just getting the battery up to a certain voltage that reversed the chemistry to like new on every charge cycle so if you can charge a battery and bring the chemistry back to like new on every charge cycle you can theoretically give a lead flooded cell lead acid battery an infinite amount of life cycles and there was no other battery charger technology in the world that ever did that so we have a concept that we can integrate into one unit to make it so universal that we can either put a solar panel on the front or we can plug it into the wall we can turn a switch and we can either make it a charger where it'll charge and push the voltage up to a certain level where the current will automatically drop off for a charger or we can turn a switch and it will charge the capacitor and discharge it to actually rejuvenate and not only desulfate a battery it's bringing the battery to the right voltage at the top where we know it's brought back to like new so it would be a solar charge controller battery charger rejuvenator all built into one unit where there might be say maybe a 20 watt unit maybe a 100 watt unit maybe a 500 watt unit maybe a 2000 watt unit which would obsolete probably 95 all the battery chargers rejuvenators solar charge controllers on the market with maybe four different models then paul died but i have the principle and i got some parts to do the basic prototype circuit on it but that's on the back burner until i get through a couple projects right now but that's going to be i'm working on one right now and as soon as i get done with that i got to choose between the battery charger or my plasma ignition circuit wow and they're all your babies how do you choose man it's good to get updates because clearly you've been working on a lot of things for a long time and we probably don't do this enough we didn't even get time to talk about the crazy stuff like antiquatech and living plasma and all sorts of strange things that i had planned to ask you about but just getting the updates on the range of products i mean it takes two hours so in closing what do you want to see happen next is there any new product or new advancement you're excited about when are we getting a new conference which we look for down the road so yeah the goal would be to have a conference in 2026 i got to see what date works for the whole tesla crew and everybody else and i would like to have the water machine ready the water purification unit i'm developing okay i can't talk about that one but the i want to have the plasma ignition circuit ready and i want to have at least one of the battery controllers ready probably the smaller scale one which is kind of a universal unit those are the three ones that i want to introduce to the market there's one oddball device that john bedini had i have his original unit he called it a gravity wave detector fits in a little box and it can pick up these different emissions i got to look into it more to give a more accurate explanation from his point of view but it's detecting these invisible type of influences that we're subject to it's an interesting little device i'm thinking about putting it into production for experimenters because people want to charge batteries they want to have an ignition but a lot of people just want something that does weird stuff you know or senses weird stuff so that might be one that's coming into production there's also a development you know you mentioned a rife machine we haven't gone into that but my company also manufactures an rpx unit invented by john bedini which is one of only two legitimate rife frequency generators in the world is this the sideband generator yeah it's the sideband generator by mixing a high frequency with an audio frequency you create a combination of the addition of those two frequencies but also the subtraction of those two frequencies and those are called sidebands and rife created sidebands that were even and odd harmonics or even or odd multiples of his target frequencies that's how he did it and there's only two commercially available units anywhere in the world that makes that and that's how rife did it all the others are nothing but glorified signal generators i'm about to put in a order for a new production unit of about 150 units i've been out of stock since last september everybody's beating my door down for one of these and they're cheap i mean 795 dollars for the old unit these might be 850 people are charging thousands of dollars for something that's just a signal generator that has nothing to do with rife but i can't say who but somebody is going to be licensing the rpx unit to drive an amplifier to make a tube rife machine rife did both electrode delivery and the tube version the electrode unit is a lot more efficient but nevertheless people like the eye candy aspect and it's a very powerful unit i'm not going to be manufacturing them i'm just going to be licensing that that's the project i'm working on right now after i get my rpx unit in and when my associate puts that into production i'm excited to be a distributor because people have been asking for a tube unit for a long time so they'll be available through that so it'll be the number one basically most accurate and authentically correct rife machine using a plasma tube and again i don't make any claims it's a research only unit you can go to emediapress.com look for the rpx link and you can learn really what rife did as far as doing the frequency mixing thing so that's going into production i got to finish the tube rife circuit that paul babcock helped me with with the amplifier for the tube and then yeah battery charger water machine and the ignition circuit those are three goals and that's why i'm not having a conference this year also because all the stuff with my mom but that's my main focus between now and the end of the year so i'm on fire the fire is burning and i'm haven't been this motivated in a long time awesome that is good to hear a lot of spinning plates and it's good that things are coming to market because the criticism of the alternative science tesla tech type of community