DoeNut | Methylene Blucifer, 2026 Ritual Sacrifice, & WiFi Mantis Beings

The planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan, there's clearly maybe something there beyond the realm of man, and until we've thoroughly tested every last close-chested view, I find the more we think we know, the less we really do. Serenity now, higher side chatters, doing the thing from the Sunshine State, I'm Greg Carlwood. And we know the elite have some strange beliefs, and as they try to incept the public into at least some of them, things have been getting much weirder. Elon Musk trolling people about being an alien vampire and making public appearances on ketamine, Peter Thiel doing lectures on the Antichrist and interviews about how transhumanism is a deeply Christian concept, Joe Rogan coming away from his tech bro dinners with the idea that Jesus will likely return, but as an AI, and maybe virgin birth was always code for AI. A new disclosure documentary full of career politicians and military intelligence spooks psychically driving home repeatedly that even though this has all gone on since the 1940s, it's now an immediate national security threat and a new reverse engineering arms race with China is underway. It all just seems a little heavy-handed in attempts to make the sale of their techno-pseudo-religion, and it feels a bit forced from people who aren't even good at forming sentences, let alone closing the deal, on a sales pitch to people who are more worried about their eroding economic conditions in the Epstein list than learning about techno-spirituality from awkward billionaires. It's not exactly a new tactic either, as the parasite ruler classes use the illusion of divinity proximity several times before to accomplish their tyrannical goals, from the Holy Roman Empire to the manifest destiny. Now, after years of harvesting our data, they will present it back to us under the guise of something mystical and spiritual, and imply that they are the new priest-class authority that can shepherd us into the cold, lifeless code of the digital rapture. This does seem to be the way the wind is blowing, so when today's guest, Donut, makes documentaries about manted beings living in the Wi-Fi network and humanity being ritually prepared and blue before the big sacrifice in the upcoming year of the fire horse, I guess I have to listen. If you don't know Donut, get ready. He's a conspiratorial content creator covering everything from occult symbolism, hidden history, and strange events to UFOs, transhumanism, and breakaway civilizations. You can find his interviews and documentaries on YouTube, as well as plenty of good stuff on his Twitter threads and all the rest of it. So let's do what we do. The sugar-coated conspiracy commentator, well-glazed Illuminati guru, and wicked smart ritual revealer, Donut, my man. Welcome to THC. Oh, yo, what up? It's Donut. Thank you so much, Greg. Like I was saying, off air, my intentions when I started my channel was to go on to THC, the higher side chat. So I feel like an accomplishment just being here. I really, really appreciate it. And thank you for that intro. Ah, too kind. You'll have to tell us your magical repertoire because it's working. I like that you brought up the Wi-Fi mantises and the Illuminati horses and all that, and especially the technocracy. Yes. Well, in that intro. Yeah. All the topics that I'm very much invested in researching. Hell yeah, this is going to be a fun one. I know we know some of the same people like Mario from Symbolic Studies and Paranoid American. They're putting together some great stuff, too. And I think I initially just got tagged in some of the same tweets as you. And then I saw this video, the Illuminati stallions, methylene, blucifer, and mind control horses. And that is when I thought I should try to get you on. When you stack the examples as deep as you do, it's hard not to think that there's an agenda there. And I guess we will get into that one. But let me just ask you broadly about your research methodology, your areas of interest, because you do find a way to cover some pretty unique things in a rather crowded space. Sure. Well, Jordan Maxwell was really my introduction to the mysteries. I mean, sure, there's a lot of other things that happened in my life. But stumbling across him covering the symbolism in the occult world and the hidden meanings and symbols just took me on an adventure. And then I found all these other researchers as well. And it's just been a fun journey looking into it. Sure, there's the paranoia that comes, but then you pretty much graduate from the paranoia. And I think that's where society sort of is today with people who weren't listening to you 14 years ago, that they just woke up recently with the whole world being locked down. And so they're kind of starting at, you know, like stage one of awakening, which is you eventually will graduate and you could kind of laugh at everything eventually. So with like mixing in funny stuff like Illuminati stallions is just a poetic way of uncovering the symbols in a fun way. You know, so that's sort of what I do. Yeah. Sometimes I think you're mocking me. I'm not sure. But the research is so deep that I'm like, well, you can't really be mocking it. And also doing this deep diving because you do see these weird tapestries of connections. And so it is just a fun, interesting mix. But let's get into the Illuminati stallions. Most people, I think when you think about a blue horse, they know the demonic red eyed horse statue outside of the Denver airport. But just seeing it again made me curious because I hadn't thought about it in a while. And when I looked up further details, did you know that it stands exactly 32 feet tall? And also the guy who created it was killed by it. A piece of it fell off in his studio and killed him. So these are just weird added details about an old statue. But talk to us about this video of yours in general and how some of these examples do stack up to suggest we're being prepared for a sacrifice in 2026, the year of the fire horse. Yeah. So that video, the Illuminati stallions were piggybacking on all the different Illuminati animals. The symbol of the Illuminati is the owl. When you look at their symbol, you can look at Bohemian Grove. They got that owl and their symbol with the owl. Their spiders don't come near whatever it says. Weaving spiders come not here. Yeah. So there's animals all over these secret societies. So it started off as a fun joke. I literally made the Illuminati dolphins video as a joke. And what kind of got me interested was Robert Anton Wilson's The Illuminati trilogy, how he had the dolphins on it. And I was like, you know what? People are stealing like a lot of my content, which is just natural in the game. I was like, I'm going to make a ridiculous video and watch people steal it. Then the more I started researching it, I'm like, oh, my goodness. There is Illuminati dolphins so much that there's even Illuminati dolphin playing card on the game. And it goes all the way back to like John C. Lily as well and Echo the dolphin. So it was a very fun journey. But there's so many different animals that are very symbolic. The owl, the mantis, they're very much interconnected as a camouflage technique, which is sort of how the Illuminati operates, is through camouflaging. And the stallions was just another addition before the year of the horse that we're entering into. How can I make an a horse video, an Illuminati horse video? And so we just deep dive into all the strange phenomenon surrounding horses. So everyone knows Plato's cave, you know, where they show the horses as the puppets in the shadows. But he has another story that's even more important of the two horses. And then you have the divine twins, which is like a symbol of the two horses. And then you got the freaking Knights Templars riding on a horse. So the symbol of the horse is just like crazy when it comes to looking into the Illuminati. Even as much as going into Eyes Wide Shut, like that film, they have horses like all throughout it. Because in 007 and other shows like the Squid Games, they show the importance of the elite and horses and betting on humans as horses. That's even like a quote in the Squid Games. Like, I'm not a horse or something like that. And they're wearing a horse mask. And it's very symbolic. And I kind of go down these weird roads where it's like, what's the strangest thing I could find? And one thing that was strange was the scene in Eyes Wide Shut where she was recounting her dream. A dream, right? Her dream, right? It was an erotic dream. And Stanley Kubrick hired an artist to draw it out. And he drew them doing it like on a horse. And so like even the horse symbolism, riding it wild and free is very symbolic. And we see that in old Bosch paintings. I think that's how you pronounce the artist name where people are riding the horse nude. Right. And let me throw in a few more things because it starts with a kind of a silly premise. And maybe this is a lesson in just how connected everything really is. But the blue, the color blue and horses. So obviously COVID, ivermectin was a huge thing. The horse paste, methylene blue. We