Analog | Anomalous Minnesota, Lost Underground Cities, The Etruscans, & The Rise Of False Rome

From the Sunshine State, I'm Greg Carlwood, and it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, despite the best efforts of the big machine and our endless embeddedness within a boiling pot of hypnotized masses fixated on soaking in every last scalding drop of propaganda misdirection and political sleaze. And even if your discernment dial is properly calibrated for today's climate, it's easy to get sucked into thinking that our history at least is based on some unadulterated and unbiased absolutes that we know we can all trust and depend on. But why should we be drawn to assuming that past generations weren't just as prone to swallowing similar state-sponsored stories as the ones that plague us in the present? Or why would those with control of accreditations, publishing, and the constructing of academic consensus somehow be worse at determining what information should make it through and what won't? When the further you go back, the fewer outlets were required to compromise, and the more intertwined power was with every little detail. Well, today's returning guest analog is no stranger to thinking along these very lines, as he's made a serious name for himself through a dedication to digging through the digitized archives of old newspapers, out-of-print sources, and obscure documents, and collecting the reports of dead giants, buried buildings, hidden and destroyed ruins across America, underground cities, out-of-place artifacts, mummies, mounds, and many other things inconsistent with the pre-approved story. You can follow along on his YouTube channel, The Archivist, and keep tabs on his Twitter at one underscore analog underscore nine. He's been popping in every six months or so to update us on the ongoing research, and I'm psyched for our fourth go-around. A man on a quest to restore the memory of civilizations lost, suppressed information, and an ancient golden age. My friend and yours, Analog. How the hell are ya? Hey, Greg. Good to be back on. Can't believe it's number four already. Yeah, six months goes by really fast, and maybe I'm jumping the gun here, but it seems like we got a bit of an announcement. You retired from the day job to be Analog full-time. Is that true? Yeah, almost 20 years with the same company, so... Wow. Definitely a big leap. So yeah, I've just taken almost two months off of YouTube and anything technology-related just to enjoy summer with the kids, obviously, is this being the only time that that's actually been a possibility. So yeah, you're the first person I've talked to through a camera in almost two months, and it's been nice, but it's also good to have a lot of material that's just been waiting, and it's going to be good to get back at it and, you know, get back into Anomalous America. Episode 22 is going to be Wisconsin, and then episode three of Ireland, The Great Buried Empires is coming up. So yeah, lots of stuff in the works, but big life changes. Yes. Well, I appreciate you taking a break from the break to do this. And for the unfamiliar, again, the crux of your work is finding very strange articles in old newspapers, and people can draw their own conclusions as to if they can be trusted or not. But I understand that hearing one or two might sound crazy in isolation, but you've been doing this work for years now, and the further you've gone, the more you find, and the clearer a picture forms about the past, which is a radical departure from conventional history in many, many ways, with so many different threads, too, to keep track of. But to keep a lot of it straight, you've been doing this, as you say, Anomalous America series. So far, you've done Alaska, all the Western states, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Illinois, Ohio, and Indiana. And since we last did this, you've added Minnesota and Iowa, bringing the total to 21 states so far. And this structure to the series just shows people how much of this material there really is and how it's present in these newspaper archives, no matter what state you look at. You've got other threads running, too, which I'm sure we will get to. But I wanted to kick this off with a great overview article that makes the case that the epic findings across America used to be talked about fairly openly. And articles like this were found in local newspapers all the time. But this one is The Antiquities of America, 1858. The Antiquities of America extend from the eastern shores of Maine and Massachusetts to the Pacific and from the Great Lakes and British Dominions to Peru and La Plata in South America. In fact, throughout the extent of both continents, immense forests grew over the ruins of large cities, and the gigantic size of the trees gives indications that other generations of trees sprang up and grew before them, proving that the ruins were in existence before the Christian era. In every portion of the United States, interesting ruins have been discovered. In the state of New York have been found sculptured figures of 100 animals of different species executed in a style far superior to anything exhibited by the existence of Indian tribes. The state of Ohio abounds in ruins of towns and fortifications with extensive mounds and pyramids. At Marietta and in Missouri, beautiful pottery, silver and copper ornaments, and pearls of great beauty and luster have been dug from the earth. In the caves of Tennessee and Kentucky, mummies have been found in a high state of preservation, clothed with cloths and skins of various texture inlaid with feathers. Like discoveries have been made in Carleton near Milwaukee in the state of Wisconsin, where ruins of huge fortifications appear. Similar ruins appear in Missouri. On the south side of the Missouri River in the western portion of the state is an enclosure of some 500 acres, which includes the ruins of a building, no doubt an ancient tower, with walls 100 feet high and 80 feet wide at the base, attached to which is a citadel of work much resembling the structure of a tower in Europe. But it is in the south of Mexico that beautiful ruins present themselves in abundance, ruins of majestic cities and magnificent temples and altars, with beautiful works of sculpture tastefully wrought, palaces adorned with paintings, colors chiefly sky blue and light green, which show their richness and elegance to be the work of highly cultivated people. I just like that one for how broad it is. And they were talking about this ancient America far differently in 1858 than they do today. Yeah, wonderful synopsis there. And one of my favorite articles, too, you know, there's not a to the point article, especially when you're describing something to kind of a layman, people unfamiliar with the idea of what America used to be or used to look like. And yeah, that castle, so to say, there in Missouri, you know, 100 foot tall walls, 80 feet wide at the base, I mean, that's monumental. And that's one of dozens now that I've covered. And yeah, if I was going to do like kind of an introduction to Anomalous America, that article would be like a great reason to justify the legwork, right? But yeah, covering every state, you find all of this. When people look at the idea of what America looked like pre-expansion, that article talked about before the Christian era, the idea that all of North and South America, Central America was covered in ruins and temples and cities of a stature to the point where cities were so large, they could have housed millions of people. It's pretty hard to wrap your mind around it. So that was, again, a big motivator to breaking it up into states because there's so much to go over and digest. That was really the only way to do it. But yeah, I love that article. Yeah, it is a good one. And let's talk Minnesota. My personal favorite in this section of the work is an article about someone who went to dig out a root cellar, which is its own thing, which is kind of like a form of natural technology that we don't use anymore. Same like cold cupboards. You could dig a hole that could be quite nice. You could tile it. You could have it come into your kitchen and it would be permanently cold and would keep all your food without the monthly electric bill. But regardless, this guy was digging out a root cellar and he ran into an iron ring. Not only is this wild in and of itself, but this was printed in two different papers. Can you break this one down for us? Yeah, you'll have to help me a little bit through that one. But iron itself is really important because, you know, the idea of what the Iron Age was or what that represented in the timeframes that allow that to be possible don't really make sense when we look at the kind of understanding of the ages of America, especially when they talk about the Copper Age. And this is a common theme in every state. People digging below their home or a farmer digging on their field uncover something that's not supposed to be there. And basements are a big part of that. And I'm sure as we get farther into this, we'll talk more about the kind of idea, again, of the mound complexes and how it's been much easier from historical perspectives to classify them all as burial mounds, but come to find out most of the time they're buried cities and you're finding just the top of buildings. So here we are, a person that's got a home on top of whatever type of topography that existed at the time. And yeah, he's digging a root cellar. And the article says he's digging this root cellar and he finds an iron ring. It's like, oh, that's odd. And then he's pulling on the iron ring and finds out it's attached to a giant door. And so then they're like, wow, what's this? So then they open the door and they find a flight of stairs carved out of solid rock and