is like where's the stuff where is the viable products but you do have a couple some are out of stock but you know we will restock we will replenish and i appreciate you coming by i've got so much respect for what you do and the space you've created for these bright minds who have been sort of pushed out of the so-called scientific community it's a huge thing people can go to emediapress.com check out even just the conference presentations and the lectures i mean if you want to wrap your head around the alternative science that's where you do it but keep it up and take care thank you and energy times is free they can either do a pop-up or click on the blog link and in the left column there'll be a sign up for energy times and that's where all of our updates go and it's free to join love it well thanks again have a good one thanks greg take care all right back in the alternative energy saddle and talking to one of the big dogs in the yard when it comes to this sort of stuff i empathize with the tragedy in his life recently and the lack of motivation to do much more than grieve but i'm happy to hear he's got the fire burning again i learned more about the previous work of eric dollard in this one wild how many things he seems to be attached to that i'm super interested in and i'm glad we got an update on the tesla turbine i just wish we saw a bit more movement on bringing these things to market and a bit more clarity on how individuals would use some of these things in their lives erin clearly knows a lot about the technical details and how these things work and i appreciate that but i worry that this one in particular might be a little like explaining the intricacies of a combustion motor to people who just want to know if they can drive it people who just want to know what can i do with this and why do i want it but erin clearly shows his depth of knowledge which is important when you're trying to make the case that these things are real when so many people are trying to tell us they aren't and it's very impressive to me it's a shame the field has lost a couple of the greats in such a short time there's not many people doing this work in previous interviews i think i even made the point about where are the young people working in these fields jeremiah for worders the only one i know but it's just something i like to dip into again every year so that just seems like the right rate to get updates to me and the time in which erin might present us with another inventor he's working with nice to see that they do have a few major products out now but they seem to be products that are so hard to talk about because of all the concerns over legal action if you over promise and under deliver but if you're too careful then it's hard for a layman to understand it's too vague i empathize with him trying to walk that tight rope and thread that needle but either way i'm glad he's back at it i hope the conference continues for many years lots of great presentations to check out that have been filmed and are on the website many of them for free some of them purchasable check them out at e media press if you want more of course the plus show got deeper we talked more about the process behind the multi-wave oscillator the ether physics model that helps a person understand how it works we talked about our backwards concept of time space and ether compression and time effects and even a little bit about how flying saucers fly by displacing the ether around them all good stuff and i wish erin well in higher side news it seems like a lot of people enjoyed seeing that little teaser image of the new studio set for thc 2.0 or we might say thc tv it's up on instagram and twitter and i got a lot to say about that and why i'm going that direction and what it all means and how it will change things but i think that all deserves its own update in the feed that isn't just tacked on to the end of a random show so keep an eye out it's coming but let's do the review thing for the last episode one of my favorite interviews in a while with matthew j bell i haven't looked yet but i have no doubt it's a high one let's say 4.8 that seems to be old reliable when it comes to our great shows and wow okay even better 4.9 almost a perfect score love it that's what we're here for i hope i have many more shows with mr bell we seem to get along quite well i like his vibe and his depth of knowledge just for knowledge's sake he should definitely write a book he would write a lot better than many people that i know who write books on the regular he's a good dude and let's knock out the upcoming events on the thc meetup calendar as we do higher side meetups.com let all your wildest dreams come true coming right up on may 25th the three magnets brewing company in olympia washington somebody tell ron patten and we also have may 26th monday at gail brath's ale house eden terence auckland new zealand june 1st heartland harbor in huntington indiana also june 1st champlin minnesota elk creek brewing and june 8th san antonio texas halcyon south town and also june 8th los angeles at the trails cafe and then one last one to throw in june 14th a raw milk party at mount graylock state reservation visitor center at lanesboro massachusetts gotta love a raw milk party don't make it weird lots of good stuff always happy to see people using the calendar to form new social circles based on their thc interests go wild higher side meetups.com but that's what we got today big thanks to aaron thanks to you guys for listening june is going to be huge around here so brace yourself but i'm getting out of here for now i've done my part your move ether physics deniers secret science hiders and perpetuators of the false paradigm your fucking we are in a lot of trouble across every industry food water and medicine computer tech and energy but people aren't paying attention not much is getting through gains in the information war are getting long overdue what's left for the big old octopus to get its tentacles around sure it's got a grip on everything but it's a long way down this song working justice over