Dr. Joseph P. Farrell | The New Regime, Plasma Demons, & The Great Pyramid Habitat

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Meanwhile, for those who don't blindly go along, alternative authorities emerge within the counterculture that have us see in history, energy, medicine, finance, spirituality, and a whole host of things with completely new eyes. And one of the ever-present greats and one of my favorite people on this island earth is the legendary Dr. Joseph P. Farrell. He's the Oxford-educated historian with a doctorate in patristics who first ventured into the weird waters of narrative-breaking alternative history and science with his book, The Giza Death Star, in 2002. He has since ripped the weird door right off the hinges with amazing books like Babylon's Banksters, The Alchemy of Deep Physics, High Finance, and Ancient Religion, Financial Vipers of Venice, Alchemical Money, Magical Physics, and Banking in the Middle Ages and Renaissance, Saucers, Swastikas, and Psyops, A History of a Breakaway Civilization, Hidden Aerospace Technologies, and Psychological Operations, The SS Brotherhood of the Bell, The Nazis' Incredible Secret Technology, Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations, The Secret Space Program, Celestial Psyops, and Hidden Conflicts, Thrice, Great Hermetica, and The Janus Age, Hermetic Cosmology, Finance, Politics, and the Culture in the Middle Ages through the Late Renaissance, The Philosopher's Stone, Alchemy, and The Secret Research for Exotic Matter, Genes, Giants, Monsters, and Men, Surviving Elites of the Cosmic War and Their Hidden Agenda, a personal favorite, Rotten to the Common Core, Public Schooling, Standardized Tests, and the Surveillance State, Hess and the Penguins, The Holocaust, Antarctica, and The Strange Case of Rudolf Hess, and another personal favorite, Microcosm and Medium, The Cosmic Implications and Agenda of Mind Control Technologies, and that covers about half of them. And since we last did the dance, he has released two new ones, The Demon in the Acre, Angels, Demons, Plasmas, Patristics, and Pyramids, as well as The Rialto in Richmond, The Money War Between the States, and Other Mysteries of the Civil War. His membership community at GizaDeathStar.com is one of the longest running and most active independent memberships that's still going strong, and today marks the ninth interview we've done over nine years, and I'm as psyched as ever. The always tenacious, taboo, topic tackler, cosmic war correspondent, and off-the-books physics philosopher, the one and only Dr. Joseph P. Farrell. Welcome back, as always. Thanks, Greg. I love the alliteration in there. That's pretty good. I try, but a lot of it is just the titles of your books. You don't make it easy on a guy like me. And really appreciate your time. I'm sure for you, a lot of interviewers and podcast hosts all blend together. But for me, you're one of the best out there, and I have so much respect for your work and your thoughts on things. I consider myself extremely lucky to have you in the rotation, and I can't believe this is lucky number nine. And what a time to be doing it. I know you got a lot of flack talking about the last presidential election being stolen, but now that's like common knowledge when you look at the numbers of the last three elections all together, something like 15, 20 million Biden voters just disappeared. Disappeared. Maybe it was the jab. But I've heard you talk about both the pros and cons of the results of this latest election. It was a referendum on virtual campaigns and woke culture and avatar presidents and the big narrative, but also a win for the technocratic layer of the control sandwich. Elaborate on some of these thoughts and concerns for us. Well, my principal concern with the technocratic aspect of it is that during the campaign, Mr. Trump sidled up to the cryptocurrency community. And he also has mentioned that he wants to start a kind of strategic reserve in, I think it's Bitcoin. It's one of the cryptocurrencies. And I'm squarely 150% with Catherine Fitz and Dr. Skidmore and some of the people that have been raising issues with cryptocurrencies. Let's just stop and imagine the United States government spending however many billions or trillions it wants to put into a strategic reserve of cryptocurrency and thereby engineer and fiddle with the prices. This would be like the United States buying stocks on Wall Street as part of some strategic reserve. It's going to affect market prices and everything else and distort them. But my principal concern with cryptocurrencies is and has always been, number one, as Catherine Fitz says, and I'm going to echo her words exactly, there is no cyber system that is secure. None. Zero, zilch, nada. And the second problem I have with banking hard assets into what is essentially a bunch of electronic blips in a computer program is all it takes is one good electromagnetic pulse and those assets are gone. So, you know, I think it's the high, especially in today's world, I mean, we're on the cusp of a full-blown war with Russia and all of a sudden we think that banking and cryptocurrency, no, I want my assets in hard things like gold, stock certificates, silver, coins, bullion, land, you know, give me something tangible, not blips on a computer screen. I'm sorry. Thank you very much. So, yeah, I think there's cause for concern with that. But the long and short of it is, I think some sort of deal has been cut with Mr. Trump. The way I'm looking at it, I'm looking at his domestic appointments to his cabinet. And in most cases, I think they've been relatively sound. You know, I don't care what you think about Bobby Kennedy and 98% of his political views, but on the issue of health and quack scenes and that sort of stuff, I think he's rock solid. You know, he's litigated these things in court and won. So he knows what he's talking about. The appointments domestically, to me, look like they're okay. So what I'm looking at, I think, is perhaps there's been some sort of deal that he made to be allowed to his domestic agenda, and he'll play along with the neocon agenda in foreign policy. That's the way it looks to me. However, even that said, I think you'd have to be clueless and witless to examine the situation in the Ukraine and come to any other conclusion that this thing cannot be won. Russia is not going to allow us to win it, and they're willing to escalate. And they've shown us that they have tools in their toolbox that we do not have any corresponding similar tool. I'm talking about the recent medium-range, intermediate-range missile strike in Dnieper-Petrovsk. And pardon me, folks, I'm going to keep calling these cities by their Russian names because that's how they're familiar to me. I don't know Ukrainian. I'm sorry, I'm not going to go change all the maps in my house out for Ukrainian. But there were these strikes against the large airplane factories in Dnieper-Petrovsk. And what I'm seeing on the video is I'm looking at a different type of weapon altogether. It could be a combination of kinetic weapons. Scott Ritter has suggested plasmoids. We're not looking at conventional weaponry there. The other thing that I think we're looking at is extremely precision targeting. And as a result of that, you don't need nuclear weapons to destroy targets like that. You can literally drive these things down someone's chimney and take it out. So, you know, Russia's sending all sorts of messages, and the idiots in the swamp don't seem to be listening. I think Trump needs to reassess any commitments that he may have to his neocon friends. But that's my basic overall take on what happened in this election. And final point is, Greg, I think, in all honesty, people in this country are just fed up, and I'm going to be very blunt, with this Radek and Jacobin agenda that seems to have culturally captured the leadership of the Democratic Party. I mean, when you're driving Democrats like a candidate out of the party, that should be a little clue that maybe it's gone a little too far. Right, right. It should be. And you mentioned that interview you did with Catherine Austin Fitz recently. You guys talked about it seems like what might be happening is getting the traditional military contractors and classic deep state out, which might be good, but replacing them with people who are loyal to big tech and the central banks, which might be even scarier. Almost like they're just clearing out the underbrush for a more direct-to-consumer, centralized control system with fewer folks and middle management. But another thing that stuck out to me is she framed the election as a massive rejection of the occult, which you seem to agree with. And she brought up this puff piece on Trump that came out of