it opens up into a giant cave. And so this is the story in the local paper. And then you go on next to read from a paper in New York where they're talking about this incredible discovery in Minnesota. And of course, down inside the cave was found a seven foot tall skeleton. That's just like boring at this point. But the fact that this iron door, I mean, I don't know if the door was iron, but it's like a door knocker on a big door. I remember the door was iron as well or some kind of metal. OK, right. I thought so, but didn't want to say because, you know, I always want to be more tempered and not make things bigger than they seem or add facts to it, embellish. But yeah, really wild. And that was just my favorite one, because it's not just a cave. It's clearly I mean, maybe they used a natural formation to help them get started on this massive chamber that this door led to. But I like the corroboration from two different sources that talk about this and just incredible. I don't know exactly where in Minnesota it is just on some farmland, but wild. Yeah, the iron artifacts have been found all over. I covered them in Alaska and New Mexico and Arizona and Ohio and Missouri. But yeah, you know, just our understanding of iron and where it fits in the timelines isn't, you know, that's all you got to throw all these things out and metallurgy, especially from the perspective of anomalous America, they found enough out of place artifacts that the kind of idea of tempered steel and the Iron Age and tempered copper and also gemstones, you know, diamonds and emeralds and rubies and jade and all of these things are found to a very, very high degree, very advanced. Like you mentioned, the sculptures in New York, basically, you name it, and they found it here buried below our feet in some kind of a structure that itself, right, without any of the artifacts that are brought to light or the giant skeletons, just these structures alone, you know, we have covered cave systems and all that stuff, you know, the subterranean realms to a pretty serious extent on these shows. And yeah, the cave systems are everywhere. And when you find these really big mound pyramidal castle like complexes, I guarantee you there is a subterranean element to it. And we kind of covered, I believe maybe it was episode two or three, I can't remember exactly, but the Cahokia St. Louis complex. Remember, we talked about that tunnel that's under the Mississippi River that connected St. Louis with the Cahokia mounds. And that they said that as they excavated all these mounds, not only on the St. Louis side, but also in Indiana or Illinois, I'm sorry. Maybe it was Indiana, that they were all connected underground and that as they got deeper, they'd keep breaking into these caverns and that they connected with the mountains. And I believe the same thing existed with any of these forts, like you mentioned, right? Because imagine how much of that castle that you mentioned earlier was buried, right? It's like these walls they find, like the rock wall in Texas that we've talked about, or the great wall in Mississippi, where they dig down and they never find the bottom. They go 60 feet or more and they don't find the bottom of these walls. The idea that we're dealing with a culture that the idea of who came before the Native Americans or quote, the Aborigines of America. And you ask them, especially a lot of these books written in the 1800s again, they tell you that there was a very advanced civilization that was all but completely destroyed or wiped from the map and that the remnants of this civilization were giants and that there were good giants and that there were evil giants and the evil giants, the redheaded cannibal giants they fought with and slowly destroyed. Not to get off track. All good. There is a lot of stuff. And I did have a note here about the underground tunnels and chambers in Minnesota stretching to the ones in St. Louis that we talked about. And that is a far stretch. Usually when it comes to underground stuff, everybody's focused on Derenkuru, which I believe is in Turkey. And it is an impressive, crazy complex that looks like a giant underground ant farm for people. But to think that we don't have to look over there for that. It's actually right here is also really impressive. And sometimes in these episodes, it's hard because we're jumping around based on location and we're talking about several different time depths. Like the original article I read is talking about giant trees on top of ruins. This is the last round of civilization before a potential cataclysm. And then we talk about some of this stuff here in the Minnesota episode was about tropical jungles covering that land. And the things they would find are fossils of things that shouldn't have existed there in any known period of time. But that gets into the possibility of the whole Earth being the same climate in that whole golden age stuff with Saturn. We'll get into that because you've found some articles that connect Saturn quite casually to a golden age when written about in old newspapers. But the other thing is that in another time depth, if we're just talking about like the 1800s, they still did some incredible stuff that we don't do today. And in this Minnesota episode, you do talk about them having an industrial exposition, kind of like a World's Fair, as well as the St. Paul Winter Carnival, where they would build giant ice palaces every year. In 1886, on up, and we don't have the visuals on this show, but these ice palaces look just like... They're incredible. Yeah, they look like a Disney castle made completely of ice blocks. And you read in one description the dimensions, at least one particular year, because they would rebuild this every year in the winter. But the dimensions of this one were 194 feet by 217 feet. That's 42,000 square feet. Today, you're doing pretty well if you live in anything close to 2,000 square feet. So these were clearly massive. In the 1880s, maybe it's just an example of cultural decline, but you would think that we have more technology to do that now than we did then. And yet, we don't do anything like that today. Very impressive, these ice palaces that they would just build for fun, for a carnival. Yeah, I mean, we've covered so much on these episodes, and yeah, it's easy for me to go on a tangent there. But anytime you look into the past on any subject, you'll be really quite amazed what you find. I've kind of just found a niche. And, you know, me and you have been talking for so many years and kind of got the ball rolling for me on exploring this and breaking it down into something a little bit more presentable. But yeah, every time I do an episode and I go a little bit deeper into some kind of archive from a state perspective, it's amazing the things you find. And yeah, whether we're talking about underground tunnel systems that connect the United States or mummies or giants, you know, the ice palaces and the carnivals and the expositions alone are enough to raise an eyebrow. And you can spend a whole career just diving deeper into those and the things that they were discussing and the technologies they were approaching. And it's incredible. You know, just about everything we've been told is a lie or a complete inversion. Indeed. And you also show images in this Minnesota episode of giant asylums. I've had a couple other guests bring up these massive buildings. They look like university campuses. And you've said that often the largest buildings in a town would be these ornate, massive asylums. And they're just oddly large to be bigger than a hospital, bigger than anything else in town. City Hall. Biggest buildings, hands down. Yeah. Always the biggest buildings in every single state I've covered have been the asylums. And I think maybe you remember, but I believe it was almost 30 in Minnesota alone. These things are hundreds and hundreds of rooms, sometimes a thousand or more. And there's 30 or more of them. And this is an age where we're talking about where, and I've covered state capital buildings, that they're struggling to come up with the resources and the manpower just to build these state capitals. But all these asylums, you'll never, ever find a construction story or photographs or drawings of them being built. They're just there. And they are one of the most odd and out of place when it comes to this subject matter. I mean, the things going on there, it's torture and it's a nightmare. And you're wondering what kind of necessity would bring those things to fruition and to be built and who was being housed in them. There's a lot more questions than answers with the asylums. But again, another subject worthy of a deep dive. Yeah, exactly. When you think about the reason for the asylums, it's like, yeah, OK, some people are crazy. Some people need to be hospitalized. It's not exactly a jail. But when they're the biggest buildings anywhere around, then it's like, well, how many people were going crazy? How many people were being kept here and tortured? Yeah. And they're not in like downtown Milwaukee or downtown Chicago. They're in the middle of nowhere often. So like just the resource manpower question alone, you know, they're not by railroads, right? They're not by rivers. And they have three, four, five level basements on top of the already gigantic structures that exist above the ground. So, yeah, it's dark for sure. Yeah. So like the Ubliet in Labyrinth, it seems like a place to put people to forget about them. And when you think about how many people, it's pretty wild. And then you can parallel that with the orphan trains. And it does seem like a giant campaign was carried out where people who knew the old ways or helped establish the areas and found a lot of this stuff. They were just like, we're going to ship you off to the asylum. We're going to bus in or train in a bunch of kids. And then we're going to make compulsory schooling a thing. So all these kids must go to our state-sponsored schools and learn the state history. And it doesn't seem to be much more complicated than that. I've heard you say in an interview where you were talking about these orphan trains that in the industrial age, you've read in some reports that the workforce was 80% kids under 16 or 18. 