Breaking UFO News: Elizondo’s New Book, Grusch Speaks Out, and the Atlas Question

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This is early information and, of course, subject to change, but the listing is live. The book is titled Reckoning, The Unspoken Truth About UFOs and the Urgency of Now. According to the publisher listing, the pre-order date is the 29th of May, 2026, with the book scheduled to go on sale in late August, 2026. Remember, folks, this is all preliminary stuff. It's on HarperCollins publisher site. It's on the Amazon website. I actually found this because I've been looking every single day for weeks, about two months, actually, for the Jay Stratton book going on one of these sites, where they go on in the background quietly, ages before they go on sale. My book was available online from about March, believe it or not. So, yeah, that's what happens. But I'm going to read you the publisher blurb as it appears right now. A former Pentagon insider reveals the hidden truth about UFOs and why humanity can no longer afford to look away. For decades, governments have concealed the truth about unidentified anomalous phenomena, or UAPs. But now the silence is cracking and the consequences of secrecy are becoming impossible to ignore. In Reckoning, Louise Elizondo, former head of the Pentagon's secretive UFO program, delivers an urgent wake-up call. UAPs are real, the evidence is undeniable, and our future depends on how we respond. Drawing on previously undisclosed evidence, global history, and groundbreaking science, Elizondo reveals why this is not just about strange lights in the sky, it's about technology, security, faith, and the very identity of humankind. This is the pivotal moment. Will we evolve into a species ready to face the truth, or retreat into denial and risk catastrophe? That is the full blurb as listed by the publisher, folks. Again, all early information, details can always change, dates, pricing, all that stuff. It's currently listed at about £22, which is about $27, $28. But given the framing, the language being used, who it's coming from, it's clearly being positioned as a significant moment in the ongoing UAP conversation. Obviously, Lou's last book was a number one bestseller on the New York Times list, done huge numbers. It's over 5,000 ratings alone on Amazon. I'll keep tracking this and share updates as more emerge, but I'd love to know your thoughts on this. What's really struck me is, I'm not surprised Lou has another book coming out. What surprised me is that he's got another coming out before Jay Stratton's, that was announced back in 2024, has even got a listing online. And I have tried, I have looked everywhere. I go on various different publisher sites. You can track ISBNs, books' unique identification numbers, and there's nothing, folks. So yeah, reckoning Lou Elizondo's new book will be available around the midway point of the year, a couple of months after Disclosure Day, and it goes on pre-order the week before, two weeks before that comes out. So pretty, pretty good timing. Let me know your thoughts. I'll be discussing this over the weekend. Tomorrow, I've got Dan joining me for a conversation to pick up where we left off last time. But of course, we'll pick up on some of this news as well. And a couple of other stories I wanted to talk to you about on this news update. David Grush, this was breaking news in itself, and I wanted to record this today or tomorrow, but I had to get this out. It was on the Megyn Kelly show. And I hadn't noticed there's actually two parts. I watched one kind of 13 minute part, although there's a good couple of minutes of Megyn Kelly's sponsorship reads. The actual total content with David Grush is about 10 to 12 minutes. So it starts with Megyn asking David about Age of Disclosure. Really funny moment though, right at the beginning, I've never seen David Grush misspeak or make a mistake. And he got the presenter's name wrong. He called her Zoe or something like that. She didn't look massively impressed, but David being a consummate pro, recovered very quickly and laughed it off. And I'll say right away at the beginning, Megyn Kelly, I don't know much about her background and all that kind of stuff. She really impressed me, really impressed me in the way she spoke about the topic and asked the questions and seemed to have a level of knowledge that wasn't just told to her, as usually happens in these types of segments. But anyway, some of the highlights, folks, is she asked David about Age of Disclosure. He's very clear to say it wasn't a project he fully participated in. Careful choice of language there. I'd be interested to know why he wasn't involved. And I think that was something in the reviews of the movie, the documentary, sorry, he was a glaring omission from that. And I thought he must be involved in the background, but that was filmed over, over two to three years. You know, 2022, I believe, Age of Disclosure began production. And in that time, Grush was in the background. Grush came out in 2023. They never got Grush or did Grush not want to be involved? He's the guy I'm sure you would have wanted. But anyway, he applauds those participating speaking out. Megan gets the quickfire background on Grush and his work that leads to his exposure of the information we heard from him back at those hearings, Recovered Craft, Biologics. It shows Elizondo on Age of Disclosure discussing the legacy UAP programme. Megan Kelly makes the point, if they are crackpots, you know, talking about the cast and the people involved, the 34 speakers, they found dozens of them at the highest level of our governments. That's no jokes in there, folks, regardless of the political aisles you may fall on or which country