Foreign Affairs, which is a product of the Council on Foreign Relations, and noted that, quote, this can only happen if the Rockefeller faction has buried the hatchet with the Rothschild faction and they're ready to use Trump to get the control grid because they don't think the Dems can deliver. Well, that makes sense to me. I mean, kind of like what you just said, but I didn't know the Rockefeller and Rothschild factions had a beef, but I do agree that it seems like nothing can really happen if it isn't sanctioned at that highest level. But do you know much about the conflict she was referring to there? It's interesting that you bring that question up, and it's a very important question. Richard Hoagland, years and years ago, when he was doing his regular broadcast, mentioned the same thing. And this has been a meme that has been out there in alternative research for quite some time. Mostly what they're referring to, and I'm going back about 15 years and discussions that Mr. Hoagland and I had when I visited him personally. But I think his assessment was principally correct, and I believe that in its basic outlines, Catherine would probably agree with the overall take that I'm about to offer. And that is that the Rockefeller-Rothschild factions in what I like to call Mr. Globaloni or Mr. Globaloni, depending on my mood, they are agreed as to the goal. In other words, these are mafia dons sitting around their roundtable, smoking their cigars, sipping their brandy, and kissing each other's rings, while out on the streets, their minions are shooting at each other. So that's the way I view the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, or Rotten Childs and Rockefellers, as I like to refer to them. Because that's all they are. They're mob bosses. You know, you only have to look at John D. Rockefeller and his history of dealing with competition to realize the guy was in a protection racket. He was a mob boss. But what they're agreed upon is the goal. They all want global government. What they're not agreed upon is, number one, who gets to run it? Because they all want to get to run it. And the closer they get to their goal, the more they start fighting each other. Which, you know, sit back and have your popcorn, folks, and enjoy the show. Because that's exactly what we're watching right now. Everybody wants to run it. And the problem is, Mr. Globalone, meaning the Western financial oligarchs, now have some severe competition. China, India, Russia, you know, the usual suspects. But the other thing they're disagreed on is not only who gets to run it, but how they're going to get there. Okay? And that's the crucial difference between the Rockefeller faction and the Rothschild faction. The Rockefellers have always wanted to obtain their goal. Through technological dominance. That's their goal. And you see that reflected in the way that American foreign policy has basically functioned, and American military policy in particular, has basically functioned since the end of World War II. We have basically taken the German tack that, okay, we don't have the population to militarily take over the world, but we can achieve military dominance through superior technology and military doctrine. That's essentially what they did. But the Rothschilds have taken the view that to achieve global dominance, you must dominate and have controlling interest in all hard assets, land, resources, and so on. So, in other words, those are the two basic approaches. And you can see the Rothschild approach dominating foreign policy, particularly in Europe, particularly vis-a-vis the Ukraine and so on. They've always wanted to crack Russia up and seize all the assets. That's been standard British geopolitics since Sir Halford Mackinder at the turn of the last century. I think that's the break, and they've decided, okay, we can make common cause and try both approaches at the same time, because the competition we're facing, we can't afford these domestic squabbles in our own house confronted with Russia and China. We simply can't do it. So, they've dropped the hatchet, and they're making common cause. That makes sense. And you've written several books on finance. I wanted to ask you about the tariffs thing. I personally, I get really skeptical when the whole media machine seems to have one answer, and they're aggressively trying to campaign against something, and all I hear is how bad of an idea it is. You could put quack scenes, as you put it, in that category of, like, there's only one opinion that gets talked about in mainstream ways. But logically, if you want to get more people to make things in America or reward the people who do, it seems like tariffs are a good incentive to stop the trend of making a few places with low standards the factories of all goods in the world, right? Well, you remember Ross Perot? I do. All right. I remember him very fondly. Yeah. My dad loved him. Yeah, I like the guy, because he was running for president at the time that George Herbert Walker, King George I, was touting all of these magnificent free trade deals, you know, and we're going to have this era of prosperity and trickle-down economics, you know, all of this international free trade was ultimately only going to benefit us. And along comes Ross Perot, and he said, prepare for the great sucking sound, because the only result of this is going to be all of our manufacturing base and heavy industry is going to go overseas. What happened? It all went overseas. Okay. And now China's confronted with the same thing. They're talking about opening up automobile factories, not in China, but in Mexico, you know, so it's follow the cheapest labor. My view has always been that when you start talking about economic ideologies, then you're talking unreality. I like free trade, but there's a limit to it, and that limit is approached when your heavy industry that you need for your national security is all shipped overseas. Right now, the main battle tank of the United States Army, the Abrams, if you look at the components of that one tank, some of them come from here, some of them come from there, and we have an international tank. The main weapon on that tank is a German gun. Well, who else, you know? But my point is, is we are not making our own munitions with a supply line that is completely under American control. When you look to Russia, what do they do? Did they ship all that stuff out of the country at the collapse of the Soviet Union? No. They make every last nut, bolt, rivet, every computer chip, every necessary component to their offensive weapons inside of Russia. Now, that may mean in some cases they settle for what the rest of the world would regard as subpar, but they keep their hands on all the essential manufacture. So I think in a certain sense, if we want to bring this heavy industry back, we have got to have tariffs. Why hasn't Boeing left? Why haven't Martin Marietta and all of these defense contactors, why haven't they gone overseas? Well, the simple reason is they're already getting tariffs in a certain sense from government military contracts and therefore subsidy. So I don't have a problem with tariffs, but they have to be used very, very carefully because our country has a history of using tariffs and it creates massive problems. Think of the tariff that was passed before the American Civil War broke out. Well, who does that fall the heaviest on? The South. So, you know, at that time, the richest part of the country was the South. So you had a sectional tariff imposed by one section of the country on the other section of the country that was going to pay for everything and not be able to export its commodities. So, you know, a lot of what happened was because of a misapplied tariff. So we've got to be very careful. I'm not against them. But I think when you start weaponizing them, look what Trump has already done. He's threatened to use tariffs to cut off drug supply from China, Mexico and Canada. I'm sorry. You don't want to piss off our next door neighbors too much, you know. So I have mixed feelings about tariffs. I'm not against them. But I think he has to be very, very cautious in the way he signals how he's going to use them. In fact, if I were him, I'd tell him, shut up, Mr. Trump. Don't give the game away beforehand. Put out your warnings, but leave it at that. And then if you want to tell Mr. Trudeau the percentage that you're going to put on certain tariffs, do that privately at a summit. Don't back Canada into a corner. Fair enough. And like most things, the devil is in the details. It's not just this big, broad idea of tariffs. It's how it's applied. And I've had a couple people mention to me that one of America's great assets is really the American consumer, the most well-trained