Chris Knowles | King Kill ’24, P. Diddy, UnitedHealthcare, & The Sibylline Age

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Join Plus, and I'll keep bringing you the best two-hour interviews I can on a wide range of weird, controversial, taboo, alternative, and hopefully even informative topics with the best guests I can get. But until you do, here's another free first-hour interview on the house. Enjoy! It's the end of the world as we know it, but I feel fine. From the Sunshine State, I'm Greg Carlwood. And what are we to do when the entertainment aimed at distracting and pacifying the good people is no longer able to hold anyone's attention, and the pre-approved state-sponsored media narratives have completely collapsed under the weight of their own obvious inaccuracies? Might we be in the rumored midst of the apocalyptic revealing, the long-predicted Great Awakening, or the often-discussed inevitable collapse? Some might even say these options are all just different perspectives on the same happening, something baked into the cosmic cycle of death and rebirth far above our pay grades. Still, with a deeper understanding of how things work under the hood, the ruling sorcerarchy seems to see reality as a stage for psychodrama, theatrics, astro, rituals, and ancient Babylonian archetype embodiment to such a degree that we wonder if anything is truly genuine. Is everyone in public life carefully constructed to play roles designed to game a reality running on narrative and synchronicity? Can the beats and rhythms of the cosmos be shepherded towards advantageous outcomes that truly make order out of chaos for the ruling occultists, and are seemingly natural and random events actually scripted and pre-planned to maintain cultural control until it inevitably becomes too much? Well, these are the questions I wrestle with every time we get together with the great and powerful Christopher Laurie Knowles. He's been blogging about these things since 2007 at the infamous Secret Sun blog, which has blossomed into an amazing content library and community as the Secret Sun Institute of Advanced Synchromysticism. He's the author of seminal texts like Our Gods Wear Spandex, The Secret History of Comic Book Heroes, The Spandex Files, The Death, Rebirth, and Re-Death of Comic Book Heroes, The Secret History of Rock and Roll, The Mysterious Roots of Modern Music, and The Secret Sun Synchromystic Handbook, as well as the rock-solid curated collection of the best content from the blog, The Endless American Midnight, and his wild sci-fi supernovel, He Will Live Up in the Sky. We finally met in physical space at this year's Astro Gnosis event, and it's a pleasure to be doing this once again. The Astro Ritual Revealer, Psychodrama Detail Decoder, and the Dean of the Secret Sun Institute. Chris, my good man, welcome back. Thank you, sir. It's great to be here. Yeah, man. So the last couple times we've done this, we have focused on the releases of the Synchromystic Handbook and The Spandex Files. We haven't really done a synchromystic year-in-review in a while, so that's the overarching theme today. And right out of the gate, I wanted to say that you did a post about the eclipse back in February titled, King Kill 24, paying homage to the legendary King Kill 33, but that was long before the Trump assassination attempt in July and the ceremonial political killing of Biden shortly after. If events are somewhat faded based on astro configurations and, of course, eclipses, this was super fortuitous on your part. What was it about this eclipse that had you connecting it to a theme like the killing of the king? Well, there's been a lot more going on besides the eclipse. We also had the Devil Comet. Let me just see what it was called here. It was Comet 16P or something. Let me see here. We also had the Devil's Egg or the Dragon's Egg Nebula. This is also the year of the dragon. And they're saying that they found a new star in Corona Borealis, which is the northern crown. I mean, things have just been crazy up in the sky. And the space weather, we've got a huge turnover now where Pluto is going from Capricorn into Aquarius. And the interesting thing for me is that when I look this up, I realize that I started doing the whole siren thing on the secret sun just as Pluto was moving into Capricorn. So I'm terrible at astrology. So don't ask me what it really means altogether. I mean, yeah, so it's Comet 12P, Pons, Brooks, and the Horned Comet or the Devil Comet, right? And parent body of Kappa Draconid. So the Draconids I've talked about in relation to Revelation 9. And this all ties in, of course, to the Book of Revelections, a series that I've been doing on the election. You know, there's this whole school of thought that says nothing ever happens. And that school of thought, I think, is being wildly disproved this year. Things do happen. It's just that they happen and then they're just sort of absorbed by social media. You know what I'm saying? It's not like the old days when it would be all the sensationalism on network television and so on. A lot of things are happening. Things are changing. We are in the midst of so many cycles ending and beginning, all right? So, you know, you asked me why this eclipse was so important, because I think it marked this very pivotal year. And one of the things that I've been talking about, and I'm going to be writing about quite a bit in the next year, is how reality is just kind of changing. And everybody kind of notices it, but nobody can really put their finger on it, you know? Nobody can really quite figure out yet how reality is changing. Like, what is going on? I mean, I call this the shimmer after the film Annihilation. So, there's all this stuff going on in the sky, in the skies. We've got this huge alignment coming up in January. These are momentous times. I mean, you know, we've got this war in the Middle East that just keeps growing and growing and growing and growing. We've got the war in Ukraine. That could spread. The European Union countries are talking about reinstating the draft. You know, they want to raise a large standing army because they think they have to fight Russia. I think it's more that they want to invade Russia because that's always worked out so well in the past. These are momentous times, and I think the eclipse really marks it. And I think things didn't go quite the way that I was, maybe that the symbolism was saying. I mean, I don't like to make those kind of predictions. But the killing of the king, you know, the sacrificial king ritual kind of did play out in more than one way. And I think a lot of it had to do with what they did to Biden, which was long overdue. And the assassination attempts on Trump, which I know there's a lot of controversy on. But that kind of ties into, you know, my interpretations of Revelation 13 and the Mark of the Beast. And then, of course, we have Elon Musk, who just all of a sudden seems to be running everything, seems to be running the show. You kind of wonder who's the president and who's the vice president. You know, it seems like we've got President Elon Musk and Trump is just there because Musk can't run himself. And it's just such a strange time. And I don't think people really fully understand it because it's kind of like when your hair grows. You're used to have your hair growing. But if, you know, you grew your hair for like three years and somebody didn't see you at all in that intervening period, they'd be like, oh, my God, what happened to your hair? You know what I'm saying? And that's kind of like what's going on now. So, you know, again, the eclipse is just kind of a marker for all this activity, this larger activity that I think we're looking at. And I think this devil comet and the dragon's egg sort of showing up in the sky are huge signs and probably huge signs to the people who try to take advantage of this. And I would also offer, that's why we saw this blatant, ridiculously blatant symbolism at the Olympics. Yeah, you're always really good at those big public rituals and decoding them. So I've got so many notes on little things that you just mentioned. Let's just back it up to the beginning of that post. I mean, King Kill 24, you say, The eclipse is just a little bit more than two months away. And amazingly, the very first city that the path of the eclipse crosses over when it enters the U.S. is Eagle Pass, Texas. There are more than 19,000 incorporated cities, towns and villages in the United States. And out of all of them, Eagle Pass is the very first that the eclipse will touch. Since these eclipses are figured out far ahead of time and the federal government is ruled over by sorcerers, it's safe to say that the manufactured migrant crisis didn't end up at that particular location by happenstance. And I would agree. This is just one example. I mean, people really have to stretch in their minds to remember the Eagle Pass incident. But the reason we're looking back at the year is to try to reverse engineer this template, the blueprint, the way they do their rituals and the way they do their workings. We got to go back to unpack it all and kind of see how the pieces fit in retrospect. So this is a great example. I mean, that is odd. So help us understand the logic there. If eclipses bring crisis, is this an attempt to engineer a crisis at that introductory location? Because as far as the cosmos would be concerned, it's just about the energy release, I would think. And that's something you can game if you have the sort of power to make events happen. Is that how you interpret what we're seeing there? The thing is with eclipses that they always seem to signal like some momentous change. In politics, in war, in population, and so on. And I think they obviously knew that the eclipse was going to touch down at that particular location in the continental United States. Obviously, it went through Mexico before. But that event may have been ritualistic. And again, think of it almost like as homeopathy. So it's like you want just a little bit of that poison so you can sort of manage. Or even like maybe in a vaccination of sorts. Uh-oh. You create like this crisis, but it's a crisis that you created and that you can manage and then you can solve. And that somehow is a form of ritual ceremonial magic to try to head off this larger issue that you can't control. That you're worried about being overwhelmed by. Yeah, well said. That's exactly what I was thinking. Like in the intro when I leaned on that order out of chaos phrase. It's like, you know an event is supposed to happen with this cosmic energy because it just always does. So you make the event and then you don't have to worry about random things out there because you got it covered with this thing that you created. That you engineered. You kicked the can over, you know, to start the thing. And, you know, who knows to what degree, what detail they're organizing it. But you can arrange a migrant caravan, a migrant mob to enter at this location and then just take your hands off the wheel and then just say, oh, well, this is the thing. But I just don't know how the universe responds or like what it is about the relationship between the path of the eclipse and this. It's not like the eclipse is conscious or the moon and sun are saying, OK, that counts. Fine. We'll ease up. You know, it's just like it's weird to think about the cause and effect of eclipses or any kind of celestial event and human activity. Well, I think it all sort of stems back to anxiety and there are certain outcomes that they are anxious about, let's just say. You can make all these kind of arguments about how things are planned and whether Trump's victory was foreordained and so on. I would kind of maybe argue with that a bit, you know, maybe among some people. But when you're dealing with these vast organizations, you've got so many people with different agendas that are hard to manage, you know, particularly in an organization when you have all these different power centers constantly fighting with each other. So one of the problems that I really have with a lot of conspiracy thinking is like it's just this Saturday morning cartoon where like the Joker is like, hey, we're going to do this, you know, and then like he just flicks a switch and everything falls in line. You know, it doesn't work that way. There's so many moving parts. There are so many things that can go wrong. My personal opinion is that they're