had this video of RFK Jr. putting it in his drink and it went viral. Like things I don't think go viral unless they want them to. So you have this video that all the news networks cover. And then there's a reaction from the alternative health community about methylene blue. Everyone's got their methylene blue videos out. Then there's this video of Elon, like looking off into space that I mentioned in the intro there. And he's supposed to be on ketamine. What is ketamine? A horse tranquilizer. So horse paste, horse tranquilizer and methylene blue. Then the blue stuff is crazy because I didn't know this, but the video talks about blue being not only the color of transformation alchemically, but the Maya painted their sacrifices blue. And even in Apocalypto, if you watch that movie, they paint the sacrifices blue. Then you got blue light from the screens, the directed energy weapons and Maui. They seem to spare things that were painted blue cars and roofs and houses that were painted blue were not affected by these laser beams or whatever. And it's just really crazy. So then it goes on further that earlier this year, Beyonce had a tour and what did she feature and the tour, but a giant 30 foot horse statue that's blue that is coming out of a portal. I actually can share that. My sharing of things is a little clunky, but my editor is going to make it nice. Yes. Yeah. And so those symbols of the horses with Beyonce and Megan Thee Stallion and Cardi B, it's all intertwined in the blue horse as well at the ancient Maya, the sacrifices, painting them blue and tying it in. And this methylene blue, why is it pushed so hard everywhere? It literally turns people's brains blue when they take it. So I was like, well, if there's a connection here, it was sort of a viral story because as you see, look at that thing, it's going right through a portal. Yeah. Yeah. That's also important is these fricking portals, like not just the horses, but the portals are very, very important symbolically. Yes. Another weird one, because Katy Perry has been used as a figurehead in these rituals before. I think it was her who came into the VMAs on a big lion in a red dress and everyone's like, oh, that's the whore of Babylon being invoked right there. Well, she made the news this year. Why? Because she did that blue origin flight. And in her dark horse video, the men are painted blue. So Katy Perry right there, blue origin, dark horse, men painted blue, the wicked movie. The second one comes out this year. There's a character who rides a blue horse in that movie. I didn't even know that until. Oh, wow. I was looking at blue horse images before this started and I saw like a beanie baby and I clicked on that and it said, oh, this is merch from wicked. And then I had to figure out why. And that is why. And then I thought beanie babies, isn't the princess Diana teddy bear blue. I could be making that up. It might be white. Yeah, no, I remember that. Yeah, she was a sacrifice. So if it is blue, that's an interesting one. But then you go on to say the Jonestown Kool-Aid was actually blue. The Heaven's Gate cult had a transfiguration diet. They were all obsessed with blueberries and they ate blueberry cheesecake before they died. So again, blue and sacrifice and death is right there. Man, I really think you found some good stuff. And then in terms of them preparing us, you know, that's the case that's being made. There's this weird Twitter trend of dying your tongue blue and then showing it off. I don't know why it didn't start with methylene blue, but you do point out that that actually will turn your brain blue. But like, here's some images of it. It's also really interesting because there's a lizard that you see in here called the blue tongue skink. So again, it harkens back to lizard people. These challenges are massive rituals for the collective on the algorithms, right? So like when it comes to these rituals, what are they doing? You got all the different presidents and Bill and all these different people that are very, very powerful billionaires baptizing themselves in ice bucket challenges. What's this all about? You know, so when these viral trends happen, it is on purpose. Like there's a reason why the algorithms are pushing it. Like if it wasn't supposed to be seen, it wouldn't be seen. But things get pushed for definitely a reason. And another thing on the blue, you're talking about Hawaii, that even California most recently, the only thing that survived it was a blue van, which happened to be a WEF van that survived it as a signal of hope, you know, so it does dive deep. And even the guy who created the methylene blue, there's a picture of him. His name's Cairo, I believe. And he's doing the Masonic hidden hand symbol too. So you even got secret society elements in it. So when I'm looking at stuff, it is my RAS reticular activation system looking for symbols. So I'm seeking it out. Somebody might see a number all the time. So they keep seeing that number or they're shopping for a Jeep and they see a Jeep everywhere. I'm always looking for symbols, which is cool. And right there, like during the Olympics, you got the Bacchus ritual with the blue guy. For audio listeners, I just pulled it up. But yeah, one of the other big things is when they had the Olympics ritual and it was all about like everybody was going crazy about why LTGQ stuff was injected into the Olympic ceremonies. The big one was this guy in blue, totally head to toe painted blue on a dinner platter. Like they mocked the Last Supper is what a lot of people were saying. But if you watch old cartoons where like a tribe worships some person as a God and then they find themselves being prepared, like, oh, wait, what the energy really shifted here. That's what that looks like. It looks like the guy is being presented as dinner as the roast beast from the Grinch. So, yeah, when Beyonce is doing something, when it's injected into the Olympics, when it's in the biggest movie of the year, I pay attention. I don't know what it means, but blue and also the Twitter trend. Yeah, it just stacks up. But blue and horses coming up on the year of the horse. It does seem like with this image in particular, with the guy being presented as dinner, sacrifice is on the table. Have you come to any conclusions about what that could mean besides, you know, where I am, which is like there's something here. But what is it? Yeah, so, you know, I've just studied the technocracy. I study the symbolism. I study the secret societies. And then I kind of add that into this pattern recognition of like, why is this happening? These portals and these blue horses like that Beyonce horse was freaking blue going through a portal. And I've uncovered that these portals are very, very important as well, symbolically, like these gateways, right? You got all these different gates, even the word Bob, right? B-A-B means gate. And you got bobble and bobble on. And so I'm just tying in all these different things. This is kind of what I like to look into is the etymology and, and all of that. But the Superbowl or the superb owl, right? The owl symbolism, going back to that, that is like super important. Even in the show Twin Peaks, they show this owl part of, you know, this that can like be invisible in the cap of Minerva, the invisibility cap and connected to Athena. Like there's the owl symbolism. So these symbols of these different animals are like ancient, like, and they, they mean something, maybe not to us, but they mean something. So with the Superbowl being like the superb owl, they do the halftime show and we're hearing about Sidney Sweeney's great genes, and those are those blue denim jeans. And I think that there's something to the blue with transhumanism. When you look at all these different rituals at the Superbowl, which is like the biggest ritual is that they put on this halftime show, like where we saw Katy Perry being identical to Ishtar riding the lion, just like Ishtar rides the lion, like in those images that they're showing from the lockdowns with the weekend, all the way to now these fertility rituals. And it's always been red and white for the last like five years. And they recently put in blue into the color coding of these Superbowl rituals with Kendrick Lamar rapping about, he's got loyalty in his DNA as he's wearing these bell-bottom jeans. And I believe the blue is representing like the new, like piece of the new human being built right now, like going into like transhuman stuff. So I think there's a lot to it. There's, there's so many different like portals that go through, but it's all fascinating, but that's kind of where my mind's going right now. Right on. Yes. And then, uh, I have done interviews in the past talking about the medical applications and the, the value of the blue blood of the horseshoe crab. And you mentioned that in there too. I mean, just the elite being called blue bloods, there is something there. Also the, so the biggest movie of the year right now is probably wicked features a blue horse. The biggest movie by the end of the year will be avatar featuring blue people. Right. You, you also note that the psyop branch of the army, the insignia is a night from the