consumer on the planet. And access to the American consumer is something that should be and could be leveraged from time to time. And maybe Americans should get back in the business of making products for the American consumer rather than just consuming. Ding, ding, ding. I like it. Well, maybe I'm not as dumb as I thought I was. All right. So let's move on and talk about the demon in the acre. I don't know a good transition to get us there other than to just say it because it's pretty bizarre. But this book is supplemental material for the Giza Death Star Hypothesis. We talked about that for two hours in our last interview. So we don't have to get too fundamental on that. But you talk about the Great Pyramid as a frequency oscillator weapon. And you start this latest book. And for people who are new to this, I guess a lot of qualities that are applied to HAARP would be applied to this potential ancient weapon. Well, you start this latest book saying that it merges the Giza Death Star Weapon Hypothesis with the, quote, emerging hypothesis that the vast plasmas and dust clouds of interstellar and intergalactic space may represent enormous and little understood life forms. Life forms that by their very nature are both inorganic, bodiless, and almost immaterial in nature. I love the idea that intelligent plasma beings could be responsible for a wide range of high strangeness paranormal stuff. But why would these kinds of plasma beings relate directly to the type of weapon you propose the Great Pyramid to be? Well, two reasons. As I pointed out in that book, when I originally wrote the Giza Death Star, the very first version of it, which no one has ever seen but our particular publisher that I sent it to and me. When I originally wrote that book, as you know, I love epigraphs. All the chapters in all of my books have epigraphs. I love them. And in that first version of the Giza Death Star, I put a quotation from Zechariah Sitchin, which in turn was referring to an ancient manuscript, the Epic of Ninurta, in other Babylonian texts, which referred to the demon in the Acre. Acre is the Akkadian word for a mountain or a ziggurat or a pyramid. So it's the same word that's used for all those things. Mountain house in particular, if you look at some definitions. Mountain house, yeah. So the demon in the Acre is really saying the demon in the pyramid. And I thought, wow, what an epigraph. So I put it in the original Giza Death Star, and I sent off the book to a publisher that about three months later sends it back to me and rejected it. And in that three months, I kept working and crunching more and more numbers on the original book. And I got to thinking, well, I should not have put that epigraph in there because I didn't talk about it, and I didn't want to talk about it because it's just too much for, you know, you're sitting there, and this guy is talking about the Great Pyramid being a weapon. How much more crackpot can you be? And now you're going to put a demon into the next show. Looney Tunes. But anyway, when the book came back, I revised the book and eventually sent it out to Adventures Unlimited, which published the book. And I took that epigraph out. I didn't want to go there. And I thought, well, eventually we'll have to go there. And then a wonderful thing happened. I managed to dodge the bullet of having to talk about this because Robert Temple published a book called The Secret Science of Heaven, all about the plasma life hypothesis. I thought, oh, this is wonderful because someone else is talking about this. I don't have to do it. And so I thought, okay, when I published the Giza Death Star Revisited, I reinserted that epigraph into the Giza Death Star Revisited and did so knowing that I'd probably have to write the sequel, which turned out to be The Demon and the Acre. So the other path here to why I wrote the book is, first of all, the original epigraph from Zechariah Sitchin, and then the fact that there is a small circle of people in the plasma physics community that have always thought there's something really fishy and weird about plasmas. And that is that plasmas behave in many circumstances and respond to their circumstances like organic life. Let me give you two examples. The first example was noticed by the physicist David Bohm when he was working during the war on the Manhattan Project, and he was trying to take measurements of uranium plasma inside of cyclotrons, and he noticed that whenever he inserted a probe into the plasma, the plasma's response was to encase the probe with particles that prevented any sort of measurement from being taken. And Bohm thought, well, that's an autoimmune response. It's like the white blood cells in your blood, you know, sensing something has invaded the body, and then they race to attach themselves to it and simply create a wall around the thing so that it can't hurt you. He thought this was mighty peculiar for plasma. The other thing that plasma physicists started to notice is that plasmas actually can have discrete regions within the plasma that are separated from each other by membranes, and in the case of a plasma, the membrane is actually kind of a dipole. It's a layer of electrons on one side, and it's a layer of protons on the other. So, in other words, you've got a fundamentally ionized phenomenon that yet has discrete regions within it that are separated by membranes of charge. And what's a membrane? Well, look at any organic body in the world and probe the interior, and what's the interior made of? Well, it's made of membranes. And then the third thing, you know, if we keep wanting to go here, the third thing about plasmas that's very unusual is they have tubes. Now, the fundamental and essential phenomenon of all life that we know of is tube. Okay, you're a tube, I'm a tube, a snake is a tube, your cat is a tube, we're all tubes. Okay, so we have membranes, tubes, and we have autoimmune responses. So, in other words, my point here is that plasmas, if you look at them a certain way, are acting as if they're alive. And this, I should go further, this so upset David Bohm. You know, I mean, we're talking world-class physicist here. This so upset David Bohm, he quit working with them. He thought, we're playing around with who knows what. Now, add to this one final speculation, Greg. The fundamental thing that we have to notice about all consciousness is that at some point, it's dependent on electromagnetic phenomena and a kind of a lattice structure that we call neurons and synapses in our brains. We think somehow consciousness is connected to that, and I would agree. I don't think consciousness is in the brain, but I think it's connected or transduced by the brain. All right, let's talk about the Great Sloan Wall. The Great Sloan Wall, and I mention this in the book, is a plasma structure in the universe. Okay? And wrap your brain around this one. It is approximately 100, I think it's 137 septillion, something like that, septillion miles in length. In other words, it's several hundred thousand light years long, and it's a cohered structure. Now, first of all, that's an eensy-weensy-teensy problem if you've been following the great Albert, who've told you that information and therefore structure cannot cohere beyond the speed of light. What's that doing there? How is it being held together, Al? Yeah. And the problem that you create with that is, if that structure is conscious because of all those plasma filaments that connect it, and I show pictures of this in the book, and then juxtapose those pictures of plasma filaments in the structure of the universe with neurons and synapses in the structure of a human brain, and I defy anyone to tell me what the fundamental difference is. So, in other words, we might be looking at a huge structure that is able to transduce a consciousness way off the chart in respect to us. So, yeah, I think when you put all this together and then go back to Sitchin's original comment, there's a demon in the acre. Well, why a demon in a pyramid? Well, in my reading, and I'm following Chris Dunn here, in my reading of the Great Pyramid, the thing was filled internally with what? It was filled with plasma. In this case, hydrogen plasma. Sorry to go around Harvey's barn there. No, no, no. I actually have that Christopher Dunn thing in my next question for you, but with other guests like Joshua Cutchin, we would talk about, hey, maybe these things people are calling E.T. are actually the same as what used to be called fairies, because fairy lore has a lot of similarities. The food exchanges, the taking of children, abductions, and all that kind of stuff. Well, then you can fold in, well, what about angels? And all the old biblical depictions of angels are way weirder than they were in my Catholic