always going to run Kamala. They knew that Biden wasn't going to make it to the home stretch. Yeah, finish line. Never mind the finish line. I'm saying the home stretch. He definitely wasn't going to make it to the finish line. And I think what happened is that. They always knew that she was going to come in, but I think there were certain people like particularly within the Biden family who weren't cool with that. There's different interpretations of why they scheduled that debate that he was so disastrous and so early. Some people saying that people in the Biden family wanted to make it seem like he was still capable and he could still stand up and so on and so forth. He couldn't. And then some of the people saying that people within the DNC just wanted the world to see what a train wreck he had become so they can get him out of there and run Kamala. I think the agenda was always to run Kamala. And a lot of it has to do with what I've talked about in the Book of Revelations. You know, just the fact that she has these two stars in Andromeda that are so closely tied. I mean, just for people who don't know, Andromeda, the constellation, the two stars on the end. One is Kamala backwards and one is Harris backwards. Sira and Amalek. Yeah. Those are the two main stars in that constellation. Right. And you look at that and you think, OK, well, how can that be possible? My mind says, well, Kamala Harris isn't her real name. She is a construct of a person because you're not changing the stars. Yeah. So what can you change? You're going to change this person. So you made someone fit the archetype. Now, Andromeda is known as the Chained Lady. So then you get into the Fallen Babylon. So you get into this motif that, like, she was never going to win. She's kind of a sacrifice. I think of Leia tied up under Jabba the Hutt's chain. And so she was presented as a viable option, but never really was. And so she fills the archetype of the Chained Lady, as well as having the damn first and last name. I don't know what that means. How do you work that out? My interpretation under this model would be, and granted, this is entirely speculative, is that she was going to fall, but it was going to be after she was elected. I've been watching a lot of this footage of all these network news shows the night of the election. Everybody was convinced she was going to win. All the anchors, all the guests, I mean, people rather high up in the hierarchy were all convinced that they had this in the bag, she was going to win. What my interpretation would be is that if they put Kamala in, it's time to shut America down. So it's like she's not going to fall. She's going to, well, she might fall, but America is going to fall. Like it's time to just wrap up the American experiment and do something new. You know, move the locus of money and power east, what they call the Asian pivot and so on and so forth. So, I mean, I think she was destined to fall. I just honestly don't think that they expected her to fall that quickly. And don't forget that, you know, Andromeda in the myths is not only tied to Perseus and Perseus is tied to Mithras, but she's also tied to Tel Aviv, right? Because Andromeda's rock is in Jaffa Harbor, old Jaffa, which is part of Tel Aviv now. So that whole myth with release the Kraken, remember release the Kraken from the last election, right? Which is actually Cetus, Kraken is not Greek. I think this was all very carefully orchestrated and it was all part of the sympathetic magic because she's so closely tied to Tel Aviv and so on and so forth. Like, you know, Andromeda's literally tied to Tel Aviv at the rock, right? So I don't think that they expected her to lose. And I think that something changed. I think there were people within the campaign that knew issues going to lose because they had the internal polling. But I think a lot of people had blinders on. Now, bear in mind, I didn't vote for either one of these people, so I have no dog in this fight. But I think that this messes up their plans. And this is why I think they're so depressed. Now, back in 2016, you had me on your show after the election. We were talking about the fugue state. And after the election, there was this, for about a couple of weeks, almost a month, there was this weird fugue state where, like, nothing was happening. But what they were doing is that they were ramping up Russiagate. They took out Michael Flynn. They were setting up all these schemes to get the electors to switch their votes, you know, in the Electoral College. By this time in 2016, you know, the sabotage Trump agenda was in full blast, mid-December. Right. Weird that it's not this time. Yeah. And also just the sense of defeat and resignation that I'm seeing. It's interesting because what I'm reading now is that there's huge discrepancies in the ballot count in Orange County in California. A lot of the races that flip to Democrats are going to flip back. But that is going to open up a whole can of worms. So I think that a lot of the rituals that we're seeing, I think the wing of the power structure that is organizing all these things is the globalist wing. OK. The globalist wing, the occult wing. But I also think, you know, I know you want to talk about Diddy. I also think this whole Diddy situation was orchestrated by these people, these shadowy kind of what the Nixon crowd called rat fuckers. In the Trump crowd, I think that this whole Diddy thing was not an accident. I don't think this just popped out of the clear blue sky. I don't think this was happenstance. I agree. It totally played a role. And the memes would suggest it. I know you like a good meme, but the memes were basically saying it looks like everybody who was at a Diddy party was paraded out to support Kamala Harris. Almost as if the DNC had control of the blackmail file and put a gun to everybody's head and said, go out there and say how much you love her. And then people picked up on that and they were like, well, I don't trust the opinion of these people. These people are all creeps is what I'm figuring out. So I think that was a plan. And then it was so obvious it kind of backfired. But I wanted to throw this out with the chained lady. So according to Google, in the Andromeda constellation, the fallen lady refers to the mythological figure Andromeda depicted as a chained woman in the sky representing the story where she is chained to a rock as a sacrifice to a whale like sea monster. And you say Trump could be the whale like sea monster because he's from Atlantic City, a.k.a. Atlantis. And people do poke fun at his weight, especially for a modern president. But I thought that was kind of interesting. So I got on this whole names backwards thing and I put in Biden's name backwards and I found that it is a word. It's a Hebrew word that means sower of corrupt seed. And I'm like, that's the story with his damn son. And it's like, wow, that's kind of a hit. I think it fits. But needed. So needed is the word. Yeah, it's a word in Hebrew. And it's always like you say, Babylonian or Egyptian or something about the stars. But Hebrews up there in the mix of things that come up, like when it's a hit in Hebrew, I pay attention. If it's a hit in Polish, I don't really think much about it. Yeah, that's a weird one. Well, Hunter's not even his real name. So Hunter connects to Orion. Beau and Hunter. Like, that's kind of crazy. His two sons' names. Yes. Well, again, these names, who are these people? Right. Where do they come from? Biden is such a sketchy character, too, because when he was elected to the Senate, that's when his wife had that fatal accident. His wife and was it one of his kids? Like a daughter. His wife and daughter were in that fatal accident, which just, I don't like the way that feels. And then his one son started banging the other son's wife after he died? Yeah, and then he marries the babysitter. The much younger woman, it's, I read too many, like, crime thrillers to not be alarmed by all those coincidences. So you mentioned marrying the babysitter. Let me throw this out, because I don't want to talk over people's heads who don't have the context. Because you wrote the blog, I read the blog, but people are just listening here. So you mentioned also the, with the killing of the king, there's the obvious interpretation, but then there's also, like, a fool king that gets put in. So the post is titled, King Kill 24, but first, Ritual Humiliation. And you write, Babylon is the ultimate spiritual spawning ground for the sorcerarchy and the eternal touchstone for all their gods, beliefs, actions, and spellcraft. No educated person disagrees with that. So what did Babylonian soothsayers think about eclipses? According to Babylonian scholars, eclipses could foretell the death of the king. The conditions for an omen to be considered as such were not as simple. For instance, according to a famous astronomical work known by its initial words, Enuma Anu Enlal, if Jupiter was visible during the eclipse, the king was safe. Well, okay, what if Jupiter was not visible? That, as the kids say, gets a bit more complicated. That is where the substitute king ritual comes into play. The substitute king ritual was an ancient Mesopotamian religious rite of human sacrifice documented most clearly in Assyria, which was performed to safeguard the king from the danger perceived to come from evil omens. These omens were generally thought to arise from certain astrological events, such as eclipses. Once a substitute was chosen, he would be taken to the palace where he was washed, anointed, and given wine and food. He was dressed in the king's robes and decorated with the royal garb and other crown jewels, then placed upon the throne. And then you say, oh dear, this next part of the spell calls to mind rumors and memes that Jill Biden was the Biden's babysitter and started banging Joe on the sly when she was just 15. Ritual tablets also state that a girl or virgin was chosen to serve as his queen and seated by his side. So here you have girl virgin chosen as his queen. I mean, he married this woman. So this is the rumor. And you kind of say, are these rumors true? Who knows? But they were definitely put in the public mind for ritualistic purposes. And in that post, you go on to say that it's pretty clear to everybody that Biden's a puppet president. It seems like he's a puppet of the Obama administration, really. So, you know, you kind of lay out a scenario. Well, maybe the real king comes back and somehow, under a weird circumstance, it's Obama. But honestly, Trump came back. The king came back. One of the only people elected non-consecutive terms in this country's history. One of two. I mean, the king came back. I don't want to lean in on the god emperor shit, but I mean, hey, the king came back. The king's home. Thank your daddy, Trump. That reminds me a lot of Caesar, too. You know, because Caesar sort of got driven out of power and then came back. And the Trump assassination attempt was on Caesar's birthday. Yes. What's going on here, people? There's so much going on that I really start to wonder if the people who are orchestrating some of these rituals can even keep track of them anymore. No, I'm serious. I mean, there's just so many moving parts. And the problem is, is that we don't have the centralized authority that a lot of conspiracy people assume we have. You know, that there's some Illuminati group that's just pulling all these strings and everybody follows their orders, which completely contradicts everything we know about human nature and the way we see Simpson work. It's very hard for me to say exactly if this played out the way they wanted it to play out. Maybe Biden was supposed to die. I mean, who knows? If Biden had died, that would have ensured Kamala's election. A slam dunk. That always happens because of this huge wealth of sympathy. And Trump would probably say something stupid or offensive, and that would be the end of it. But like I said, I think there are all these different factions at work. And I think even if Jill was once the babysitter or whatever she was, whatever her relationship was, I mean, it's pretty clear to everybody who watches this situation closely that she was the queen. I mean, she's running the show, for him at least, backstage. The thing that I also wanted to point out that I don't think people really paid attention to, people talk about the Biden imposters wearing masks. I would argue very strongly