Danny Sheehan on Disclosure, Power, and a Deathbed Alien Encounter

he called me he was on his deathbed the commander was was had an assignment to go to s4 to area 51 and they went down down down many floor levels and he went in there and they actually had more than one ufo there there was an et standing in there they put this little jumpsuit on him he went into the the room to meet with to meet with of this beam and that was having telepathic communications with him oscar was afraid of it he he thought that the being was demonic and one of the questions they asked him they said who are you what are you doing here he told them telepathically they took down the notes on the card that that i am part of this this group that has been tasked to go around the galaxy monitoring life that has developed on these rare planets uh and earth is one of them so hi everyone and welcome back to that ufo podcast as always my name is andy and i'm joined on today's show by returning guest an incredibly popular guest he is the president of the new paradigm institute and acclaimed civil rights activist and constitutional lawyer daniel sheehan danny welcome back again sir thanks andy it's a treat it's a treat to be here yeah and you did say that to me before the show started as well so danny's not lying there folks he does enjoy coming on this show uh because of all of you and your wonderful questions and no doubt how i put them across to him um but danny it's um it's been quite the start to the year 2026 and ufo world i i said the other day online to some folks it seems like disclosure has never been further away yet to another camp it seems like it's never been closer where do you sit right now in february 2026 with the whole disclosure process and where the ufo conversation is well i i think that it has never been closer uh actually i'm in that camp uh the the fact is that you know that there have been little ups and downs down through the 80 year period you know uh basically uh it's well basically a 78 year period from roswell i mean that's the one when i guess the first time they'd ever had a a some kind of official body sent out a news uh an announcement that they've discovered and covered a ufo you know and even though they covered it up pretty quickly uh that was the the thing that there was a great impetus at that time and there was a lot of pressure coming on uh the the military authorities and they were comparatively new uh at that now if if you think that they got the craft in 1933 you know from through the vatican that landed a crash allegedly in italy or there may have been an earlier one in 1945 but you know we do know that in 1947 we know that they got the debris at least from the crash at roswell uh and so that they were they were fairly new at trying to figure out how to lie about it and cover it up and they were pretty clumsy uh and so there was a major push in there and then there was the big huge flap i think in 52 with all the flyovers in in washington dc that made it very hard for them not to deal to deal with it uh and then they came out with the the kind of bumbling statements about the you know etc so it went up and down but the fact of the matter is that we all know those of us who are younger now and in this particular we're still alive in this particular time period we know that the surge began in december of 2017 with lou elizondo and chris mellon bringing the information that they did to the new york times uh and then everybody started feeling that maybe it was okay because the new york times board of editors with their special relationship with the national security state you know uh were authorizing everybody to confirm that it was true uh and as you had lou and chris you know you had chris as the deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence you know under both the clinton administration and the w bush administration telling everybody that ufos were real uh and so it's very clear that at that point in time some kind of uh shift happened uh in the general societal view of this that there were people in positions of legitimate authority telling people that ufos were a real thing uh and it wasn't true that the air force uh wasn't paying any attention to them didn't consider them real at all uh and so that that's that began now that that particular period of course is like like six years ago or full five years ago so there's been this five-year period where these things have been happening uh which have entailed uh the congress and and probably the big the big move was the united states senate actually slipping into the national defense authorization act the version the senate version uh in 2003 actually to try to get inserted into the 2004 national defense authorization act a whole set of uh acknowledgements that uh ufos were real uh that there was a legitimate question about whether they were extraterrestrial that it was quite clear that they were attributing these potentially to non-human uh entities you know this was a huge event that happened with the passage by the senate uh of their version of the national defense authorization act of 2024 now that got nipped in the bud people thought on the house side when all they agreed to do is pass 23 pages of it uh but it was the provisions ordering the the six u.s military services the 18 u.s intelligence agencies all 32 of the united states defense department agencies at least on the house side they excluded ordering the private aerospace corporations but all the u.s government entities were ordered to turn over to gather together and put together in a comprehensible indexed form every single piece of information they had about the ufo phenomenon dating all the way back to to january of 1945. okay that was an that was an extraordinarily important uh kind of theatrical event at least uh even though even though the house changed it to say you have to deliver it to the national archives you know as soon as possible well as soon as we lawyers saw that the house had changed the language from the senate side which said they have to deliver it immediately uh uh by a certain date it was basically into october uh of the coming year in 2024 and the at the house side intentionally uh removed that deadline and said you have to deliver it as soon as possible and we all knew at that stage that they were not going to comply they were going to pretend that their mother's horse died you know they they've got the flu they had a hangnail you know uh and they they couldn't do it and and that's what's happened uh we got this real slow moving dragging out uh of you know dripping and drabbing little pieces of information over to the national archives and so that on a scale of one to a hundred you've got no more than a you know one percent compliance you know with the actual order but the order is still outstanding from the house of representatives and the senate which is very important okay so so and very importantly the the the house specifically had a number of important hearings uh that went on you know from that period uh primarily in in 2004 2004 2005 you know that they we've had these these uh uh these uh well i mean 2000 uh 24 25 yeah 24 25 we had we had these years in in the grush testimony was extremely important uh that july of 2024 uh testimony where he basically in in a place where he had a reason to know you know came forward under oath and and testified to congress in open session uh that in fact our united states government was in possession of one or more non-human origin uh extraterrestrial spacecraft uh and the bodies or he said biologics but the bodies that were proven to be non-human that was a real watershed moment a real watershed moment okay and so that when that happened when the congress was being told that they began to suspect that they had some obligation to find out more uh because they're the the house oversight committee had already taken the position with dave grush to expose to the public that we had these vehicles uh and that we knew that they were non-human and we knew that they were extraterrestrial okay so that was an important watershed moment so you would have expected you would have expected logically that uh everybody would have been you know like in the science fiction movies uh when you know a ufo lands in in you know central park that all the news media would be jumping up and down and screaming and hollering about this but they didn't because the the higher levels of the defense department kept on telling them no there was no evidence at all it wasn't true what grush was saying we don't have these at these vehicles we don't have any biologics we don't have any and this is arrow the arrow office that got set up you know with sean kirkpatrick was actually asserting that they had no credible evidence of any kind that we were in possession of any such vehicles or that they were of any origin that was non-human and so they were still suffering from the pushback and this going on from the arrow office and from the defense department uh in their official statements so the average person doesn't quite know what to make of this they're they're saying well you know we're getting told this stuff of testimony is coming out of congress we all heard about that but then the people in official positions are telling us that it's not true we don't know what to think okay but those of us those of us who have a uh a political iq above room temperature you know and and are knowledgeable about the detailed information that's actually available are now perfectly aware of the fact that there's some degree of pressure on congress to do something about this not because they want to do something about it because they think that they're being embarrassed now that the american people are going to actually lose whatever level of respect they have for the congress if they don't do something about this and of course now the levels of respect for the congress are down at their lowest levels in history right now you know 25 only 25 percent of the american public uh have any confidence in the congress at all okay and so that that they're scrambling to try to recover some kind of their credibility and and there's some individuals that are in the house of representatives that are still leaning in trying to get this information uh and these are the people that have succeeded in getting james comber who is the chairman of the house oversight committee to agree to set up a task force this is very important this task force that has been set up the task force to declassify government secrets uh a task force inside the house oversight committee is actually operational there are 11 people assigned