Chris Knowles | Lucifer’s Technologies, Demon Alchemy, & The Roswell-crucians

the planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan there's clearly maybe something there beyond the realm of man and until we've thoroughly tested every last close-chested view i find the more we think we know the less we really do i chat show greg carl moving on up higher side chatters from the sunshine state i'm greg carlwood and according to the most oldest writings and stories that humanity has it was once widely known and commonly accepted that we have some other type of beings sharing space with this material matrix and even maybe more than one call them gods angels demons spirit guides extended masters ultra terrestrials comic tricksters multi-dimensional plasma beings or simply the entities but man has been trying hard to make sense of all these encounters maybe as far back as man's be able to been able to make sense of anything and from the accounts of ancient cultures and countless biblical examples to occult workings and shamanic trance states these spontaneous instances of bizarre interactions usually involve the themes of rulership prophetic messages information downloads and oftentimes exchanges or gifts of some kind of out-of-place magical object many researchers even say crop circles are designs or blueprints for exotic energy systems we've yet to crack or at least have yet to be released openly but in 1947 something changed somehow we lost all prior context for these encounters and the people were convinced by military intelligence and hollywood social engineers that alien beings from a foreign planet crash landed in the new mexico desert and the story was intentionally leaked and the reverse engineering of this so-called spaceship has remained the limited hangout alternative explanation ever since right on up to today military whistleblowers are keen to send stories of this crash or that one telling us full-blown disclosure is right around the corner but according to today's returning guest chris knowles the whole disclosure movement is a distraction and a distortion to obscure the true triggers for encounters that conform more to the well-established historical context ritual and occult workings thc listeners know chris well as the man behind the secret sun blog and now the secret sun institute of advanced synchromysticism and its substat companion he's also the author of many great books including our gods wear spandex the secret history of comic book heroes the synchromystic handbook and his novel he will live up in the sky in thc's 15 years i believe this makes the 15th time we've had him here and it's an honor to break in the new video format with the man who knows the plan the gen x high strangeness researcher parapolitical pattern recognizer and professor of the secret sun institute of advanced synchromysticism chris my man welcome back great to be here as always yes so the audience knows we've talked about your lucifer's technology series before but it's one of my favorites and it started almost a decade ago in 2016 since then a lot of things have happened that support the idea rather than take away from it but if i was to boil it down to three major points just to catch everybody up technology is a trojan horse or a faustian bargain with some sort of non-human entity sometimes given through a cult or ritual contact means events like roswell and the giant leaps in technology need to be re-examined within that context and the modern eth ufo narrative was seeded as a cover story for something much more occulti that happened in the 1940s would you amend any of that as an explanation of the overall premise that's pretty strong it's pretty good summation i thought about this in advance believe it or not so it's pretty good it's pretty good i like it so let's fold in a couple of recent things that we didn't have to examine in 26 2016 most recently katy perry's space flight if you want to call it that from blue origins new shepherd you wrote about this in a title in a titled post mystery babylon the kate rides lucifer's love rocket tell us about this when you decode this the way you've just decoded other things what do you see in this space flight as they say well it's not even near space you know they're just basically scraping the lower end of the thermosphere so it's basically upper atmosphere and they're not going anywhere near space they never have it's really just a big ego trip ritual for for jeff bezos um you know the obvious phallic rockets that they use that everybody uh just like what are they doing what is that all about um it's it's all ritual when i saw the most recent emanation of this with katy perry and all the rest of them is i saw as a as a ritual to ishtar and i don't think that's too big a stretch because if you look at the mission patch they have the eight-pointed star of ishtar and of course the name new shepherd itself corresponds with tammuz aka damuzi the shepherd boy lover of ishtar aka anana aka out of gardus aka whatever you want to call her so it just seemed clear to me by the mission patch because everybody was sort of looking at and going oh that kind of looks like baphomet upside down right and i was looking at it and going well actually that looks like a uterus looks like a stylized uterus in the same way that virgin's ridiculous space plane looks like a uterus and the interesting thing about that is like why did they have that design on that patch because the rocket they sent up you know the dick rocket doesn't look anything like what they put on the patch so what's the connection there so it was clear to me that it was all about this uterus uterine sacrifice to to the goddess ishtar who is the god of the sky goddess of the sky don't forget i mean that's her one of her roles the sky and war i think this whole quote-unquote space race is no such thing i think it's really just clandestine missile testing and also ritual practice going back all the way to parsons you know who used to recite the hymn to pan before every rocket launch yeah and there's definitely some interesting details about that whole thing in the corpus of the lucifer's technology material you noted that this katy perry thing also happened the day after palm sunday which seems like a relevant detail they are always playing with these patches and revealing little things in there but what i thought was really kind of eye-opening was when you got into the logos for blue origin so the current logo is a feather which why you know maybe if you're talking about fallen angels a feather makes some sense and then the old logo this is where it gets weird twin turtles appealing to the heavens and the turtle is in the babylonian kundiru it's apparently sacred to enki enki was called the lord of the world and there's a winged hourglass on it it's a very layered and complex symbol compared to the blue feather but the lord of the world is a name for enki he had six helpers there's six ladies on this mission in the capsule i think you're definitely onto something like i said in the intro if the context is a cult rather than eth it all has to be folded in roswell has to be folded in all these events have to be folded in so yeah when you look at the details of this thing it is stranger than it appears for sure well that blue origin path i mean what does it have to do with spaceflight at all i mean the whole iconography of it just has no connection to shooting for the stars and so on i mean listen i'm old all right i'm an old gen xer i i used to be a big space guy i used to be really into it and then i just realized that it was all ritual basically ritual and missile testing and propaganda for the whole idea of everlasting technological progress which we're now realizing is is a myth we're really coming up against the end of it no matter what they say with ai and all the rest of it i mean so little has actually changed because we don't have the control over atoms that we have over electrons and i think all these quote-unquote space programs um you know you make absolute almost trillionaires out of people like elon musk and jeff bezos and like what's the payback well they've got to perform the rituals you know i mean nasa is isn't very good at it anymore so you need uh some young technologically savvy upstarts to uh perform the the obligations to the sky gods and to most people that sounds absolutely insane until you really start to break down the symbolism and the timing you know you talked about the day after palm sunday musk has been doing stuff on the cross quarter days i've you know been blogging them on that um beltane was a big one so it's this whole process that really has nothing to do with space because none of these things are going anywhere near space you know i mean they're not they're not even getting up to where the uh you know we're supposed to believe the uh isis is and there's another name too right the international space station isis that they send the dragon up to so it's just totally revolution uh revelation 12 the whole thing yeah i mean the whole thing it's all it's all a big show and coming to