school. Way weirder than the fat little cherubs with wings, dimply little cheeks. Yeah, it's concentric rings around a big eyeball, a big glowing wheel of wings. Yeah. All kinds of bizarre things. And then the next level of understanding is, let's get past these categories altogether. Maybe these three categories are all manifestations of plasmas. And then you look at what the qualities are of the old descriptions of angels, which you have in the book, and plasmas. It's like, well, shape-shifting, materiality, immateriality, free range of motion, communication without words or sounds. It starts to sound like we're onto something here. I guess one of my questions is, when they talk about plasmas, they say it's 99.99% of all matter is plasma. It's so ubiquitous that you miss it. Well, if this stuff is so ubiquitous, I mean, why are these encounters so rare? Good question. But I think part of the answer has to lie with, if you accept plasma life and an intelligent plasma life hypothesis, it could be that they're so rare because plasma just doesn't want to mess around with us. If you're dealing with a plasma structure that's 137 septillion, whatever the odd, weird number was, I can't remember off the top of my head, but if you're dealing with something that is that big and more overconscious, is it going to want to mess around with these little bugs crawling on this little ball of dust that's floating in another ball of plasma cloud dust? Well, probably not. It's my thinking. So I think part of it is answered simply on volition. You know, they choose not to mess with us for whatever reason, and others do for whatever reason. I do think that there is a connection with plasma and angels because plasmas, particularly in the form of ball lightning, have fascinated people because ball lightning has, on many occasions, exhibited behaviors that indicate that something intelligent is directing it, or as I would prefer to say, something intelligent is inside of it, you know, just like there's something intelligent inside of us. It's called us. But the other thing that fascinates me more than anything else, and I read this way back in college. I already had the idea, oh, angels, plasmas. There is a Christian church father by the name of St. John of Damascus. He wrote in the late 6th century, early 7th century, and I have this quotation. He wrote a big, long work called On the Orthodox Faith, and in the book, he talks about angels and demons, you know, right up front. And I put this quotation in the book because it's quite a long quotation, and it's very, very interesting that this guy, writing in the 7th century, is anticipating things that Werner Heisenberg is going to talk about at the founding of quantum mechanics. And one of the most odd things in this, and I even call it the angelic uncertainty principle, because if you change but a few words in this quotation by the Damascene, you could be talking Werner Heisenberg, because the Damascene says that the angels cannot operate and energize, I think, something like that, at the same time. Well, okay, change it to you can't measure the position of an electron and the momentum of an electron at the same time. So, in other words, the language itself is peculiar in that what he's attempting to describe is going to be described in almost the same way of a physical phenomenon much, much later. And again, he is writing, and he also goes so far as to say that these beings, these angels and demons, have some sort of materiality. Compared with us, they appear to be immaterial. Compared with God, they appear to be material. So, even there, he's trying to use the language of his day to describe something that sounds very much like a plasma. It does not have corporeality in the sense that we do, but it is material in that it's composed of the same protons, neutrons, ions, and so on, that the rest of us are, but in a much less dense form. Here's the clincher. Plasmas are fundamentally electromagnetic phenomena. What did Gabriel Krone tell us about all electromagnetic phenomena, particularly electrical circuits? Because the mathematics used to describe it must be higher dimensional, otherwise you can't do it. Those imaginary numbers in the mathematics of electrical circuits, if you look at those imaginary numbers, or irrational numbers in a particular way, they are the fourth spatial dimension. So, in other words, the toaster on your kitchen counter, your refrigerator, your computer, and your local plasma are all higher dimensional entities, including your brain. This is why I say your brain is a transducer of something out there and in a much different sort of existence than we can describe in three standard dimensions. So, that's the other thing that we're dealing with plasma. We're dealing with something that, by its nature, is a higher dimensional being. Kind of sounds like angels and demons. So, you know, on and on we could go. Right. So, I feel like that does a pretty good job of making the connections between angels and plasmas. That maybe what is described in the Bible, what people describe in modern encounters, as bizarre as they can get, if you read something like Whitley Strieber's book, Them, or They, some of the weirder encounters I've read, it's all about morphing from one thing to another, bizarre creatures. There's no way there's a cosmology of creatures because a lot of these seem one-to-one. Like, they seem like a shape-shifting thing that isn't like, it doesn't have a family at home waiting. So, all kinds of weird presentations. So, we made that connection. Let's fold it into pyramids. So, we already know that the pyramid geometry alone has effects. Whether you're meditating or growing food beneath the pyramid shape, it changes the energy. So, could ancient people lean into that and then make an advanced harp-like weapon? Maybe. But regarding the demon-pyramid relationship, you start chapter three by saying, if angels and demons are a form of inorganic plasma-based life, then the relevance of that idea to the weapon hypothesis of the Great Pyramid becomes immediately apparent. For, if, as Christopher Dunn speculated, hydrogen gas was found inside the Great Pyramid, and if, as I speculated, it may have existed in an endothermic plasma state in a plasma pinch, then the structure becomes not just a machine, but minimally a habitation and possibly even a prosthetic and a kind of electro-acoustic bioweapon, one is even tempted to advance the extremely speculative hypothesis that the dimensional analogs in the structure are designed to be coupled harmonic oscillators not only to the planet and the local space, but of their angelic guardian, a guardian whom could be understood to be a fallen angel or demon. I mean, wow, I do love this book, but maybe you can elaborate on some of those details. That's a tall order. Yeah. The Pyramid Habitat. I mean, that's interesting. Or prosthetic. Make that connection for us. My fundamental, let's see if I can approach it with a slightly different take. If you look at the Great Pyramid, and I've written about this in all the pyramid books, the Soviet-era research, the Soviets, what most people don't understand is the Soviets did a lot of top-secret research on pyramids during the Soviet era. They built them outside of Moscow. They're tourist attractions now. But at the time, this research was very secret. One of the things that they discovered was a tall and narrow pyramid, like an obelisk, had properties that were very similar to an antenna. A short, squat, flattened-out pyramid had more of the physical properties, like a big parabolic dish on a radio telescope or a radar set. It was a collector. Sandwiched between those two functions at exactly a height of pi divided by two by the base of the pyramid is a shape that is both an antenna and a collector and can function as both. Okay? And that, incidentally, is the exact ratio of the Great Pyramid. No other structure has both functions with anywhere near the degree of the efficiency of the Great Pyramid. Now, if that's the case, and all of those harmonic dimensional analogs of some plasma being, assuming that hypothesis to be true, if all of those harmonic analogs are designed to get or couple to that plasma being, it could be that the pyramid functioned as an amplifier, or therefore as a prosthetic or as an enabler. And that's what I mean by prosthetic in this context. It's an amplifier of functions that are present in the plasma itself and enables those functions to assume maximum efficiency. So, as a machine, it still functions without that plasma present to a certain extent, but it functions most effectively and most efficiently when the plasma is present. This is why, if we go around the Great Pyramid now, all the disastrous effects are not