16, yeah, it was even higher, depended on the state and the city. Yeah, it was even higher in some places. Yeah, it's crazy. You watch, you know, some of these earliest videos. I'm sure you've seen some of them. There's good ones in Philadelphia. There's some from New York, San Francisco, Pittsburgh. You know, it's just like a cameraman set up with a camera filming down a street. There's a few good ones out there that are in kind of an industrial area. I want to say it's Pittsburgh, but I can't remember off the top of my head. And you can kind of hear this sound. It's almost like a end of shift bell or something. And you just see, I'd say at least 90% of this workforce or group of people, employees, however you want to describe it, exiting this massive industrial building. I mean, you're hard pressed to find one person over 18. I mean, again, you're having to kind of guesstimate. But and then you work the orphan train stuff into it along with the asylums and forced schooling. You know, alcohol goes along with this as well because it's all tied in with the same people. The brewmasters, the industrial people, the railroad people, the schooling people, they're all kind of part of the same hidden hand, so to say. And yeah, that's how it works. You know, you get rid of the old memory in whatever area we're dealing with. You know, whether it is we're talking about moving, quote, Indians onto reservations. But yeah, it's all a complete re-indoctrination of a whole new culture. You're just building literally a whole new civilization from the ground up. Mm hmm. I just think it's obviously a huge undertaking. It's hard for people to wrap their heads around. But when you find out about the orphan trains, you're like, wow, that's pretty weird. And maybe that's an isolated incident. But then you add in the component of the asylums and then you add in the world's fairs and the compulsory schooling. Yeah. And the baby farms. Right. We talked about that on an episode. That's scary enough. But the orphan trains and the asylums that they all go hand in hand. And the baby farms clearly are super interesting. There's a lot of old postcards that basically show people with like a shovel and a hoe in a field and babies popping up. Now, that's not how they were producing babies, but they're just trying to illustrate the production of children at a mass scale. And some of these royal families would be pretty open at the time about their baby farms. It reminds me of Epstein when he's like, I want to chain up a bunch of women and pregnant all of them and just have them pop out kids constantly with my genetics. And it seems like maybe royal families. I don't know if there was any exotic technology involved. Really. You see those iron lungs and incubators at some world's fairs, but it seems like they just did it the old fashioned way. But they had an operation going, a literal baby factory using women for this purpose. Absolutely. Yeah. And then you work world wars into this and the destruction of a larger populace. You know, you look at how many people died in World War One and how many French, how many Germans, how many Russians. We can cover so many threads that the web can get quite confusing. But yeah, it's a dark time. I mean, when you look at the 1800s from a historical archaeological perspective, that alone is enough that you can kind of get lost in it and confused, let alone all these other variables. But yes, we're dealing with a civilization that was destroyed. And I believe there's more than one event, more than one cataclysm, so to say. Like you mentioned, the large trees growing on these ruins, right? Because even the, quote, Indians or aboriginals say that these ruins had been there long before their forefathers. So what happened? And that's kind of what I'm trying to uncover. But yeah, you could just go into the baby farm, orphan train stuff. And it's a lot. And that's kind of what I'm trying to do with the channels, make it digestible, but slowly cover all these things that we've been discussing on these interviews. And if you think about our own time, because, of course, we're talking about a cyclical thing for the most part, some kind of natural cataclysmic cycle and that the elite just know about it and they lean into it and they reshape society as they want. They prepare for it. And then they're first to act when the shit goes down. Think about our own time. It's just so interesting that a lot of people refer to this as a time of awakening, that the reason why it seems like everything's falling apart and everything's so chaotic and so corrupt is not that the ratio of corruption has changed. It's just the awareness of it has changed. So the perception of it is so intense that it seems like, well, what happened? Nothing except that you see it now. That's what happened. It's always been there. But it's just so funny to think about our time and how there's a lot of people awakening to these sorts of things. And there's a lot of copycats of your work now, too, out there. Obviously, you know, the work is the work, but there's many channels popping up doing this stuff. And that's just to say, in this age of awakening, we also are paralleling an age of World War Three. Like they're inching us towards it right when people are waking up to maybe all of our history is a lie. And how convenient is that? And maybe this is how it's happened in previous times. As soon as we get aware, maybe it's just a time thing. And like you get a thousand years and the first 500, you're just trying to get your feet back under you. And then you start to notice things. And then this process unfolds. And then it's time for another reset. You know, when you think about it from the perspective, you know, you try to look at the day, just the normal everyday, symbolically connecting it with consciousness, right? That like you mentioned, everything's cyclical. Look at our routines every day. The sun comes up, it goes down. You know, you can look at that from kind of a psychological perspective. And that I think these cycles are similar to just 24 hour periods, obviously extended. There's nuance to that, but you get what I'm saying. And I think there is certainly purpose and kind of a story to life that we're living in a bit of a movie, you know, simulation, whatever you want to say, and that we are who we are at this present time. And given this kind of drive to seek these kinds of things out and that it's one little piece and a growing conscious shift, you know, I don't want to get too new agey, but I certainly believe there is a ebb and flow to this type of thing. And yeah, like you said, everything moves in circles, nothing new under the sun, right? That's just you're dealing with a new set of conscious limits, I suppose, and that they're expanding and naturally humans have to fill that gap. Yeah, that's the whole yoga cycle. I've got an upcoming show with an expert on that who says that a lot of ancient cultures had a very similar cyclical way of looking at the world and factoring in the rise and fall, the ebb and flow of consciousness and what our awareness can take in. And so we're returning to the old ways. And man, as always with you, time just flies. Another thing about Minnesota that we have to touch on is the Kensington runestone. Obviously, with a lot of these things, they're found, they're shipped to the Smithsonian. The Smithsonian says, well, this is a fraud. This is a forgery. Who cares? And it's very easy to dismiss something as a forgery. But who has the presumption to really know? I mean, how do you actually know? But yes, talk to us about the Kensington runestone, one of Minnesota's biggest anomalies or most popular. Yeah, and I think it's a blessing when it comes to a lot of those things, because there have been many instances where, I mean, we've covered countless and that's only a tiny percentage of the ones I've talked about where the Smithsonian is involved and we no longer hear anything ever about it again. And there's those very fortunate events where the artifact stays in the hands of the public in one way or another, slips through the cracks or it's determined to be a fraud. But again, we've talked about so many things here that are far beyond the idea of this stone being out of place and the limits that we would have to go to to keep it concealed from the public. That it's kind of like child's play at this point. But yeah, the Kensington runestone is a great one. It was held in the state capitol building. I'm not sure if it's still there. I don't believe so. But it was on display for the public for 50 years or more and tells the story of, quote, Norwegian explorers finding their way into the kind of remote area that is Minnesota. But as I get deeper into that area and kind of why I've been covering the states I've been covering is I'm following the Mississippi, right? I follow that all the way up and now I'm kind of following the Missouri because these were really, really important thoroughfares and help explain a lot of what came before what we would call Aboriginal America. But yeah, there was a lot of trade through Minnesota. Next episode of Wisconsin, we're going to talk about a castle fort complex called Atslan, which is a really, really big puzzle piece here. We're going to talk about Rock Lake or Pyramid Lake in Wisconsin, a lake that they found a