that realization was very difficult for me you know because i like i said from a little being a little kid i was really into space i was into nasa my mother used to order me like pictures of like the apollo landings and stuff and got me actually got me an autograph of one of the quote-unquote apollo astronauts it was a real come down but once once you see it you can't unsee it you can't unsee just how fake it all is and let me throw in these two other little things i've mentioned them on the show before but these are two other recent disclosures that conform with your hypothesis that we didn't have in 2016 but i recently interviewed ryan bledsoe the son of chris bledsoe the experiencer who kind of got brought in to be studied by the secret space program and the invisible college folks and then he kind of went rogue he's like you know i don't like your narrative i'm gonna go with what my experiences say but when he was there talking to these guys this is what came out of an interview where ryan interviewed his dad but he said there he was consulting with them about what they're now calling plasmoids which are angelic beings they come out of the orbs when asked how the orbs would appear to astronauts bledsoe said they would appear outside the space shuttle look in the windows at them and sometimes they stand over the shuttle bay or the space station glowing sometimes there's a report of a half a dozen of them or 125 foot tall one with wings standing there and smiling at them all astronauts who go up past a certain point see these things that's the report from that basically chris is reporting what was shared with him when he was kind of palling around with these guys and then i sent you this in the dms but diana posulka had this to say about her contact in the space program tim taylor who was tyler in her book anonymously of course the internet sleuths figured it out well she says our space program today even has some really interesting rituals associated with it when it does certain launches at cape canaveral maybe not all of them but the ones that tyler was involved with they had images of roman gods and goddesses put on the rockets they would use latin on their mission patches they would also have specific rituals where they would do something involving u.s presidents they would position the president at a certain point where astronomical events would happen they would be like hey mr obama stand here and he would stand there with his wife and look in a certain direction it was part of the whole thing and there were photos tim has photos of all of this i know a ritual when i see them and he didn't even understand it so i noticed that they were using latin and then i noticed it wasn't medieval latin it was a particular form of latin it seems like it was roman theology so i would ask him why are you using the images of roman gods why are you putting them on your mission patches and also utilizing latin phrases from that time period i mean you're sending this up to space who up in space is going to read latin and his answer was our sponsors so crazy heavy stuff but both these things speak to the occult context rather than the eth hypothesis and so if we were going to talk about lucifer's technologies being an even wider scoped thing because roswell 1947 but the occult context for interactions with some beings goes back to the biblical times before even so what would you say might be the first example of technology as a trojan horse some might say agriculture i'm reading more stuff from people who say generally we're thought to be told that agriculture is this great advancement and it finally got us away from being hunter-gatherers but now some anthropologists are looking back and saying uh they had to drag people into agriculture a lot of people didn't want to be put up in this walled city and made to work the fields it wasn't a better life than the previous one what do you think in terms of early examples that would work with the lucifer's technology premise outside of computer technology i think writing is really the original trojan horse because that allowed people to recreate reality in their own image it gave the priests an opportunity to dictate reality to dictate the universe to dictate the nature of the universe to people who previously had just experienced it i think that could make sense for sure obviously writing sigils it's all kind of there people talk about circuit boards now looking like sigils you'll see all these memes where they place them side by side yeah you probably could take it back to writing you got the jordan maxwell guys who talk about spelling and all that word play that goes into things yeah i think you could make a good case that it is that you go back to john d's in it was a language he was told a language well maybe latin was an older language maybe there were original languages that were kind of delivered in the same sort of way well alan moore famously said that you know spelling was spellcraft and grammar was grimoire so that he believed and this sort of brought him into this whole chaos magic world that writing was a form of magic that fiction was a form of magic that you were basically recreating a world with just these marks on paper that we assume make these sounds or correspond to these sounds and then these sounds ergo correspond to ideas and concepts and events and names and all the rest of it but it's all invented it's all imaginary okay so our entire experience experience of the world is almost determined by this magic okay very ancient magic that we still use that we haven't really improved upon i would add i would also say we haven't even improved on the codex book you know the spine bound book uh you know we have ebooks and all the rest of it but for an experience you can't improve on the codex so i think that writing and spelling and gram grammar are by nature a trojan horse because anybody can say something put it in writing and that people are going to respond to that with a higher level of credibility than they would spoken language all right we still have i mean even to this day we still have a respect maybe unearned respect for written language but what it has done is that it has allowed everyone to impose their own narratives on us and i think one of the problems that we're having as a society today and this corresponds to lucifer's right uh lucifer's technologies is that there are just so many narratives that we're being pummeled with and it's just becoming impossible to sort them out and i think what's happening now with a lot of people that they're just kind of burning out they're just almost kind of like tuning it out because it just gets to be overwhelming you know the human brain was not designed for this absolute avalanche constantly 24 7 of information so long way of answering a short question but i i would definitely say that it's a writing that's the original trojan horse but it also i mean language computer language coded language all these kind of things they all tie together i mean we wouldn't have computers without language obviously i mean it's it's almost like a truism but we wouldn't really have anything without language because how do we convey information to each other you know it's got to be written down unless you know you can speak to people directly yeah i agree and it is interesting that you can do all that jordan maxwell type of stuff with language like good morning morning with a u is you know obviously what you do when someone dies so there there is this like kind of encoded darkness to some language especially stuff that we use on a daily basis and maybe there's a point to that but you could scale it up to the computer technology stuff and look at every computer company every silicon valley company they all have these esoterically drenched names the same way we talk about the rocketry program and the apollo mission and osiris rex and spacex dragon x and falcon x and all this stuff yeah it's there also in the tech companies apple with the bitten apple has the religious context oracle uh the masonic apron is the gmail logo the chrome logo has a 666 it's it's just like well the first i'm not even a religious person but you look at example after example and eventually have to say they're communicating something here well i just wanted to add that the first apple computer cost 666 dollars like that's you know um esotericism has always been deeply embedded into the military industrial complex of which the computer industry is the central part these days um you can't separate it uh you know you're talking about ufology and everything and and how it's sort of seeded as a propaganda tool but it isn't just that that's part of it but you also have to understand that there are a lot of people particularly in the military that are true believers i mean we see this all the time now we see all these quote unquote uh whistleblowers appearing before congress they all have military intelligence whatever backgrounds i think there is and always has been for lack of a much better term a ufo cult within the government that i think even goes back