that the Biden that we saw at the State of the Union was not him. I think it was an impersonator. And if you look up photos of him, it's clearly a mask. The eyes are set in, so there's clearly another layer there. And also, he has no eyelashes. But if you look at the pores of the skin, it looks like rubber. It doesn't look like real skin. There's so much going on with this guy. And realize at the same time, they're trying to run this whole Ukraine situation. And then the whole situation in Israel with Gaza flares up. It could just well be that there are so many things going on that they couldn't have pulled it off maybe the way they could have done if they had already wrapped up Ukraine, if this whole situation in the Middle East didn't explode. You know, and then we had the Houthis and then Hezbollah and all this kind of stuff. So I think if this didn't all flare up at once, maybe things would have gone differently. And like I said, there were so many omens. There's so many things in the sky that traditionally over the centuries, over the millennia, you know, soothsayers and magicians and sorcerers would take advantage of. I.e. the comet, the devil's comet, and the dragon's egg. This is the year of the dragon, right? And then this new star in Corona. Not only do we have Corona, but we have the, you know, it's the crown, it's the king. So it's a double meaning. I mean, are coronaviruses actually coronaviruses or is this just a term that was created for ritual purposes? You know, who pays the bills of the people who make these determinations? Because if you look at a coronavirus, does it look like a crown to you? You know what I'm saying? Like, why would you call that a corona? I don't understand the terminology there. It looks like a rolled up hedgehog or something. You know, I don't understand why they call that a crown. It doesn't look like a crown. It doesn't even look like, you know, people said it's the corona around the sun and everything. So there's all this like very, very potent imagery popping up over and over again, dealing with kingship. Like I had just done a huge live stream on the whole situation that we talked about in Las Vegas back in 2017. Yeah. Great live stream. People should check it out. There's way more detail in it. And I considered trying to go there, but it was just so hard to know what we talked about and what we didn't. And I thought most of it would be a review of an already very popular previous interview. But you add on several more layers. I always do. I don't do reruns. You know, it's always like the extended director's cut when I revisit a topic, right? But there was all that symbolism with Regulus and Regulus is the king. You know, Regulus is the Latin root of royal and all these other kind of terms, regent and so on and so forth. And one thing that I just really need to caution people, and I find very, very frustrating, is that people always assume that they can pull these things off without hitches. And I think it's getting harder and harder to do. And I would just point you to the Olympics, where it was just such an incredible mess. And everybody was outraged by it. You know, we do have the Knowles' First Law in there because, you know, it's the Last Supper. And yes, obviously there is that connotation. But really what it was, it was the Titans feasting on Dionysus. Because that figure at the center, the blue dude, you know, who's on the little platter and they lift up the dome. I mean, that's the Titans. So that's the Watchers, the Giants. Yeah. Which so many people miss. They think it's Christianity, Satanism stuff. And so often, as you always note, it's Watcher Worship. Yeah. Listen, people make fun of me for that. Oh, it's like Chris Null's Watcher Worship, Watcher Worship. Well, listen, I've been tracking this for a long time. And I've read the literature. Anybody who doesn't believe me, just go read those early Alice Bailey books. Because she just puts it right out there in front. She's just saying the Watchers were the good guys. This was all some cosmic misunderstanding. They're going to come back. They're going to take over the world. We're going to live in this incredible golden age. I mean, she doesn't, like, couch it in allegory or metaphor. It's just like, that's what she says, flat out, over and over again in those early books. And clearly, she's tied up with very powerful people in Wall Street and the UN and the British Ministry of Defense and so on. So there's clearly, you know, once you know what you're looking for, you see it everywhere. The problem is, is that, like you said before, it's like, Satanism, Satanism, Satanism, Satanism. It's just like, please stop. First of all, you just make yourself sound like an idiot when you're going on about Satanism all the time. And secondly, that's not what they're into. And they will play these accusations and these controversies up in the media. That's their cover. You know, Satanism is their cover because what it really is, is that it's like a very weird and very old occult religion. And it has rules. It has laws. It has texts. Okay. It has artwork. It has history. Satanism has none of that stuff. So, so let me throw this out because I don't want it to just be a review of a highly political year that everybody is sick of the politics of it all. But to come back to the eclipse itself, there's always something to note about NASA. And sure enough, you made a post on the day of the eclipse where you say, Ra is typically seen with three companions on his solar bark, a.k.a. solar ship, when hunting the sun-eating APEP. We see Ra with Thoth, Neckbet, and Seth. Well, NASA is launching three rockets at the eclipse for its so-called APEP program. APEP being the great serpent god of chaos. In other words, 1,000% ritual. I love the ongoing examples of NASA's ritualized missions and launches, even if we never really pin down why they do it or what they get out of it. We're looking at a template here that we've seen many, many times. What they get out of it is they serve their religion. And APEP, Apophis, in the ancient myths, that's how they explained away eclipses. I mean, that's the obvious symbolism there. Actually, the Guardian did this whole big thing on conspiracy theorists, and they had actually included my tweet in the article, because I had actually tweeted about that before I actually ran it. So, yeah, NASA's really big into, like, the Egyptian interpretation. I mean, it all ultimately goes back to Sumer. That's where all this kind of religious symbolism and archetypes ultimately date back to. But, you know, it's spread throughout the world, and everybody put their little spin on it. And, you know, since NASA's very heavily Masonic and everything, they tend to be very partial to the Egyptian stuff, you know, like Osiris-Rex and APEP. And it's just... Apollo. It's just become so absurd that, you know, you just can't help but laugh at it. It's also become so blatant, because they are taking advantage of the fact that most people have no idea what any of the symbolism means. And they can always play up the whole satanic panic angle when people just have these knee-jerk reactions to it. I mean, this is why I'm constantly trying to warn people against that. Unfortunately, I think it's just a lot more fun to get worked up about Satanism than to actually sort through what the precise symbolism at work is. Yeah. I mean, I totally don't get jazzed up by Satanism. But so often, you know, in this space, interviewing conspiracy authors and researchers, every so often, I have someone who's just fixated on that aspect. And I want to take them to your website, but, you know, it just never gets there. I mean, people have made up their minds about what they think things are, but I'm on your page. So I wanted to go back to the Trump assassination attempt just because we mentioned that it happened on Julius Caesar's birthday. Well, that's also Harrison Ford's birthday. And so what, right? Well, his next role is as president in Captain America Brave New World, where he survives a public assassination attempt. But that's not all. There's also a connection to Marvel where the shooter, Thomas Matthew Crooks, always with the three names, went to the same high school as the longtime editor-in-chief of Marvel, a guy named Jim Shooter. Yes. I mean, Jesus Christ, that's layered on pretty thick. Yeah. Again, is that his real name? Is that who he's really from? I mean, have you noticed how buried that story has become and how little investigation or information has been revealed about it? You know, that was clearly ritual. Some people think it was all staged, you know, that it was a fake assassination. Could well be. I don't know. I just have a little trouble with the logistics of it. But there was clearly very heavy ritualistic aspects to it. And my friend Recluse had told me that back during the French and Indian War, there was an assassination attempt on George Washington in Butler, Pennsylvania. Wow. So, I don't know. But then they also had that rally where Musk is jumping around looking, you know, totally autistic. He got a lot of heat for that. So, it could well be. I mean, maybe that was going to be the killing of the king ritual. Well, maybe they knew that the election was not going to go their way, so they were going to make Trump the sacrificial king. I would not put it past it. And then that totally fits. So, some people, again, say, you know, Trump had staged this whole thing. And again, I would not deny that out of hand. I would just need to see better evidence of it. But it could well be that this is the king kill that they were going to stage because they knew that their other plans were not going to work. What does it matter to the gods? You sacrifice one king or the other. And look, Trump's approval ratings, the odds that he was going to be elected just sort of shot up after that, no pun intended. But also, Crooks, what is his full name? Thomas Matthew Crooks. So, yeah, there's Thomas and Matthew, two of the apostles. And then the Crooks, the good shepherd, right? The shepherd's crook. And let me throw this out. This is from your post. But the ancient ritual of anointing priests on the right ear with blood. I wasn't going to bring it up. But then with Thomas and Matthew and Crooks all being biblical, in Leviticus 8.23, Moses slaughtered the ram and took some of its blood and put it on Aaron's right ear. It's a symbolic match. It's even the right ear, not the left ear. One thing that I would just say, though, because we're recording this now when the Mangione guy who shot the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, which some people also think was stage and ritualistic. I haven't really looked into it deeply enough, but, you know, there's all this numerology that's showing up. But the one thing that I would be very cautious about, and particularly when you're trying to ascertain whether something is ritualistic or not, is that you also have to realize that more and more, I mean, it's definitely accelerating. Synchronicity is becoming more and more apparent to more and more people. And just because we do have all this symbolism and stuff, that's when you really have to sort of dig into the details. Because too many people just stop and just say, oh, look at the symbolism. It had to have been some sort of ritual. Well, that's lazy thinking. You know, you've got to keep digging. You've got to dig deeper. Because there is this process that we're all experiencing now, and I really have to make it very clear to people, because it's very real, that we're entering a synchromistic age. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how else to put it. I mean, we really are. And I think that we need to come to grips with that. Yeah, fair enough. And another thing about Thomas Matthew Crooks and comparing him to the UnitedHealthcare shooter, Luigi... Mangione. Mangione. It's too early to say at the time of recording what is going on with this guy. But if you just compare what we know about these people, even go back to James Holmes, it's like we get the same three photos. Here's three pictures of the guy, and you'll never see video of him talking. All his accounts are gone. But with this Luigi guy, they're throwing out so much stuff. So much stuff. And then just before we started recording, while in custody, being taken in to his trial, he shouted out, like, this is an insult to the American people's intelligence. They know what's going on. It's like, whoa, we're getting way more. Like, there's a definite difference, wouldn't you say, between the typical three photos? Like, Thomas Matthew Crooks, we saw him in the BlackRock ad. And he had this crazy look, too. The Habsburg jaw. Yes. That's what he had to me. And that's the thing from elite inbreeding. So is he the product of, like, some Rockefeller fucking the maid? And then they're just like, well, we'll use this kid for something. It's weird. But he had the Habsburg jaw and just the coverage and the amount of material about a person we see. It's different in this Luigi case. Yeah. Well, he also looked like he had cleft palate, too. You know, he had the scar on his upper lip. Yeah. Crooks, for sure. Well, it could just be that that was a managed operation and this thing with Luigi Mangione is something entirely different. Again, I don't like to start weighing in on these things until all the evidence is in. This is why I'm always sort of late with a lot of these stories, because I'm always waiting. And first of all, I want to be comprehensive, but I also don't want to jump to stupid conclusions because that really hurts your credibility. And when it comes to the kind of work I do, it's like, at the end of the day, my credibility is all I really have. So I'm waiting to see what happens. It could just be what it's presented as, just this guy who is pissed off at the insurance companies, which millions and millions of people are increasingly, and decided to take it into his own hands. I kind of wonder how he was able to be in that right place and know that guy was going to be there at that particular time. I mean, there's a lot of sort of logistical questions that are raised by the details of that killing. Well, right. And in the footage, the only part of the guy's face you can see is his eyes and eyebrows. And this Luigi guy has pretty prominent eyebrows, does not look like the same guy. There's aspects of the book bag that look different. Of course, lighting and different angles, things can look different. And the Monopoly money, yeah. So we've been lied to so many times that for me to take a story at face value, it's got to be pretty damn neat and tidy. And this is anything but neat and tidy. You should never take any of these stories at face value. No, but even just to entertain the face value, this isn't some kind of weird op. It needs to be pretty explanatory, whereas this is so full of holes. I mean, I have to default to, we're being played here. The 286 thing, the numerology you mentioned, I mean, it's a little weird. You got to be a nerd to really pick up on it. But his Twitter banner was a Pokemon named Reloom. And all the Pokemon are in the Pokedex under a number. That number is 286. He's from Townsend, Maryland. Zip code 21286. His cousin Nino is the Maryland state delegate and follows exactly 286 people on Twitter. He was detained 286 miles from the scene of the shooting. The receipt for his McDonald's coffee after tax is 286. Yes, and those are kind of hard things to orchestrate. Your zip code. I mean, did he move to that town just because it had that zip code? You know, you kind of have to wonder, this is why I'm trying to tell people. It's like, that could all just be this whole process of entering into the synchromistic reality. I really want people to understand that this is very real and it's something that I've been looking at for a long time. I just need more information before I can really make a sound judgment on what is exactly going on as far as we can tell from the information we have. But all those kind of little numerological things could just be overspray from somebody poking a hole in the space-time fabric. For real. I agree. I agree. And a phrase I used with you many moons ago that people still bring up to me when I do a rare appearance where I'm talking to people is, the details are too precise for human hands. And so then you jump to, well, is it the MK Ultra Terrestrials? Is there some demonic, arconic entity pulling the strings of events? And then you go up a layer from that. You know, I interviewed Jake Coetzee this year, largely because I was so jazzed up on him from reading the Synchromistic Handbook. I had to talk to the OG, the term coiner himself. And it was a little disappointing because I respect the guy's work and he's done so many great things. And like the early work he did was very much like the Sorcerarchy Cabal is doing this. And here are all the details about 9-11 that make it a ritual. And then he kind of came out the other side and was like, well, I think we're all just part of the one consciousness, the God consciousness. And it's just picking up on the details of the God consciousness, the way it puts things together. Like there's a gravity, a force that moves events and names and things into a synchromystic pattern. And so it's not exactly the sexiest, most provocative conclusion, but it might be the right one. And when you look at it from that perspective, these number codes and stuff, well, I mean, maybe God's imagination is just running on fumes. I think he's telling half the story. I think definitely what he's talking about is true for sure. This is why I'm talking about the synchromystic reality, but it's only half the story. When you see stuff that just gets so crazy and weird and overwhelming and unlikely, that is probably not being orchestrated. And the thing with sympathetic magic is that you want to just keep hitting the same nails on the head over and over again. And not in the kind of way that we see the 286. I'm just talking like where it's clearly being somebody is doing something. Okay. Somebody is actually doing something that is happening. I don't think this guy went into McDonald's and said, well, if I buy this cup of coffee with tax, it's going to come out to 286. Who thinks like that? You know, that doesn't make any sense to me. But again, we have to wait until more information comes in, bearing in mind that we have two realities. So like I said, I appreciate what Jake's saying. I respect what he's saying. But to me, it's only half the story. And you have to take the other half into account. A problem that I have with a lot of older school, new age people is that they don't want to accept the reality of evil. They don't want to accept that there could be evil in the world and that people are doing things for evil reasons. It's all on the spectrum of experience, man. Yeah. It's some touchy feely. Oh, they're just alienated and they're separated from God and everything. It's just like, no, they like evil. Evil makes them feel good. They get power from it. They commit evil acts because they enjoy it. It's hard to accept. And you have to just sort of move past this simplistic kind of reductive thinking. You have to get all the horses moving at once because this is the reality that we're dealing with. We're dealing with a very complex reality. And if we're going to not lose our minds, frankly, we need to sort it all out. Again, that's one of the reasons why I did the synchronistic handbook is that I want people to be able to, when they see something like that, is this synchronicity or is this ritual? And you have to use a lot of instinct, quite frankly, and discernment to try and separate the two. Yes, and in this first hour, I want to try to fit in some Diddy stuff. So you did the Diddy star map and you looked at the constellations along the celestial plane and it's kind of crazy. Diddy's 55th birthday was the day before the election and he's a Scorpio. So we already talked about how it's related, but also everyone was sharing that rock the vote, him and Hillary Clinton photo. It's like clearly he's been involved in elections and drumming up support for voting. But 55th birthday, day before the election, Scorpio. Jennifer Lopez, as you say, is Juniper Lupus, the wolf. The constellation right next to Scorpius. Then Clive Davis is Ophiuchus, the serpent holder. And I don't exactly remember why, although he's held a few serpents, as you say. Ophiuchus is at Galactic Center. Ophiuchus is kind of like the big exalted figure of the heavens being at Galactic Center. And that's why he was so important to all these different mythologies, particularly in the Bible, because Ophiuchus is Jacob and he's also Moses. Moses is the prince, Perseus, and then you'll see this when I break this all down at some point, but he also becomes Ophiuchus. Ophiuchus was very important to these ancient traditions, because where he was, he was right there at Galactic Center. And he's the snake handler, right? But he's also, you know, he's treading on the snakes and the scorpions, just like we see in the Bible, in the Gospels. Right. And you say treading, and that's because in the sky, Scorpius is right under the feet of Ophiuchus, which is very symbolic of the Clive Davis-Diddy mentorship relationship. It's right there in the stars. So it's like, it would always be in the stars if it wasn't a cultural event, but is it amplified because it is a cultural event? It's so strange. We're going to reach a point, Greg, where it's going to be very hard to separate because these kind of things are going to accelerate. I don't think this is all orchestrated. I don't think, well, let's hook Diddy up because he's a Scorpio. Let's hook him up with Jennifer Lopez because she's Lupus the Wolf. And then let's hook him up with Justin Bieber because that's symbolized by Antinu, a.k.a. Ganymede. I don't think there's a kind of far-reaching orchestration with situations like this, because this is a man's career in his life. This isn't the Super Bowl. This isn't a space launch. This is somebody's life. And when you see these kind of macro alignments playing out in the stars, you're dealing with something else. And this gets more into Jake's territory, what he's talking about. You have to realize that there's more than one explanation for all these correspondences. And to be quite frank, I think people are very uncomfortable with the explanation that some of these things are being orchestrated by forces beyond our control because that scares them. And it is scary. You know, it scares people. Yeah. Well, when I just interviewed Michael Hoffman, he was very critical of the conspiracy community for getting a charge out of all these little connections. You know, he co-wrote King Killed 33 with James Shelby Downard, was his mentor or mentee of Downard for 17 years or so. And he's trying to carry on the torch, but he gets very critical because he's like, I want something to be done about this. I don't want just a bunch of conspiracy dudes getting little boners over the next connection. But, you know, that's kind of what got me into this stuff, admittedly. And I'd like to see something done, too. But then it's like you ask him what he wants done and he goes, we'll bring him to justice. It's like, well, don't you think you compromise the justice system before you start doing all these mass rituals? Our hands are tied. So at least let's look at the details. Well, see, the kind of change that he's talking about doesn't come with people coming to justice. It comes with a very long and methodical process where people are turned on to these kind of situations. People start to realize that people are carrying out these rituals often for nefarious purposes. More people realize that than any time in my life. I mean, maybe not in the most sophisticated way, but at least they're starting to realize. This is one of the reasons why, you know, Q is Q, but at least they've got people starting to think about how symbolism is used. There's a weapon. I agree. You know, I would differ with most of the interpretations that were made, but at least it gets people starting to think that there's something else going on. They're not just sitting there like zombies watching Fox or MSNBC or whatever and saying, oh, this is how the world really is. You know, they're not looking past the veneer. A step in the right direction. But here's the other thing, too. So I always wondered, like, why everybody in the media got so freaked out about Q. Because really what Q mostly was, I mean, most of the people into Q were like middle-aged women. I don't know about that. I didn't think so either, but there was actually a study done on it. Okay. Because I thought it was a lot of 20-something Andrew Tate fans. It is, too. But, you know, are we lumping everything in with Q? I'm talking about Q and on, you know, the