there. However, I think it is interesting that the history of that region of the world is so bloody. It's as if there's some sort of resonant effect. And I say that because Chris Dunn and I actually spoke at a conference years and years ago together. And he had read my book, and my book has always made him uncomfortable because he does not like the weapon hypothesis. But he did say at this particular conference that, well, if the pyramid was a weapon, maybe it was a weapon to beam thoughts of peace and joy and so on into people. And I thought, well, that's an interesting idea. It has a consciousness effect, and therefore, you're dealing with a transduction effect of, again, a plasma phenomenon. But my problem, and my response when I got up to speak was, well, it's an interesting idea. It's an intriguing idea, and I wouldn't discount it. But look at the history of the region. If it's beaming out all these positive, wonderful feelings, why does every ancient text, particularly the one cited by Sitchin, refer to it as a weapon and as the great weapon and so on and so forth? Why is the history of the region so bloody? So, yeah, I think there is a connection somehow of things that we little know and understand, because, again, plasma physics is very new. We think of all physics being centuries old. Plasma physics is really only within the last century or so with the rise of the nuclear era. So, we don't know how the pyramid works, but I feel confident in assuming that this prosthetic effect, this idea of it being an enabler that amplifies the functions of the plasma itself, probably, in the long run, is going to be shown to be true. There's no other way to account for all the dimensional analogs in the structure of local space. They're not there because they decided to have a Bureau of Weight Standards and Measures. There are much simpler ways to do that. Right, right. Well, when I try to wrap my head around this idea and I look at the cover of the book, which is quite provocative, it starts to make me think like they're trying to chain up and harness Godzilla. It's like this really crazy, monstrous plasma force, a fallen angel. I mean, how can man really chain up and then command a fallen angel? So, I start to think, well, what kind of agency does this plasma have in this situation? Or what really is the relationship, like a habitat? I mean, is it the weapon itself? Is it a byproduct of the weapon? It could be both. I'm a both-and kind of guy, as most people know. Well, I think we're dealing with something that doesn't fall into our neat and tidy categories. So, trying to reverse engineer a potential physics behind it is fraught with difficulty because on the one hand, you have to appeal to the known body of physics. On the other hand, you have to be willing to speculate. So, you're in this fuzzy gray area when you're dealing with it. But I point out something very interesting. If you look at the so-called electric universe cosmology, which is kind of the popularized version of plasma cosmology, and I take great pains in The Demon and The Acre to cite the two principal plasma physicists, Dr. Peratt and then his mentor, Dr. Alfvén. When you look at those kinds of people and then look at what they're saying about plasmas, and you look then at ancient lore, the idea of the thunderbolts of the gods, and this is why I put plasmas front and center in my book, The Cosmic War, which, again, I reiterate for everybody, it's that particular book that I have intentionally and always viewed as the keystone in the arts that unites all the other books, every last one of them, including my theological books. In The Cosmic War, I put plasma physics front and center, and I pointed out that Anthony Peratt himself, personally, has pointed out the similarity of ancient petroglyphs to diagrams of plasma pinches, and he goes on to speculate that people saw these things. And if they saw these things as gigantic celestial phenomena, then it takes but a small step to those thunderbolts of the gods, where you have actual lightning arcs between the planets. Because, again, the solar system is not an electrically neutral system. It is electrodynamic. So you've got that huge scar, the Valle Marineris, across the equator of Mars. And if you examine that scar closely and carefully, what you're looking at is, quite literally, an electromagnetic scar. It's a gigantic lightning strike. Therefore, if plasmas are alive, intelligent, electromagnetic phenomena, then you're looking at not only a biology, but you're looking at that biology's weaponry, its defense system. In other words, you view plasmas as kind of gigantic electric eels. You know, they can zap you, but you don't need to touch, in the plasmas case, you don't need to touch the body. They can do it at distance, okay? So, yeah, it makes sense for people to try and wrap a pyramid around one of these things and weaponize it. I put that quotation of the Damascene in the book up front for that reason, because the other thing that he tells you is, don't think you're going to trap these things by doing silly things like drawing pentagrams on a floor with blue chalk, or as he puts it, don't think you're going to trap these things by signs and seals. Ain't going to work. Well, that's what I was thinking. It seems like a scaled-up version of traditional ceremonial magic. Yes, if there's no physics involved, that's the problem. In the case of the pyramid, even if you exclude the plasma life hypothesis, you are, I think, arguably dealing with a machine, and the machine purpose of the structure cannot be denied. It's when you get to the redundancy of all the harmonic analogs in that structure to local space that you realize this is way more than just a power plant. You don't build redundant dimensional analogs of the solar system, the galaxy, the Earth-Moon system when you build an electrical power plant to turn on your lights, thank you, PSO, or Pacific Power and Gas, or whoever. You don't do that when you're building a power plant. The harmonics that you need are all built into the electrical circuit, and that's it. But the whole structure, no. So there's a reason they're doing this and going to the expense. And again, I'm arguing that it makes no sense to be doing this if you're building a Bureau of Weights and Standards. There are much easier ways to do this. It's a physics purpose. And it's very complicated stuff. I mean, we don't really have a lot of things to point to and say, well, this would be like that. This is very foreign. But I urge people, if they don't remember an interview we did a year ago, to check that out in conjunction with this one. But let me add this because it kind of validates what you're saying. So you have three images of smooth-sided pyramids from ancient Sumerian artifacts, specifically not step pyramids like people might think. These are smooth-sided pyramids. So you could say that it's the Giza pyramid or it's the Great Pyramid there. But in one of them, there is a glowing burst of plasma or a star-like object directly above it. In the second one, the pyramid has wings. And in the third, it's shown with a twisted caduceus of two snakes in the sky above it. And they're counter-rotating snakes. Fair enough. That's important. Now, if you were trying to explain the Giza Death Star hypothesis and the Demon in the Acre premise in three images, I mean, that would kind of be it. Yeah, that would be it. Those images are actually taken directly from Zechariah Sitchin because he reproduces those images in his book, The Wars of Gods and Men. And you really have to sit there and ponder them very carefully because, first of all, what's a smooth-sided pyramid doing in images put on little cylinder seals in Mesopotamia? There's not one Mesopotamian pyramid around that is smooth-sided. They're all ziggurats and they're all stepped. Okay, that's problem number one. So why are they there? The other problem is, what are they trying to signify by putting wings on a pyramid? Now, I would submit that that would fit angels and demons very, very carefully, particularly if you're dealing with demons in a mountain house, okay? But it's the snakes, the double-entwined Ouroboros or Caduceus, of the two intertwined snakes, and they're both rotating in different directions, swallowing their respective tails. What's that about? And, again, I go to plasmas because if you look at the films, I put pictures of test shots during Operation Dominic. And, by the way, folks, I did a little talk about Operation Dominic with dark journalists. Go listen to that because there's a little something going on there, too. But, anyway, they fire off these hydrogen bombs. High up, almost completely out of the atmosphere. In other words, beyond the troposphere, beyond the