before the age of ufos as we understand them okay i mean you can go back to a lot of sort of proto-science fiction in the 19th century and see traces of this um well this is one of the things that i get confused about when i read your stuff because you write about all these rituals and this exchange like there seems to be a real thing happening but then you'll call them like delusional psychopaths with ocd obsessed with larping it's like well it's not larping and they're not delusional are they because it seems like they do get results well there are a lot of people doing a lot of things you know you can't make blanket statements like that you know what i'm saying i mean there are particular people that are delusional and are larping and there are particular people who i would say a much much smaller proportion of those people are actually in contact with something um i would say that the medium is what the medium has always been which is hallucinogenic drugs i think that that is basically um the foundation of all of this well something with nukes and rockets has to have like level jumped the interaction or they wouldn't keep doing it that way it's much easier for steve jobs to take lsd and get the idea for the imac than it is for jeff bezos to send up a space dick with katy perry on it for whatever the hell reason whatever that yielded i don't know maybe it got some message maybe they all came back and said yeah the big thing in the sky told us that you need to take the company this direction i don't know but clearly there's a reason why they put so much extra energy and attention into this level of things as opposed to taking some drugs and drawing a pentagram well again i mean there are a lot of people doing a lot of different things and the other thing that you have to take into account is we have since we sort of came up in this abrahamic context that informed western civilization for so long and you know there's a right way there's an orthodoxy and there's a wrong way and they're the way things are supposed to be and then there isn't if you study paganism a term that i actually don't like because it's not descriptive but if you study pre-christian religion or polytheistic religion whatever you want to call it um there's just incredible syncretism across the board different people have different definitions of different gods um they'll combine them willy-nilly i mean that's something that i've tracked quite a bit throughout this story you know particularly with this syncretic god jupiter amon which seems to be very important into all this story because he was the god of alexander the great who was the model for all modern conquerors and would-be world governors right it's very complicated and i know that kind of sounds like a bit of a cop-out but once you really start getting to the weeds with all this stuff you can't you can't make definitive statements about who believes what across the board because as i said there are a lot of different groups and a lot of different individuals and a lot of different cults that have different beliefs that have different ways of seeing the world and they believe that they're interacting they might be all interacting with the same figures but they experience it differently right because if you if you go into say like a ayahuasca kind of experience and you bring your cultural baggage with you you bring your expectations you bring your assignations you go into this world that is just completely outside of our reality and you need to you need to translate what you're seeing and that's where that i believe that comes in and that's why we see so many people having different experiences throughout the throughout the age and even today you know so all right if roswell and the spaceship crash thing was a cover story let's get deeper into what was covered up you write throughout the entire series i've been unable to shake a very strange thought out of my head what if roswell was expected or in fact orchestrated and then later you say the roswell events themselves are so laden with symbolism that one seriously has to wonder if what we saw was in fact some kind of ritual or not any kind of accident at all and we talked about this nine years ago but decode this event a little bit for us for the uninitiated because there's a lot of word play and stuff going on here that does speak to the ancient mythology type of stuff that you wouldn't expect in a random crash of some craft well there are a lot of things going on there's sort of the name game or the nomenclature and there's also alignments that are very important in the story that were kind of the code breaker for me but there's also the timelines so there are all these different things that to me all correspond to sympathetic magic okay roswell is not far from the white sands installation where they had the trinity tests you know the trinity but i don't think it's the trinity that people are thinking of i think it's this trinity of jupiter amon and venus and dionysus it's a different it's sort of this greco-egyptian chaldean uh canaanite syncretism all right that that was actually well documented in the ancient world um the crash itself or what they call the crash itself the alignments on it are very very curious there's a number of different things going on here um but if you just go due east you're gonna end up at balbec and balbec of course uh temple to a syncretized solar jupiter as is jupiter amon who is the horned and hidden god you know the rams he was the the figure of zeus but he had the ram's horns that come from a moon and that corresponds to a lot of things that crowley was interested in um but roswell itself the uh the downtown area if you keep going east there um give me just a second here i've got so many notes i've got some notes here myself uh so the crash is said to take to have taken place on the plains of saint augustine named after the church father augustine of hippo who wrote extensively on the nature of demons of the air so the event takes place at a spot named for a guy who was known for talking specifically about demons of the air the roswell army air base was the home of the only atomic bomb wing group in the world at the time so you kind of think that maybe that's where the exchange happened or the event happened and maybe maybe something dropped down as a result of a ritual in the area but the roswell rose well of cadmus was always so interesting to me you got this being cadmus again a lot of these beings have multiple names but in cadmus's mythology he's associated with this red well of mars a red mars is the red planet roswell rose well it's kind of all right there and then you go on to say cadmus the civilizer the shining one the great initiator would become you guessed it a reptilian and then this is from the writings cadmus was deeply troubled by the ill fortune which clung to him as a result of having killed the sacred dragon and one day he remarked that if the gods were so enamored with the life of a serpent he might as well wish that life for himself immediately he began to grow scales and change in form well there's another very very very important detail about cadmus though as a cadmus was instructed by the great gods of samothrace who were basically these chimeric figures who are said to be the sons of vulcan but who crashed to earth in a meteor they came to they came to earth in a flaming meteor and then they crashed on the island of samothrace and they emerge from the island you know and their little spaceship let's say and they start teaching everyone how to make stuff you know make ships and all the rest of it and they're the ones who instruct cadmus and cadmus is a very important figure because he's seen as the founder of the greek city of thebes he was the king of that city and thebes of course lent its name to an egyptian city and this is where you start to get all this very complex syncretism between greek and egyptian religion that we can trace back of course to alexander right and the ptolemies and that is going to give us jupiter aemon and later going to give us serapis who some people feel was an influence on uh depictions of christ and so on and so forth so there's a go ahead and let me just throw this out too so if we're going with the premise that this ritual happened and it caused some kind of magical object to come down and scientists were able to take it and then make the transistor and make the circuit board and all these things they had to have a story how these things emerged and they gave it all to bell labs bell labs is the company that's just developed this stuff in a vacuum well cad bell labs becomes lucent technologies and cadmus and lucent are the same word the same figure is described with both names so they didn't really hide it that much but they basically gave the bean the name of the company and then this is what things emerged out of then it became at&t eventually because bell labs was so big it was one of the few times they actually used the anti-monopoly stuff and broke up a company no no you gotta actually get it backwards um bell okay set me straight bell