to this uh and they've got their they've got their teeth deep into the the jeffrey epstein information which is one of their assignments uh and they're they're making their chops on that they have realized that there's a way to uh demand that a bill get put into the the house of representatives demanding transparency on something that's a government secret in that case the the epstein files and if in fact the leadership uh such as mike johnson the speaker of the house uh uh refuses to allow that bill to get put to the floor for a vote there's such a thing as a discharge petition uh and that they can they can get the majority of the members of the house of representatives to publicly sign a discharge petition and they can force it to come to the floor which they did with the epstein thing now that was the task force that was the task force on uh the declassification of government secrets the very same body in the congress that has responsibility for the ufo issue okay so that's very good because they're making they're getting their muscles they're doing the push-ups they're they're doing the sit-ups you know to build up their legislative muscles now even though the 11 people that are on that uh are made up largely of first and second year congress people i mean and that's not a coincidence you know the the people that had the least uh legislative power you know in the entire congress are the ones that were put on the committee uh thereby thinking that the leadership of the congress could give the appearance of really doing something serious but not doing anything serious okay but some of these people haven't gotten the the the inter-office memo they aren't aware of the fact that they're not supposed to really be doing anything that seriously and so you've got people like luna uh and nancy mace very especially you've got eric burleson uh congressman eric burleson uh he is a an honest uh new legislator uh and he believes that he has a constitutional responsibility uh to get this information uh so he's working hard to get it and despite the fact that the congress has not passed an effective statute yet he is in the process of drafting a standalone bill to be introduced into the house of representatives demanding that this information be turned over right now not delaying any longer it'll be turned over to the national archives immediately and very importantly very importantly the piece of legislation that he is considering right now is going to put the into the hands of the house of representatives in the senate the ability to appoint the review board not to go down the road that the senate bill went of saying oh we're going to have the president appoint the people to the review board and let those people decide what's going to be made public and what isn't that was always a serious problem with that bill if you put that into the hands of the president to appoint anybody he feels like to that review board uh and have them be the ones that recommend uh the the uh the publication of the information you know you're not going to get anything right uh the the executive branch is going to lock down on that and refuse to to make it available and if you have a part of the bill that the president ultimately gets to have the authority as he did in the senate bill to ultimately refuse to allow some particular piece of information to be made public at all or even to be declassified and made available to the congress that was not good so this bill that eric burleson is considering now not only demands the immediate turnover of all of the information that they've been ordered back in 2003 to actually compile and put into a systematic indexed filing system to be delivered to the to the national archives they not only demanded that be done now finished and delivered immediately to the national archives but that bill has the proposal of having the congress set up the review panel and make the preliminary decision as to what's going to be publicly revealed and then the congress key key committees in the congress have the authority to override that if they want to but the presumption is that that that board is going to have the authority to make this stuff public so that's that's an extraordinarily important moment that we're in right now there is actually a bill that has been presented to eric burleson he has the bill he's considering the bill it puts congress in charge of declassifying this information uh and he's been provided with a detailed legal brief that proves that the constitution of the united states invests the authority in congress to declassify any information they choose to okay which they didn't even realize i mean the congress was so asleep at the switch that they didn't even know they had that authority but now they do uh in the people in the executive branch didn't even realize that they thought they're the ones that had the ultimate authority but the fact is that authority has been delegated to them by statute passed by congress so the congress has the ability to amend that and take back into their hands the the decision-making power to declassify any information they choose to okay and so now the congress knows that they have the bill that does that uh they have a very powerful whistleblower protection provision in that much stronger than the one that was in the senate bill okay uh and so that they've got it in front of them now and they have the capability of doing that our new paradigm institute is going to be uh handing out uh these pledge cards to every single one of the candidates for the 435 seats in congress this november and all 33 of the 100 seats in the in the senate that are up for reelection uh demanding that they sign the pledge card uh agreeing that they will support the burleson bill in the house of representatives okay and that if in fact the leadership of the house mike johnson refuses to put that bill onto the onto the floor for a vote they will demand a a discharge petition uh and that they will vote for it and they will vote for the transparency act okay we we know we the the the the playbook is established now they know how to do it and we all know they know how to do it okay and so we're organizing the people around the country in the united states since the people in the united states are the five percent of the population of the entire planet that has the constitutional ability to force them to do this okay so we are organizing the people we have we have groups now in 35 of the 50 states uh and we're going to be organizing them in all 435 congressional districts to compel the candidates for the house office seats and the senate office seats to sign the pledge card that they will support this legislation and if they refuse to feel if they refuse to or fail to sign the pledge card we are going to tell everybody that they refuse to support transparency on the ufo issue uh and the reality is people in the united states are pissed you know right now uh at the government at the federal so i see yes at the federal executive branch and they're totally disappointed in the congress to the point where 75 to 80 percent of the people in the country will express their lack of confidence in the congress right now okay so that we have this extraordinary moment going on in the united states right now where we have an opportunity to educate and organize and mobilize the citizenry of the united states to come forward and demand that their representatives you know grant transparency on this ufo information this is a unique set of facts uh in the entire 80 year period of the movement to try to get disclosure on the ufo stuff this is the so i believe we're at the moment where there's the greatest level of probability of our getting significant disclosure than we've been at in the entire 80 year period of this movement that's the short answer to your first question yeah i was going to say i think yeah i think the question was hi danny how are you uh listen it's a wonderful opening and there's a lot of what they pick out there and right now you can't have any conversation i don't think without epstein coming up because it's that's right in every aspect of society here in the uk the united states everything has epstein bleeding into it for right or for wrong is there not a concern and there is for me i suppose let me put it this way so i'm not just putting this on other people you mentioned transparency and that's such a big thing here yet the same task force was trying to get these files out and we're getting stuff out but so much of it is heavily redacted and there's people being accused of some absolutely abhorrent crimes that would go down as some of the worst in mankind's history on an individual basis even taking away the collective of what may have been going on and they won't even publish their names and email addresses that's right i mean but so then what chance do we have in getting we will get what's getting what's getting ready to happen is the members of congress are are now demanding and they have gotten the permission by the justice department of the trump to see the redacted information okay that's an important really though do you not think and i know you're that you're the legal mind here right not me yes but these are some very powerful people i imagine some of them we will know their names some of them will be famous celebrities famous movie stars famous politicians others we won't have a clue who they are right but they're still being with do you not think there's an element of power that goes along with this and this transfers back to the ufo topic as well that you're going to get some information released and there's just some of the stuff that they don't want out no matter how legally bulletproof it is in legislations that are passed things are going to be withheld people will be disappeared people will be unalived for the algorithm friendly word of it and yeah that that just won't come out we're not going to get the totality of it how do you combat that level of elitism and power what what you do is you work with the young women who now are getting energized and and muscled up who know who those people are okay and even though that even though the powers that be and in the justice department and even potentially some of the people in the congress itself you know are don't want these people revealed the women know who they are and so what we have to do is work with the women work with the lawyers for the women to get them to come forward and identify these people tell when it was to the best of their memory that they were on the island with them what they look like what they understand who the people were uh and the the truth