game chess, which is a horse. So, yeah, I don't know, but I do like just the more you can stack up. It gets pretty crazy. So in terms of, we'll go ahead, go ahead. No, it's just the, it's the animals in general, just looking at all the animals, like the frog, right? We got the structure of magic and the chaos magic and memetic magic or the dog, right? The doge coin, which is really bringing in the, you know, masses into blockchain technology. Nothing sold them until a meme did. And you could even say that president Trump became the most powerful person hypothetically because of memes. So the frog is like a huge thing as well. So there's so many different animals and that's what I, you know, it's crazy. Right. Well, when you strip away all the tech and all the modern stuff, I mean, what's left, you know, animals and nature. So of course, like if these belief systems and secret societies go back centuries, then that's what they had to go on. So I know you did a live stream with Mario from symbolic studies that went pretty deep on the new economist cover. People in our world are always looking at the cover of the economist for symbolism. And, you know, this one's quite crazy and it's just a wild tapestry of symbols, syringes, rockets, tanks, missiles, robots. And just, it invokes to me, total chaos. You know, it seems like they're going to, they're saying that they're going to be throwing so many things at us. It's hard to focus on any one thing that's been true for a while now, but you called the video 2026 black Swan astrology, the Scorpio event. No one is ready for with symbolic studies. Do you recall what that black Swan event is supposed to be? Because as we're getting to the end of this year and we're talking about what's going to be upcoming in 2026, along with the potential preparation of a sacrifice, it seems like if there would be an astrological window for something like that to occur, a Scorpio event, you know, that sends up a red flags to me. Right. Well, these are like very clickbait titles, right? You got to get the views, you know, if you don't do a clickbait, you can't get a view, you know, so it's sort of, that's why I'm stuck in the lower middle. You got to just write something like crazy. That's like what people like, you know, I have to run my titles by you and you can jazz them up for me. It goes into what Marshall McLuhan talks about. And I haven't even read Marshall McLuhan yet, but this is what I've heard is that when you put people in a survival mode through these titles and makes them feel special, like, oh my goodness, I'm so important. I'm in the survival mode. So people like that. So it's very psychological the way that the YouTube videos and the news works and why do we participate at what keeps me addicted to the for you section on X, which is only going to aggravate me. But why do I keep going back to it? You know, there's something wrong with me or I'm like, why do I like being so pissed off all the time? But that video in my head, what I was kind of thinking about before talking to Mario, because he breaks down the symbolism, it seems like there'll be some sort of financial black swan, but that's where I'm coming from, kind of what I'm thinking. But I don't think it's going to be like a massive crash or something. I think something like a credit crunch where it's a 30 year ritual, like what happened in Japan. So like people invested in Japan and their stock market, and then for 30 years, it didn't do anything. It just went down and then it went back up and it took 30 years to recover. And I talked to this guy who brought that up. So this is just my gut, you know, feelings and whatnot, because the astrological energy that we're entering into is kind of prime for something like that. Just listening to different astrologers. But I like what Jordan Maxwell says. He's like, I'm just an ordinary guy pursuing extraordinary knowledge, right? So I don't, I don't really know anything. I'm just kind of, I'm a good video editor, so I can edit cool, cool stuff together. But yes, I even sent you a PDF too. If you wanted to show like just slides. Oh, you did. Yeah. Okay. On Twitter. Yeah. I'll grab that then. But I was going to say, cause I like to try to have some kind of answer, even if the guests like who doesn't know what I'm going to ask about doesn't have a specific answer, but I looked up what it could mean, you know, just based on the astrology next year. And most likely it is referring to the Venus retrograde that starts in Scorpio, which is happening on October 3rd of this upcoming year. And according to, um, the search on Scorpio, it will cause a period of reevaluation in areas of love relationships and finances. So you do know what you're talking about. Yeah. Well, I listened to very, very smart, like podcasters and researchers and astrologers. And then I start researching what they're talking about. So he's been pretty good, you know, leaning on the giants in the field. Yes. So obviously we have a little bit of time to wait for that, but it would be interesting to see, to revisit this and see what happens at that time. Also like time magazine, they released this article on the orb. We'll see you now how we're not going to know the difference between AI in reality. And they released that in summertime and they said in six months, and that's like where we're at now. And that's why like all this AI is out and no one knows what's real and what's not like, so they're telling us they're like, it's just like, you know, just like read it. And then you're like, Oh, that's what's happening. And this economist magazine, the year of the lockdowns, it talked about the importance of the aliens and the UFOs, but mostly the octopuses. So speaking of another Illuminati animal, the octopus, they talked about the importance of National UFO Day and the octopuses on Europa. So, yeah, this is just like a PDF slide. I just put a bunch of different pictures on there on different animals. That's at the island where they're. Oh, Epstein Island. And yeah, there's this, obviously it's trendy right now that the Democrats, it's always framed that way. The Democrats have released new images from Epstein Island. And it's like, they're not really new. Some of these are new, but they're boring. Some of them I've also seen before, like the dentist chair that he also had a dentist chair. My understanding is in his New York location. There was also a dentist chair. It was always a creepy detail. So, yeah, there's the Dolphins Illuminati card. I'll try to include these in the show notes for the audio listeners. But yeah, if if it's an Illuminati card in the card game, then, you know, it probably means something somewhere. So, yeah, there's a straight up Dolphin one. So, yeah. So that Dolphin research that John C. Lilly said in a forward to one of his books, this is a guy that went into the deprivation tank. They put these Dolphins onto some psychoactive type, you know, medication, and then they also pleasured them through physical touch. And they were doing it to communicate with the Dolphins. So the Dolphins will go send the message to the whale and the whale would send the message down to Atlantis. And that's why the government was funding him. According to John C. Lilly and one of his forwards in his book and this whole connection with the Dolphins and the aliens, I was just like Mars attacks brain, I believe, is the Dolphin brain. I believe there is a connection to that. But just showing in this symbol is just all these different. Yeah. Right. So Mars attacks, one of my favorite movies when I was a kid, it doesn't hold up exactly. But when I was a kid, I loved it and I couldn't believe that it had such an ensemble cast. And it was Tim Burton, but you have the character, you know, the, the Mars attacks Martian with the giant brain. And you're saying what you, you said, you're saying you think that relates to the Dolphin brain. I mean, right. There's the Dolphin brain. They were doing these studies. Oh, that is a Dolphin brain on the left. Yeah. So they were doing, they were doing the studies on the Dolphin brain because it's most similar to us, um, like in the, with the, I see. Yeah. So for people listening, if you think about that Mars attacks head and the brain, it is a dead ringer for what is a Dolphin brain. So that is interesting. That movie was filmed in my neighborhood growing up in Vegas and they filmed that scene in a mafia home. And we would call that mafia house, the vampire house, because there was no windows in the front. But yeah, no, that was a great, great movie. There's also something predictive in that movie too. Gosh, I'm not going to get it right on the fly, but I don't, they knock over the twin towers or something. Yeah. No, no, actually. I think it's, uh, I think it's related to the harvest festival. I think right where the harvest festival shooting happened, like the UFO shoots a beam right into that spot next to the Luxor, if I recall correctly, but there's a couple of things in that one. Yeah. Which is like in front of a pyramid. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Um, yeah. So yeah, this owl thing's interesting. I just finished reading closer encounters book and it was going over the word, Bob BAB, like in Babylon mean gate and how all these UFOs are connected to portals in a lot of way, these hyper-dimensional portals like the Sargasso sea that, uh, Charles Ford talked about. Um, and that turned into the Bermuda triangle, which is a trapezoid. It's not a triangle, but this character in Twin Peaks, his name's Bob. He is the demon who comes through with the portal. Basically. He comes to a portal and I guess he turns into an owl as well. Yeah. The owls are not what they seem big theme in Twin Peaks. And then of course you have Lom with an owl face and it is a pretty good match. And this is that note movie, right? Just kind of showing the symbols of more alien stuff, which shows the horses being abducted. Have you seen this film? I have, I saw Nope. It's cinematically very interesting, but plot wise, I felt like it was super slow. Although in my memory, there's some really interesting things with the chimpanzee that stick out, but I guess I was just sitting there like kind of on the edge of my seat waiting for something. And it's actually, it's a quite slow moving film, but I do think there's some depth in this depiction of otherworldly intelligences and what a UFO might be and that kind of thing. It's, it's interesting. Yeah. So like the, the ending, it shows the UFO there. Yeah. That's what, and it looks just like an octopus, you know, which is a big part of the alien story that's coming out is like these octopuses are aliens from another planet, right? There's an owl hidden on the $1 bill. We know that. Oh, so right here's the economist magazine. Wow. That's it. Mirrored image on each other. I mirrored it and then I flipped it upside down and it looks like an octopus at the very top because there's eight tentacles because octo is eight, just like how October was the eighth month, but now it's 10. That is interesting, man. So yeah, if you take the economist cover from this upcoming season and you, you flip it and you mirror image and overlay it, I mean, it makes a pentagram right there. Look at that. Yeah. There's the pentagram right dead center. Usually when you do this, it always has some crazy stuff. But like, if you look at the Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band album and you do that, it shows like the OTO symbolism with Crowley and all that. So like, it is definitely something there, you know? Yeah. I like that. The steganography. And so, okay. The right there, the cloud thing is interesting. Right there is just like in the Old Testament and Exodus, how the sea was split. I didn't know, like it was through a cloud. So just like the clouds play a huge role. Like if we're tying the whole UFO agenda, even going back to all the different religions, there's always like this cloud that's connected, which is like a UFO. So let's take a break from the visuals because so many people are audio listeners. Yeah. I just, I just threw that up there. I thought it was. No, really great. So I also, this is a lot more mundane, I suppose, but certainly in the news, I wanted to ask you about Venezuela because I think everybody knows about these boat strikes that are apparently drug smugglers. Of course, there's really no way to know, just trust the system. Now, usually they wouldn't even release military strike footage like this, but they seem to be throwing it all over the news and, uh, that alone is kind of odd, but you recently shared an older video of yours and said in the beginning of last year, here's a video where I said, little Venice slash Venezuela was going to be important on the world stage and watch out for Venezuela to be used in the scripted reality. Obviously that was a good call. What did you see that made you think that Venezuela would be part of the script this year? It's a mixture of two things. I studied geopolitics before this channel, like a donut and Venezuela has always been on the news frame before politics became popular in 2016 that they, America would try to replace Maduro with our own people. So I've always been looking at that and geopolitically, and this is very unpopular talk about. I get a lot of backlash, but this is just how, when I was studying geopolitics, this is just well known that I, I ran the BRICS nation, like pretty much I ran though. The Venezuela was a proxy, just like North Korea is a proxy for China, you know, uh, and it's right on our border. So right there, you got all of these different organizations that are there. So that's kind of what I was looking at. So I knew the importance of where it's, where it's at. And then on the Economist magazine, speaking of the Economist magazine, it showed Trump as a shadow, as an eclipse, because he's very much connected to the eclipse symbolism in astrology. I think he was born on an eclipse showing him going towards America, his shadow in his mouth was on like South America. And I tied it into like some, like black, like some blackout kind of stuff. But I said, but make sure the top thing is Venezuela, just because of, I understand like how that is just big part of the chess game of what's going on. Very interesting. Another tweet I wanted to ask you about getting more into the, back into the esoteric stuff. You say six years ago was the beginning of the two year rituals. Each ritual will target specific groups and implement existential threat. Divide the masses by these two year rituals of Lush, then conquer. Elaborate on what you're saying there. What are some examples of these two year rituals that target specific groups? So during the lockdown, that would have been a ritual for the whole world collectively. Every single government shook hands and said, yes, let's do this. Let's reset the system and bring in the AI or whatever the plan was. Then there's certain groups that get targeted to get loosed, to get emotionally like freaked out, usually an existential threat. So we saw BLM, right? That was like a two year thing during the lockdowns as well. Then you had the Chinese like PSYOPs going on there. Everyone blaming them. Then you have the ICE stuff where it's like, oh, if you're Mexican, oh my goodness. And then the last two years we had October 7th. And so that's when I actually felt that because I'm Jewish and I felt, I was like, uh-oh, uh-oh. Yeah. And I'm proud of it. I'll say it on all the podcasts. That's how you know all this stuff. It's in the meetings. Yeah. And, but I, even someone who's like, doesn't like, understands how the system's playing. I was like, oh, wow. Okay. Like I, I didn't watch the news for like a year and then dive into it, but that lasted two years as well where they ended it. So it's always targeting different groups and it's important to understand how one feels because this is something that has been removed from our society with the rise of narcissism and whatnot, which is just killing the emotions and killing the self and also all of the push of big pharma, like suppressing the anxieties and the fears and all of this. And also, uh, facts over feelings, you know, like Ben Shapiro says, like the feelings play a big role into our own like ecosystem of who we are and being in tune with that is absolutely important to understand kind of what, what's happening. Uh, a lot of people aren't because they're getting pushed by the media, all the different alcohols and all the different, you know, mind altering stuff substances. So one can't even feel how they're feeling and Wilhelm Reich talked about it as well and Alexander Lohan. And so it's the two year rituals is each group's going to get loose. Like even I was like very affected by this as someone who even knows what's going on and it's still like affects me. So there's a difference between mind control and imprinting. So MK ultra, they did mind control and people were able to shake out of the mind control. If they had a solid belief system and like a structure of who they are, you know, through whatever it is, they could shake it off. But the belief system is interesting because it's in our autonomic nervous system. It's not like in our mind where we can't even point where the mind is. We think it's in our head, but we don't even know. Like there's no science really to that. And the belief systems, I believe are being altered in a, in a big way through different, you know, uh, belief changing substances is a good way to put the, to put it. Sure. And the, uh, belief systems like your religion or your nationality or your football team, you can't shake this off. Like it's, it's freaking there. It's imprinted in us and it's able to control us. So you show a symbol is able to control, control us like through our belief systems. I don't know if I'm expressing it perfectly. I got to write a book or something to get my thoughts down. Amen. And what you have, but I also wanted to bring up this one here because people might remember, obviously COVID was a big old ritual. And I did a previous interview with Michael Wan about Kobe Bryant and how there is a lot of weird stuff with Kobe Bryant's death. The helicopter crash mirrors a different helicopter crash where a CEO went down. So there's mirroring in it, which is always something to look out for, but we know he was number 33, but I guess I didn't recall how close this was to COVID. And you talk about the Kobe sacrifice being something that kicked off the COVID ritual. Well, yeah, he, he died January of 2020. So right before the COVID kickoff, and of course I was thinking about totally different things at that time, but he was buried in Corona Del Mar cemetery. I mean, that's a major hit. And then if you look at this from your presentation, there is a cartoon. Now you'd have to tell me what cartoon it is if you remember, but there's a cartoon that features Kobe Bryant going down in a helicopter crash and right on the tail of the helicopter is a Freemasonic square and compass. What the hell? So this is the Illuminati PDF. I released this before my wicked smart journey. So I started the channel. I never got views ever. And I started to get views during the lockdown. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to write a quick little PDF and put that out there. So this came out like 2020 early on and a lot of it throughout it got a lot of things right, which is pretty crazy just from the study of geopolitics and also being such a fan of shows like yours and others. The big takeaway that I took away was he died the day of the Grammys and, or the day before. And they did this ritual at the Grammys, just like Whitney Houston died during the Grammys as she was like in a bathtub, right? So while the Grammys was going on, these big figures are passing away. It seems to be very energetic, right? It's like an energetic ritual of sacrifice. And they hung his jerseys up. And if you plus the numbers of his two jerseys, it equals 32. Like you were saying that 32 of the horse who is 32, 32 is like huge symbolism, like on the Jesuit symbol of this sundial. I actually think you find that it's a lot of times there'll be a symbol that is like, it can be seen as 32 or 33, which I think is because of that symbolic 33rd degree that no one's quite sure if it's there or not. The one I always go to is the Mandalay Bay shooting, the harvest festival. He was on the 32nd floor, which is the 33rd. If you count the lobby, which isn't counted on the actual floors. So it's always like it is, but it isn't. And like you're saying, I, so I made him, I just to correct the record here. I said, he was known as being a 33. I'm not a fan of a sports of any kind, really 30, 33 on in his college. Yeah. It was, it was high school. It says here that he was the number 33 and he had the six, six, six workout. I'm assuming that's like, you do this six times this six times. And I don't know what you're referencing there, but yeah, he had a six, six, six workout. That's like, I don't know. Just like how girls have the six, six, six, the six figures, six feet, you know, uh, there's always, Oh, Oh girl. Yeah. Girls want to find a guy who's six feet tall, make six figures. And then, uh, what's the other one? Yeah. I don't know what the other one is, but, but there's like all those things, six inches. I was going to say that, but I was like, that's really like, I don't know. So, but you also mentioned that this guy who was a doctor in China, who was a whistleblower for Corona virus, he died at age 33. Yeah. So right in the beginning of this lockdown, the 33 was all over the place. And I was very, you know, I was smart, but I was also not wicked smart. And I've been on this journey since then to become wicked smart. So I started to research like, what is the Illuminati? What is Freemasonry? And this book was really enlightening. The Philo's reply of Adolf Kennedy, the second in command of the Illuminati. He created the Illuminati. So just diving into the research. So that PDF is fun, I think, because it was sort of where I was at, like a good foundation. But I, over the last few years, I've been working really hard on reading and studying and diving deeper. And it's even more interesting. It's, it's wild. It's wild. But the 33 was all over the place during the lockdowns. It's crazy. I could even, I'll get into some crazy stuff with the 33 is you're saying words. So I don't know if you're going to beep it out, but I've been trying to be good with my wording, but no, no, I don't worry about it. If YouTube cancels me, then that's fine. That's why I kind of manage my own thing. I get really frustrated. I know why, I know why you do it, but sometimes I'm watching your stuff and you scramble a word and I'm like, I don't know what word you were even trying to say, because it's not even like the top five swear words anymore. It's like every word, Nazi, COVID, vaccine. I get why people do it. I hate it, but you can say real words here. Okay. So if you look at the like code of the virus, there's 33 A's in it, which is weird. No one's really talked about it. And if you look at the, the sequence of the code of the virus, it's just like a normal code, like any other type of virus. But then at the very end, it just says a, a, a, a, a, a 33 fricking times. So like, there's like a huge 33, uh, with that lockdown, like on the biggest level with that sequence. Yeah. Very interesting. So before we run out of time in this first hour, I have to go back to mantids in the wifi. I mentioned that. I mentioned that in the intro cannot leave people hanging on something like that. Of course I could make them pay bucks, but I'm not going to do that. We're going to talk about it. So this is also from your book. You write wifi mantis, the praying mantis, alien agenda, three exclamation points, an interdimensional alien species that travels via the wireless fidelity system. The wifi we've put in place here on earth. These beings have been traveling to earth since 2015 to do reconstructive soul surgery on people to heal them from the traumas they have been through and to give them an opportunity to walk the right path. If they choose, they travel time and space through our wireless fidelity, wifi systems to heal our earth before the mass alien interdimensional invasion with the new 5g system. But first let's explain how they traveled through the wifi wifi uses radio frequencies to send signals between devices, which the wifi mantis people travel through. They could travel through AM FM radio, but it was very risky and they've lost many due to the process wifi transmits and receives data in the gigahertz range, which is less risky today because they have perfected it and it's everywhere. So if they needed to abort a mission, it would be rather easy because now every restaurant and household and business has full speed wifi, but with the opening up of the 5g wavelength, it will also be very easy for other interdimensional beings to travel good and evil ones. So they're transmitting their agendas now before it's too late. If they traveled in the seventies, when wifi was actually created by the government's Aloha net, it would have been too risky to get caught in transmission to never return home to their families again. Also, it was a risk to be captured and tortured by the government and used for evil experimental purposes over the last five years, since 2015, of course, you must've wrote this in 2020. They've been traveling to millions of households to do soul surgery on millions of empaths who were broken spiritually from this broken world. They traveled during daytime only because using the wifi system to travel is less risky. They still have plenty of risks getting stuck in a frequency. If a modem goes off or a power outage happens, they use the sun and earth synergy as a backup, a plan B to travel through space and time. If something does go wrong, they enter the atmosphere, reach your internet modem. And when the transmission happens for them to enter into our physical 3d reality, we are put into a deep coma for 10 hours. You are conscious when this is all happening and we'll remember everything that happens, but from all the energy being used in the room, you are asleep during the time you will leave your body and view what is going on from your ceiling, a sort of astral projection, remote viewing, which the governments have been doing for decades now and released declassified documents proving it's true. And then you show a screenshot from, I believe the Stargate project and, uh, how they kind of do have that map that shows like X and Y axis and a head in there. Yeah. It does seem like they've obviously done these kinds of experiments. I don't remember mantids being a part of those documents, but I had to read all this because you've got some very curious detail in here and I want to know how you could know such a thing. I'm so grateful that you even brought that up. Uh, the, the mantis alien. So I'm a big fan of like all the greats, right? I've read all the books, pretty much most of them. He has a lot of books. Yeah. And so this is like, I was like, okay, I'm going to write one. I got to kind of put in something, you know, to make it fun. You know, I sort of was tying it into an actual experience I had, which I consider a dream. It's probably a dream back before I got sober, where I had these three mantises over me and I was hovering above my body, you know, watching them. I was not sober that year and it wasn't until years later that I had the re-account of this happening to me, like years