labs was a division of the old phone company the old bell company which later became at&t and then bell labs sort of spun out into its own thing it was separated as lucent back in the 90s my wife actually worked for that company for about 10 years they're where that all happened where the uh transistor and all the rest of it happened is about 20 minutes from here but the symbolism again if you look at the old logo of lucent it looks like an ouroboros you know a snake eating its tail and that corresponds to cadmus who became a snake who became a serpent but just get back to the um alignments because the alignments are really important as part of the story so you did mention saint augustine in the city of god um talking about the demons of the air which was actually he was quoting another author a roman pagan author is is how these beings behave and everything if you read that if you read that passage it's almost kind of frightening you know it just sort of jives with a lot of things that people say about aliens today right um so the roswell crash site as you said planes of saint augustine um on the almost just off by what is that a four seconds uh of latitude but it's basically the same exact latitude as balbec and what's balbec balbec is something that you see all the time in ancient aliens like how did they build a temper of jupiter with these huge stones that nothing can move today how was the romans if we believe that the romans actually move these stones um how were they able to move these things which thousands of tons i mean we we have no equipment today that can move those stones um they would have to be broken up and somehow those are moved so that's also part of it because probably around that time when this whole alien technology idea and religion starts to kick in people are looking at balbec and saying well that must have been aliens or or maybe even the giants right but also um the 34th parallel is also the socorro ufo event that some of you might know about with the egg and the egg corresponds to a lot of things that uh kenneth grant wrote about who was one of crowley's main acolytes he was sort of allegedly given control of the oto by crowley himself and then there was a split and all the rest of it that you know that's not really important but the other thing too that's incredibly important and i got this from david the late great david flynn um is that he talked a lot about the watchers and mount hermon so the watchers the reason why i think the watcher cult and these things are all sort of mixed in together but you know the whole cult of the fallen angels why is this important because what did they do they brought technology down didn't they they taught if you read the book of enoch they taught you know how to use weapons uh how to read the the stars uh they even taught the meteorology i mean all these these skills and of course all this was geared towards war you know people will read like the book of enoch go wow these watches seem like they were really helpful no it was they were teaching in the in the story in the context of the story they were teaching people all this technology so they could be more effective at waging war that's basically the story that's the rest of the story you don't hear a lot about but uh so mount hermon is exactly parallel with downtown roswell so there's a couple of coincidences there that are really kind of hard to swallow you know what i'm saying it's like how did how did this all happen and then you have the cadmus thing but it's like almost every detail almost every detail of names dates uh alignments whatever you want to call it corresponds to something important something major in this whole ancient religion of these beings that would come to earth and teach men things so really you can see the fallen angels and the great gods of samothrace as being basically the same figures but just filtered through the cultural lens of the time you know you have the cultural lens of judaism apocalyptic judaism in in the late new babylonian empire that really is the background for the watchers and enoch and the rest of it and then you have um whatever mystery cults are behind the whole things with samothrace and the great gods but they're really the same story and you see these stories in all these different contexts you know i talk a lot about the mithras cult why is the mithras cult so important why do you see mithras everywhere uh that you're not supposed to see well mithras was granted technology by the gods he was given all these tools to you know to fight the gorgons and all the rest of it to you know to do the dirty work of the gods basically he was given technology so all these belief systems that really come to prominence in the 19th century and feed into this whole military industrial complex matrix that gives us roswell that gives us ufology that gives us all the rest of it hollywood you name it a hundred years or so later really springs from this weird matrix of secret societies during the industrial revolution particularly in london specifically um but it's all feeding into the culture and i would say almost reaches its apotheosis with ufology and with the alignments obviously there are many you also have this one where you point out that area 51 is at 37 degrees not far off from 34 but following that line east will take you into the heart of sicily ultimate birthplace of the ancient eleusinian mysteries why is that because sicily is where persephone was abducted by pluto the king of the underworld sicily was the primary cult center for persephone in the ancient world note also that pluto was identified as a craftsman and possessed a helmet that resembled the kind of cloaking technology they were working on at area 51 apparently so even the tech itself the descriptions in the ancient writings match the conspiracy lore of what's apparently at this location on the same parallel it is quite layered and weird and people are probably sick of me bringing up patrice chaplin but i did just interview her she's known for the book the portal which talks about this portal on top of mount cantigou in spain and the people of jirona this cabalistic lineage of occultists who have kept their tradition in that area a secret for a long time but her follow-up book is the stone cradle and if you're a person who's initiated into a cult or whatever and they're willing to reveal some things you put out the portal book great but the thing that was even more secret to them was the stone cradle and they brought out i read the book she describes them bringing out these scrolls and these old documents trying to explain to her why they believe what they believe they are a luciferian cult they believe that when venus completed its cycle you know it's uh creates a pentagram every seven or eight years the flower of venus when it completed that cycle five thousand years ago a meteor came from that point in the sky hit the ground and a being of light came out of it and that was lucifer and according to the book they still have the stone cradle it is a about the shape of this desk probably and you can lay on it and you'll be healed and some kind of weird substance oozes out of the pores of this stone and the cult bought the land where and i don't know if they moved it or bought the land and it's never moved but it is now on private property that they control and so they take the lucifer thing very seriously they're not saintness they're not and they think of themselves as followers of a being that was very helpful and maybe the church twisted it around because you know they want to have the authority on everything it's hard to unpack at all it's like a flow chart of if you believe this then this is the way it goes and this is the moral orientation of this and that but like here's another story totally separate from anything i've heard from you where a group of people a cult say that their whole origin of why they believe what they believe in the knowledge they've gained is because a meteor hit the ground and it had healing properties it was a technology and it came from a being that they call lucifer it's weird i don't know what the providence of that new uh that myth is you know per se i but it definitely jibes with a lot of similar myths you know talking about mon hermon and the uh fallen angels again but you had mentioned sicily um there are a couple of very interesting things because there's another mountain there there's mount etna where persephone and her handmaidens were picking daffodils okay narcissus flowers and then pluto hades whomever comes up through a portal doesn't he comes up through the underworld through a portal so there's there you go again i mean there's a belief that there's a portal at mount etna but another interesting detail that i should just add in here is that the handmaidens of persephone were turned into the sirens by uh by demeter so they could because the original sirens were bird women they weren't mermaids that was much later right the original sirens were were like these bird women chimeras and they were turned into the sirens so they could search the