drops and everything. I mean, I remember when that stuff was big before Twitter banned all those people. I don't know if they're all on Gab or on Truth Social or anything, but a lot of them were women. But anyhow, the point being is that they're always making claims in the media that I never saw in the Q material. I always thought the Q material was, like, really bland and innocuous. But they were really upset about this whole idea of these, like, sex trafficking cults. And the media was very upset about that. Well, now we realize that they were upset about it for a reason. You know? It's like, when we talked maybe five, seven, eight years ago, whatever, we didn't have the whole situation with Epstein really coming to light. We knew about it, and there would have been court cases, but we didn't know the full extent of it. Because after he was convicted, he just went back to business as usual. We had the whole Me Too thing. You know, Me Too is very problematic because it was an agenda that had to do with getting rid of people who were Deadwood in Hollywood. But we also had NXIVM, and now we have Diddy, and there was things in between, I'm sure, that I'm forgetting at the moment. But we saw that, yeah, there are these very cultic kind of organizations or associations that prey on children or prey on women. There's some nefarious activity going on that has a cultic, ritualistic aspect to it. And now we're finding out all the stuff, you know, with Jay-Z, and Jay-Z somehow was tight with Marina Abramovich. And Marina Abramovich is just, you know, do you remember, like, Microsoft did an ad with her, and then they pulled it, like, right away when everybody just said, this is, what the hell's going on here? You know what I mean? Well, right, but he does the do what thou wilt. He wears a lot of that shit. And there's Rockefeller Records. I mean... Yes. But then he was getting everybody else into it, too. It's like he was almost sort of like a change agent, sort of like a wolf set amongst the sheep. Because, you know, remember people like Rihanna started doing this, and of course, Beyoncé started doing all this kind of weird, ritualistic stuff. It was very hot for a while. I think it's all sort of played out now. And a lot of those acts, you know, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Beyoncé, I mean, their stars are waning, let's just say, to put it nicely. So all this kind of stuff that we had heard about, you know, when we had Pizzagate and the initial Q drops in 2018 and everything, all of a sudden, yeah, maybe it's not that outrageous, you know? Because look at all the high-placed celebrities that were involved in these white parties with Diddy. And now we start to find out what happened with those parties, you know? And all of a sudden, Ellen DeGeneres gets out of Dodge. You know, she was super tight with Diddy. What's that all about? Right, and there's that picture of her wearing the same hoodie as Diddy. And the hoodie is white with a red, kind of bloody child drawing on it. And it's like, why are their styles even somewhat similar? And I believe Tom Hanks also now lives overseas. So it's the Polanski pipeline. You know, you get caught for your crimes against children and you go overseas. See, I think the whole Diddy thing has the potential to be a much bigger controversy than Epstein. So Epstein, you know, there are a lot of politicians involved and a lot of sort of business people and some scientists and everything. And people just go, does anybody care about Marvin Minsky? You know what I mean? I mean, seriously, I mean, when you see some of the names that were involved with Epstein, it's just like, okay, whatever. Most people aren't going to respond to that. But if you start talking about Katy Perry and Lady Gaga and Beyonce and Ellen DeGeneres, you know, all these people who were superstars during the Obama years, certainly. That gets people's attention. You know what I mean? And then all these, you know, the whole thing with Justin Bieber and then the thing with Aaron Carter. You know, did he seem to like him young and blonde? And that's really kind of disturbing. And Clive Davis, 20 years ago, 10 years ago, five years ago, was untouchable. I mean, he was seen as like this pot of familias. He was seen as kind of like a godlike figure. And now we realize that he wasn't. He was just as much of a scumbag as all the rest of them. Right. And it kind of goes hand in hand with what you've been saying about Hollywood for a long time. Like the money's dried up and it's like, what keeps your secrets hidden is money. I just want to build on that for a moment because money is nebulous. Well, what does money do? It hires lawyers. It hires people like Anthony Pelicano. It hires, quite frankly, hit men. And when you have that kind of money floating around, free money floating around, you can make all these scandals go away. You have lawyers, you have private investigators, you have all these kind of people who are going to put all these pressure on all these people, accusing people like Diddy of these crimes. When that money dries up, all of a sudden you can't pay those people. See, I think the Diddy thing is almost like the tip of the iceberg. I think there's going to be something else coming down the pike that's going to be even worse. Yeah. I think it's Ellen and Oprah. They're the big dogs that need to get taken down. Well, we know about Oprah. We know that she was like that John of God guy in Brazil. I mean, that guy was evil. I mean, he made Jim Jones look like Mr. Rogers. You know what I'm saying? So there's a lot of secrets that are waiting to be told. And again, I think this Diddy thing is not only not going away, but it's going to get crazy worse. And I think it's going to lead to an even bigger situation. And it could well be that maybe they're just shutting down shop and they don't have the money to make the stuff go away. Or maybe they just don't care anymore. Maybe it's just like, hey, you're on your own. You know, you're no good to us. I mean, when's the last time Diddy had a hit? You know, when's the last time any of his artists had a hit? But the entire music industry doesn't work the way it did 20 years ago. Right. Same with movies. Like people are being entertained by very cheap entertainment, podcasts, TikTok, YouTube. That's a problem for people who make their projects with $100 million budgets. Like you say, it's like an also apocalypse, you know, as we always drive home is a revealing. It's a collapse, but a revealing. And it's kind of hand in hand. Disclosure. Sure. Yeah. Not the disclosure people thought they were going to get. But it is a form. Oh, God. Yeah. We should do a whole show on that whole situation because that's just an endless cringe fest. So just getting back to my point here. So eight years ago now, right? 2016, when we started hearing stuff about Pizzagate and Q, everybody just thought, oh, this is insane. You know, these celebrities, they're not like that. They're wonderful people. They're just like we see them on The View. They're all sweet and gentle and they're all benevolent. They all donate all this money to charities and stuff. The charity is another situation because the ones that aren't just flat-out tax havens are sex trafficking operations that we're learning more and more about. So we are in this transitional period, let's just say. But I think a lot of secrets are going to start coming out of the woodwork. And it's going to change the way people look at power. It's going to change the way people look at entertainment. It's going to just change the way people regard their so-called leaders. And who is going to exploit that? I mean, you know, our friend Gordon has always said that he believes that Trump had this huge control file on everybody. Those are the files that he took down to Mar-a-Lago with him, which is control files. And they wanted to get those back. Like, you know, so whatever you would say about Trump, he just got elected again. You can't argue with that, you know? So it's almost like, yeah, I mean, all the cards are on the table. I mean, who knows what's going on? Why not? What was Rogan saying? You know, it's just like, Pizzagate, you know, Flat Earth, whatever, you know, have a party, go to town. Because we're just learning all these things that we thought would be impossible and outrageous are actually true. So we are in uncharted waters. It's true. It's like, before you call bullshit on the next thing, why don't you just think about it for a minute? Because you don't want to get stuck in the trap of the past where you said there's no way this is true. And then, oh, it is. Well, but at the same point, the opposite is also true. You have to be discerning. And I tell this to people all the time who write me or whatever, and they're like, well, I think it's this. And it's like, okay, prove it. Make the case. Make the case. I'll listen to anybody's theory. I just need evidence. Yeah, I agree. I agree. So I want to switch gears and talk a little bit about the Sibylian Age. So in your Astro Gnosis presentation, you talked about us living in such an age. And now we all know about the legendary Elizabeth Frazier work you've done. But elaborate on this being a Sibylian Age and the history of the Sibyls that people might not be aware of because it goes a little deeper than even I realized. Oh, it really does. And one thing that I think people don't realize is that everybody took Sibyls seriously. Pagans, Jews, Christians. The Jews wrote their own Sibylian books. And then the Christians took the Jews' Sibylian books and then rewrote them to fit their religion. And then this is all built on these Sibylian texts that were lost, these Roman Sibylian texts that were lost. So this is a whole tradition. And I'll tell you the thing that really blew my mind and the thing that really just opened everything up for me. You didn't have Eamon Hillman on your show, right? I did have Eamon Hillman on my show. It was one of the most controversial shows I've ever done. I had a slew of cancellations after that and a lot of bad feedback. I understand that, unfortunately. I mean, I had him on a group chat with my upper tier patrons and I really enjoyed it. But I can understand why a lot of people would have a problem with him and his work. But he said something that was fact that I went and looked up. He said that the ancient pagans called Christians Sibylists. Now, this is in the Catholic Encyclopedia. So this isn't something that he just is reading from some obscure text. You know, unfortunately, like some of the other claims that he's made, I'm not saying they're not true. I'm just saying that I haven't been able to find the corroboration for some of these claims. But this one was dead on. So the Sibylists were basically very highly honored people, but they were very strange women who lived in caves and basically sung these weird poem songs in a weird language that had to be interpreted by the priests. Because it was basically considered glossolalia or incoherent speech, let's just say. These prophetesses, let's just call them, were so common and so widespread and so widely respected throughout the ancient world. But with the rise of, you know, Christianity and monotheism, Islam and so on, they sort of got shunted aside. But I would argue that the tradition sort of stayed alive when you'd have all these mediums and so on. And people like Baba Yaga, is that her name? The blind woman, I think she's Hungarian, who's made all these predictions and so on. Is Baba Yaga the witch? I'm not sure. But this tradition is, you know, you can see it in Catholic neighborhoods. I mean, I grew up when there was still sort of the old vestige of Catholic Europe. And all the women would go to psychics and would go to these fortune tellers and so on. It was very, very popular. And it was very well accepted. Some of these women would be at mass every day. And then they'd go to see these psychics to, you know, sort of get whatever information they felt they couldn't get out of the church. So these sybils and oracles, prophetesses were just basically very widespread. And it was seen that women had a special gift to this, but also young girls. It started off that a lot of these oracles were teenage girls, but there were some incidences, let's just say, with powerful men visiting these oracles and maybe taking advantage of these young women that they replaced them with matrons, women in their 