pyramid in the whole town is aware of this. It's kind of what's made them famous. Connecting this with, quote, Atlantis, the Phoenicians. And yeah, the Kensington runestone is kind of a big marker when it comes to that, because I've been covering stone tablets, out of place stone tablets from Alaska now all the way to Minnesota, telling the same story that the history and the timelines are completely false, right? The Kensington runestone from its supposed translation, we're dealing with the 1100s-ish. Similar stones have been found. There were carvings found in British Columbia. There were carvings found in Washington state in that same time frame, 1100, 1300. And they love to attribute it to kind of Viking-esque Norwegians. But I'm going deeper and showing the relation between the Etruscans, a deeper understanding of who actually were the Phoenicians. And yeah, correlating this again with the idea of Atlantis. And I think that the stories of Plato were misconstrued or completely false and led us away from what Atlantis really was. And Donnelly, although I don't necessarily agree with all of his ideas, I think he was pretty spot on when describing that America was the true Atlantis. And this is what a lot of these kind of royal, Masonic, whatever you want to call them, societies were working so diligently to cover up. And this is a big part of what the 1800s were. And yeah, the Kensington runestone fits a nice little piece there. In our DMs, we talked about Rock Island. And there was a stone found in Iowa that was very similar to the Kensington runestone. So Rock Island is this island that exists in the middle of the water there. And I believe it's the Missouri, could be the Mississippi. But inside this Rock Island, they found basically what they called an Egyptian temple. And they found all kinds of stuff, rubies, diamonds, copper, gold, statues, kind of a great synopsis of all of these things we mentioned. Mummies. I believe it was a nine-foot sarcophagus, kind of what we would classify or think of when we see an Egyptian sarcophagus, same type of idea, inlaid with all of these characters. But yeah, the Kensington runestone, really important piece. And that happens very rarely where a person puts their foot down enough or they're not interested enough in the money. Who knows exactly the politics involved where the Kensington runestone wasn't just taken and put in some warehouse somewhere, like a lot of these other things that we've mentioned. You know, how many of these articles go completely cold? 99% of them. So when something like that survives, whether or not it's classified in the time period as a fraud or whatever, you just have to do your due diligence. And like you mentioned, when we first started talking, at a point now where I've covered, I don't even know, thousands of articles now and done hundreds of episodes and videos, it's completely up to the listener to come to their own conclusions. Of course, I'm certainly not trying to convince anybody. But for me, at this point, it's just a little piece in this giant puzzle that's correlating a lot of these subjects that we've talked about, you know, this pre-cataclysm culture. Indeed, indeed. And for people who don't remember the Kensington runestone, this is a stone that looks kind of like a small obelisk, I suppose. It's just a standing stone and on it was written, hey, we were Vikings exploring this area. We went out for a while and we came back and 10 of our people were dead and they were killed by natives. And this is a marker just to say, hey, we were here. This is what happened. Our party is a lot smaller than it was. And we have to get out of here now because of it. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's sitting there and maybe it's from the 1100s and it's like, well, Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492. Well, who knows what our great, great, great, great grandparents were doing. It's like a whole nother world. And so even the suggestion of that is pretty fascinating. And I wanted to throw this one in totally random. This one came from Poland, so it doesn't fit in the America anomalous series. But when I hear underground city, you know, my pants get tight. And this says in Galatia, in Austrian Poland, there is a remarkable underground city, which has a population of over 100,000 men, women and children, scores of whom have never seen the light of day, says the Roxbury Gazette. It is known as the city of the salt mines and is situated several hundred feet below the earth's surface. It has its own town hall, theater and assembly room, as well as a beautiful church decorated with statues, all being fashioned from the pure crystallized rock salt. It has well graded streets and spacious squares lighted with electricity. There are numerous instances of this underground city where not a single individual in three or four successive generations has ever seen the sun or has any idea how people live in the light of day. Wow. 100,000 people, town hall, theater, electricity, several hundred feet below the surface. You can actually Google this and find pictures of it. Of course, it's kind of like a tourist attraction at the time of the photos. And from what I read, it was shut down completely in the 80s, but a super impressive place. And the premise of your work is that a lot of this stuff wasn't started from scratch, but stumbled upon and then adapted. And this might be an example of such a thing. 100 percent. Yeah, there are a lot of rock mines like this that existed in the Americas where they're stumbling. There's no longer a population there. And since you mentioned the tunnels earlier, right, because in, I believe, episode two of our interviews, we talked about the deep underground military bases in my Nevada episode. And that even in the 1800s, they were discussing these mine systems that were cities and that you could take a train underground to these different cities. And each one of these mines mines something different. And they were full of different types of people that described dwarves. You know, it's almost like Lord of the Rings. They described not different skin color, but literally different types of humans. And that these tunnels went hundreds and hundreds of miles in all directions. And this is a Nevada article. I have a video called Deep Underground Military Bases and how I correlate that all of these bases are old world, like this mine system. And I'm sure the war effort took over these mine systems because it becomes very hard to find out what happened to these people. They were all removed from the cave system and brought to the surface. And then God knows what happened with them from there. But yeah, it's a really important article. And yeah, you can find tons of pictures, but there's no people. There's canal systems, huge boats. They had thousands of horses. The horses, many of them were blind. They no longer could see because so many generations of these animals had been born underground that they didn't even need to have a sense for eyesight. But yeah, that's a great representation and that America, because it was basically such a desolate place, I think it's the closest representation of the last remnant being dug out, so to say, of this kind of post-apocalyptic scenario. And that we've covered a few, but I believe that article we talked about in the Rocky Mountains where the miners led underground by the Native American who tells them that you could ride a canoe from British Columbia all the way to the Gulf of Mexico. Not to get too far off subject there. That's a great representation because, yeah, they took photos and the photos made it to the public. And I think that's a good representation of probably hundreds of examples like this that are all around the realm. That's the best example the public gets to see. But yeah, one of many, I'm sure. Yes. But yeah, this is really incredible to say three or four generations lived down there and never saw a light. Clearly, this is an old thing. And then you just find it. You bring everybody up. You probably put them in an asylum. And then you say, well, we're just going to mine this. We'll give it to one of our oligarchs who now owns the biggest salt mine in Poland. And that's just how the story progresses. And this is something I wanted to throw into. I would hate to spend time going over something we already went over because there's just so much stuff. But we last recorded in January and you posted this one in December. And I think I would remember this if we talked about it before. But can you read us a little bit from the one you titled Living Plasma, 30-Foot Plasma Serpent Petrifies Livestock and Dog, Amazing Newspaper Report from the 1800s? So yeah, essentially, a farmer or a man on his property, he doesn't really specify, describes a very odd atmospheric situation where he experiences a shift in the weather. He becomes very chilled. And then he notices this moving serpent or moving lightning plasma-like creature and describes it to have some form of intelligence as it's not just zipping around as you would think with like lightning or something of that sort, that it's actually like moving sort of like a serpent and that it comes around his property. And as it moves, it like creates this frozen effect with things that come around it. Things get very cold. You can kind of see things freezing almost. And that it comes in contact with, I believe, his dog and some of his livestock. And one of his horses is frozen in place and his dog is turned to stone. And I can't remember if the horse was turned to stone. But yeah, I titled the video where I describe this as plasma serpents. Because when you hear people talk about these kind of EMCO changeover type events, these plasma events, the Medusa, her gaze turned men to stone, and the kind