world for persephone even though she's not on the world she's in the underworld but there's also in in a jewish text there's also a myth that the the women who became the wives of the watchers were also turned into sirens right so there's this really interesting kind of syncretism this this almost like this subterranean tradition that runs through all these myths but again you're dealing with portals you're dealing with technology you're dealing with these beings that come through these portals associated with mountains this ties in to what we talked about with travis scott in astroworld does remember that discussion we had with the portals and and the the rings of hell and then all the symbolism that he was using he had that big mountain that big mountain uh set stage set for all of that so i think that there is part of this language and again everybody puts their own little spin on it there's no orthodoxy there's no pope of occultism right there's no pope saying you know no that's not how it really is it wasn't at you know this place in spain it was actually mon hermon in in lebanon or is you know mon atna or whoever there's no standardization of all this mythology so when we see things like roswell you really have to pay attention to the details and track where all these details come from because i think that's almost that's almost like part of the op right is to sneak in all these little details that all correspond to sympathetic magic by the way i mean why why do all these things happen this is something that i always wanted for years because i'd always see like oh you know there's this music video and they're putting all the stuff in or you know the one eye and all the rest like i never was very convinced by the explanations that a lot of people put in this material forward had until i started studying not studying but studying the history of sympathetic magic and and ritual magic and i realized oh okay this is all ritual magic this is this is all they're using these symbols and these alignments and these dates and all the rest of it to um basically practice sympathetic magic so they can bring that power of these figures that they're trying to draw on or call upon unto themselves yes and let me bring this up too because in previous conversations about this we have not gotten to the collins elite people who listen to this show they know about the collins elite it's this uh society i guess within the department of defense that thinks that the aliens are demons well this is from your blog you quote nick redfern's book and he says beyond any shadow of a doubt at all the strangest belief of the collins elite was related to the roswell affair in what is certainly a unique fashion they came to believe that nothing extraterrestrial or otherwise crashed at roswell rather the group concluded that the event was staged a trojan horse type event provoked by demons trying to deceive us into accepting the idea that vulnerable et's had crashed at roswell and were responsible for the wave of flying saucer encounters that gripped the nation in the summer of 1947 for the collins elite the alien debris and memory metal said to have been recovered at the crash site on the foster ranch were nothing less than the result of diabolical demon alchemy in other words the group formed an opinion that these strange entities weaved the materials then had them manifest on the foster ranch thus creating the image of a crash of something exotic from the skies but what are the bodies said to have been found at the site well the collins elite had an answer to that issue too their members claim to have read reports suggesting that no literal bodies were ever found at roswell at all rather they maintained that certain biological materials were recovered so not bodies biological materials is interpreted as bodies in the community exactly i'm getting there so yes you made comparisons to the golems of jewish folklore and then you actually said you think it's more of the homunculi and you quote the chemical marriage of christian rosenkreutz because that text heavily talks about the making of a homunculus and uh it's of course one of the foundational texts for the rose of christians and then you say or should i say roswell crucians and that's interesting because that's another one of these things so you wrote this in 2016 again i keep saying it but diana pasolka in her last book she talks about her interactions with jacques valet and she's like jacques valet has this incredible library and we were talking and he pulls a book off the shelf and he's like i advise you to study this look into this and it's the book of rosicrucianism why would he do that he's a how'd you know a decade in advance that uh ufology is basically rosicrucianism light because i sat in a room with about 20 people including jacques valet and he said i am a rosicrucian so and yeah back when uh back in esalen 2008 oh okay yeah so i heard it from the horse's mouth okay i'm not making it up um the collins elite are very interesting the interesting so the collins elite was one of that was like my first viral post i would say on the secret sun that thing went viral big time there was a real interest in that i to me it was just another post i didn't really even think i think it put it up on a friday or something i mean there really wasn't expectations for it on my part um i i don't want to say i'm skeptical of the collins elite but i i almost wonder if it's kind of like ong's hat or something it's like a thought experiment um i've never seen compelling evidence that this group even exists okay i read i obviously read final events and i've read a lot of the follow-up materials on it um it seems to me that it's similar to the rosicrucians i mean the rosicrucians basically i believe to be a hoax right the original the the chemical wedding of christian rosenkreutz was seen as you know there were all sorts of theories about if you've ever read the book um for cults pendulum by umberto echo they talk about how the book was being used for all these templar remnants to communicate with each other you know they had you know this before telephones and all the rest of it and they needed to sort of communicate so they encoded all this information into that that that text that they i i don't know if that's necessarily true but the point is is that it's very interesting that you bring those two phenomena up together because i sort of see the collins elite as like the rosicrucians i mean the rosicrucians sort of evolved it starts off i think most scholars agree that i don't want to say a hoax per se but it was it was a concoction all right it was an invention all right and i think that it took on a life of its own and it started to incorporate things from hermeticism and alchemy and freemasonry and other uh kabbalah all these different esoteric traditions and became its own thing and became you know extremely successful you know when the the the theosophical society really started to decline around the 1920s after the whole krishnamurti thing the the rosicrucians the amork right really took they they were very popular um they built all these incredible temples i think there's one out in california there's there's one in pennsylvania um they were very successful because it's an idea you know it's the power of an idea and i think the collins elite is kind of the same thing it's like this idea that these are these uh men within the pentagon these people within the defense establishment that are concerned about ufos but not from the standpoint that we would assume that they see them as this expression of demonic activity you know ironically i would say they're probably closest to the truth right i mean whoever put put forward this you know i i would very heavily recommend if you haven't read it already but to read the uh text on ultra terrestrials by dr karl rashke who sort of put the final pieces for the whole lucifer technology series into context for me and his whole way of thinking is that the ultra terrestrials are these beings that can exist in our world and are seeding people like computer scientists or whomever so we can enter their world okay but that's really what you know that's what roschke's thing really comes down to and he talks about how it has a a deconstructive effect okay that's really sort of the thrust of the paper is you know the deconstruction of the ufo phenomenon the cultural deconstruction which i think is very real but it just goes to show you getting back to you're asking me about the trojan horse right so this is what what i was saying is that you can make up something almost out of a whole cloth like the rosicrucians and 500 years later it's something that has taken on a life of its own okay and i mean the flip side argument to that is that uh somebody made a text that was supposed to be provocative that was supposed to subtly be revealing something and it got too popular so they say whoa whoa it was just a hoax just a hoax don't you worry about that i mean and maybe it's a mix of the two i mean who knows but definitely ideas can take on a life of their own while we're