50s, well-respected women in their 50s. So there's this whole tradition, again, and the worship, I guess you would say, of the sybils. I mean, it really is. It is a kind of worship or veneration, I think is a better word, was revived during the Renaissance. And we saw people, you know, Leonardo did a number of paintings of the different sybils and so on. And it was, you know, became very popular again. And after that, I think you could almost argue that people like Madame Lovatsky and Annie Passant and Alice Bailey, you know, these types of women, these charismatic and particularly in theosophical and neo-theosophical movements sort of became like neo-sybils. Then it became sort of popularized in the 60s. This is probably way before most of your listeners' time, but there's a woman named Jean Dixon who had claimed to predict John F. Kennedy's assassination. And the prediction was very vague, but she wrote it for a long time. You know, she was seen as like the celebrity psychic. And then later on, there were women like Sylvia Brown and the Long Island medium. They're all sybils. They have these different names, but it's all the same role. It's like these women who are seen to have contact with forces, powerful otherworldly forces speaking through them, whether it's angels or gods or whomever. Okay. And it's never really gone away. It really hasn't. Like I said, it's taken all these different forms throughout history. But I would argue that since we are in this, at the very least, this massive transitional phase on so many different levels, we are in the middle of World War III. I mean, let's not sugarcoat it, that this impulse or this need sort of arises again. And what I talked about at Astronosis was how Philip K. Dick was obsessed with this. So he had this transformative experience that he called 2374, you know, with the pink beam and so on and the goldfish. You know, he really believed that the reborn Cumaean sybil, who he wrote about a lot, was behind it all. And everybody knows who I think the sybil is, and I've gone to great lengths to prove that, or at least to present my evidence for it. Proof, I guess, is a matter of opinion. Right. Well, for people listening who haven't seen that presentation, we have talked in the show before about Philip K. Dick's visionary experience, the spontaneous thing that happened. And I think any Dick fan knows about this thing that happened to him. And you talk about it being not a psychotic break, but a legitimate visionary experience. And he describes it cognitively, lucidly, rationally, like he unpacked it well. He was a writer. He knew how to find the right words to express this very bizarre thing. Well, he said he was listening to Strawberry Fields Forever, got up to go to the window, and then was hit by this strawberry pink ice cream color and had a download experience. Frasier means strawberry field in Irish. And then also Philip K. Dick used the term the trash stratum to describe the lowest base level of things. Of popular culture. Advertisements, junk novels, stuff like that, yeah. Exactly. And what embodies that of all the brands of the 90s? Fruitopia. Who did two Fruitopia ads? Liz Frazier's music. And then also she joined 1-0 Tricks for a song called Tales of the Trash Stratum. From the Trash Stratum, yeah. From the Trash Stratum. Trash Stratum is not a common term. No, it's pretty on the nose, isn't it? I mean, wow. Don't forget, 1-0 Tricks never produced the Super Bowl show with The Weeknd. So there's that also, that kind of tie in there. They did a Super Bowl show with The Weeknd? Well, 1-0 Tricks is a guy. I mean, it's just one musician. It's not a group. Okay. I never heard of him before. Apparently, a lot of people have. It's kind of like very edgy, weird, sort of electronic techno kind of stuff. But he's worked with The Weeknd, and he had actually produced that halftime show. And The Weeknd has said he is a Liz Frazier fan. Oh, absolutely. But I'll tell you something else. I don't know if I've told you this on this show, but on my original Frazier blog, I had actually shut it down because I started noticing this weird traffic that was coming from nowhere. Okay. I've heard you say this before. I knew the blog was down. The Deep Pearl Dive can't access it. But talk to us about this because, you know, I've been doing this over a decade. I don't know where any of my traffic comes from. I don't look. I don't even really know how to look. So here's the thing. I was keeping an eye on it because I was really paranoid at the time, and I wanted to know where everybody was coming from. I wanted to know who was joining up and who I was going to share information that, quite frankly, is information that I didn't want to be made public. So I was keeping an eye on it. Now, here's the thing. I had done a post on exactly what you just talked about, Philip K. Dick and Strawberry Fields Forever. Okay. I had done a post. This is in the early days. And this is the first time I had posted on that. A day and change later, Elon Musk has this weird, weird tweet about Strawberry Fields Forever. And he repeats it like two or three times. And the tweet didn't make any sense at all. But here's the thing. I mean, some of that traffic I was mentioning was coming from like, I had zoomed in like on Google Maps to see where is this, you know, from the GPS coordinates. It was basically a rock in the middle of the California desert. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, there was no habitations. There was no like trailer parks around. And I was just like, wow. Now, because here's the thing, you know, people go with this guy with this Elizabeth Frazier stuff again. Elon Musk's baby daddy a couple of years back was Grimes. And Grimes is a huge, huge Cocteau Twins fan. She had basically said that that was her big influence when she was getting started. So I was kind of thinking like, hmm, maybe Grimes sort of busted into my, or she got an account under an assumed name. Because I had been posting about them on the Secret Sun for a while. Every time they were at that Met Gala and so on. And so I was thinking, wow, did she get an account and like he was using some weird kind of VPN to make it look like it was coming from nowhere. And then he was taking a look and then he said, oh, I'm going to mess with this guy's head because that would be so on brand for Elon Musk. You know what I'm saying? That's the guy. I mean, we see him doing this kind of stuff all the time. Like he starts picking fights with like the most obscure people or teasing. Like you just think like, why is this guy, the richest man in the world, allegedly bothering with some account that has like 400 followers. So that was a weird experience. And I got really super, it wasn't just that though. I was getting traffic on this private blog from MGM security. And they weren't even trying to hide where they were coming from. And MGM security is definitely relevant because of the deaths of Jeff Buckley and Chris Cornell. Well, Chris Cornell was staying at an MGM hotel, but also Highway 91, Harvest Festival. The MGM owns all those hotels on that part of the strip. Mandalay Bay, Luxor, Las Vegas Village, all that stuff up and down that area. I mean, they have a security force that's like larger than some country's armies. And not only are they looking in at my blog, but they're not even trying to like cover their tracks. They wanted me to know that they were looking in at my blog. So that's when I shut it down originally. I reopened it about six months later. So I also just wanted to throw this out there. Sorry, but I mentioned the Chris Cornell, Jeff Buckley deaths. And we have talked about this in the past. It's one of the most popular interviews that I've done, but definitely that we've done together. But when revisiting this information, it just struck me as even crazier than I remember that Chris Cornell died at the Siren Hotel in the MGM Grand in Detroit, located at the end of Elizabeth Street, just a few miles from Frazier, Michigan. It was across the street, basically, from the Siren Hotel. He was at the MGM Grand at the end of Elizabeth Street. But it's all right there. It is all right there. And then, of course, Jeff Buckley, when he died, he was in the Wolf River next to the Memphis Pyramid near Frazier, Tennessee. So you got two deaths of people who knew each other, both dying near a Frazier, Michigan and a Frazier, Tennessee. Well, listen, welcome to my world. This stuff never ends. And you think, like, why is this tiny little Scottish lady so fascinating to these powers that be? Well, somehow she is being used as a Sybil. And it's a new kind of Sybil. It's not like some woman just spurting nonsense in a cave that the priests have to sort of interpret. It's something that is operating on a much grander scale and has been going on for over 40 years now. Now, I don't have an ending to the Siren Saga because it never ends. I have a theory of everything. I've come full circle. Now, the reason I came full circle, I was working on a Smiley Face Killer live stream. And I was like, wow, some of this sounds, it's just starting to sound a little bit too much like Jeff Buckley's death. Now, I've had people who've gone down to that exact spot where he allegedly drowned. And I say allegedly for a reason. And they said, it looks like just a little pond in a park or something. It's called a slack water channel. So there is no current. I think there's an undertow at the end of Mud Island. But everybody's looking at it and going, there's no current. There's no waves. Boats go by. There's no wakes. You know, this whole story that a big tugboat went by and created this huge wake, they don't allow tugboats in that channel. So there you go. When you start to look at the details, and I'm not the only one who noticed this. There are some Jeff Buckley sites that I've seen, like message boards and everything, where people are going, you know, the story of his death doesn't make any sense. The entire story just sounds off. And I don't know if that was in my mind subconsciously, but when I started doing the work on the smiley face thing, it just started to seem a little too familiar. And I did part of the presentation was like, was Jeff Buckley's smiley face? I don't think he was, but I think that there are some similarities there. One of them being that his body wasn't found for six days after he was reported missing. Now, this is why that bothers me. Not only is this a very small slack water channel, but again, a number of people have actually been there physically have told me this wasn't some raging torrent. You know what I mean? This wasn't some vast jetty or something. It was basically just a little slack water channel, which if you just want to picture it, just sort of picture like in a pond, like an artificial pond and a reflecting pool kind of thing in a public park. It's a hundred feet wide and several thousand feet long. And everyone is looking and going, how did he drown here? The other thing that bothers me is that 20 minutes after the call was made, SAR was in full force. Full force. I mean, they had helicopters, they had divers, they had heat seeking equipment. They were dredging it with nets. This is a little tiny little body of water with no current. And how couldn't they find him? The search went on all through that night and the next day and into the, I think, believe into Saturday because it was Thursday night, into Friday, into Saturday morning before it was called off. And then they don't find his body until six days later. And another thing that really bothered me is Kopp said, you know, when people drown and there's a whole thing like, oh, a lot of people have drowned there. That's not true. Only a few people have drowned there, most of whom are drunk. And they say when they find the bodies, it's usually right in the area where they went down because there's nothing to move their bodies. There's no current to bring them along. So how did he end up over 1,500 feet from where he drowned in this slack water channel with no current? So all these things really just started to bother me. In addition to the whole idea of the smiley face thing, and then I started looking at some of the lyrics he was writing for his last album. And all of a sudden, all the pieces fell into place. And I have a much different interpretation, let's just say, of what happened to Jeff Buckley. And I don't think it was suicide, and I don't think