later. And so I was very much interested in the mantis aliens, which I thought I made up. I thought this was something that I created and made up. Turns out that no, that there is a lot of mantis connections to other abductees and stuff like that that's happened to. And I was like, what the heck? Like, I thought I was just making a noble myth, you know, like just the add in some fun stuff. Because at that time I wrote this, this was during the lockdowns. This is when they were setting up this military grade system of the 5G networks and whatnot, which we need because if we don't have it, then it's going to be a national security threat. So it makes sense why they were doing it. But I was also like, I bet you things are going to go through this, like through a portal kind of, you know, so that's just where my mind was at that time. And then on this like last, like, I don't know, 10 years of sobriety, maybe eight years of sobriety. I was told like other people have these encounters and I looked it up and it was identical to what happened to me in my dream with, with these mantises. So I've been collecting as much information I could after I published that. And I was pretty spot on in that because I was just reaccounting my own dream and how I perceived it to be. Although I did do it as a, you know, a fiction kind of blended in with it just to make it, you know, exciting and fun. But this is... I appreciate you admitting that. I mean, you mentioned Robert Anton Wilson earlier. And yes, your stuff has a real Robert Anton Wilson vibe because I could never tell if he's disclosing something or fucking with me. And that can be quite annoying, but his material was so dense that he would list all these real connections to Sirius and certain dates. And then he's just kind of like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe the Illuminati's arranging all this. And that's where it's just like, well, we don't know what the implications of the conclusion is about who's behind this stuff, but the actual data points are the data points. But you're talking about Wi-Fi here. I mean, I will admit, yes, mantids, having gone through that material, probably the top three things people see are grays, mantids, and tall whites. And we'll get into the tall whites in the second hour here for sure. Maybe Barron Trump's one of them. But why the association with Wi-Fi? Is this the part where you're just throwing it out there, or is there an actual reason to say such a thing? Well, just the Wi-Fi is not as strong as a signal. And so in my head, I was like, you know, if the 5G signal is way more powerful, anything could like go through this. And so I don't know, it was totally nuts when I was writing, writing out that time. But there is a connection to like AM, FM radio and signals with souls and television and the noise and the frequencies. And I'm very open to that. And I do believe that like spirits and whatnot, that there is another dimension and all that with stuff like that. It's not too fresh on my mind. But all the movies that were shown and stuff like that also kind of talk about it, like the new stranger things kind of goes into portals and the different frequency. And the electromagnetic spectrum, for sure. I am on your page with that, that there is something there. I don't know if it's mantids in the Wi-Fi, but there is something there. And if you go back to Marconi and it seems like these early guys messing with signals and stuff somewhat discovered this. I mean, Tesla famously felt like he had an intelligence talking to him. What was he messing with? Electricity all the time. Exotic forms of electricity. Marconi is a deep rabbit hole. And there's a lot of classified stuff that gets into metaphysical, spiritual aspects of broadcasting these signals. People talk about nukes and they say, well, that's when the grays showed up because they didn't want these bombs to have multidimensional effects and it would affect their living space as well. I think there's something very parallel true about just messing with signals in general. And Marconi is kind of at the center bullseye of all that kind of stuff. But so you go on here just to kind of stick the landing on this as a topic. You go on to talk about the fact that you're pretty convinced that COVID was an illness caused by 5G. And this is a thing people do say. You say coronavirus is a scapegoat. Wuhan is a smart city with 5G. It operates at 60 hertz, the same frequency as the oxygen molecule absorption rate. They're suffocating yourselves from the inside. Basically, the Trump administration passed the bills to deploy 5G nationwide and to rural areas for America and her allies. The Chinese 5G company Huawei is banned in the US. All the sponsors for Together at Home, including Lady Gaga and the World Health Organization fundraiser for vaccine development, was sponsored by 5G companies. That's interesting. I haven't looked that up to see how true that is or how much you nailed that. But you say 5G is the new Sputnik moment. The new space race who controls 5G will control. The new world order, the reopening of the world is actually the opening up of new demonic portals. So yes, saying demonic portals is something that's going to catch people's attention. But I looked up the legislation here because it's just not fresh in my mind. COVID was like, you know, we're all dealing with our own shit. And then you look back at it. Yeah. If you go to TrumpWhiteHouse.gov, they brag about this. In 2018, President Trump unveiled our nation's first cyber strategy in 15 years, which included facilitating the evolution and security of 5G. In March 2020, ding, ding, ding. President Trump issued the National Strategy to Secure 5G, which outlined his vision for America to lead the development, deployment, and management of secure and reliable 5G communications infrastructure worldwide. Thanks to the president's actions, more than 250 million Americans, big chunk of Americans now have access to operational 5G networks. So it's really interesting. The timeline is there. And when you think about Trump, Biden, Trump, you could almost make the case that they needed a four-year pause between the 5G infrastructure that he ushered in and now the AI infrastructure stuff that he's ushering in again. If you ask me, that's kind of the most dangerous stuff that can be done. So these people who are still on Team Trump, they really got to look at this because all the extra stuff he does, plastic straws, possibly doing something about daylight savings time, all that is just cover for the one true agenda, the big, beautiful bill, build back better, big, beautiful bill. You're going to get it one way or another. It seems like the most important aspect is to turn over free reign to these tech bros. And it started in that first administration, just as you talk about here. And it's going on now. So like I said, that I wrote that like really quickly once I started the channel and it was getting views because I needed something. I was like, I could sell this, it's $5, $10, you know, it's just- You got my five bucks. Thank you. I appreciate that. But it's still pretty, it's pretty good. But my thoughts have changed a lot. But a lot of that stuff is pretty solid because even in this field that we're in, there's a ton of portals and like information that sends us on to rabbit holes that just aren't important or lead us down the wrong direction. And I've gone down all of them, right? So like where I'm at now, like my mind's changed on a lot of different things, but also within that, there's a lot of good stuff, but yeah, it's wild. It was a strange time. It was a different, it was a different time, but that was like when it was first happening, like the first months when I made that. Right. Well, you know, that's why I just asked the questions. I don't want to be held accountable for what I thought last year or two years ago and any of that stuff. Although I am probably going to take a page out of your book and start doing more stuff on my own, because there's just all this information. You can start looking at one particular building and who owns the building and then go down that person's family. And all of a sudden you're in this crazy space and you're like, what am I going to do with this information? And a lot of it is mystical. You'll find people who are attached to occult orders who own like the most prominent buildings in a certain city and no one knows about it. And there is no book on that. So for that information to ever even make it into the thing that I do here, I kind of got to do it myself because there's just nobody to even ask about it. But it's very common to just start a small investigation and end up in a very strange place with all kinds of connections that you'd never heard before. And you start looking at someone and you're like, just you can almost feel a potency to it. You're like, I know when I look at this person's background, something will emerge. They will have gone to those three schools, Harvard, Princeton, Yale. They will have done, you know, it's always there. They'll be involved in banking or the pharmaceutical establishment, or if they weren't, their parents were. And nine times