the truth has this extraordinarily consistent way of coming forward uh the question is can we accelerate that can we accelerate it so that we can get this done while all of them are still alive right so that some people can actually people can actually seek retribution against them you know you get harvey weinstein is is now sitting in prison right and he was one of the the most powerful guys in all of hollywood and the reality is that almost everybody that was anybody in hollywood knew what he was doing right uh but nobody wanted to talk about it uh but all of a sudden that he's he's been convicted now what they want to do is they want to throw some individual sacrificial lambs sort of under the bus and then walk away and say oh good we got that handled but but the reality is there is a pathway by means of which under the umbrella of the the the jeffrey epstein files we can start to set up procedures inside the congress pursuant to which information like this can in fact be made public okay and so that as i mentioned earlier we're developing the playbook by means of which congress can do this if they choose to do it and the playbook by means of which the citizenry can make the people in congress do it even though they don't want to okay even in fact if they want not to which is what the problem is here you know the people that are in positions of power in in the congress are depending on a lot of these wealthy people to give them campaign contributions yeah so they're going to want not to do this right uh and so that what we need to do is we need to get the people in the streets you know by the tens of thousands uh and and the fact of the matter is that there is this because the trump administration happens to be the one that is at the present time concealing the information about the epstein files and the trump administration is the one that are sending military troops into the democratic cities around the country uh and shooting american citizens uh and there's tens of thousands of people marching in the streets now uh opposing this that has an effect that has an effect upon you know encouraging the citizens to rise up against the administration and demand that the administration which is the executive branch reveal uh information uh and stop doing things that they're doing so there's this major buildup going on in the united states you know and here you have the hypocrisy going on as a sidebar of the trump administration deploying u.s uh aircraft carriers in in battleships to around iran threatening to you know to oust them from office because they're they're attacking demonstrators in the street right and here and here they he is at the same time deploying tens of thousands of thousands of these ice people all around the country conspicuously in democratically controlled cities you know beating up on people uh punching them out knocking them down and shooting them you know and so that that there that we have an opportunity those of us who are trained lawyers who know how the legal system works and realize that everything isn't strictly through litigation but it's through organizing and educating the population and mobilizing them and putting pressure on the right people in the right committees in congress to get particular things done so we're providing the new paradigm institute is providing some of the legal uh acumen that is necessary to figure out where to apply the pressure and to whom and how to do that and we've done it in the past because we did the iran contra case we forced the revelation of the smuggling of the arms to the contras uh even though the entire authority in washington didn't want it revealed you know we've done the karen silkwood case we stopped the construction of the private nuclear power plants you know we've done all this in the past over the past 50 years so we know how to do this uh so i i believe that the the epstein thing is extremely important not only because it is front and center in the mind of everybody but the fact of the matter is that that information is in fact going to come out uh uh and the the fact is that the longer the executive branch through its justice department holds on to that information and our and the information is gotten through other ways and is made public revealing what it is they were trying to keep secret right uh that that is going to be undermining the authority of the executive branch and we who are demanding that the executive branch turn over information to the congress can take advantage of the fact that the executive branch has been weakened okay in their ability to constrict and hold secret information that the american people want to know okay so that this this dynamic that's going on right now is extraordinarily interesting and is is filled with the possibilities right now uh if in fact we all do our job to keep the information coming forward because people keep saying hey look at you know when you've got you know people being shot in the streets and you know in the invasion of venezuela you know going on without congress authorizing it and congress not even having the courage to invoke the war powers act to stop trump from deploying u.s military serve people around the world and attacking other foreign governments you know without any con without any consent from congress at all you know if you have all of this turmoil going on why does anybody want to talk about ufos you know why would you be continuing to just harp on this issue with ufos you know uh but but but the answer is is clear that that that ufos are one of the topics that a larger percentage of the american public wants to know about than any other subject other than possibly the epstein files right so the the two of them are kind of cousins to each other uh and that's that's what that's what we're that's what we're doing uh and so we're going to basically you know how in race cars how a lead car in in the race car the other cars get behind it uh and they get in the vacuum the draft they call it of the lead car that we are getting the ufo disclosure movement into the draft uh of the epstein vehicle that is leading the charge on on trying to break this information out of the executive branch uh and make it available to the people and the fact that it's going to bring down major people of power and influence uh in the the civilian government who have been behind the scenes helping to make the decisions that the executive branch keeps foisting upon the people uh that they aren't even supportive of you know and they're all doing it on behalf of this rich rich and powerful elite okay and the vast majority of people in the country know that's going on and they've known it's been going on for a long time they just didn't think they could do anything about it and that's one of the reasons why now they're relishing this opportunity to bring down and expose some of these rich and powerful people who have been complete hypocrites you know uh and that's what that's what's in the process of happening right now over here stateside yeah and it's touching in the uk as well just today the uk prime minister keir starmer who is the most boring man ever born um is is under a lot of pressure uh given he has appointed uh peter mandelson i won't go into the detail i don't know enough of it and the under the understanding he knew his relationship with jeffrey epstein etc etc he's in big bother yeah i wouldn't even go into politics here in the uk but it certainly seems like you see we're we're in a moment in time that we're going to look back on in years and decades to come where there was a chance of change and that's right time will tell whether that comes or not um even in the last few weeks we've had the event at the the dc press club um hosted by james fox around the virginia event um but a lot of people wanted to know and i'm going to hand over to listener questions now just to kind of structure the rest of the conversation here um nick i'm going to read out his question based on this but a few folks and i want to know danny kirk mcconnell made a statement at the end of james fox's press club event that and speaking of congress congress concurrently received classified information about the ufo legacy program without the authorization of the executive branch i would love danny to weigh on on this there seem to be a lot of folks afterwards thinking that actually then it seems there should be an easier way right now already for congress to get hold of this information they say they're struggling to get so that's right what's actually going on here it's it's the hypocrisy of congress you know the the congress of the united states over the decades have developed this completely uh collective hypocritical stance toward the people you know buffaloing the people you know uh in in pretending that they don't know certain things i mean the people in the congress have known for decades that the ufo program has been going on you know and they just didn't want to acknowledge it because they didn't think they dared do anything about it frankly because they were afraid they were afraid of the people in the executive branch the covert operations people in the intelligence agencies would strike back against individual elected representatives you know and they would pour secret money into their campaigns against them and unseat them and they would even go so far as to threaten them blackmail them you know uh find out about their sexual you know piccadillos uh and and threaten to reveal them publicly you know that they're the the fundamental underlying danger or problem that we have in the united states is the national security state which i've mentioned to you before the existence of this national security state has been set up by the national security act of 1947 creating the central intelligence agency uh and the national security council uh and then that's in december of 1947 but in february of 1948 just a few months later the national security council created by the national security act authorized through a national security council directive authorized the central intelligence agency to engage in covert operations okay and then so so when you start authorizing covert operations outside of the country to overthrow democratically elected governments uh and to assassinate people in blackmail people uh in wiretap people's telephones etc people should have known at that point that's going to come home that's going to come home to roost and it has the central intelligence agencies operations directorate you know is uh is not only assassinating people all around the uh all around the world uh but they are threatening people in in members of congress