of analogy that goes along with that or the metaphor, I believe, is indicated in this article. And that this is a good example of perhaps a living representation or a firsthand account of a miniaturized version of this. And that perhaps these kind of, I think you've talked about plasma beings or animals or creatures or entities in past episodes. But yeah, this guy's firsthand account of this plasma serpent or lightning serpent. I can't remember his exact verbiage. Plasma wasn't used in this time frame. And it's not used in this article. But yeah, basically, just everything it comes in contact with, it turns to stone. Yeah, I think he says electric. But it is so interesting because there's some wild claims being made out there about the cataclysm being perpetuated by plasma, that a lot of rock formations and giant trees are petrified and all this kind of stuff. So you're like, well, where's the evidence or what would we look to to see something that even looks halfway like that? And here's an isolated incident where this guy experienced one of these plasmas. And he says that his dog was hit and his dog went from being about 50 pounds to 150 pounds because it's now petrified. And of course, this is what the Electric Universe people think happened. It's what they think a lot of the squiggles on cave walls is, is them describing the patterns in the sky, the electrical patterns in the sky. They say that's where the universal dragon lore came from of these serpent-like creatures that can fly and breathe fire and turn people into not necessarily ash, but like blackstone. I mean, it's right there. You know, the legends, the mythology is very close. So I just found that super fascinating. But a lot of people, when you think about the big picture, they struggle with this transition from old world to current, thinking that it's just too much to keep secret. Or with so many people trying to become historians, these holes in the official story would have been sussed out. But you told me there's more to say about this older worldwide culture that some people refer to as Tartaria, probably incorrectly, but also the rise of false Rome. And I really like that term, the rise of false Rome. And I've talked to guests before about just how it seems like all these royal families who are connected through their family trees, their extended family trees, just kind of rose up across Europe. And then the European expansion came. The story is really not that complex. It seems like they had a foreknowledge and maybe they were first off the starting line. And then they're just like, hey, we're the kings and queens. And this is reality for the rest of you. But that term, the rise of false Rome, talk to us a little bit about how you see that coming to be. Yeah, short answer. I have a series, a playlist called The Etruscan Mysteries. And, you know, the Etruscans and Eturia are a real big linchpin in the kind of idea of, again, this false Rome. And that what was the, quote, pre-Roman civilization or the civilization that came before what we would call Rome today. And the Etruscan history is amazing. But writers in the 1800s were saying similar to kind of these ideas of the Aztecs and the Mayans, like what we did with Cortez and burning all their libraries and stealing all their literature and their history, right? To rewrite a culture, you got to destroy the past or at least their understanding of it. And the Etruscan history is almost a mere image of what they did in Central America. And let me just step in to say that according to the official story, the Etruscans were an ancient civilization that lived in Italy from around 700 to 300 BC. They were the first known superpower in the Western Mediterranean and developed some of the earliest cities in Europe alongside the Greeks. And you say they might even connect to the Irish and early America civilizations. But that's the gist for people who don't know who the Etruscans were. Right. And I think of my Buried Empires, Ireland, the Great series is kind of like a continuation of my Eturia, Etruscan series. Basically, throughout the Etruscan series, I show that in the 1800s, they went from being this culture that had no written language or that everything was destroyed. So they had no way of really translating things. But just like in America, they're excavating all these ancient mounds in Italy and they're finding, OK, what is an Etruscan mound? And throughout these mounds, they're finding the same iconography that I'm describing in America and its mounds here, especially in Alaska. They use the word Etruscan. They say these conical mounds found all throughout. They're all frozen in Alaska. So, again, hopscotching back through the things we mentioned, Alaska was tropical very recently and was covered in cities and conical mounds that are completely frozen. They found cities that were frozen, solid in Alaska with architecture very much what they called Grecian, you know, a whole mountain washed away and they found a whole Greek. This is their verbiage, a whole Greek city with Greek iconography, Greek politics. So when we talk about Greek pottery and iconography, when you really dive into Greek pottery and it all goes back to Eturia, the Etruscans and the Etruscans have a very prominent connection with Central America and writers were correlating some of the glyphs used in Central America with a lot of the glyphs or the funeral imagery with what was they were finding in Eturia or Etruscan. You know, the kind of Etruscan realms are more northern Italy, but really it's the whole thing. And the foundations of Rome are the whole basis of Etruscan. So, yeah, throughout that series, I correlated. I just finished the last episode of that, I don't know, a few months ago where I talked about Irish Eturia and I cite a bunch of correlations between the Irish and the Etruscans and I've done the same thing with the Etruscans and the quote Aztec or the Mayan population. But yeah, so false Rome. And we mentioned a little bit the Council of Nicaea and what the idea of the old world Christianity, when you really look into the old world Christianity, before it was called Christianity, the Church of Aiesa, which was kind of an Irish basis of that, you find those same, it's sun worship, essentially. Obviously, there's far more nuance to it than just saying that it's sun worship. But those, as we mentioned with the Medusa and the kind of lore and the mythology that you find all around the world, just labeled slightly differently, the same thing can be found there. And I'm starting another series where I go into Connor McDowdy. He's an author. His main work was published in the early 1900s, but he had written many things through the late 1800s. And his correlation between who were the ancient Hebrews, the ancient Egyptians, the Irish. And this is kind of, again, as we mentioned in DMs, connecting the kind of idea of who were the ancient Aryans and connecting this again with America. So yeah, false Rome would be this rebranding of Christianity, Catholicism as we know it today. Where a lot of the fundamentals were changed and the literalization of things became very apparent, as we've talked about with it being more of a symbolic religion, why we're talking about the sun and the moon and the stars and seasons. And all of these things are kind of the foundation of what these gods and mythologies are based around, where the rebranding of that changes things very slightly. And you have kind of this literalization of things and hell and sin and so on and so forth. Obviously, there's a lot to that. But yeah, the Etruscan history is quite interesting. But correlating again, this with the Finns, right? The Box Saga has a ton of overlay with the Etruscans. Yeah. I was going to ask you about that because I heard you reference the Box Saga in one video. It came up in a previous interview. I interviewed Jim Chesner at least twice before he died. I found the material really compelling and internally consistent. His description of Rome is very accurate for my own research. And he describes that basically the fall of this ancient culture was a slow consolidation of power through hiring of these mercenary groups, essentially. That Rome, through one way or another, had accumulated all this wealth. And that through that wealth, they were able essentially to hire all of these mercenary groups that necessarily weren't against this kind of old world culture that gets mislabeled Tartaria. But Tartaria was many things, many cultures. It was one kind of collective group that was united against having their own sovereign representation of culture, but they would come together when need be, you know, if there was a huge power waning against them. But, you know, in his work, when he talks about the Box Saga, he talks about the fall of Helsinki. And he says that Rome had never set foot there and that they never could and they would never be able to conquer it. But they were able to basically hire this mercenary group, which is, from my research, would be Switzerland today. Switzerland has its third-party untouchable prowess because they made this deal and they basically destroyed not only parts of Ireland, but parts of what we would call Finland, which Finland was this huge thing. This connects with the Phoenicians, right? The roots are all very similar. It's kind of the last remnant of this pre-cataclysmic culture. And that when you start to study the languages and look at the symbology here, which we talked about, the Etruscans, but it exists everywhere. It's found all over. And America is a huge identifier for this culture because all the symbologies here, I mentioned the Aryans. Who are the Aryans, right? The Ari, the Irish. Well, it's not just like pale-skinned, red-headed people. That's not who the Irish or the Aryans were at