out of 10, I'm finding really weird stuff that just kind of goes in one ear and out the other. So I really appreciate what you do and bringing this stuff to light, regardless of if you have to cut around some of it to get to really just the straight facts and what people want to do with that. But as we're closing out this first hour, I guess, what's what do you think is some of your most recent stuff that you think is quite unique? Where's your head at now? What are you looking at? So I just finished reading Closer Encounters, 450 pages on the UFO stuff. So I'm very, that's where my head's at now. And I've been working on editing it and all that. And I don't want to interrupt you, but that is a book by Jason Giorgiani. Yes. And he was booked to be on this show about a week ago and he canceled on me and hasn't responded to my request to reschedule. So it was very interesting that I scrambled to put someone else on the calendar. It was you. And your most recent thing is a deep dive into his book, which I was reading anyway. Yeah, so I probably could talk about it better than he can, because I've read it. I've studied it. I documented it. I read it over and over and over again. Very great book. I mean, incredible. I love it. Well, the people listening out there, maybe the listeners can give a little nudge to Giorgiani and let them know that this is a good place to appear. Well, he talked about the mantis. I got that book years ago because he covers the mantises in it. So the whole reason to read it was to learn about the mantis information. And it's a whole nother take than what I presented, which is scary. It's freaky. Yes. How does all this stuff inform the way you see reality as something that really seems more scripted? Of course, we don't know necessarily why or by who, but what are your thoughts on the big picture? It's very important when we're looking into stuff like this to ground ourself into reality. Like, where am I right now? Like, where are my feet? What am I doing? What's real? What's not real? Because looking into stuff, you can get kind of schizo with it. That's why they say it's schizo because schizo is like everything is connected. So like we could connect everything and it gets too much for me where I'm just like, okay, that's wild because I start looking into something. I'm like, oh man, this is connected to this and this is connected to this. And it seems like there is a connection, but I got to know when to like step back and be like, okay, I'm going to read a book like that because it is our like perspective of reality, which has kind of got me into philosophy lately. But I'm such a beginner, totally beginner. But these different worldviews that we carry, like why do I have this certain worldview when I wrote that Mantis book where I was talking about stuff, I looked at the world a certain way and I totally look at it a little the same, but a lot differently now. Um, but also going back to when I was a kid, how I looked at the world is sort of like the same as I look at it today in some aspects when it comes to art or something like that may, you know, life experiences change it. But, uh, it's important to stay grounded in reality because the fear and the paranoia could be deliberately being pushed on to society through the algorithms to feel anxiety, to feel fear, to feel these different things. Then we hide that and mask it with certain substances. That's also pushed right with these advertisements. So it's, uh, I don't know. It's, it's, it's a big work. You know, it's a daily thing just today. I take it just today and yeah, it's, I'm all, I'm all about having the serenity. I like the, how the serenity, but life happens now. Yeah. Things go up and down. Life happens and just dealing with it is important. And also being able to not watch clips and watch long form content like your channel is great because people can't watch something. Like I'll make a video two hours long, wicked smart people, great research. It won't get as many views as if I just put together a couple seconds and be like, yo, this is satanic. Then it's millions of views. Right. Well, we got to retrain them. Don't play the game too much. Retrain people, bring them back. You know? Yeah. Uh, but what are you going to do? This was a lot of fun. Who knows how far is really too far. Maybe the line is mantids in the wifi. I think maybe we didn't find it, uh, but you know, we gave people a solid ride on the vast conspiracy. Let them know where to get more donut in their lives. You can find me at donut. That's D O E N U T. Okay. It's just that simple. Awesome. Well, thank you, man. Uh, you do some good stuff and I appreciate it talking to you. Have a good one. Thank you. Well, there we go, guys. Uh, some good old fashioned unhinged conspiracy lunacy with sprinkles and icing donut. And I do think he's onto something with all the blue and the idea of sacrifice preparation and the blue horses. That's not exactly an obvious sort of symbol to start seeing everywhere for no reason. I'm just pretty convinced about the blue subliminal messaging, the blue tongue trend. Maybe that's an homage to a Cali type ritual or something. Cali would always stick her tongue out, but I think it was always red. Shiva is the blue one and not just his tongue. He's more like Mr. Manhattan or a damn Navi. Maybe this is all viral marketing for avatar. I don't know. But if the collective unconsciousness is the core of reality and the internet and culture are now the substrates and how you affect consciousness or the unconscious, the tracing board now, or the new ritual altar, then yeah, some organic stuff out in the world does happen. But you have to see the actions of someone at the Beyonce level, the Katy Perry level has something artificial. They're kind of more like templates that archetypes and rituals are just draped over because they get the attention and that's what it's all about. For me, the mind blower is the Olympics performance and the blue guy on the platter. I see that with new eyes now. Well, it's that and the Beyonce blue horse portal thing. That's a good find. And also the wicked blue horse. I mean, that one was me, but this theme of a blue horse is present in the biggest film and the biggest concert tour of the year. I mean, maybe not the biggest, but way up there on the scale of getting their attention. The Katy Perry blue origin ritual was clearly a major event in the 2025 timeline. That Olympics thing was last year, but also France and French occultism has come up a few times recently as well. And these are just some of the biggest cultural events across sports, music, and film. So it's not like a huge stretch that seeing this symbol there would be meaningful. And the year of the fire horse, I was thinking, can fire be blue? Of course. And what kind of fire is blue? Is it an electrical fire? I think so. So could this symbolism go as deep as being literally represented as an attack on the grid perhaps, or is the fire horse and the blue not really connected? Is it more abstract? Like even if you do want to say it's electric fire, is it just humans being sacrificed to the blue flame of electricity, the blue light and all that stuff? Again, I'm not really the guy to firmly plant my flag on any conclusion. Or meaning, but I will acknowledge the synchromystic associations of what seems to be a ritual theme of the year. I'll have to go back and see what Wayne McCroy said it was going to be. And if his predicted symbols are anywhere as potent as what Donut is highlighting with the blue sacrifice horse motif. So that's what I liked. And I do think we got a pretty good interview here. Definitely unique. And it's that video and material that I thought would make for a good show. And then of course we covered some of his other stuff and that's all fine and good. But when I read a lengthy passage from someone's book about something as far out as boldly detailing the situation with mantid beings living in the wifi signal spectrum, I hope for a better response than, well, that's just an idea I thought of. So that's not ideal, but what am I going to say? We really went for it. I like to surprise you guys with something outside the norm, even for conspiracy culture when I can. And this is the offering on the THC table this week. I hope you feel full and satisfied. But apparently Donut manifested his way onto THC anyway. So I guess my cosmic puppet strings got tugged around a little bit for this too. Hmm. But another viral clip in the culture this year really was RFK using methylene blue on Air Force One, Elon on ketamine in the Oval Office horse tranquilizer, and also the Joe Rogan ivermectin horse paste thing. That's a little bit older, but it's still going on. And it's just all a little odd, right? I don't think I'm cherry picking obscure things. This is all right out in the front of culture. So kudos to Donut for picking up on that stuff. He is a character. I find him to be very genuine. And at least he was honest when he said, well, I just do this or do that to get clicks. It's how the game is played. And it's a hard game out there. Yeah, I know that. I know my thumbnails could be a bit better. I know I could be a bit more sensationalist