in the senate you know with physical violence you know i i've told this senator durenberger senator durenberger who was the the senator from uh minnesota you know stood up on the floor of the united states senate and demanded a full investigation of the off-the-shelf enterprise that was engaged in the iran-contra scandal you know and three guys showed up at the house of of his home and dragged his wife out of bed and put a gun in her mouth and told her that if he didn't withdraw his request for this in its full-scale investigation by the senate they would come and kill her and the whole family okay and durenberger never told anybody about that he just withdrew his his request for the investigation uh and then within the week you know front page story from the washington times that right-wing mooney newspaper you know big front page story here's the love nest for senator durenberger with him and his mistress you know and then and that he's an alcoholic and a chronic womanizer and by that following friday uh he had committed himself admitted publicly that he was an alcoholic and then committed himself to this right-wing uh uh alcohol rehabilitation place uh called the cedars outside washington dc and his political career was completely over within a week you know so they all know that and and that's the activity of our covert operations people in the operations director to the central intelligence agency and it turns out that it's the operations director to the central intelligence agency it's science and technology subdivision that is the main coordinator of the secrecy around the ufo issue the same exact people you know and they scare people they threaten people they threaten not only their political career but they threaten the physical safety of their families you know this is a criminal operation that's going on in the united states you know it is poisoning the entire body politic it's poisoning our entire international relations with everybody uh in that we have an opportunity here when everything is in such a state of flux uh and there's tens of thousands of people marching in the streets opposing this executive branch things are so unstable right now that there's an opportunity to start to deconstruct some of these structural sources of injustice uh that are operational here in the united states and to replace them with just structures that's what we need to do the enemy of the ufo disclosure movement is the national security state established here in the united states at the end of world war ii we have to disestablish that and we need to have negotiations with china and with russia and other major countries around the world to have them stand down their similar operations many of which were created in response to the united states the united states taking the initiative at the end of world war ii i mean everybody almost all their countries in the world were on their ass at the end of world war ii i mean the uk was was bombed flat you know uh and you know that russia lost 20 million people dead in world war ii you know they were tearing up rail lines going into europe to get metal for them you know uh china as as as lou elizondo kind of uh undiplomatically said to the ap when they interviewed about this you know certainly china wasn't very powerful in 1947 you know uh they they were their their major he said their major means of transportation was wooden ox cars with stone wheels he said you know so so that it wasn't they that were doing it it's the united states and it was the elite the elite wealthy powerful celebrity people behind the scenes who are manipulating the uh the controls in the main corporations the corporate executives primarily those in the military industrial complex just like eisenhower warned in 19 in 19 uh in 1960 when he was leaving office he said you know beware of the military industrial complex and he should have said military industrial intelligence complex that was now operational you beware of them uh because you know these people are going to be garnering power to themselves that can undermine our fundamental democratic institutions which they have and they are presently doing and so that at the base of all of the the ufo disclosure which is there's the highest level of demand uh on the part of citizenry around the world to get access to this information more than almost any other single thing okay other than the epstein files right now and so that we have the opportunity to to move on this in a way to help undermine the power and authority of the national security state in the united states as long as we can negotiate this with china and russia and and possibly india and some others in the nato countries to stand back to stand back from this national security state competition you know for the the natural resources of the planet utilizing covert operations to to seek out and try to maintain their continued privileged access to the strategic raw materials that are needed by the major corporations in their countries that's that's what's going on here that's the deeper analysis of what's really happening here yeah and i think it's a difficult one to pull out of i think especially your average person speaking for those in the uk are on the bones of their arse as we say here in terms of finances are are low wages are low taxes are high the roads are a mess people's houses are falling to bits if you want to buy a house as me and my wife know as we're trying to do in the early days of saving for one it's so difficult to get on a property ladder if you go to a shop our weekly shop is in the hundreds of pounds when that used to do a month and people are struggling i think all across the western world in most countries just to live and it must be so difficult then to rally behind any cause including ufos especially again not to go back to it too much but as a politician seeking re-election or election in a midterm that you're going to sit on the ufo card yes or the x team card yeah and and someone's going yeah but i i want to buy milk to feed my kids or i want to buy cereal to feed my kids and it's like where do you go with that and it's so difficult yeah and i don't envy i don't i don't feel sorry for politicians but i also don't envy them for the ones who are trying to do the right thing here um and i think a good follow-up to that from from short stuff is with all the evidence already available the admission of knowledge about nhi and uap by senior politicians and military personnel is there is there nothing in the u.s constitution that can be leveraged to force people to give evidence of nhi or uap crash retrievals in public or force the president to make a public statement if not what else is danny think needs to happen for that to take place yeah yeah the the the the fact of the matter is the article one of the united states constitution that creates the congress okay both the house and the senate uh article one section eight uh clause 14 specifically states that congress has the authority to make the rules and regulations governing the activities of the land and naval forces of the united states okay which means they have the ultimate authority to determine what's classified and what isn't classified as part of the procedure for the military because the the uh the assertion that's being made by the executive branch is all of this secrecy is surrounding the development of a weapons system the the weaponization of the technology the energy technology the propulsion technology uh of the uh of the ufos and so that they're pretending this is like a big manhattan project right it's it's like the next big major weapon system on the on the planet and therefore uh they can they can kill people to keep this secret and they can do anything that they want to just keep this all secret okay but the bottom line is that the congress of the united states clearly and explicitly in the in the article one that created congress has the specific designated authority to make the rules and regulations governing their conduct okay and so that the congress has to dare to do that okay and and so that we have the pathway we have the pathway through to it uh and now and the the the problem is here let me back up a bit the problem is that the vast majority of people in the united states and in the uk and in other countries around the world they don't pay that much attention to participating in governing you know half of the people in the united states don't even know who their congressperson is right so they don't they don't participate they don't pay any attention to that and all they all they've been trained out of or into this state of consciousness okay where they don't really believe that they have any power that they have any real authority and so they don't pay much attention to it they spend their time watching football games you know whether it's soccer or rugby or american football you know or or they watch you know you know one of 500 movies that they can get on their television which they can now talk to and change the channels you know they're they're they're sitting back you know being into these material things right and led to believe that they have to work every day uh all day long uh two jobs sometimes both the man and the woman in the family you know in order to to get food for their kids and what's the price of bread and what's the price of milk and eggs okay and the people who are manipulating those costs are the rich and powerful corporations and here you have the the you know the the in the united states this is transparent as you could want uh that donald trump is proposing vastly reducing the amount of income tax that the wealthiest one percent of the people in the country have to pay and that lack of income flowing into the government he's using to take the money away from pay paying for health benefits you know food stamps you know helping to keep down the prices of food and stuff in the country you know uh and it's just as plain as day okay what's happening here uh the the the reason that the prices are rising for the cost of all of these things uh and the the the wages are not going up to enable people to cover this is because of the rich and powerful the elite that own the stock and run the companies the major corporations and now that one doesn't have to be a marxist or a socialist you know to understand that you know and so what we need to do is we need to get the people who are mad as hell about this situation to understand what the cause of it is and they have sort of an instinctive sense that it's these guys that are you know going around getting rubbed downs by 14 year old girls with no clothes on you know