you're from. Yeah. Grush says, former Secretary of Defences, presidents have been briefed on this depending on how much the deep state trusts them. So not every president, as we know, gets the same briefing, the same level of knowledge, the same assumed knowledge. Says multiple factions in the deep state are guilty of misinformation on this. But also there has been administrations who have tried to put the pieces in place to help ease information coming out. Grush says he was disturbed to find out how this was controlled up the chain, that there was no mob boss as such, you know, no one leader, but he called Dick Cheney, who recently passed away, the closest thing. Of course, his nickname was Darth Vader for many reasons. So he says Dick Cheney was the last real, real guy who you could probably point to and go, if someone's in charge, it's him. Megyn Kelly says, it seems that the career employees are the ones who get the big knowledge, the big importance, the big credibility, not the short term, one or two year positions. And that's something we talk about, isn't it, quite often that if you're a president, you're there for four years at most, eight years if you get a second term. You're not there long term, but whereas a four star general is there for 25, 30, 40 years working their way through the ranks. So it makes more sense that those folks and those lofty positions that aren't voted into place and voted out with limited career terms would know more. That makes a lot of sense if you're trying to keep a secret. Megyn Kelly, speaking really impressively, I said, I've got a note there to mention that, talked about the early, oh yeah, Grush talked about how the early money that was tagged for the global war on terror after the 9-11 attacks was then used by contractors for their own means, was really hard to keep on top of. Grush says the CIA provided disrespectful responses when Luna, Burleson and co tried to get the information they were supposed to be privy to and I'll give you a comment from Representative Anna Plena Luna in just a moment because she was also on with Megyn Kelly yesterday. Grush talked about CIA having skeletons in its closet that are on even national security issues he knows about but can't discuss. Megyn Kelly then mentions in quips that they have literal skeletons in their closet which they laugh at but is also very true probably, allegedly. Keep myself right. David Grush calls out James Clapper. James Clapper, former DNI, he says that Clapper was well aware of the crash retrieval issue and also managed it including putting folks in positions to manage aspects of the crash retrieval, the legacy programme. James Clapper does appear in Age of Disclosure briefly and alludes to maybe having some kind of knowledge but Grush basically says no, no, no this guy knew this guy was in a position of power he was in charge of this so that was really interesting to hear that being called out again live on the air. Grush hasn't seen all of Age of Disclosure just clips of it I found that interesting folks and I'm going to just very quickly pull up a little bit of an issue that happened online yesterday maybe drama maybe nothing but I think it's relevant you know I don't like the drama and gossip bullshit but yesterday Chris Sharp had made a post talking about David Grush and Chris Sharp of Liberation Times mentioned he would add Dave Grush Dylan Borland Matthew Brown Lula Zondo have been badly let down it looks like as part of that there was a comment made on this interview where David Grush talks about being the only person with his background to come forward and speak out Lula Zondo it looks like he took offence to that with a comment on X and this is the problem with short form communication saying the only one huh a little bit maybe irked at David Grush implying he's the only one that's spoken fully a lot of folks have filled in the blanks and think that David Grush is having an indirect dig at Lula Zondo who knows but again that's the issue with some of these online comments and stuff when you don't know exactly what's being said and everything else is there so yeah Luna was also on there gave a very short piece to Megyn Kelly Luna said they want to know what this is from not only a national security perspective but also that Congress who are meant to have oversight and there's that big word again oversight are being denied access and in layman's terms folks for those of us outside the United States Congress are meant to be in charge and have the power to run the country and access what they need to access and they're finding the people they're going to that should be giving them the answers are saying no and that's not meant to be how it works so they are really pissed off and that's what's hopefully driving them forward when it comes to topics like the UFO subject I'm really intrigued with the timing of this David Grush commentary and his interview seems a random place David Grush doesn't just give out interviews every other week you know he's a guy who's tended to keep himself rather private in many ways and is working of course with Burleson and the UEP UEP task force secrets group in the background so maybe worth keeping our eyes on this space if Mr Grush is speaking out a couple of other things I think worth touching on again I would love to get your thoughts on all of this and any questions you've got if you're on YouTube leave comments below if you're not then if you can email me or you can use thatufopodcast.com forward slash contact and I'll get this and put it into the shows with Dan and do the shows with Pavel and this next story is relevant as next week I've mentioned on my interview that just dropped with Ryan Perkey I've got Avi Loeb on the podcast next week