all. Again, it's kind of this, what we would say today are in this niche on YouTube, the Tartaria culture. But yeah, so the false Rome is this rebranding of this pre, I don't want to say pre-cataclysm, but the Etruscans themselves say they migrated to the Mediterranean from the Redlands. It's like a very similar story as the Egyptians say, the lands from the West. And I've done quite a few episodes on the hidden mysteries of Central America. They tell the same story, but they're going the other direction. There was a kind of civil war. They also described the flood myth. They said there was a cataclysm and that they fled their cities and that some of them ended up in the Mediterranean and that some of their queens, queen, one queen in particular, I have a whole series called Queen Mu, ended up populating parts of Egypt. They found their way into Italy. That one subject right there, false Rome and correlating it with my research and buried empires and how America plays a really vital role. You know, that could be a two hour discussion in itself, but hopefully I kind of summarize that well enough. But yeah, you could think of Tartaria as kind of the, anyone that was against Rome, this kind of secondhand Rome, the Rome we know today was called a Tartar. And I think I've mentioned this on your show before, my actual ancestors that immigrated from Poland to Canada, their actual immigration papers, they're called Tartars. Interesting. I would like to get my hands on my own because I used to call my grandparents Boucher and Jaja because that's the Polish name for grandma and grandpa. I have Polish roots too, but I don't know where I'd get my hands on their immigration documents. Yeah, I was fortunate enough to find them through a family member. And yeah, it was crazy. The actual immigration paperwork into Canada, they were labeled as Tartars. And when you dive into that word, you find Native American tribes were called Tartars. Poles were called Tartars. Chinese people were called Tartars. Indians were, India, again, India was a much more later rebranding. But basically everyone that you would think of that's been recolonized by, you know, England especially, right, was labeled that. That makes sense because I've had other researchers say to me, hey, dude, I like you a lot, but this Tartaria stuff that you're going down the rabbit hole with is all bullshit. And it's not even academic or it's not really credible research. And that Tartars was just a term to describe the vast areas out in the world that we didn't know much about. Yeah. Nomadic cultures were also called Tartars. Yeah, you could say mongrels or indigenous or whatever, but that's not far off from what you're saying. It was a kind of a derogatory term. Yes, derogatory for sure. From the people in Rome who were like, you know, fuck all these Tartars out there. Whoever wouldn't toe the line. This is where barbarian comes from. It's the same designation as a Tartar. That's interesting. It was a slanderous term. They didn't call themselves Tartars. It's almost like the people who told me it was all bullshit are basically confirming what you're saying, which is like there were a lot of civilizations out there. Some were quite advanced and they were in opposition to the rise of this false Rome who then took on Christianity. And it's interesting to think, why does our history highlight some civilizations and not others? There's some civilizations that we know kind of just by name. At least their name is in there and they have a little footnote and like, hey, around this time they were here. Yeah, but what about them? You know, it doesn't really get into the story. It's just Romans, Greeks, and obviously Egyptians before that. And that's an interesting thing, too. Maybe this is where I'll end the first hour. But there's always been this story of Egyptian artifacts found in the Grand Canyon. And so you logically have to try to reverse engineer this and think, OK, well, I guess the Egyptians were really advanced and I guess the Egyptians came over here and we just don't know about that. But that is based on an assumption that all mummies come from Egypt or that they were the culture that started the mummies. And so when you're unraveling this, that's just one small example of how you have this idea in your head, this assumption you're making, and then you're trying to fit new information into that assumption when the reality is that Mammoth Cave in Kentucky was full of mummies. And what you say is that you suggest maybe the mummy culture was either more widespread or maybe it started here and the Smithsonian shipped all the mummies to Egypt and then said, hey, everybody, this is where the mummies come from. They were this civilization only. Don't worry about it. Yet you find stories of a farmer digging down, finding a damn mummy. You can't get all of them. If there's thousands, you can clear out Mammoth Cave, but you're not going to get all of them. So it just becomes weird when you have to take these things you thought you could depend on, like mummies come from Egypt, a very fundamental historical premise, and then be like, no, probably not, because this new information suggests that it was vastly different and that there are American mummies all over the damn place. Yeah, and they're much larger, seven feet minimum, anywhere up to nine feet. And yeah, the numbers don't lie. We've talked about this in previous episodes where, you know, you had state representatives, the governor of Colorado, again, petitioning the federal government to help protect all of his ancient archaeological sites that were being completely destroyed. I did an episode talking about, I want to say Swedish, a Swedish prince was caught stealing mummies and a whole bunch of artifacts in, I want to say New Mexico, maybe it was Arizona, but things like this had been happening forever. And when they described the direction that these artifacts are going, it's Europe, nowhere else. You know, whether or not you follow where the Smithsonian takes things, which you never really can. There's no paper trail of that. But even reporters we're talking about, or writers or historians or archaeologists in the timeframe were saying that, you know, if the Smithsonian gets their hands on it, you're never going to be able to look at it or research it or know anything further. But yeah, I mean, just the Kentucky stuff alone is enough to really destroy the whole narrative. There's artifacts everywhere. There are ruins all across the realm. The history for all of these places is incorrect. And the history that we're given about Egypt, it'd be silly not to think that that's an actual real true history. And that most of the mummies that are coming into European museums that they say they're getting from Egypt, they were flat out saying in the 1800s that that's a lie and that they're coming from the Americas. And this Egyptian culture or history that we're given, even in the museums in the 1800s, were actually from America, because most of the expositions in America had these types of mummies. And that's when the rebranding began. You'd have an exposition that would say, look at this mummy we found in Arizona. And then a few years later, it'd be everything was coming from Egypt. That's kind of the pivot. But yeah, like we talked about with Kentucky Cave, I mean, they found over 3000 mummies and all of them were burned. Only the most special ones were kept and they all disappeared. So think about that. Thousands of mummies, thousands. And they were all elegantly wrapped generally in one long piece of woven fabric, one piece. So these entire mummies were wrapped in one piece of fabric. And this correlates with the Etruscan stuff because a writer in the 1800s who made one of the biggest breakthroughs in trying to dissect the Etruscan language, he said, 100% it's Finnish. It's a Finnish language. And the reason he found that was that he found a burial tomb in northern Italy where the body was wrapped in, again, one continuous piece of cloth. And the whole cloth had a story written on it. The entire piece of cloth had letters on the cloth the whole way. And he used that and found that it was completely of the Uyghur Finnish, which, again, relates to, quote, the Tartar language and many other things. But yeah, not to go off on that tangent again, but the mummy thing is incredible. And yeah, they're everywhere. They're all across America. And even just Hollywood and the History Channel, they show us these depictions of what these older people were like. And then that becomes solidified in your mind and you can't unravel a Finnish mummy. What the hell? And here they also hit us with this thing about the morals of it all. Like, oh, you can't disturb an ancient burial mound. You can't disturb an Indian burial. That's completely wrong. But yet you can stack the Egyptian mummies in the British Museum and that's no problem. Aren't you disturbing? They're dead. I mean, why is it this totally quarantined thing here in America that you can't dig up old people? It's just interesting because this is probably where all the secrets are. And so they have to have some kind of cover story that any kind of disturbing of anything underground would be inappropriate. And I got to walk through the British Museum once and I wish I could do it again with everything I know today. I'm sure the time will come if society doesn't completely collapse. But before we really run out of time here, I want to try to fit in some of the Iowa stuff because I know we're not going to come back to it because next time we talk, we're going to have a whole bunch of new work. But these are just some things that I found and then I'll just turn it over to you to maybe give us what you think are some of the biggest things from Iowa. But here's an article from