uh in the in in trying to have sexual relations with them you know it's these people that are doing that to them they they've got that kind of instinctive sense and what we're saying is hey you're right you're right but you're going to have to do a lot more than simply expose them for their sexual uh weirdness and put a handful of them in prison you're going to have to do more than that you're going to have to get up off the couch and stop you know watching so many football games and so many different movies and stuff like that the only other pastime you have other than going and working for one of these companies you know either directly or indirectly and do your job do your job as citizens right that's the key to this thing we've got to get the congress people to do their job as congress people we've got to get the citizens to do their job as citizens okay and and we still have the devices available both in the uk and in most of the western nato countries and in the united states we have the mechanisms available to do this if we will get off our butts you know and do our work okay rather than wringing our hands and feeling this in despair over not knowing what to do about all this right so that so that's what that's what we're doing and the new paradigm institute is is attempting to not only uh educate and organize and mobilize the people of the united states around this one particular issue but also around the other issues that the task force for the declassification of government secrets are bound are assigned to figure out not only the the the epstein files but the uf in the ufo files but also the jfk assassination files uh the 9-11 files you know i just had yesterday yesterday i just had two federal government investigators come to my home to insist that i give them information uh about something that i know about 9-11 uh not because they're trying to solve what 9-11 is about you know they're trying to find out what everybody knows about it right but but that the people know there's a rat in the wood pile there you know you you don't have osama bin laden's family all being flown out of the united states secretly while all the other planes in the whole united states are down yeah ordered to stand down you don't have that happening you know uh you don't you don't have these these kind of you don't have the central intelligence agency being involved in getting the visas for two of the people that are listed as the hijackers of the planes you know you don't you don't have it there's there's a rat in the wood pile there okay but nobody dares do anything about it because they're afraid of these people all right i mean that's the reality of this you know and we can't be afraid that there's there's power in numbers if all of us rise up together and we we take a stand against this national security state demand that that that it start being deconstructed not only here in the united states but also in russia and also in china you know don't don't insist upon them going farther down that road you know russia historically you know was not an imperialist country i mean they've got more land than they know what to do with anyhow you know uh and china wasn't either china you know the the empires in china asserted kind of dominion over a certain limited uh portion of the world but you know they were they weren't into trying to you know take over the planet that's the united states national security state's job they are determined to establish full military uh full spectrum dominance over the planet uh and they say so in the 1992 united states defense department policy planning guidance document prepared under secretary of defense dick cheney and then president george hw bush you know they said it flat out you know that their their objective is to establish full spectrum military dominance over the planet so that they can defeat any nation state and any non-nation state uh organization anywhere on the planet at any time and the purpose for this military domination is to to seek out and maintain their continued privileged access to the strategic raw materials that they believe they need and of course who do they need them for they need them for the major corporations to be able to stimulate and provide the natural resources to the corporations to to to make them into products so that they can have a a thriving economy so that you know the united states citizens is five percent of the population on the planet can consume like forty percent of all the non-renewable resources that are developed on the planet every single calendar year i mean is anybody not noticing what's going on here you know this is you just have to sit now the reason that i'm i'm capable of having these kind of perspectives is because i served as general counsel at the jesuit headquarters you know uh in their social ministry office trying to understand how the world how the globe was working right and you know i was fortunate enough to get to go to harvard college to have henry kissinger for foreign policy i was the one that sat in the all-male class the last all-male class at harvard university at college you know in gov 182 taught by henry kissinger and have henry kissinger tell us in the first day of gov 182 uh gentlemen uh if there's any man in this class who believes that uh we do not have the right uh to lie cheat and steal and even kill uh on behalf of the best interests of our country you shouldn't remain in this course right okay that's that's a reality that's a fact okay and i was fortunate enough to get to go to harvard law school after that i was fortunate enough to get to you know become legal counsel uh at in the pentagon papers case with the lawyers in the firm that retained me i was i was fortunate enough to be one of the co-founders of the harvard civil rights law review at law school to to establish a case where we establish the right of journalists uh investigative journalists to protect their confidential news sources so what i have done is i've attempted to put all of these extraordinary blessings and opportunities that i happen to have had as an individual person you know a person whose father you know was the first one in the sheehan clan to even graduate from high school right so i've been completely blessed uh and so i know that and so what i want to do is i want to be able to apply these types of skills to get access to the kind of information that our people need and try to figure out how it is that we package it and can deliver it to our people in a way that they can do something about it and that's why this ufo issue is so important uh it is so central i mean to actually have a national security state apparatus operating that thinks they have the authority to conceal actively conceal through threats of physical violence conceal the fact that there's a non-human extraterrestrial civilization completely surrounding our entire solar system in our galaxy and they don't want you to know this they want to keep this secret so that they can utilize that power to continue to dominate us all you know we can't stand for this we can't stand for this what we have to do is organize we have to educate our people organize our people mobilize our people and put people into positions of authority inside our constitutional structures here in the united states in the uk in all of the democratic countries around the world to shut down the national security states okay not only here but in the eastern bloc countries of russia and china where they have responded to the aggressive imperial forces in our in our countries you know to try to establish domination over the planet you know that's it's a very simple thing uh i guess it's not that simple but i mean but it's it is the issue here it is the issue andy that we're dealing with at the root of the ua ufo issue a lot of what you said reminds me of a really famous cartoon and it's the the slave driver standing on the plank of wood off the cliff and the only thing keeping him from falling to his death is the hundreds of slaves standing on the other end of the plank of wood and they just don't have the power the realization to know that you're off you're yeah step off step to the side and he goes they go and whether it's an individual a group a government a corporation a massive secret like the ufo uap it's funny you mentioned dick cheney david grush in his interview on megan kelly a few weeks ago called out dick cheney of course that many folks nickname was darth vader protect cheney as the closest thing he could find to the top of the food chain controlling all of this he talked about multiple factions in the deep state guilty of misinformation he says there have been administrations putting pieces in place to help ease information coming out um talked about the um the grushed saying that former secretary of defenses former presidents have been briefed but it depended on how much deep states trusted each individual president that's right so convoluted and so messy across all of this that right where is the jumping on point for most people again it's it seems a million miles away now at this point from have we got an alien civilization visiting us from another planet it's a question almost forgotten and even i almost did till you brought up the idea that we have an entire we have entire galactic civilizations around our solar system as you put it yes it's being kept from us as a society as a civilization it's crazy yes well it's not it's not crazy uh it's a there's a certain type of uh mental illness that that isn't full-scale crazy it isn't clinical crazy what what it is is it's it's uh part of the nature of our human species uh is that we we succumb to these powerful individual people with charisma and who are smart and articulate and stuff like this and people lay back and kind of let them assert their power uh subconscious want for that to be there but you almost there's an element of society that wants to be controlled and you want the hierarchy you want the power systems in place sure because there's a comfort comfort within that there's a safety blanket of i know i go to my job i get this much money i work these many hours here's my free time i can pay for this i can't pay for that now and again you get to break into the next level of money of wealth of power of status and you work your way up sometimes you work your way back down um that's and that's their world and that's their world and it's the public education system that trains people into becoming a cog in the wheels you know of that of that industrial state uh and it's not necessary you know that that we can take power we still have the ability in these democratic societies