it was an accident. Let me back up a little bit with some details with Philip K. Dick. So this is a synchronicity for me, too, because when I left California, me and the old boys were trying to find a way to stay in touch. We decided to start a book club of fiction books, and when it was my pick, I picked Ubik because I hadn't read it. And I was like, well, you know, this is a good way to scratch off a book from my list and make you guys read something weird. My buddy picked Paranisi, which was, of course, central to our friend Recluse's presentation. So I'm watching these two presentations of two fictional books that I had just read. But okay, so Philip K. Dick believed that the god was Ubik. You know, it's a term meaning ubiquitous. So I always pronounce it wrong, but Ubik, ubiquitous, who had been pushed to the periphery by trashy TV commercials. Cocktail Twins, we did the Fruitopia thing. Well, Elizabeth Frazier goes on tour with Massive Attack. Massive Attack reissued one of their albums as a DNA spray paint can. Each can contained one million copies of the album encoded in the DNA. Liz sings three songs on that album. To quote Philip K. Dick, Ubik is trash containing an even lower order of trash. Ubik, the voice of God in a spray can. And Liz Frazier, we talked about all the different ways her voice is described as otherworldly. The voice of God, that term is used and supplied to her all the time. So you have a band doing something really bizarre, putting their album into DNA in a spray paint can. And then he has this book where that's the central motif. It's like, wow, that is really on the nose. Going from the trash stratum thing and the strawberry fields thing and then the spray can. It's like, wow, Philip K. Dick is definitely somewhat related. So we got to find some place to land on this. And if we come back to what the first hour was really about, this synchromistic tour of the weird, bizarre sinks and details of the year. It was a year dominated by politics. It was really hard to find things going on that weren't related to the election. I love the NASA example. Were there any things that we missed? Or is there anything you would say about the time going forward related to just decoding events? And what you've seen, the amount of events compared to previous years? I think we're kind of past, you know, I think this is part of the apocalyptic process. And again, I always have to be very clear because I use that term, you know, as disclosure, unveiling, revealing. There are all these things, I think, are all ultimately connected. And that, I think, is part of this process is us beginning to realize that things we thought were separate aren't. They're actually very closely linked. And all the things that I had in my notes, what do I have, you know, the Olympics and the Middle East situation and Ukraine and the election and the eclipse and Diddy and so on. There's all, they all tie together. I mean, just, you know, Diddy, who would think, you know, 30, 40 years ago that some rapper would have connections to the highest levels of political power in this country, right? I mean, people would think that would be ridiculous. They would just dismiss it out of hand. But things definitely changed when Obama came in. And all these people, Jay-Z and Diddy and Beyonce and so on, all of a sudden were being invited to the White House. They started becoming major players. Now, the fact that they're all tied in with sex trafficking, quite frankly, abuse and pedophilia and so on and so forth, what does that tell you about the system at large? I don't think it tells you anything good. But this is the world we live in, you know, and we're also living in a world where because we're so heavily mediated, because we're so heavily connected through social media and through the Internet and so on, that the lines of demarcation that we all had assumed that everything has its, you know, separate magisterium, you know, everything has its own place. We're really starting to realize that that isn't true. And how do we how do we deal with that? How do we process that? How do we accept that? At the same time, quite frankly, a lot of people are just going off the rails. All you have to do is just look on social media and people are just losing their shit left and right. So, no, it's very concerning to me. And in terms of weird syncs, I just wanted to throw this out, too. So I got on that thread of, like, reversing names, not even something I would normally do and not even probably the best way to research. But there's a weird connection where in 2018 there was this guy who was a male stripper, porn star, prostitute who took over the lobby of a Trump hotel in Miami with a gun and an American flag. I don't know if you remember this. Bigly. Yeah. So you can watch the police interrogation video online. It's 20 minutes or something. He goes on a big rant about Diddy parties and being used as a sex toy, basically, at these parties, being told to fuck this chick, that chick, while Diddy watches. And the guy's name is Jonathan Odie. And when you look up Odie backwards, spelled exactly the same, I-D-D-O, that person, Ido, was a biblical prophet. So here's a guy who comes out with a story before anyone thought it made any sense, this bizarre rant about Diddy parties. Now that's very easy to understand and to believe. Well, just think about how you would have been attacked. So say you did a show on the Diddy parties three, four years ago. Just think how you would have been attacked for that, you know, I mean, if it got out. I mean, if people at The Guardian or CNN or whatever sort of mainstream, you'd be like, oh, you know, irresponsible conspiracy theorists, you know, spreading vicious rumors about respected figures in entertainment. You know, you would have been called Pizzagate and Q and all the rest of these terms that you would have been called Alex Jones and everything. But now we know that it's not theory, it's fact. And like I said, I think we're just at the beginning of this process. And as I said before, when the money isn't there to keep the lid on, that's when the secrets come out. Yeah, I think that's a really great point. And it makes sense of why things get revealed in certain times and not others. But, man, this has been a real wild one. We didn't even talk about Dr. Peter Hotez saying he's got big picture stuff coming down the pike starting January 21st talking about viruses. I thought viruses were random things that just happened and had no political affiliations. But sure, you're pre-planning on Trump's inauguration the day after to start hitting him with stuff. So we might see another four years of he can't get anything done because constant bullshit showing up on his plate. I mean, we'll see. I do have a feeling it's going to be different this time. I really do. I think that something changed and I can't put my finger on it. But just the fact that, again, in 2016, at this time of year, you know, the sabotage, quote unquote, resistance program was in full swing. Right. Now the media talking heads who are the most aggressive are apologizing. Mika Brzezinski and Morning Joe are apologizing. And Whoopi and the View ladies are all like softening their tone. It's like, look, is he a fascist in the end of democracy or not? Because what you were saying before does not match your energy now. So I think their bosses told them, hey, stop railing on Trump or you're just going to lose your job. And so they had to find a way to backpedal. The thing that I'm afraid of, though, is that this has to do with the war. You know, that they they need an unchallenged commander in chief who the people who they want to fight, help fight these wars will support. You know, nobody was going to nobody was going to go to war. Nobody was going to sign up to fight a war for Kamala Harris. They just weren't. And if Trump says we got to do it, then God damn it. We got to do it. Yes, exactly. Exactly. But here's the other thing, too. One thing that I want to remind people. So we talked about these Hollywood scandals and so on. Trump had very little to no institutional support back in 2016. Now he's got a lot. I mean, he's got the richest man in the world who loves to write checks for everything he can possibly write. You know, smoothing the path that that is a big change. The one thing that I would always fall people for, you know, like Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. Well, he's just one person. You know, one person can't stand against an entire infrastructure of power. They always will slap you down, no matter how powerful you think you are. But when you have these major and some, quite frankly, some of these are very shadowy personages in your corner now, that goes a long way to shutting up all these people. And don't forget, the other big difference, too, is that all these media companies have been failing miserably for the past eight years. And that process has accelerated. You know, I always say that I'm glad Biden was put in. I don't want to say he went, he won, because I don't think he did win. I'm glad that he was put in because it helped accelerate this natural death of all these, you know, very corrupt and evil institutions, one of which is the news media. I mean, the news media has been toxic for a long time. Hollywood is another one. All the oxes that needed to be gored were gored under his supervision. So I'm very, I'm very happy. And I gotta, I gotta say, I just was always really amused. You know, I thought the past four years have been comedy gold, you know, in between Kamala and, and Biden. I mean, just being the dumbest, the most inarticulate people on the planet. It was, it was really entertaining. And then this freak show that he had running in and out of the White House was just, how could you not be entertained by it? It was, it was like a Fellini movie. Yeah, as an outsider watching it as a big theatrical show, it was quite good. So before I let you go, talk to us about some of the stuff you're going to be presenting at the Secret Son Institute going forward. Any projects really, but I think a lot of the topics you've disclosed are super interesting, including one about Tracy Twyman. Yeah, I'm going to be doing a thing on Tracy. And, you know, the difference between me and a lot of other people who have done things about her is that I knew her. You know, we were friends. So I'm going to be doing something about her. Next week, I'm going to be doing something sort of debunking the whole zeitgeist, you know, Jesus is Mithras, Jesus is Horus kind of stuff that I'm just so sick of seeing. You know, I, interestingly enough, I was friends with the person who was largely responsible for putting that stuff out there. This woman named Dorothy Murdoch, she passed away, I think, back in 2010 or so, 2011. She's been dead for a number of years. I mean, I really liked her and she was an excellent researcher, but she just had really, she just had some whacked sources and came to some weird conclusions. I don't have a problem with her as much as, you know, people like Bill Maher and Religious and, you know, this, this whole, all this zeitgeist nonsense. I mean, Horus did not have 12 apostles and he wasn't a miracle worker, you know, and they didn't have a ceremonial meal. I mean, all these kind of things are just from like dopey ass nonsense that like late 19th century British theosophists just invented out a whole cloth. So that stuff needs to be put to bed forever. And that's going to be the next big live stream. So right on. Well, what about books? Anything in the works that you mentioned? Yes. So, oh, first of all, I've got this. If anybody's interested in this, this is the Synchromistic Logbook. This is basically a diary with these forms so you can record your synchronicities. And it's also got, you know, instruction manual at the beginning. So this is a nice, I actually had originally intended to put this out at the same time as the handbook. I just had all these problems with how I wanted to format and so on. But I am working on this book now that's going to be sort of a history of 90s conspiracy theory through the lens of the X-Files. But I'm going to go really deep, very deep into the weeds on, you know, Watergate, Vietnam, JFK, MKUltra, the counterculture, all these kind of things that, you know, really informed that sort of almost reach their apotheosis in the X-Files. But, you know, it's kind of an X-Files book for