still in this first hour i wanted to kind of lay out the timeline again and solidify this thing because roswell is a singular event that we're saying is a cover story for something that seems like more of a call and then an answer so there are other events in the continuum so june 16th 1945 is the trinity test so this is another thing where uh downard said that the giant jumbo bottle might have had a homunculus in it that's another speculation so now there's a homunculus on both sides but we are talking about nukes and nukes are one of these cross-dimensional things that people like david lynch really pointed out no it's not just a bomb it's tearing a rip in the fabric of space but so you have the trinity test then january 10th 46th project diana july 1st 46th operation crossroads drops gilda in their able program so crossroads again this is where you do magic at the crossroads and then uh 25 days later there's another crossroads drop of helen uh they called it baker like why do you even need to name the bombs it is just weird but then a year later you have the maury island and kenneth arnold events to kind of prime the public for ufology so these things happened the year before and these are all the nuclear tests and then you have the maury island incident and then uh just a month after that you have roswell but there's something in between there's the shelter island conference you say rockefeller and bell labs was all over this thing it happened at the rams head lodge they actually so not just at the rams head lodge they opened the lodge early the rams head in they opened it early so this conference could take place there and then general roger ramey ramey is the guy who gives the press conference at fort worth he is in charge of the air force unit for operation crossroads the previous july and his family coat of arms includes the black rams head so if operation crossroads and roswell are connected well it makes sense that general roger ramey is in charge of both things or he's the same guy giving the press conference about roswell but this is a continuum of events and rocketry that territory is well worn when it comes to the occulty residue on rocketry but it's not as well worn with the nuclear testing it's a little bit there but if we're connecting the two you're saying that these these events project diana was very significant right i mean this was the call and then roswell was the answer talk to us about project diana and operation crossroads as a part of this overall thing that happened well i do see it all as a ritual cycle and starting with the trinity tests at white sands okay and you and you did bring up david lynch of course um but i would also include uh hiroshima and nagasaki in this whole cycle okay um that all has to do with like the uh splitting of the atom very alchemical it's all about prima materia and so on and so forth i mean it has i i don't want to say spiritual connotation but definitely has a metaphysical aspect to it a supernatural aspect to it it's you know it's a science beyond science okay um but the thing you know so project diana is run by the uh us army signal corps at fort monmouth again not too far from here and not maybe about an hour from where bell labs was okay so these things are all happening at the same time and i should also add uh bell labs is due north of where alistair crowley's uh earthly remains were interred okay people don't realize that you know his remains such as they were were interred uh about 20 minutes from here in new jersey um so for some reason that's very interesting uh i i i would argue that the uh origin of jersey which is cesaria has something to do with it because january 10th when you had project diana was the day that julius caesar crossed the rubicon okay we know all that terminology from back in 2020 don't we the crossing of the rubicon and so on and so forth and i should also add that the same area is uh very heavily owned by the rockefellers they own tons and tons of land around here and they actually have like their own little world mini world trade center uh up north you know at the base of the skylands but so i would argue that both hubbard and parsons knew about diana and that they had timed the babylon working to coincide with diana so the whole thing with diana is that the exercise was about sending radar signals bouncing them off the moon so you know strictly speaking it was humanity's first contact such as it was with an extraterrestrial body okay so that's that's the importance of it and we all know about dianetics diana um hubbard was very obsessed with this figure you know diana or or whomever uh hath or whatever her other cultural expressions were and then he moves down to six six six uh what was it i actually parked in front of the house we went on vacation a couple years ago in bayhead and we used to park in front of the old parsons uh the old uh hubbard house where he wrote dianetics so diana dianetics it's all very important to him um his son about i think in the late 70s wrote a book that exposed how immersed hubbard was in the occult and so on and the whole connection with with crowley um so i believe that the timing of the babylon working was was very much intentional okay that it was all that and very another interesting thing the babylon working takes place also on the 34th parallel which is directly not you know i think it's 34 degrees and maybe like 15 minutes so it's not exactly but it's it's roughly parallel with the plains of saint augustine is that a you know is that a coincidence is it these things just all add up i mean you just keep seeing this stuff repeat over and over again so project diana i think was really the signal you know because it's extraterrestrial right i mean bouncing radar signals off the moon so it's not a physical contact it is electronic okay right and if there's beings that are electrical ish in nature out there they would recognize that attempt from the planet and as we're wrapping up here i wanted to read this on the subject of the best people being put on the case and insights from behind the curtain this is just from the blog you say this is what former inquiry to queen elizabeth and prince philip wing commander sir peter horsley a guy who was as high up in the power pyramid as a military man can get had to say about this stuff suppose we are actually living in a multi-dimensional time track with the same space including a young primeval world our own and a much older world with advanced technology all aging and developing side by side conscious and sometimes stirred by the presence of the others strange ships in the sky images of ancient creatures the imprudent antics of poltergeists and strange noises like the creaking of bed springs from an empty room these time tracks spin around like separate grooves of a gramophone record each plane a different score until given a sudden jolt when the needle jumps a track imposing for a very short period an unintelligible tune upon its neighbor before being returned to its own groove again interesting take from someone who was a advisor to some pretty high-level people but chris this is always a treat i am super psyched that you are the first guest for this video format i'm very uncomfortable here i don't know what to do with my hands or anything uh it is a bit awkward it is a bit awkward yeah i know awkward story of my life but tell the people what you got coming up with the institute the links all that good stuff so much coming up um where should i start um well the one thing that i do want to put in a plug for um this is going to be i'm planning this to be out in september is xf ultra of course my x files book which is going to go into all the various undertones and subtexts of the series that none of the official books would talk about um i'm really i've been working on this book i have it it's about 408 pages right now and i'm not even close to the finish line so it's going to be a tome it's going to be a phone book so just preparing people uh you know what's going on with that um we've been doing all we just did a big thing on the zizians the zizian cult i have a uh i'm working i've been doing true crime podcasts but all like true occult crime you know sort of in that vein you know not just doing about serial killers whatever i'm working on a new one right now which is going to be really mind-blowing about this cult whose existence has just been made known to me cults i think are a huge issue and i'm going to become an even bigger issue in the in the future i think we all need to get used to these cults because we're going to see a lot of crime and a lot of tragedy attach to them but um you know that void that was left by organized religion needs to be filled by something and it's it's being filled by cults um so there's a lot going on i'm going to be doing a live stream on uh what i call 80s ick like all the weird inappropriate stuff that we saw in our 80s movies that we were completely oblivious to like et and the goonies a lot of spielberg stuff well steven speaking of that kind of thing steven king i never really read much of his work