to take control if in fact we will do our job as citizens uh and the education system doesn't train the people to do that uh they they tell them about the constitution of the united states they tell them about free speech they tell them about a freedom of association of free press and all of that but they don't really do it you know they don't they don't think that's their part to to actually participate in that and it's not a surprise because the public education system is run by the state and the state runs is run by the elite so you have to figure out so people say oh danny you know oh this is so overwhelming you know how do i start i'm telling you how you start you start by getting disclosure about the ufo issue because what that's going to do the fact that they have concealed this for as long as they have and it is of such monumental importance for us knowing where our place is in the universe and it also has access to such incredible technologies that can solve many of our problems we don't have to contaminate our planet with petroleum uh as fuel there's alternative sources of energy you know there are alternative sources that we have access to uh the wealth of the universe you know there's all kinds of asteroids and asteroid belts that have have uh resources and stuff that we can have we don't have to authorize fighting over limited resources on our planet we have access to resources in the entire galaxy you know uh we that that but they want to keep it secret because their entire economic system and their entire elite status of superiority over everybody else is rooted in maintaining the idea that there are limited resources and they're scarce uh and that we get more of them than you get okay uh and so that they're they're they view that the revelation of the fact that this just isn't true that we have access to all these different resources in the galaxy we have access to all of these different technologies that can help solve a lot of our problems here and make our planet a flourishing place for everybody they don't want that they don't want that and they view it as catastrophic quote catastrophic disclosure and they keep trying to pretend oh like that we're going to go jumping out of a first story window or something if all of a sudden we discovered that there's an extraterrestrial civilization that we're not at the apex of all biological evolution in the entire universe you know they they keep on trying to tell people oh the regular people are going to you know you know jump out of windows in in the in despair you know uh and and that's catastrophic as though they care about us at all which they don't you know and so now but all of that having been said you know i'm not proposing that we hunt these people down with pitchforks and torches in the street you know and then draw and quarter them or behead them like in the french revolution you know that that's just chaos all that does is generates another napoleon to rise up to try to establish order or a hitler you know what we what we need to do is exercise our democratic uh authority as citizens but we need to do so pursuant to educating ourselves in organizing ourselves and my job part of my job as the as the general counsel and president of the new paradigm institute is to provide to people an alternative vision of what it looks like you know people people human beings will cling to a sinking ship rather than swim out into an unknown ocean unless they can see another craft near enough by that they can swim to right they will cling to the big and go down with the suction of of the sinking ship you know and so what our job is to provide the other light in the distance the other vessel to come on board but the people have to be willing to swim they have to be willing to step out and let go of the sinking ship and they swim to the new light that's the new paradigm institute that's our job is to do that and but we have to organize and mobilize the structures to get our people working on this because our educational systems are still dominated and controlled by the ruling elite uh and so they don't train you they don't train you to be insurrectionists against this unjust structure the jesuits do the jesuits know that the jesuits were created in 1547 inside the roman catholic church to try to reform the catholic church because it becomes so corrupted uh and so degenerate you know uh and that was their assignment uh and the fact is that i was fortunate enough to get recruited at i was at harvard divinity school after finishing at the college in the law school when i went out into the world and started discovering what the world was really like you know uh you know by doing the pentagon papers and getting to read all 47 volumes of the pentagon papers and discovering all the illegal drug smuggling the assassination program in the phoenix program etc when i really realized how awful this was and then was at f lee bailey's office in the watergate hotel and came to discover what the secrets were behind the assassination of our president uh and that people knew what was really going on when i started to discover all of that i said whoa wait a second here you know things are completely different than i'd been taught you know i was i was convinced that that our government was a little bit out of tune you know and i thought that by becoming a lawyer i could help retune our government to get back into kind of a more fair system but i discovered when i got out into the world from harvard law school our government and wasn't functioning just a little bit out of tune it was playing an entirely different song than we had been trained in the in the public school system to believe they were engaged in they weren't trying to bring democracy to the world they weren't trying to bring and protect human rights around the world they were attempting to establish full spectrum military dominance over the planet so they could maintain their continued privileged access to the strategic raw materials for our corporations you know which was the absolute definition of fascism you know that is what mussolini in his 1933 essay on fascism wrote about fascism is putting at putting all of the instrumentalities of the government at the disposal of the interests of the privately owned corporations that's what fascism is and it entails authoritarianism in order to effectuate that objective but that's what it is okay and then i discovered that in fact it was brown brothers harriman one of the major private investment groups run by george herbert walker the grandfather of george herbert walker bush uh was the ceo of brown brothers harriman private investment company which was the nest and of all of these these robber barons that arose in the in the late 1800s after the american civil war uh and that they were all these these investment guys or all together they're the ones that secretly financed the rise of the fascist government in germany the brown brothers harriman the the ceo of brown brothers harriman george herbert walker left the the the the the investment firm in 1924 turned over control to his son-in-law uh prescott bush and went and set up the union bank of new york uh and they capitalized it with the money of the rich people that were investors in brown brothers harriman a collective investment group right and they created the union bank of new york they set up a foreign subsidiary up in the netherlands called the bank of shipping and commerce that for its thighs and ran for them they financed the construction of the international headquarters of the third right to set up the the fascist government in germany to be the bulwark against bolshevism in europe that was what that's who did it and so when i when i discovered that i said whoa hold on here hold on here uh this is this is so different than what i thought it was i've got to go back i've got to go back to to the university and study about all this stuff and so i ended up going back i went and had a long discussion with john rawls the head of the department of philosophy at harvard university he recommended that i come back and do a phd uh in in comparative social ethics you know comparative worldviews and so that's what i did and that's where i was when i got recruited to become general counsel at the jesuit national headquarters for the jesuit order in their social ministry office in washington dc and then i had access to all kinds of information that started giving you a much wider perspective on what was really happening in the world and that's what i've been doing i mean my whole my whole legal practice uh if you can call it that you know uh has been representing individuals who are in a pivotal position to be able to start to deconstruct the structural sources of injustice on our planet uh including the catholic church by the way you know and that's what francis was trying to do and that's what leo is going to be doing so we all we all have allies we have allies here so what i've got to do is get back over to the vatican talk with the people around leo uh and get him to come forward starting to reveal a lot of the secrets that the catholic church knows about this you know uh and participate in adjusting the economic and geopolitical and cultural and religious institutions on our planet to prepare for assimilating this information from the galactic civilization so we can become citizens of our galaxy and get out of the trap that is pushing us toward thermonuclear self-destruction that's why the that's why the the atomic bulletin of atomic scientists just one week ago you know moved the whole doomsday clock up to 85 seconds before midnight because to today yeah today the start treaty expires the strategic just seen the news the news on that yeah well for the that's the first time since nuclear weapon proliferation began that there there's no no limitation on how many nuclear weapons the us and russia can have no limitations and so you know exactly what the major corporations are going to do they're going to lean into donald trump and say look we've got a multi-billion dollar industry here building a massive new generation of thermonuclear weapons and their delivery systems which they're getting from the ufo technology that they've they're there that's the whole point of the the ufo technology they're trying to use the propulsion system and the energy source as a delivery platform for nuclear weapons so they can not only establish and maintain full military spectrum dominance over the planet but they can have the threat of first strike capability that they can instantaneously transport a nuclear payload into the heart of russia or china so they can back them