stratosphere, way, way up there. They fire off these hydrogen bombs. And so they film, as the hydrogen bomb explodes, they're filming what's going on in the fireball, in the plasma. And what you see emerging inside the plasma are these filaments. And they, you can watch the films, and you'll see these filaments emerge, and they do it quickly, and they're like a little snake slithering along. So, in other words, what I'm suggesting is the tube phenomenon in plasma fireballs of nuclear weapons. That little tube phenomenon, if you're watching it to the ancient mind, could be understood to be a snake. Now, it's interesting to me that you have those two snakes swallowing their own tail. Because that, too, is a plasma phenomenon. It's a plasma pinch. Plasmas will pinch themselves with these filamentary structures into a kind of, here it comes, folks, into a kind of helix. And when they're doing that, oh, by the way, yes, I do think the double helix is a plasma phenomenon. It's telling you that there's something more beyond the actual physical DNA. I think it could be ultimately shown to be related to epigenetics. Okay? So, in other words, it's the geometry of the structure that may also be influencing the epigenetics of an organism. But anyway, you've got those two intertwined snakes in that Ourovorus. And they're going in opposite directions. Now, if you've been paying attention, folks, you know, I've been doing plasma physics in every one of my books. This is why it's front and center in the cosmic war. If you go back to the bell, what's going on in the bell? Counter-rotating Mercury. Counter-rotating what I think probably was some compound of thorium and mercury. All right? In other words, a perfect compound to turn into a plasma. You can make mercury plasmas and thorium plasmas very easily. And you're counter-rotating stuff. So, again, I think there's a little clue right there that somebody way back when may have known a heck of a lot more than just how to domesticate animals and grow corn in the Tigris-Euphrates Valley. And there is a spirituality, an unknown kind of bizarre spirituality to people engaging with plasmas and secret sciences and Tesla-type stuff, Nazi-type stuff. You know, the people who have gone there come out with some bizarre beliefs. And we can say that. They not only come out with bizarre beliefs, they come out with bizarre behavior. And I'm very serious. I'm glad you mentioned this, because when I was growing up as a boy, my parents were good friends with the chief engineer and his wife, the chief engineer of the local CBS television affiliate. And, by the way, it was the first local television affiliate in the country to have its own color broadcasting locally. And this engineer put it all together by himself. I mean, the guy, you know, this guy was the original garage tinkerer. He worked with the British, you know, during World War II on radar. So he had been around electrical systems most of his life. But the electrical systems that he had been around most of his life were all, of course, very high voltage. And he was a little dotty. There's no other way to put it. He was a little strange. Possessed. Well, not possessed. Just weird. Sure, sure. You know, it's odd that you mention this, Greg, because pretty much everyone that I've ever met in my life that's been around high voltage electrical systems for a while is a little weird. They really are. Who knows what it means? Yeah, it scrabbles the circuits or something. I don't know. But, yeah, I think something like that happens to people. Yeah, could be. And so this kind of does take us back to a time when these beings maybe were more active in our space, like all the biblical references. Egypt seemed to have all kinds of gods and stuff. The Cosmic War and the Cosmic Treaty of Versailles template are things we've talked about before. But some of the ancient descriptions, as you say, the things that Thunderbolts project people latch onto, like that could be what they're seeing as some kind of alive plasma. I guess one of my questions is, why don't we see this potential overarching plasma entity venerated more in and around the Great Pyramid? If this could be a habitat for something, I would expect there to be a god of the pyramid in the Egyptian pantheon or something like that. Actually, I think there was. If you look at certain phenomena in Egyptian history carefully, that is an excellent question. And I suspect that part of your question can be answered by a reference to the so-called heretic pharaoh, Akhenaten. Because what Akhenaten attempted to do was to restore the centrality of the sun god, quite literally. And what's the sun? Well, it's a big ball of plasma, folks. That's what it is. He attempted to restore the centrality of that god to Egyptian worship. Many people think that he was trying to get rid of Egyptian polytheism and restore a sun-based monotheism. As far as it goes, I think that's true. But I think if you view it in the template of this plasma life hypothesis and of this alternative hypothesis, I think what he was really trying to do was get back to what he perceived was the original focus of Egyptian religio-physics, if you want to put it that way. And we know what became of his experiment. It eventually supposedly died out. Actually, I don't think it ever really did die out. But I think you could view Akhenaten that way, as being someone that's attempting to restore the centrality of the sun and therefore get back to the original purpose of the pyramids. The original purpose of the pyramids, that compound at Giza, it's important for people to remember what I basically hypothesized about it following the work of other scholars. And that is the two big pyramids at Giza, in my opinion, predate Egypt by several thousand years. And that essentially that complex was taken over by the Egyptians, but the original purpose for the structures was lost. I think Akhenaten, in his own weird way, is attempting to restore that in Egyptian thinking. And of course, ultimately, the experiment fails, but he attempted it. Trying to make Egypt great again. Right. Oh, boy. Yes, don't go there, Greg. Oh, boy. Well, okay, so I will splice this back into the free show, but because it's your latest book, I know it could probably be a whole interview on its own, but I wanted to give you a little time to tell people about the Rialto in Richmond, The Money War Between the States and Other Mysteries of the Civil War. Just the back of the book, what does it cover? What are some of these mysteries that you refer to in that subtitle? Well, let me preface my comment by saying I have all but concluded, I knew it when I was writing the book, that I'd probably have to do a sequel. I've already contacted my publisher about the possibility of doing the sequel, and he's already said yes. So it's highly likely, God willing, that I will have another sequel to that book out next year. But the book itself, Rialto in Richmond, it started out because ever since I was a boy, my father, when we went to Washington, D.C., and I'm going around Harvey's barn again, but we went out there with my grandparents. My paternal grandmother was, I don't know what else to call her other than a Bonapartist confederate. She was French, first of all, so that's where the Bonaparte comes from. And she named my dad after the Emperor Maximilian in Mexico. No joke. My Uncle Bob's name was Robert Lee Farrell. That tells you where her sympathies lied. So anyway, we traipse out to the battlefield of First Manassas outside of Washington, D.C., or Bull Run, as it's known. I picked up the Confederate nomenclature for these battles. But anyway, we traipse out to the battlefield of Bull Run, and we're wandering around the battlefield, looking at all the cannons and reading all the plaques. And as we leave, we go through the gift shop. My dad bought me this packet of Confederate money. And it was actually well-made facsimile Confederate money. It's not the cheap parchment junk that you get now. And I still have a packet of it. And the money fascinated me because of what it said. And over the years, as I looked into the financial systems of the Union and the Confederacy, they were very similar, as a matter of fact. And there's been an aspect of the Civil War that always bothered me, and it was the finances. You know, and first of all, the South. How did the South finance this war effort? Literally overnight, literally out of nothing, and create a functioning government on top of all of this, and wage this war for as long as it did. So the book started out to be a book about the currency systems. But the more I read into it, Greg, the more I realized we're dealing here with a template of something massive and huge. And the country has never really recovered from