and epic with my titles, but I guess I'm just getting old now. And my attitude is people are going to watch or not. And if my goal is really just to make them become members and not necessarily get that click. So the ad gets seen. Then what are the tricks really going to do for me? You like it or you don't. It is what it is. Of course, the numbers don't lie and the tricks work, but here we are. So anyway, the point being, you know, I love to turn the dial up to 11 and get wild with it. But when we cross the line over into silliness and every listener is going to have a different line for when we get to silliness, it does break the whole thing because we're trying to get to potential truths that are outside of our ability to verify. And if we go too far, the whole provocative nature of what we're doing here just kind of breaks. So I come away with slightly mixed feelings with some of the topics we covered, but I still think it was an enjoyable ride. All I do is ask the questions of people that I think will have interesting answers. And he definitely had quite a few interesting answers. You know, outside of the Wi-Fi mantid beans, I think we did get some great stuff in there, especially in the plus show. And plus people will correct me if they disagree, but I thought there was a ton of value in the Chateau Marmont material and the hidden tunnels under LA backing right up to the country club. I felt a bit bad because it did sort of turn into a mini presentation by me with some other supplemental stuff I found, but I'm just trying to make the show content rich. And it was Donut's videos that sent me in those particular directions. And I'm really just here to give the assist if something a guest did or covered in the past isn't exactly fresh in their mind. And then I had even more to fold in when we got to the Charles Delshow drawings and the history of the breakaway civilization stuff. So for first hour listeners, the plus show did take us deeper into Donut's presentation of Jason Giorgiani's work. And I've been trying to get an interview with Jason for a while now, ever since I learned that he was a shared source of insight for Tracy Twyman and Dr. Heather Lynn. But he canceled on me, doesn't seem to really want to reschedule and shy of me pulling the, uh, don't you know who I am? Don't you know, I'm the second or third biggest conspiracy podcaster in central Florida, you know, shy of me pulling that card. He's probably just going to keep ignoring my requests, but this was the next offering on my plate. And so it just so happened that that's what Donut covered and we got to talk about Jason's work anyway. And we added a lot of good stuff there and I bring it up now halfway to try to sell some of you free listeners on converting to plus. I got to do what I got to do, but I really got to just put this one part in the wrap up here about these drawings. So we all know from previous interviews here that there is a Charles Delshow airship drawing that says Trump on the top of it. We covered that in the plus show. There's actually two, but let's just focus on this one at the bottom is the date that he drew it. April 10th, 1920, four, 10, 20 D J T. My mind's blown by that. It's not just the first name. It's the whole damn name, middle initial two, and it's a synonymous term. Not everybody goes by their initials, but he does. It's quite eerie. What even is reality? So the plus show is great. Blah, blah, blah. Sign up at the higher side chats.com or in the show notes, toss me a few bones. If you like what I do and get twice as much of it and get the solo presentations I'm cooking up. In fact, I actually just sat down to record with someone yesterday. And before we started, they said how they thought THC was the gold standard and they considered it a big deal to be on. And after I got through my intro and we got to the first question, they completely froze up and said they were having a panic attack and couldn't do it. So I brought up the idea of doing a solo show based on their work and they endorsed it. So now that's another one to add to the list. And the universe just keeps presenting me with these solo shows to do. And I'm juggling like three or four things I have in the works now. And I think we might be playing around with the THC format a bit in the new year. More on that later, become a plus member, get caught up and brace yourself for a fully loaded 2026 year of the goddamn fire horse. But okay, let's keep it moving here. The last episode with Stellium 7, Mike Wilkerson, he had a solid five for a couple of days, five stars out of five. And I was really impressed. But now after about eight or nine days, it's a 4.7, which is still very, very good. And I'm super happy with that interview. His work is pretty fascinating. Blew my mind. A lot of people thought we had good chemistry, as they say in the movies. I agree. We got along well. And I just think the Hearthstone thing is wild. And the idea that these giant mountains don't just look like a Titan from the outside, that they have actual cavities that sync up with the biology. Nuts. The only real criticism I got from that interview is that it was too visual in the second hour. And I even apologized in the wrap up for that because I knew. But interviews are organic. And I didn't expect him to lean on the presentation so much. So I tried to remind him as we went. We had this echo issue live that was removed later, but it made it hard to step in and talk. So I just kind of let him do his thing. And in the wrap up, I didn't want anyone to be too frustrated. So I told you where you could get that presentation for free. And I hoped that people wouldn't be too mad at me. Most weren't. But it is what it is. I'm just letting you know that if you were frustrated, I hear you. And I'll try to make sure that doesn't happen again. But I put the Stellium 7 show on the top shelf. I think it's S tier around here. If we were doing a THC tier list, everyone is into listening to this show for something different. So clearly, that's not going to be a universal feeling. But I did like it a lot. And for something so wild and outside of the box, a 4.7 is pretty solid. Now, as for the meetup calendar, this is the list of where THC fans are trying to put themselves out there and meet other like-minded locals in meat space. Here we go. Looks like December is all done. That's to be expected. It is the 17th. But we got January 3rd, Desert Monks Brewing in Gilbert, Arizona. January 10th, Raleigh, North Carolina at the Raleigh Brewing Company. January 12th, Rosedale, Albany, Auckland, New Zealand at Bar Savannah. And January 16th, Michigan City, Indiana at Burn Elm Brewing. Okay. Find the others. Make events. Have fun. What's life about? No pressure. That is it for this one. I'm trying to think outside the box and bring you guys stuff that you aren't getting everywhere else. You decide how I'm doing, I suppose. But check out Donut's work if you are intrigued. There are some links in the show notes, including a PDF of the images he sent me. We talked about some of them. But again, I was being conscious of the audio listeners, so I pushed for us to move on. But they are included in the show notes if you are interested. And also, I should say I did write a new song that I'm ending this show with. I actually was thinking about some friends of mine who are at that point of life now that we're getting into our 40s where there's a couple divorces in the friend group. And it's sad to see. But they really got knocked down a peg or two economically. We don't have to get too much into it. But they are some red-pilled buddies of mine. And I just got to thinking about how difficult it would be to date in this reality right now in the mid-40s. Especially if you want someone that's also red-pilled, like that's a requirement to your dating. I don't know. It just sent me off and I came up with a funny song about it. And I didn't even think it might ever make it on THC because it's kind of not really exactly the vibe. But I think it jives with this particular episode. So we're going to dust it off and see what you think. And that's it for me. I've done my part. Your move. Blucifer Bastards. Ritual. Sacrifice. Culture. Trend. Cedars. And Fire Horse. Flame. Fanners. Your fucking move. I blew another first date where I told myself I'd keep it light. Wake is me, but we can have a good time staying up tonight. She was giving me the look. Things were starting to cook. But then she ruined the fun. I just couldn't bite my tongue. How could you think they handled COVID well? It was a PSYOP money grab all planned out. Those maps were just for compliance. Had nothing to do with the science. Even engineered far in advance. Is that because you realize there's a disclosure game being played? By shady intelligence guys. Cause beings have been here forever. Not just to hold myself I'd keep. Be empty. Be empty. Be empty. Be empty. Look, both of us hand down. You decide they're feeling the power I couldasa. I'll choose this again. Be empty. Be empty. Go吉. Go吉. Go吉. Go吉. Back. Go吉. Go吉. Go吉. Go吉. ��. Go吉. Go吉. Woo shooting. Go吉. Go吉. Go吉. Go吉. Go吉. Go吉. Go吉. Beshore. Go吉. forgot. No吉. Go吉. Go吉. Go吉. Go吉. Go吉. So-回o.