off you know uh and and we cannot allow this to happen i mean this this is almost a uh a a metaphysical moment a metaphysical moment that our human family is at here of having this opportunity to do something about this you know people people you know if we survive you know another decade people are going to look back at us that are all here now and say what did you do what did you do when you came to realize the the scale of what the problem is here what did you do you cuddled down on your couch and eat potato chips and just watch the super bowl you know uh no you know i'm going to be flying all weekend during the super bowl game to go and meet with people on an investigative level to find out more about what we can do here and other people need to be willing to do things like that you know i'm not saying that you have to spend you know 20 hours of your day you know reading about all this stuff all you have to do is contact the new paradigm institute contact with the new new paradigm institute.org and get all the information we've got it packaged uh you know laid out differing levels of knowledge that you can have about all of this differing degrees of commitment and become a member of citizens for disclosure you know in your state and in your local congressional district and uh and we will move those of us inside the united states will move and exercise our responsibility to help protect our planet to help protect our species you know to help stop us from self-destructing with thermonuclear weapons over this pretended fight over the rare in in uh and uh you know limited resources on our planet so that we can enrich our citizens you know our regular working class citizens so they live like kings and queens lived back in the middle ages you know i mean with all the whining of people you know having to worry about the cost of eggs and you know i mean people are going to their refrigerator and opening the thing and walking down the street to the supermarket and getting anything they want you know uh we've we've got this is a this is a uh a uh metanoia moment you know where we we have to have a metanoia experience of all of a sudden the the scales falling from our eyes and saying holy mackerel look what's really going on here but not saying oh i'm going to jump out of a first story window or i'm going to sit and wring my hands and worry about what's what i can do i'm telling you what you can do we're doing all of the work trying to set up a structure that you can insert yourself into and participate in this not just in the united states but in the uk and any all your listening audience you know every single person who listens to this ought to go out and get five of their friends and bring them over to their house and replay this and they can put it on slow so they can because they can understand what the details what is exactly he's saying here you know just take it slow step by step by step and contact new paradigm institute.org on the internet and become a citizen for disclosure in your country you know uh as well as those in the united states and get your parliaments to do something about this you know this is this has to happen now and it's on a fairly short fuse here because you know we're at 85 seconds to midnight if you add up all the total seconds in a 24-hour day and figure out what percentage of that is 85 seconds you know basically a minute and a half you know we we are 99.9 percent on the peak of thermonuclear self-destruction that's what we're being let me let me let me sidebar slightly on that then okay and i'm not going to i'm not going to say this as the human race's fault to get where we are but given the totality of what you have said that the masses that the 99.9 percent of us are being held down manipulated by a tiny not even 0.1 percent not point not not not one percent and even more zeros than that that's right we've got this galactic federation we have this we have these any number of life forms around us that are aware of us that are visiting that we i say we that governments and contractors have their craft have the bodies of the pilots of these craft have the knowledge of these beings that have likely it seems met these beings yes where is the responsibility of them to get involved i i look at it and if you want to look at it if i see my children playing with cutlery on the sitting room floor fine if i see them playing with forks and spoons okay if they start picking up knives i have to work out okay those knives sharp enough to do any damage yeah i then have a responsibility as a parent and someone who knows better if they start if my four-year-old harry starts to stick a fork in the electrical socket yeah i should step in and stop him i shouldn't go well he's got to learn the hard way there comes a point so at what point do these higher intelligences with better technologies that have seemingly and you can correct me if i'm wrong here allowed us to commandeer these technologies and work on them with the purpose of taking thermonuclear payloads to russia to china to the us as i'm sure the other um superpowers are trying to do yeah what point did they step in and why haven't they done so yet it's there you are we're at the 64 question right okay what's the story here you know why why are they not intervening uh in this you know they are intervening they're intervening in a soft way you know by they're they're coming and visiting people there tens of thousands of people i i assume over time that have had direct face-to-face encounters with and the thing they keep saying telepathically is get your people to stop the thermonuclear weapons they say it over and over again you know but danny i'll i'll argue for the real skeptics that are listening okay because i do i do see both sides of that and i i get the frustration here as well for them because a lot of folks and even the public would say well why not just come out and say no and i'm thinking of that point at the end of the matrix where neo just puts his hand up to the bullets and goes no and they stop and they drop and that's it the agents no longer these big and powerful agents no longer have the power over neo he realizes what he is where he is and he needed that moment one of these species rather than going out to the middle of north carolina to texas to hoboken new jersey and speaking to one terrified citizen in the middle of the night on board a craft and giving them a piece of information that most aren't going to believe give us a phoenix lights 2026 yeah fly something right over a major city now and give us a message to the masses of one city that's still such a small percentage of the population but do that rather than the odd person because even even like with this platform if i if i leave this shed tonight danny and there's a triangular ufo over my head i can jump straight back in here and live stream and be like folks i saw a massive ufo tonight i've had a message most folk won't believe me i know it let me let me let me answer the question let me answer the question is why i think they don't do that and this is the exact question that i was asked sitting at a table with lou elizondo and the couple guys that were actually part of his staff in atip right uh we had we had just been over meeting with the inspector general the defense department next to the pentagon and we went over to this little restaurant uh that they knew uh the people that owned it and it wasn't quite open for uh uh dinner yet we were sitting there and one of the guys on the staff very frustrated like this said look at why is it these beings don't just come down and land in some public place and tell us you know to to and help get rid of the nuclear weapons and help so why did they don't just do that uh and they turned to me and asked me what i thought as you know legal counsel the jesuit headquarters you know which is how they kind of perceived me you know and and i said look uh let me tell you what i think the answer is you know there is the the story about a young boy who loved butterflies uh and he had this big collection of different kind of butterflies he had this big mesh out in his backyard where the butterflies lived inside and flew all around and he wanted to get a perfect example of a monarch butterfly and he searched all around he found a little cocoon of a monarch butterfly and he brought it home and he put it in a little box with cotton in it and put a little light on it to keep it warm and watched it every day watch this whole process go through and there came a point in time when the the uh butterfly inside the cocoon was trying to break out and he was struggling struggling with his wings trying to break out of the cocoon and he got all out of the thing except for like one last little silken thread that was holding him and he was struggling and struggling and struggling against this and the little boy kept watching this and he became so sad about and felt so sorry for the butterfly he went and got a little pair of scissors he clipped the last silken thread and the butterfly came free and it was an absolutely perfect specimen of a monarch butterfly except that it could never fly because as it turns out uh the struggling against that last silken thread in the wings it was exactly what was essential to build the muscle structure that the butterfly needed to fly and he was never able to fly so we are at that moment right now we are struggling against the last silken threads that we have woven around ourselves as a human family and we're struggling against that and the challenge to us the challenge to us is to to not give into the temptation of asking them to come down and cut the last uh silken thread that we're struggling against we have to struggle against the structures of injustice that we see in front of us and everybody has a sense of and figure out how to rise up ourselves and and and break out of this cocoon and and break out of the cocoon of the confinement of our own planet uh and and and see that we can fly into the into the stars with these other other beings and become part of that that's what's happening right now that is the very struggle that we're all engaged in right now and it's very uncomfortable you know and it's it's it's stressful struggling struggling flapping flapping against the these threads that we've woven around ourselves but the message is around everywhere you know the the bulletin of atomic scientists are telling us everybody's trying to tell us okay we have to do this we have to struggle and break this last set of silken threads and and that's what that's why i think they aren't intervening and i think what they're doing my own personal opinion of