talking about 3i Atlas and more of course I think a lot to talk to Avi about but he's just put an article up on his Medium website and I'm going to go into this now so this has been circulating quite a lot and it relates to 3i Atlas of course I've mentioned it a few times on the podcast it is now speeding off away from our solar system out into the vast reaches of space to annoy someone else and this is a response from the CIA that's raised a few eyebrows in the UFO and UAP community so after it was detected a Freedom of Information Act request was submitted to the CIA asking whether the agency held any records relating to the object and this was through John Greenwald of the Black Vault the CIA king himself the FOIA king not the CIA king Christ that's a Freudian slip the FOIA king himself excuse me John the CIA responded using what's known as neither confirm or deny statement in other words they would not say whether records exist or do not exist and stated that even the existence of records would itself be classified that wording is important and you know my stance on 3i Atlas it was a comment nothing more nothing less as far as I can see and tell it's standard language being used by the intelligence agencies when a topic may intersect with classified capabilities methods or assessments it does not itself mean the object is classified and it does not mean the object is CIA is saying it's alien or artificial for example it could be that the instrumentation they were using in orbit or space is itself classified because they use it for various different things they could use it for spying on Chinese satellites I'm just giving examples okay but it can also film stuff really far away and maybe a reasonably good quality that we don't know they have that could be a reason for classification or maybe it was something that wasn't a comet I don't know but that's that's what people are getting at here publicly NASA and the wider astronomical community have described the Atlas as a natural interstellar comet based on trajectory and observed known behaviours so obviously the question being if it is a comet why won't the CIA just confirm or deny the existence of any records Avi Loeb has picked up on this put it out in a Medium article but yeah I will speak to Avi about that he's pointed out intelligence agencies often assess low probability but high impact scenarios privately so this thing is it going to hit us is it not maybe they checked it out way earlier than we knew it existed in other words even if something is most likely natural it may still be examined through classified channels because of what it could represent you would like to think our governments and our best have these warning systems that can find this stuff long before we see it you would hope so and we're not having to send up Bruce Willis and a bunch of oil drillers to sort things out but yeah listen more on that conversation next week I thought it was interesting it picked up some traction online let me know your thoughts on that 3i Atlas and some of the more interesting data and science points to bring up of course with Avi and I'll just touch on two more stories very briefly Chris Bledsoe was on American Alchemy with Jesse Michaels pretty interesting and if you've not heard the Bledsoe story before folks really in a nutshell I've interviewed Chris Bledsoe as have many others and his book UFO of God is just behind me on the shelf the fabled shelf in 2007 Bledsoe reported a UFO encounter while fishing with his son he says he experienced marked the beginning of ongoing activity including repeated sightings missing time on that night glowing orbs series of encounters that have moved beyond traditional UFO reports into consciousness spirituality and a lifetime of since then observations by intelligence agencies three letter agencies and the like it's the stuff of legend so is it worth checking out it is over three hours long but I'll say that you know Jesse Michaels is a very intelligent guy he's a very thorough researcher and puts together these wonderful packages that he'll bring up for example T-Towns End Brown and that goes into a whole other sphere of time travel groups and stuff like that but they'll do a little sidebar and really cool packages if I was doing this full time I'd love to do little bits and pieces like that they take a lot of time a lot of effort a lot of research and a lot of videography work so they're really informative is what I'm saying the interview itself he asks Chris a lot of leading questions I would like to see him ask Chris some stuff for Chris to open up and give bigger answers he tends to ask him questions with a lot of information packed into them and then say is that right to which Chris can say yeah and he doesn't really have much to expand on he can then just go off on tangents maybe perhaps the audience this is aimed at Jesse at the end of a lot of stuff Chris says and I'm not saying push back and tell him to bits but Jesse tends to say wow that's amazing a lot at the end of Chris's statements rather than maybe dig into other scenarios maybe some of the some of the other angles and just dig a little bit deeper for me on some of Chris's more out there statements but yeah he does say to be fair to him discernment is really important in this topic but I would have loved to have seen that discernment focused more on the interview and some of those wilder claims really for me because it seems to have gone way beyond a UFO story and a UFO experience I can see and I'm not claiming this folks by any means okay I can see why so many folks online if you check the comments the social commentary a lot of bigger accounts are saying this is becoming almost more like a cult and I think the big thing that