it, ever. So the book changed as I was researching it. I delved very deeply into the assassination of President Lincoln, and then the flight of President Davis at the end of the war. And particularly the flight of President Davis is something radically different than we have been given to understand in the standard narrative. I can give away what I think it was, but I'm not going to give away why I think it, because the devil is in the details, and the details are really astounding. But Jefferson Davis' flight from Richmond after the surrender of General Lee at Appomattox, and that's another part of the tale we don't really know or understand, his flight was a continuity of government operation. Let me repeat that. His flight was a continuity of government operation for the South. That's exactly what it was. Provocative? You have no idea. Saying that doesn't even cover it. The assassination of President Lincoln. There are disturbing things about that. Why was Jefferson Davis' citizenship restored, posthumously? Guess who did it? Lincoln. Jimmy Carter. Oh, Carter. That's a long wait. That's a long wait. Man, I'm definitely interested in it, because you can see a parallel. Well, first off, there might be a parallel to the whole thing of like, well, the Nazis lost the war on paper, but there's a continuity. You get the prize. Fair. But there's also another layer where we can see right in our own timeline how one side of things can just so aggressively call the other side racists and bigots and fascists. And then, you know, history is written by the winners on paper. So you have this thing where it's like, you know, you can't call half the country just you're racists and bigots and that's all there is to it. I'm like, no, we have a different argument. And you won't let us have that argument because you keep doing these straw man things to us. The other reason I'm doing a sequel is that I want to address specifically that issue, particularly in terms of Reconstruction, because from what I've gathered in researching all of this, there was far more racism in the South after the war and as a result of Reconstruction than there was before it. Jefferson Davis is a really fascinating dude. I mean, the more I read about this guy, the more I'm impressed with him as a man because he was one of these Southern advocates for what he called the high road to emancipation. In other words, eventual manumission of all Negro servants and slaves inside of the South. Because at his plantation, he was teaching all of his slaves how to read and then he basically turned over the entire management and functioning of his plantation to them, including setting up their own courts so that if any punishment had to be meted out to a slave, it was the other slaves that tried it and decided what the punishment could be. He took a kind of hands-off, let them learn how to do this so that when the time comes, they can enter society and do it. That was his approach. So Davis is a really, really strange guy. And he was the first and only Confederate president for people who don't know. Yeah, but you've got to remember he was Secretary of War under President Pierce. He was a veteran in the Mexican-American War. He was a U.S. Senator from Mississippi. So in other words, the man had political cachet in both sections of the country prior to the Civil War. You know, he wrote Greek and Latin verse. I mean, you know that. Not some hick. He wasn't a hick, no. No, definitely not. But he's a very interesting man. And then, you know, putting Davis aside and you turn to Lincoln. You know, again, I've gained some new respect and admiration for President Lincoln simply because of, let me put it very bluntly, all the turds in the punch bowl that he had in his cabinet. I mean, you talk about a swamp full of snakes that surrounded the man. It's really, just think Edwin Stanton, his Secretary of War for a starter. I mean, that guy. You just have to read the book. And as a result of raising certain of the questions in the book that I didn't resolve, I've determined I've got to do a sequel because there are some unresolved questions. And I've got to tell you something. The final little bit of the trip around Harvey's barn here is that I didn't even write the Rialto in Richmond until about two weeks before I actually wrote it. The book was written in two weeks because I was looking for one piece of information that everything else I had assembled told me was out there. I just couldn't find it to verify. And I was very frustrated because it meant that I may not have been able to finish the book. Finally, a book worked its way to the top of my reading pile. And it was a book published in 1907. And when I read it, bang, everything resolved itself. And in fact, it did so in such a way that my only reaction in the book was to put a gigantic exclamation mark in about 36 pitch just so the reader understands that's how significant what this little discovery is. Heck yeah. I like it. And it's that little discovery that makes the sequel necessary because we're not done with Jeff Davis and Abe Lincoln. Well, that is a great pitch. I think a lot of people probably have curiosities about the Civil War that have never really been satisfied. And not a lot of people are writing from this perspective. So I think that's awesome. And lastly, of course, people can always tune in to your news and views from the Nefarium. And sometimes we don't talk about your membership site enough in these interviews. I've gotten a lot out of it. Amazing webinars and presentations on almost everything. Weekly vid chats of people firing questions at you for almost three hours. But tell the people what they get as a Giza community member. Well, the membership, it gives you access to stuff I put up occasionally. There's no set schedule for what I put up in the members area. But in the members area, you'll find things like a webinar on the Louisiana Purchase and why that's so fishy. And it really is, if you ever look into it. There's a webinar on Islam. There's a webinar on the doctrine of original sin. I mean, you know, there's all sorts of stuff in the members area that are not public. And they go back several years. And again, I post things like that when I have the time and the energy to post because it takes a lot of work. But the other thing they get access to are the vid chats. The vid chats are for me and paying members. And that's everybody's opportunity to fire questions at me or comments after me. And we interact in these vid chats. And they're more than your typical chat with a radio host. They're deep. They are very deep. You know, I have a really good group of people on my website. They're very, very sharp, smart, observant people. And to me, Greg, I kid with them that they're my social life, those vid chats. And it's true. They really are. So that's what they get. And the other thing is I have not raised the price for membership on my website since we started. It's $12.99 a month, but I think it's below most websites and it's worth what you get as a result. Yes, I encourage everybody to check it out. It's a well-made system as well. Some systems are very clunky and haven't been updated in forever and they don't function as they should and it can be frustrating. But I always tell people when I'm making my pitch, you don't have to be a member forever. Try it out. If you like what Joseph Farrell does, try it out, even just for a couple of months as an attaboy, as a thank you, a tip of the hat. And maybe you end up getting so into those vid chats that you just can't get them out of your life. Yeah, there are some people that are that way and the vid chat archives go all the way back to when we first started as far as I know. And few people I interview are as multifaceted. I mean, we can talk plasmas, we can talk Civil War. I mean, you're all over the place. And they do. You know, they put me through my paces. It's quite an interesting group of people. In the members area, you'll find some of my music that I've recorded for people. So, you know, it's a grab bag of stuff that interests me. And, you know, if it interests you, go for it. It's a fun site. Yes. Well, you got so much stuff there for everybody and definitely a book in your repertoire for anybody on any subject for the most part. And it is about that time. But you're one of the greats, definitely on the Mount Rushmore of guests around here. Thanks again. Keep doing what you do. And I already look forward to the next project. All right, Greg. Thanks for having me back. Yeah. Give our best to Shiloh as well. He's right under my chair. Goodness gracious. Great balls of fire. A nice little follow up to the Giza Death Star revisited interview last year. It was the free plus show last month. If you heard it in your