why they're coming and going here and why they've been doing this for this period of time i believe that they are harvesting genetic material on our planet our planet earth is one of the comparatively rare planets in the galaxy that actually gestates life you know there are obviously others because they've gestated these other these other species okay but but it's comparatively rare and our planet gestates life and what they're doing is they're they're harvesting the the genetic material the flora and the fauna and even human genetic material to be potentially seeding life elsewhere in the galaxy on planets there are able to sustain life but aren't quite able to gestate life yet okay and and and this is what this is what oscar told me you know oscar uh what was his name oscar uh i'll think of his last name but on his deathbed uh the fellow who was uh oscar what the heck is his name anyway but that he called me he was on his deathbed he was a a uh a uh a uh a clerk typist in the united states army assigned to project blue book right and he was assigned to the unit that was supposed to deal with the 700 uh cases that they just couldn't explain away at all there were too many witnesses there were too many photographs in the and so that he was assigned to this uh to the to this uh uh unit and he was just the clerk typist uh and investigators would come and would go from this unit and he remained along with the commander the commander was uh it was had an assignment to go to s4 to area 51 and to go to s4 and invited oscar to come with him okay and he went with him to to area 51 they took him to s4 and they went down down down many floor levels and he went in there and they actually had more than one ufo there which he saw okay and he went into this room and here was this big uh room of artificial room built and it had a two-way mirror and there was an et guy there there was an et standing in there and they put this little jumpsuit on him uh and he was in it and in oscar's commander of the special unit of project blue book it was dealing with the 700 unacknowledged sightings he went into the the room to meet with to meet with this being and that was having telepathic communications with him oscar was afraid of it he he thought that the being was demonic he was a fundamentalist he belonged to this thing called the worldwide church of christ that it was a real heavy fundamentalist he thought it was demonic he didn't want to go in the room so he stayed out there and the guys that were there attending to this guy and had this this card catalog these cards with notes on it from interviews that they conducted with the et person volunteer he was voluntarily talking communicating with them right and one of the questions they asked him they said you know who is it who are you what are you doing here and he said oh i am he he told them telepathically they took down the notes on the card that that i am part of this this group that has been tasked to go around the galaxy monitoring life that has developed on these rare planets uh and earth is one of them and so i've we've been monitoring these things and keeping a record of what's going on and then they did a follow-up question and they said well who assigned you to do this you know who's in charge here and he said oh uh you people would consider it to be god but it's very very different than you think see that that's the kind of stuff that is so hard to comprehend that can go on and i believe that it does and yet on the other side of it you've got these elites and globalists who are keeping technology and information to themselves yeah which i think was it dylan borland whistleblower dylan borland who who said that the the beings themselves aren't the great secret being kept it's the technology in which to your point it's that military industrial intelligence complex sure they want the the ability to deliver payloads of nuclear weapons because if the us get that first and they can fly a tic tac right over china and beijing or right over moscow within seconds it's half we've won they don't even have to do it they just need the others to know we can do it so stop what you're doing which leads me to think they don't have quite the technology that we would think they do um listen danny you've promised nearly 90 minutes here um we've dived all over um we'll wrap up there i want to give you i know you've mentioned the new paradigm institute.org website the links will be in the description but do you want to give one final rallying call to to what you want folks to do because just from my last point of view it seems like we are in that moment this year could be that moment and i'm not doing the whole disclosures coming there's enough that happens not on the horizon but it just seems that our choices people can make i know there are things happening in the background as there always is but remember folks when we see a lot of these whistleblowers come forward what we're hearing especially on the the george knapp and jerry mccorbell platform weaponized we hear dylan borland we hear matthew brown we hear david rush talk about how the first time you hear from them is the third or fourth year of their journey trying to come forward so when you think about right now the people going through those processes trying to come forward trying to do their work doing things in the background right now that stuff is happening and people can help them get that information out there through organizations like new paradigm institute the collective goods do you want to do that last pitch then danny in your own unique way sure no no that that what i'm saying is that that all the people need to do who are kind of befuddled by what's all going on right now and why it isn't happening faster you know what you need to do is contact on the internet new paradigm institute.org and you become you can become a member of new paradigm institute uh and you can get regular weekly bulletins that are coming through to you it's all free it's no charge on this if you want to become a member uh and sign up for like five dollars a year or something like that you know to to help defray some of the costs of the things that we're doing but you know that you can get free services and get all of this information okay and you can become a member of citizens for disclosure in your own country in your own state in your own congressional district here stateside in your own country around the world uh and you can move to start getting people into positions of power in the parliaments uh and in your legislatures who can demand that whatever the governments in your country know about that they release this okay and that we do this here in the united states where they have most of this information okay that that's that's what you need to do i don't want p i don't want people to be blown out i don't want people to think that you know like it's like a drink out of a fire hose you know just hosing you down with all of this information you know just take it slow you know uh get record this that this information i've given to you slow it down take it step by step and just listen to it a couple times and it'll it'll you'll start to remember it and we just need to do our job contact new paradigm institute.org become a member of citizens for disclosure and if you choose to become a member of the institute okay and we'll keep you posted and we'll we'll come back uh consistently uh to uh to the show here uh okay uh and uh and and update people on on what what we know all right uh so that that's what that's what i'm asking you to do awesome and danny um i've been asking some of the the bigger guests like yourself over the last few weeks many folks don't like giving predictions or if you want to call them spoilers but what are a couple of things you would expect to see in the ufo topic in 2026 not the new paradigm institute's work right but in terms of what potentially could be hot coming in the pipeline the key the key is going to be the bill that eric burleson uh the congressman from missouri republican very conservative republican from missouri uh who has the portfolio inside the house oversight committee on the ufo issue he is going to be introducing a bill a standalone bill onto the floor of the house uh to demand immediate disclosure of this information to a panel uh board of review to be appointed by the congress to disclose as much information as the congress is willing to do and the congress is much more subject to the pressure from the people to increase the release of information okay that this is this is what's getting ready is the burleson bill is going to be the key uh and he's going to be introducing this here in the second session uh of this 119th congress so it's going to be in 2026 he's going to be introducing this be become familiar with the details of the bill uh as soon as it's introduced uh you know i happen to have a copy of it uh because we're involved in helping drafting it you know so that they know that it does the job you know it's not designed to be immediately passed by every single member of the senate and house who are in the pocket of the the aerospace industry you know but it is what is necessary to get this done uh and we will accelerate the passage of this act as rapidly as we can but we have it to work with we have the act we know what the protections are for the whistleblowers we know what the panel is that's set up to review this we command them to turn it over that all the structure is there okay so so keep your eye on the burleson bill uh and and contact uh congressman eric burleson uh in the congress of the united states wherever you're from tell him that you support his introducing this independent standalone bill to to generate transparency analogous to the bill on epstein excellent danny as always thank you so much for your time we have covered the deep state we have covered 9 11 epstein files gfk and galactic federation that's around us alien beings speaking to people after deathbed confessions we have covered a lot in 90 minutes so as always thank you so much for your time mate and i look forward to speaking to you again very soon terrific andy anytime anytime you call me i'll be here okay thank you so much that's all for this episode of that ufo podcast thank you so much for listening and watching if you enjoyed the show please follow subscribe and leave a rating or review wherever you get your podcast it really helps others find the show if you're watching on youtube hit like subscribe and turn on notifications so you don't miss future episodes you can also support the show directly and 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