people who aren't into the X-Files because it's going to go really deep into Waco and Ruby Ridge and all these kind of events that people might hear about now but aren't as familiar with. That book is going to be called XF Ultra. So I'm really excited about that. Man, super busy guy. And when it comes to your Patreon content at the Secret Sun Institute, you're churning out more stuff than almost anyone I know, always doing fun stuff, trying to make it more of a community, trying to make it more of a hang, watching movies together and parsing them in the way that only you can do. And it's great. So I encourage people to join the club. And you're one of my favorite people on this island earth. I'm glad we could do it again. Keep up the good work. And I already look forward to the next one. Right on. Wow. Wow. All right. That was wild. A pretty long THC. And I'm not sure how it will sound straight through because it is a bit disjointed. Chris and I recorded a two-plus-hour-long show. And then the second hour we recorded kind of got scrapped. Because the day after we recorded, Chris just started to find an insane number of syncs between the original Song to the Siren material and this United Healthcare shooting story. And you might think, well, why would that be? How could those stories be related at all? But when the Sybil dusts off her old classic, Song to the Siren, who knows what can happen? Because it's actually pretty rare. She put it on her tour set list this year after not singing it publicly for 12 years, and then 17 years before that, and then 12 years before that. So it's a rare thing to do, and it seems like she knows it has a power to it. And it was bound to weave the synchronicities through other major events and stitch them together with potent pop culture because nothing is real anymore. And performances of this song rip holes in the fabric of reality and might even relate to a super being whose language is reorganizing reality in these sorts of ways. And I don't really know what to do about it, but the first part of the original Plus show, I believe, is going to be shoehorned into the free first hour. So you'll get a longer hour, but it is going to contain some of the history of the Sybils and how they were always considered very important and held in high regard. It goes a lot deeper than the Oracle of Delphi. But I think a foundational premise to this is that Sybils and Oracles are always with us if we can find them and identify them. And then watch how reality is drawn in around their sing-chanting performances. But as I said to Chris, the Song to the Siren episode we did is really considered a classic. I still get messages about how impactful that one is, even from people just combing through the archives who recently discovered this show. And again, why is that? Maybe there's something there where we got a little of that magnetic residue from just the overall vortex that is the modern Sybil. But as for the first hour today, it was good to go over the year and we covered a pretty complex tapestry of symbolism and events in a methodical way that I hope resonates with people. And then in the Plus show, this is something we recorded the following day, almost full show length in and of itself. It really became a part two to that first episode with the Song of the Siren. And I struggle to understand how the syncs really can end up being this layered. And it's not even to say that the shooting story should be taken at face value or that Luigi even did it. But this is the cultural narrative of the event, and it's full of weird references to Sirens, Mermaids, Twins, Buckley, the name Brian Thompson, X-Files, and even King of the Hill. And the one Mortal Kombat character who uses her otherworldly shriek as a weapon. Very wild examples of something truly bizarre. So, yes, I am saying this to pitch it to free listeners that this is not one to miss if you liked that original Song to the Siren episode. But also to explain to Plus members why it's a little disjointed. I'm trying to weave together recordings taken over two different days. Now, the original second hour we recorded, which went kind of way too deep into some of Chris's investigations of the Sibyl's background and biography. Well, yeah, it got into the weeds, and I just wasn't sure the THC listeners would have enough context for it. But Chris is going to give it to his members at the Secret Sun Institute because they're far more dedicated and knowledgeable of the Liz Frazier work overall. So it's not completely gone. But Chris has been so good to me and our audience that it's only right that it finds a home there. So, yeah, it was nice to do a synchromistic year in review, though the year was dominated by the election cycle. And just when a lot of people thought they were done hearing about it, they heard about it some more. But we try to keep it weird, and there was a lot of things I wanted to make sure we got on the THC record. The Kamala Harris-Andromeda-Constellation thing will never sit right with me. I know that. We've talked about Biden's sons, Hunter and Bo. That's very constellationally symbolic. But there's nothing like the Kamala Harris thing, and it's just weird. I hope you enjoyed it. I certainly worked harder on this episode than most, and it's hard to know beginning to end how the finished product will sound. But I just got to let this peacock fly, you know? But Chris is up there on the THC Mount Rushmore, right along with Joseph Farrell, Gordon White, and, man, I don't know. Who still checks in with us regularly and has for years? Maybe we say Analog is the newest edition? I would actually be curious to know who has the most THC appearances when you get past those big three. It could have been Tracy Twyman or even Jim Mars if they were still around. Sophia Smallstorm might be a female contender. Michael Wan, of course, would be in the conversation. Hard to say, really. I'm sure I'm missing plenty of people that deserve a mention, but the roster goes deep. So I hope you had a good time with this one. The Philip K. Dick connections were very wild, too, and we didn't even talk about the Jesus fish on the chain, which pops up in a Cocteau Twins music video because it was kind of too visual. And we didn't even talk about Minority Report, which was made from a Philip K. Dick story and has other connections. And that's kind of the material we cut out. But people aware of Chris's deeper work will immediately know what I mean there. So there you have it. Not everyone's into the synchromistic stuff, but it is a real highlight for me. If it hasn't been obvious by my attempts to get all the greats on THC this year. But let's move it along. In higher side news, the last episode with Joseph Farrell, the Demon in the Acre add-on, has clocked in on the rating scale as a 4.9. Love to see it. Another 4.9. I think we've only had two ever be that high. And the other was Dr. Heather Lynn, also not too far back. And I am really proud of my output lately. I think you'd have to go back quite far to find a show that I thought wasn't at least a solid B+. And as always, obviously my hope is that people enjoy what they hear enough to convert over 2-plus members and get twice as much of it. And we can keep this ship afloat on my own terms without getting other revenue streams involved. But I can only make the best show I can make and then hope for the best. And a huge thank you to everyone who stays committed when there's just so much content out there these days. I know that. Way more than when I started. So it does mean a lot. And we're up against a pretty big headwind, you know? I don't like talking about shadow banning and all that sort of stuff. You almost never hear me waste my breath on that. But it is what it is. You can just look at my YouTube channel or a few other suspicious things that really do show that the Higher Side Chats is, let's just say, algorithmically challenged. And this show only works on true word of mouth. So it's super meaningful when people share their favorite episodes or recommend this show to their friends because it just doesn't happen on its own within the new framework of algorithmic everything. Also, we have the clips. You can find a ton of video clips on the social media pages, not just highlights from the first hour, but a ton of plus show content as well. So check that out if you want a little peek behind the plus curtain. But all right, that said, let's move on to the calendar. December 19th, Coral Tree in L.A. December 20th, a meetup at the Imperial in Goleta, California. December 21st, Bar None in Denver, Colorado. January 11th, Ola Brew in Hawaii. Also January 11th, Raleigh, North Carolina, the Raleigh Brewing Company. And also January 11th, Hops on Tap in Portland, Oregon. And also January 11th. Porsche's Cafe in Columbus, Ohio. Love it. I didn't expect much in December. It is the holidays, but January 11th seems to be a big day for us. And I hope if you're listening and feel the need for more local connections, you make an event and take the chance. Life is too short to hem and haw and not take chances to make it more interesting. Also hop in the calendar for more details or to RSVP. All right, a couple more episodes to go before we truly close out the year. But I consider this one to be probably the capstone. I mean, Chris and Joseph Farrell back to back. How did I even get so lucky? But thanks for listening. Oh, and just another quick word about the AI songs. I think more people are coming around to being in the pro column than the con column. But I still see and get comments about how lifeless and bland they are, devoid of the true art of human beings. And then those people didn't even notice that two recent songs were from human beings. And I just forgot to mention it. So I think a lot of folks out there have just made up their mind and that's fine. But honestly, I love the Demon in the Acre song that I quasi made. I listened to it on repeat. It's amazing to me. If you didn't hear the end of the Joseph Farrell show, you should have. But fun story, when I first learned about these tools, I made songs for Gordon and Chris. My brain just needed some lyrical content to play with. So I made a RuneSoup song that you heard in the last Gordon episode. And I made a Secret Son song. These were my first two attempts, really, to play around with it. And it's fun to just drop a song on someone and say, wow, I heard this and it's oddly specific. And then just imagine their reaction as they're hearing more and more specific lyrics so randomly. Because the tools are very new. Not a lot of people even know to expect such a thing. I couldn't do this in two years. That's a whole other thing. When my kids grow up, the whole idea of making a mixtape for some crush, that's gone. It's going to be mixtapes full of songs you specifically wrote about a person. A lot of cringe content is going to come out of freshman in high school, I'm sure. It's going to get weird out there. But I'm going to dust off this Chris Knowles one for you guys, even though I didn't think it'd ever even be public. I could probably do it a lot. I know I could do it better if I was doing it today. But I'm going to save myself some time and give you this context for how and why it was made. It wasn't supposed to be public, like I said. But I do find some of it to be catchy. And I think some of the words I wrote are fun. All right? All right. And just remember, if you want another hour, even after this, of me and Chris talking, well, go over there to the Secret Sun Institute and dip into what he's doing. He's given us so much and deserves all the THC love he can get, too. Enjoy the holidays. Enjoy your families. Recalibrate your priorities. Maximize your happiness. And I'll see you next time. I've done my part. Your move. Sibylines, soothsayers, pop culture, creators, and agents of the Western apocalyptic age. Your fucking move. Chris Knoll says AI is useless. He thinks that it's all hype. But has he tried to make a song from whatever he can type? Just a parlor trick. But life is just a parlor. And with every passing moment, we're pushing this shit farther. The Secret Sun, so fun, decoding all the things. The Secret Sun, second to none, a chorus of computer sings. The Secret Sun, so fun, decoding all the things. The Se- A chorus of computer sings. The Secret Sun is just a place to learn. It's a healthy, happy place to watch the world drive us through. Drive us through.