you. It says, live bats underground. When workmen were drilling the artisanal well at Centerville, Iowa, they tapped a subterranean passage, which seemed to be completely filled with bats, not dead or petrified bats, but those of the real live kind. This at a depth of nearly 600 feet below the surface, 25 or 30 of them were brought out alive and well. They seemed to be of the common gray species, but were much larger. So again, larger animals under the surface. And they said these bats were not dead or petrified, meaning that the expectation would be that they were dead or ding, ding, ding, petrified. So I'm helping you out, arguing against myself. Also, here's another one. A foot of a man, at least 12 foot in height, was discovered in a Des Moines riverbed. And another article talks about petrified remains, blood vessels and intestines turned into quartzite, which is again, you know, transmutation. And a subterranean standing forest in Iowa, 1867. The quote here is the earth by which they had been submerged had been gently and gradually. This is the one I was mentioning to you. Yeah, there you go. Deposited around them. So that's wild. And I think I have one more here. Singular discovery. A recent Iowa paper gives the following account of an interesting discovery in Burlington, Iowa. In excavating a cellar for Governor Grimes' new house, the workmen came upon an arched vault some 10 feet square, which on being opened was found to contain eight human skeletons of gigantic proportions. The wall of the vault was about 14 inches thick, well laid up with cement or indestructible mortar. The vault is about six feet from the base of the arch. The skeletons are in a state of preservation and are the largest human remains ever found, being a little over eight feet tall. So, damn. I just love when a story starts with like trying to work on some governor's basement and then whoop, we opened up some shit. And these are obviously giants. And they say in a state of preservation, a.k.a. probably mummification. So, again, just wow. This shit is everywhere for sure. And Fort Snelling, I believe, is in maybe it's in Mississippi, but it's on the Mississippi. OK. I think it's on the Mississippi, Missouri. I can't remember exactly. But yeah. Well, you say like basically all forts. It has a nonsense creation story and is connected to endless miles of underground tunnels. So, that's a lot of the Iowa stuff that I picked out. Then, I mean, you got the Rock Island material and another pyramid at the bottom of a lake. So, it's like Rock Island. From the surface, you're looking at a lake with a rock in the middle. You drain the lake and it's a damn pyramid. That is true in California and several other places where they call something Pyramid Lake. And also, you got the Davenport calendar, runic inscriptions, and tablet calendar stones in Iowa and Rock Island. This is just me kind of cruising through my notes here. But one last one before I turn it over to you. Incredible discovery, Iowa, 1869, subterranean passages under Rock Island, statues of copper, an obelisk of solid brass, most profound expedition ever on this continent. Antiquarian relics, rarest and most interesting, all hope abandoned, any who enter. So, wild. But what would you say is your summary of Iowa and maybe what you find to be the most fascinating or unique thing from that episode? Yeah. So, we mentioned this a little bit at the start, but Davenport, Iowa, which is the city right off, you know, a bridge, goes to Rock Island from Davenport. And Rock Island is showing, again, that cave that they found underground of Rock Island is showing the exact same thing that we found underground in St. Louis. If you remember that episode where we talked about the cave system and what they called remnants of the Assyrian Empire, they found all kinds of Egyptian iconography, statues, tunnels that connected St. Louis with Cahokia. And they were correlating what I've been saying this whole time, that these aren't just burial mounds, that they're actually giant pyramids that go underground. And that they're buried, again, the mud flood stuff, that when they were excavating Cahokia and another mound not far from there called Monk's Mound, which was like the largest mound in the area at the time, these mounds were covered in anywhere from a foot to three feet of earth, mud, whatever, with grass and trees growing on top of them. And yeah, so Iowa, Davenport, the Davenport stone, really, really incredible stone, shows sun worship, a lot of ceremonial effects that are found in all around the globe that have no purpose really being where they are, like many of these out-of-place artifacts. But again, it's just like hopping from St. Louis across the river, same thing with Davenport, you take the bridge over to Rock Island, and below ground you find probably one of my top five articles that I've found. The stuff they find in there, they find giants, they find sarcophagus, they find mummified bodies, they find all kinds of, it's just like the classification where it replaced the idea of the Nile being the Mississippi, and that the true Egyptian culture existed here, or what we've been rebranded and handed as Egyptian culture in Africa. A lot of it is stolen, and again, sent over to Europe, and the classifications are completely flipped. But yeah, so Iowa's, like every state, I try to have a similar flavor, but with just obviously new representation. There's petrified forests, there's buried buildings. One of my favorites from Iowa, just like some of my other states, was on exploring some of these mounds, they found they were actually the tops of buried buildings. So same concept, oh, this is a burial mound, which it actually was, but as they got deeper, they found that it was actually, these people were burying their dead on top of their buried city. And as I get into my Wisconsin episode, we're going to actually get into some lore from some of the, quote, aboriginals of the region, where they describe these giants, and that there's buried cities, that many of these mounds are actually just the tips of these buried cities. So even these Native American, aboriginal cultures are saying, yeah, we buried some of our dead, or some of our ancestors, on top of these cities, because we knew about them. And it was like, their idea of death, and what a lot of them used the term was ancestor worship, was they were just continuing the memory of their ancestors that laid below them. So they knew that these cities are all over, and that they were just burying their dead, like, in their resting place, in their city. And this wasn't like an idea, like, I have to stretch and go really far and try to sell people on this idea that we stand on the shoulders of giants and buried cities and realms. To them, that's the truth. That's what they thought. And once we get into Wisconsin, we're going to kind of circle back and correlate Atlantis. And that's where we're going to get into Pyramid Lake, a famous lake in Wisconsin, where there's a pyramid resting on the bottom. And we'll get into some cultural explanations of the area. We'll get into a really special fort called Atslan, which was a big smelting factory for the Michigan copper. It would come out of Michigan, go there, it gets smelted, broken into ignits, and then shipped to Europe, South America, Asia. And that this region was one of the biggest trading hubs in all of the realm. I love it. That's a great preview of Wisconsin. I'll make sure to try to fit that in to the free show. I'll tag it on to the end there. But one other thing in my notes I glossed over was a reference you had made to spiral staircases. They could walk and talk to their ancestors, referenced in Iowa. Right. So the spiral staircase was a burial mound where they found seven kings. And this may have been Minnesota. I think it was Iowa. No, it was Iowa. They found a mound where they found seven kings all laying in a circle. And the people would walk. They found this trail on the outside of the burial mound. And after talking to some of the locals, they said that once or twice a year, it was a solar significance. They would all circle the mound and they could talk to their ancestors. So, again, connecting this with Julian Jaynes, the bicameral mind, when you really study ancestor worship, they used to call it the Eastern religion because the Chinese, Tartars, Manchus, they all had this understanding that you could speak to your ancestors. This is one of the stories that they had at the mounds there was that their kings were all buried there. And there's a really special signification there because the number seven is very sacred. Seven kings. This ties again with the Etruscans and the seven hills of Rome. So these seven hills, if you look into it, you find that there are literally a hundred or more cities that have seven hills. People have correlated this with the Pallades. There may be a star system reference there, but to me, it's just we're dealing with a culture where they all had this kind of unified religion. I don't want to say a religion because they didn't call it a religion. It was just the understanding. And I think the hearing your ancestors thing goes back again to this cultural age where I think we were kind of still stuck in the middle of in the 1800s, right? And we're kicking all the natives off their land and we're shipping in all these children who have no religion, no understanding of who they are, where they are, where they're from. They're all forced into labor camps, mining, lumber, industry, and they're raised by capitalism. And you could look at that from a consciousness metaphor, and it ties quite nicely in with this stuff we were mentioning in this kind of changeover event. That it's not just we're dealing with survivors of a cataclysm, but it's also like