i'm just now learning that he has so many scenes of inappropriate kids and most of his work and it's like well no wonder he's exalted to the top of our culture because he's writing about pedo shit kind of well he wrote not to no no i'm glad you i'm glad you brought that up because that ties in with with what i've been working on um he wrote an x files episode that had to be rewritten because if you go back and read the script it's just so creepy with like this little girl and all this coded language uh it's really there's something seriously that's all i'm gonna say um the 80s ick is coming up yeah the secret yeah well a great a great example is is the movie fire uh was it fire starter with the drew barrymore movie um there's like if you ever watch that movie that's full of pedo sick nonsense but um we there was a lot of this stuff in the 80s and 90s that we just completely oblivious to oddly enough i interestingly just watched part of this movie powder have you ever heard about the movie powder it was made by a convicted pedophile named victor salva and when you watch the movie that there are certain tropes that that pedophiles for a lot of better term like to put in their stories and it's full of them unsurprisingly um but yeah there's a lot going on uh i've got a lot planned um live streams uh you know i've got live streams planned for the rest of the year but things always change because something always comes up and my brain always goes somewhere else so it's been very active uh both the s ssi and the extension school have been very active on posting regularly as well as posting on the secret sun uh unfortunately with ai and one thing that ai is really impacting is my traffic on the secret sun because uh really oh yeah because you know you just see it like you just do a search on whatever topic and the ai is going to basically intercept you it's it's google uh bing all these big search engines now you know your first results are going to be this ai synopsis let's just say exactly it really destroys the whole ecosystem of people blogging and then the ads on their page get seen and they get you know a cent for that but there's a lot of internet journalism going on that uses that economic model and it's being usurped because the ai just pulls it out and gives it to you on a different page the search results page and all those people are pretty but well if you're reliant if you're reliant on advertising you are i mean hey you're speaking my language buddy it's you said you heard it here first it's it's been like that for a while um you know google's ad sense just destroyed everything um you know it's true uh i'm glad i'm glad the ftc is going after them because they have been anti-competitive for so long now but um yeah there's a lot going on and a lot of things in the work one thing that i will say is that i am very much planning on my next book project after i finish the x-files book to be something involved with lucifer's technologies good because there's a lot of information that i've been collating and collecting over the years since i did that series um and i'd also like to kind of put it all together because it's you know it's broken up into like 16 or 17 different posts and i would like people to have it all together um so once i finish the x-files book uh that will that will be the next thing i'm going to tackle and i'm going to bring it up to date you know because you know like i said at the beginning i i believe that we are going to defeat lucifer's technologies i really do i i mean it i i'm not just saying that um to cheer people up i really do believe it and one thing that i really want to do is break people out of this sort of pessimistic defeatist attitudes when it comes to ai and these other technologies because they're not invulnerable yes and they're not inevitable all right i'm with you on that mission for sure i think that these are things that we can basically conquer and make our own um one thing i have noticed with a lot of ai imagery and and particularly the the animation is how it just like it's weird man it like i feel like i'm dreaming it like i'm watching my dreams of something so i i think that i think that we are going to conquer ai and make it our and make it um our expression of our collective unconscious that's something that i've been really thinking very seriously about and that might be cheers to that yeah that might be the uh the conclusion of uh my lucifer's technologies book that um we're going to win and we're going to make this thing our slave uh i like it yeah it's not going to be our master we're going to be the masters so i'm just let me just say that um you know we didn't have a chance to go into a lot of that that kind of thinking but um i really i really do honestly believe that um it's an invader it's it's a would-be colonizer and it's going to be repelled okay so there you go we're going to have independence day against ai i like it all right man well as always serious pleasure i think this was a great one keep up the good work and take care thank you sir all right guys there we have it the king of synchromistic swing the great chris knolls obviously a strategic choice i wanted the first one here to be somebody i was comfortable with with material i already kind of knew because there were so many added factors at the studio but i think it's going to work out of course i started by saying most oldest one of the clunkiest stupidest phrases to kick off a new milestone but welcome to thc 2.0 i guess i do think my voice in the studio has a little tweaking left to go but i thought it went really well sure i started off kind of nervous but i got comfortable pretty quick and chris did a lot of the heavy lifting as the guests do around here you know i'm just the guy asking the questions but i thought it was great and when it came to the blue origin stuff i do think it's really interesting that the logo is a feather i mean fallen angel why is it a feather hmm it's one of those things now the guys did splice in some of the imagery that i asked them to and i don't know exactly where i'm gonna have to communicate better with them on where they put in things and did they put in everything but one thing i think that we missed was the amazon alexa ad and this is another one of those is it relevant or are we stretching kind of things i guess but chris points out in his blog that amazon launched a super bowl ad one year for alexa and right when the camera pans by the alexa device is a very interesting figure on the desk next to it a little statue that kind of looks like a fallen angel it kind of looks like baphomet i think it's doing the as above so below always something right it's just it always stacks up so i thought that was really good i'm gonna throw that image on the screen right now just so everyone can see it who's watching but i'm a big fan of this material the roswell working perspective is just so interesting we've come a long way thinking about ufology as more of a spiritual thing but if that's the context we gotta fold in all the extra ufology material into it so i think i think it works the fact that it's the exact latitude is bow back clearly sticks out to chris as relevant and me as well so let me know what you guys think of how the first video went i'm gonna be looking at the youtube comments the plus comments we will get through all this together i've recorded the next couple and i do think we made some improvements we have a better frame on the third one that you're gonna see a better framing of the two side-by-side videos it's all coming together it's all gonna work out i've already had some people filling up the support tickets for plus asking well how can i upgrade to the 12 tier just hold on you don't really have to do that yet it'll be there by the first of july but right now i'm trying to show all the plus members what it would be like i don't want you to just sign up for something and you don't really know what it is or if you'll like it this is kind of like the free trial it's considered a free trial and if you're a plus member who's curious you do have to log in to the website and you'll see the video right there in this episode right above the audio player and there are still some kinks for me to work out i have to figure out how to do the casting i know it's a feature of the system i'm working with that you can cast using apple or android from your phone to your tv i saw someone asking if there's multiple language captions i think there might again something i gotta dig into but i did i did notice that it does have captions and a caption word search so almost like clip genies built into it on an individual episode basis so that's pretty cool if you heard a word and you wanted to go back to that part of the video you just put it in the caption search so we're cooking with gas i'm very happy with the technology we're using i don't think there's really any compromises and if i can just figure out how to get them emailed to people which will happen before the end of the month i'm sure then we'll really be in a good place but yeah so i'm going to