really irked me I suppose would be Chris claiming there are three types of people those who can see this stuff those who can't and then those he can teach to see now he's saying if you're too sceptical you can't see I don't buy that I'm sorry that's it's too absolute absolutist I don't like that coming down on something of this is how it is and if you don't like it then you're wrong there's not enough and how many times have I said at the start of the year I said I need to hear people for me to really have credibility more say I don't know maybe perhaps disagree but not just come down on if it's not this then that's it it's too it's too absolutist and I don't like that approach but if you've got the time it's worth digging into there's plenty of clips out there Jesse Michael stuff is wonderfully put together he's so thorough and he presents incredibly well too one final thing then James Fox when I spoke to him the other week he made a claim that in the next week or so which is any day now any day now there was going to be a big announcement and that should be well we're presuming it's going to be something around a press club type event we're still waiting on that announcement coming soon Rony Vernet has announced online Brazilian journalist that he's got a documentary coming out on the Virginia incident in a couple of weeks around the anniversary of the event I do not believe this is what it is I've not had James Fox confirm that or not but it looks totally separate I don't think that's what James is talking about and I genuinely don't know exact details but largely online people seem to presume it's a new press club type event so the documentary that's coming out and this are two very different things Rony Vernet's documentary sounds a little bit strange isn't this topic always but he talks about black magic being involved in the lead up to the event and these things were perhaps summoned through black magic rituals and what not really intriguing a little bit out there I'll certainly watch it for the podcast and give a review and let you know folks but yeah so we're still waiting on James Fox's announcement but listen there we've had Lou Elizondo's new book dropping out of nowhere David Grush interview out of nowhere Ana Paulina Luna chiming in some stuff on 3i Atlas of course Avi Loeb joining me next week and I just want to finish by saying very quickly reminder over the next few days I've got Dan joining me for the second part of our look ahead to 2026 and I've got loads of comments in there already but anything else you want to send in let us know any questions I'll touch on from the news I've read out today also Pavel from Seco Activo is coming on this weekend with me that'll come out next week with his perspective on things he's been quite vocal in terms of the community and the interactions people have the Chris Bledsoe story and how people have reacted to that so I'm really looking forward to a bit of a back and forward with Pavel and his thoughts and digging into things early in 2026 so any and all questions thoughts opinions get over and I'll get those to the guys and please check out my interview with Ryan Perkey I've interviewed him today on his wonderful article on Donald H. Menzel who is the godfather of scepticism and perhaps was the guy who initiated the whole UFO cover-up back in the day and he's got an incredibly fascinating background Ryan's done so much work into Donald Menzel and we dig into a time period back in the 30s 40s 50s around Donald Menzel and we expand into sceptics and modern day scepticism how that works how it feeds into the UFO topic really interesting it's in two parts on the free feed so you've got three shows dropping within 24 hours folks lucky you if you're on the paid feeds thank you so much for signing up to those free trials and special offers all the links are in the description all that support is appreciated but it means you get that interview for two hours with Ryan Perkey in full and free with no ads and a final shout out to those who are still listening if you bought my book on that special offer or whatever price you've paid for it it shot up the Amazon charts folks bear in mind there are millions of books on sale on Amazon it's currently sitting at 715th in the general chart but it's number one in UFOs mythological encyclopedias and haunted in travel some very niche markets but wow thank you so much and to see it going up those charts with the reviews is wonderful so thank you so much please check out those Ryan Perkey interviews get your questions over for Avi Loeb get your questions over for Dan and myself for Pavel and myself and yeah interesting times the year is starting I think pretty hot and I think it's going to get hotter as the days weeks and months go on so look forward to speaking to you all again very very soon that's all for this episode of That UFO Podcast thank you so much for listening and watching if you enjoyed the show please follow subscribe and leave a rating or review wherever you get your podcasts it really helps others find the show if you're watching on YouTube hit like subscribe and turn on notifications so you don't miss future episodes you can also support the show directly and get early access add free episodes and bonus content on Patreon or by subscribing on Apple Podcasts Spotify or YouTube memberships all the links are over at thatufopodcast.com or in the show description below along with merchandise and more don't forget you can also pick up a copy of my book Atlas of Unidentified Flying Objects available now in all good bookstores and through online retailers including Amazon big thank you again to all of you for listening and tuning in until next time keep looking up you never know what you might see