we're dealing with almost two types of consciousness. There was a really amazing book, and I'm spacing the name of it. This gentleman spent a bunch of time with the aborigines in Australia, and he said a very similar thing, that they could hear their ancestors' voices, and that their brains and their chromosome are quite different. I can't remember the exact. I believe they have two extra sets of chromosomes, 48 instead of 46. So they found all kinds of these weird little anomalies, and I use that as kind of the closest representation we can have to actually understanding this shift in consciousness. Although it was a slow one, and then you had the kind of invasion of the Europeans where we created what is America. You know, America is this amazing, great country, but then like once you peel back the layers, so to say, you kind of find the foundations of it are quite monstrable. Yeah, man. Great summary. Really great stuff. I'm all jazzed up. This is one of my favorites. Maybe we just haven't done it in a while, and I've just gone through some mediocre shows recently. But all these episodes I do, they're always kind of in isolation. They're here's a person's research and work. Take it. Sure, some of them connect, some don't. But man, the next one I'm about to record, because I've already started reading his book, people who are longtime listeners are going to see so many similarities between this and that. The Seven Kings thing, the Pleiades thing. I mean, this is part of his bag, too. So it's going to be really fun to have this one-two punch of very similar information. But man, we talked about a lot. I really appreciate the work you do. I'm really happy for you transitioning to full-time researcher. I really, really hope people do dive into your episodes. You got 21, so a lot of people out there can start with their home state. They're under the live tab. You won't find them under the videos. Go to the live tab on YouTube. Sometimes people miss that. I sometimes do. But they're all there. Start with your own home state. Very fun. And if you're a Twitter user, go to the thread that's for your home state, which is probably easier for you to go through at your own pace. But support Analog's work. It is amazing. Anything else to add before I cut you loose? What's the next material after Wisconsin? You got it mapped out that far? Yeah. So I'm working on part three of Buried Empires, Ancient America, which is kind of my Ireland the Great. America was called by many, quote, Europeans, Ireland the Great. In fact, many Nordic cultures called America Ireland or Ireland the Great. And I'm going to make more correlations there, connecting that again with the Etruscan culture. But yeah, so obviously I do most of my shows live for the plain fact, as you understand, that as a person who had a full-time job and a family, I just don't. Editing's a joke. I don't have time for it. So all my shows are live. I plan on having some actual really well-built and edited episodes in the future. And I want to actually collaborate and travel a bit for some of my coming Anomalous America shows. So that's a bit of what I have working on. Logistics for that, obviously, is a little bit daunting. But yeah, I'm going to put a lot more time into the channel here. And, you know, I hop around a lot. So I appreciate you kind of keeping me on point. And I look forward to our next talk. And there'll be a lot more material to cover then. Yeah, man, you are one of the best. And this conspiratorial well never really runs dry. And when you get out to travel in the East Coast, we'll have to powwow with Dr. Longo if you guys will have me. Oh, yeah. Supposedly, again, this isn't set in stone, but we're trying to do like a kind of Atlantis meetup sometime there in Florida and go back over how my material and his material and, you know, the Gulf of Mexico being the true fertile crescent and the kind of hub of Atlantis and stuff like that. But yeah, so if that ever comes to fruition, you'll for sure be one of the first people to know. I appreciate that. Yes, we'll keep up the amazing work. I hope people follow along. And I know I appreciate it. Take care out there. Cheers. Cheers, indeed. Boom goes the dynamite. Yes, people. I can always depend on analog to bring the heat. There really is no shortage of old world material and so much stuff that just doesn't make sense when you look at it critically. I admit it's very hard to restore the context of the day. But even the most skeptical people should find something in analog's repertoire to like, even if you're not yet convinced of the biological transmutation stuff. If your fundamental paradigm is that everything is primarily consciousness and energy, then I suppose anything's possible. So that's how I kind of try to look at the biological transmutation thing. But this is crazy. So I had mentioned some syncs with the last show, and again, I got hit with a big one on this episode. Later on in the day after I recorded this, Facebook served me up a memory, and it was the very same article about the Polish underground salt mine city that I had posted on Facebook six years earlier. I see so much of this stuff that I forget sometimes, but not only had I seen that before, I looked it up myself in the newspaper archives using the term underground city, and I posted that article exactly six years earlier to the day. I mean, that is strange. A lot to like in this one, though. The ice palaces, the asylums, the Kensington runestone, the Etruscans. I can't believe more people aren't watching his state-by-state series as it comes out, but I'm happy to keep this going. There really is so much material. As always around here, the second hour is as good or better than the first. In this case, I would say better. Once Analog was all revved up, he went on a couple of good rants in the plus show. Some stuff that parallels another THC episode coming very soon, probably the next one, unless I do something funny with the order. We also talked about some of his best finds in Iowa, the Rock Island stuff, the underground cave there, the St. Louis connection. I don't need to lay it all out for you. Sign up already. $8 a month for five two-hour full-length shows and no ads. You know the drill. And you also get in on the comments section, probably the best place to talk about THC, and it's totally private. And that is also where you can rate THC episodes, which, of course, we've got to take a look at that regarding the last episode with Gary Lockman on Maurice Nickel. And right now, it's sitting at a 4.5. I will take that. I think that's pretty good. A solid B. I really wasn't sure because I know that that one was pretty narrowly focused, but I like listening to Gary talk about pretty much all of his books. Andy inspired me to buy the Occult Trilogy from Colin Wilson, and my god, these books are huge. I've said before that David Icke's The Trigger is probably the thickest single book on my shelf, but I'd have to measure it now because the Occult is up there. And it has two sequels of equal length called Beyond the Occult and Mysteries, I think 700-plus pages each. Ugh, I don't know when I'm going to get to that, but at least I have a good endorsement, and I can trust that they will be pretty high level. As for the meetup calendar, we have the next event being the Burning Man event at the Vomiting Sparrows on August 28th. And then September 7th, we have Truth Seekers at the Poor House Barbecue in Canaan, New Hampshire. September 8th, Milford, Connecticut at the Red Root Farm. And September 11th, uh-oh, San Antonio, Texas, they are meeting up on the anniversary at the Halcyon Southtown. I do love San Antonio. The Riverwalk, quite nice. Everybody knows this, but still, if you haven't been there, it's got to be my favorite city in all of Texas. So that's that. Find the others free and open to anyone. Just pick a local park or brewery or whatever and throw yourself out there. Give it two weeks at least so that I can read this a couple times on the air and get people to be aware of something in their area. And then hopefully everybody goes to HiresideMeetups.com and RSVPs if they plan to go. Get all the extra details for the event, et cetera, et cetera. Or if you don't hear about one near you, go ahead and make one. But that's the show. Really psyched to get this one out there. I think Analog is a pretty popular guest in the roster and pretty much universally liked by the general audience. And I'm always surprised just how deep this research goes. This stuff is everywhere. Every single state has some underground chambers or hidden ruins that shouldn't be there. It's nuts. And when you compare this stuff to other areas of research where we find ourselves just going over the same handful of stories, it's impressive just how much there really is. So I love it. And big cheers to Analog for feeling like he could leave his job to work on this stuff full time. Please go and give him some views and all that at least, if not a donation. But until next time, I've done my part. Your move, true history hiders, multi-layer liars, and cyclical cataclysm concealers. Your fucking move. He speaks of cities lost in time, where giants roam in legends rhyme. From melted stone to tunnels vast, his tales unfold from first to last. He tells of stars once mapped in stone, now covered secrets overgrown. A petrified devil who wings so wide, anomalous America where mysteries reside. Extra, extra, baby, read all about it. Analog is back on the case. Digital archives reveal big lies the truth they can't erase. From artificial mountains high, to ancient maps beneath the sky. He weaves a tapestry of wonder, with every post he pulls asunder. The seeker of old, in every post, a story bold. He digs through layers, dust and lore, to find what's hidden to explore.