keep this wrap up kind of short because i'm doing it in video and i don't know if i'm always going to do this i might just put up something on the screen and do it audio because i just have an easier time doing that i don't like the jump cuts i like to kind of stop think for a minute come back to it and it just looks weird in video so i don't know i'm still working out the wrap-up portion but that's fine we figure it out as we go let's jump to the episode rating for the last episode well first i would say with the announcement that's the last thing in the feed super happy with all the positive feedback people have given me and i guess a lot of people recognize that i'm trying to do everything i can do without caving to ads and that's appreciated so all good there are people who've said hey i probably won't even watch the video but i'll sign up for 12 bucks just because i want to give you an attaboy that is like really shocking to me that people pay a little more than they have to and not even utilize things at that level but i'm thankful for it okay now as for the last episode with bear lando i know it was good i think is definitely above a 4.5 i'm going to say 4.8 i mean that is kind of our gold standard we're always super thrilled when we get a 4.8 and it is it is a 4.8 okay i kind of expected that because he is so good and a lot of the comments were like i almost skipped this episode because of the cover art and i think they thought it was more of a health show a health and diet show in particular that's not really what it is it's more the intelligence of nature and types of communication of visual communication that might be embedded in nature and as much as i love that material it is kind of weird because you have to think well nature assumes you know what a brain looks like for walnuts to be good for the brain or know what a heart looks like for the strawberry to be recognized as heart like i don't know maybe just nature thinks well you're gonna rip open a body eventually i'm sure you'll see inside but it's not exactly the best entry point like grapes a bundle of grapes being good for your lungs well how recognizable is that you know you got to rip open some lungs and be like hey they look like grapes i still think the premise is pretty fun and i tend to kind of plan to teach my kids that that's the building blocks of learning how nature tries to talk to you or i guess or i'm not going to raise crazy hippie tree hugger kids but i want them to at least appreciate nature and natural remedies as opposed to pharmaceutical ones so i think that's a good way to help them get some mnemonic device type mental linkage between the vast number of things out in nature and what they might be good for so fun stuff glad it's a 4.8 bear really kind of blew my mind getting into some of the inner earth ascended master retreat stuff it seems like he's seen some things that he didn't even want to really talk about it's probably stuff that is fairly advanced or you have to see it to believe it and he's just like look i'm comfortable saying that there's something to it and the rest is up to you which i respect so as much as i've listened to alpha vedic i still learn stuff from bear when we talk and i think he should be in the rotation more often and seems like people agree now let's do the meetup calendar thing we got today two of them hot dogs and hope in huntington indiana and this is june 1st sunday and then we got champlin minnesota elk creek brewing tacos and truth hot dogs and hope tacos and truth i like it both happening today sunday june 8th anomalous amelo amalgamation not making it easy on me san antonio texas halcyon south town also june 8th trails cafe truth or discussion in la june 14th the very sexy raw milk party in lanesboro massachusetts june 28th orlando florida blackjack parlor magic magnetism and fun huh that might be something i could make it to and then going all the way to july 21st in the far distant future who knows what the world will be like but you could go to gale breathes alehouse and eden terence auckland new zealand as you know higher side meetups.com get on the calendar make your own events or get details about any of them that are near you and of course you can sign up for plus the second hour today did take it a lot deeper we went into that admiral knolls no relation that seems to have maybe been a part of the seeding of ufology mythology with hanavar bush and i think chris makes a great point admiral herbert knolls his hometown is kind of ground zero for a bunch of different events that happen the benny and barney hill thing the seance of the nine isn't far away and uh bell labs wasn't far away so there's a lot of things and if you think about well somebody has to make these things happen it's part of their job and there's a practicality to just going to work and going north one day east the next day west the next day so very interesting i think that graphic is quite telling we talked mainly in the plus show if i remember correctly about the distraction of making ufology a thing and we talked about and deconstructed who would be involved in that and how it would have worked and i also i guess i should say a little bit about the point chris really wanted to make we talked a lot about it in preparation and post and he said it just vaguely there at the end because we ran out of time but he thinks we're going to win this thing he thinks we're going to kick lucifer's technology's ass and it is not going to be a problem so there's obviously a lot of opinions and i think most people would say that we are going to go through a really really rough period of time but it's not going to be the end of civilization and then we will rebuild so this will blow up in their face but a lot of pain will come before it does i share that opinion i'm pretty nervous about the next couple of years i'm more nervous about the next 10 years than i am the 10 after that but these are long arcs we never really know how slow the timeline moves even though we can see where the train is going we don't really know when it's gonna get to that spot in the track where we see a big problem but yeah i like to hype up that sentiment that we will win this thing and it's gonna be okay we'll see it's good to be optimistic right you don't want to be blackpilled i appreciate what he's saying there and we can probably get deeper into it next time as to how we will win maybe it's just a waiting game it seems like a lot of it's outside of our control don't engage with the technologies as much as they want you to and then just kind of make sure you feel safe and secure in your inner circle and wait i don't know what else to do there's a scary story that just came out that trump apparently enlisted palantir to build a database on all citizens including you know all the private information as well as banking information and it shouldn't be a big surprise because we've known that the plan for so long was going to be this social crediting network system so you got to have banking stuff in there but i think a lot of people who had the rose-colored glasses on are like no trump wouldn't do this to me but he's doing it to you i think and is curious how there's so little talk about it except only on the alternative scene that's just something to be aware of i guess maybe there's nothing we can do just like the equifax data breach like i didn't give equifax my information but now it's just breached all right cool thank you that's the world we live in but i share chris's sentiment i hope we will win i think we will win humanity's been around a lot longer than this technology but if you see it in this lucifer's tech context and you think of it as a colonizer or a spiritual weaponized technology injected into our system then yeah there will be a time where it goes away i think well yes i'm cutting this one short because i just kind of want to see how wrap-ups go in this environment and how many times i have to cut and all this stuff but big thanks to chris it meant a lot that he was the guest to help me break this in i appreciate all the support for going this route thanks to the guys at the studio for making the magic happen thanks to bear for crushing it with a 4.8 and i will see you next time the next two shows are already deep deep in the pipeline and recorded and i think you will like them again i should just remind you there's never been a better time to sign up for plus because for the next 30 days all plus members get the full enchilada of thc plus tv and that's a beautiful thing so hop on in if you're curious and that's that i've done my part your move lucifer's legions trojan horse tech cedars and eth ufology deceivers your fucking mood chris says ai is useless he thinks that it's all hype but as he tried to make a song from whatever he can type it may be just a parlor trick but life is just a passing or pushing this shit it's a prestigious place to learn and a cozy comfy happy place to watch the world burn the stupid good sun so fun decoding all the things the secret sun second to none something in the wires things and something in the wires