feed, I hope it gave a bit more context for the overall idea he's working from. And I figured that plus the election made for a good reason to get him back. I knew he'd have some things to say about the changing of the guard. And I'm pretty much on his page that it's the technocratic stuff we really have to worry about. It's been that way for a few years now, I guess. But I do get the vibe there was a meeting where they said, look, we're kind of losing ground on a wide range of DEI, woke, culture issues. Why don't we just narrow it down to what is most important, the control grid, and find a compromise that can work under Trump. The guy loves to make deals. I'm sure they found a way to make it work. Or, first off, he probably wouldn't have won. And second, like Gordon White said, there probably would have been a more organized resistance movement. It's all gone pretty quiet except for the individual TikTok meltdowns. And there's also a lot of interesting flip-flopping from mainstream media mouthpieces, right? Whoopi Goldberg has softened her stance and that other View host has had to issue several legal retractions for the shit she was saying. And then Morning Joe and Mika basically went to Mar-a-Lago and bent the knee and they were the most aggressive shit-talkers. It's become pretty clear they didn't mean half of what they said. They really didn't think Trump was the threat they were presenting him to be. They were just shilling for their team. And it seems like now someone from on high came and told them to back off or they're going to lose their jobs. So I pretty much align with what Joseph Farrell and Gordon White have been saying. Besides, when you get shot at and the full weight of the legal system is levy at you, I'm sure you find ways to compromise. Gordon made that point about pivoting to NATO as a mechanism to achieve some of the globalist goals and I see that in the headlines too. Speaking of Gordon, we actually talked about doing a plasma show together with Dr. Farrell earlier in the year. I think it was overlapping with a lot of the unexpected personal stuff in my life so it didn't come together. Sorry about that but I would like to hear more from Gordon on the plasma topic. Since he has more magical experience and study, I'm curious how well he thinks that all fits together. But as for Dr. Farrell's overall premise, it's a really fun idea that not only was the great pyramid an oscillator weapon but that messing with the field on that level attracts these so-called angels slash demons slash plasma beings and as he would say it's way out there on the twig of speculation but he makes a pretty strong case. Some of it's over my head but that's par for the course around here too. Just saying that the great pyramid became a plasma habitat is if nothing else a very unique premise given how much talk about the pyramids there has been and knowing that just the geometry of a pyramid has an etheric atmospheric energy effect is something that makes me think his premise is within the realm of possibility. I still think there would be more reverence for this being in Egyptian culture like when you see the nameplate above a doghouse you know but he had an answer for that too and who knows maybe that's what the Sphinx was all along. Of course we got a lot deeper in the second hour we talked about Akhenaten and his agenda in this context of Joseph's premise we talked about nukes, UFOs and the cosmic quarantine that comes out of his cosmic war hypothesis really the overarching premise that he works with we got into Richard Hoagland's hyperdimensional physics and how it relates man I loved that UN speech so much I had to read almost the whole transcript but that's crazy right? then we talked Sirius as a portal and Starz's portals in general how this demon in the acre work adds context to the bizarre mass rituals we see all good stuff well worth the price of admission become a Plus member and get the full two hour interviews as they were designed to be links right there in the show notes it was always important to me to do this job without the sponsors and the ad agencies and because of Plus members I can it's a beautiful thing granted I have been presented with some numbers that are pretty hard to ignore regarding ads but I'm still holding my ground I am curious what people would think if say the free show had ads in it my colleagues don't seem to be held back by it at all I know I've talked a lot of shit but the industry of podcasting has shown me to probably be making too big a deal about it I don't know my own audience kind of tells me that when tens of thousands of listeners just hear the first hour and say nah I'm good week after week if I put a few ads in there it becomes basically like every other show but at least I get a benefit from the free version and it only makes Plus a better deal I don't know guys kids change things I have to provide for this family at least until they're 18 in a climate that's looking increasingly uncertain I'm doing fine today will I be doing fine in 5 years 10 years I don't know is it a big deal if I tell you about a new mattress company before we get into the interview I'm not sure you know I'm just spitballing really though but I had two colleagues set me down recently and open up about their numbers and it just boggles my mind that it's that lucrative but anyway that's a future me thing to think about back to this really happy to get Dr. Farrell back he is truly one of my favorite guys to listen to if you agree his weekly vid chats with his own members are excellent he's just someone who I want to see appreciated to the fullest I believe he's involved with a webinar conference coming up that Walter Bosley is running Walter is going to live stream from Disney during it you know because he has that book Latitude 33 about Disney being designed originally to be extra energetically potent I actually jumped the gun and sent an email out to him to ask if I could just hold his camera or something during that but I know he's based in California so he probably means the Anaheim Park not the Orlando one but so much of my life has changed with the move I get excited about the idea of new projects and all that but we'll see might turn out that I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time yet again in higher side news I went to the Sam Tripoli show this past weekend and there were a lot of THC listeners there that was really great I got to treat the two guys that work on the website for me to a nice night out we got to hang out in the green room smoke joints in the parking lot all the things but I've just been very thankful for all the upgrades they've made to the website to the plus system the tokenized RSS feed is a real game changer no more usernames and passwords I know I never shut up about it but it's really nice and I wanted to thank them for it I guess I considered it the higher side chats holiday Christmas party for employees but we all had a really good time with that and then checking in on the last episode and how plus people felt about it and that would be Michael Hoffman the cryptocracy twilight language and public psychodrama rituals seems like an absolutely perfect guest and topic for us and the rating reflects that 4.7 right in the sweet spot that we see so much but that was a personal favorite for me a real milestone and a guest on the dream list that I can cross off and I might have even done a good enough job to get him back and with that let's look at the meetup calendar December 19th the coral tree in Los Angeles and December 20th there's an event at the Imperial in Goleta California Goleta Goleta I'm not sure I'm sure the locals know and then December 21st bar none in Denver Colorado and then we do have two in January January 11th on the big island of Hawaii at Ola Brew the people are getting together and then also on January 11th Raleigh North Carolina at the Raleigh Brewing Company go out mingle with some mutual THC fans plenty of topics and guests to talk about maybe some local networking find some local resources and support some local businesses it's a win win win win win go to Hireside meetups.com to get more details about any of those events or to make your own but that's the show thank you for listening support Joseph Farrell with a book purchase or try out his membership and get into those vid chats it would be nice to be able to ask him questions directly right without even having to start a podcast and that is the place to do it but that's two episodes locked in for December three to go enjoy the holidays and I'll catch you next time your move pyramid weapon wielders cosmic war wagers and sentient plasma pet keepers your fucking move we built we built a weapon beyond comprehension an interplanetary pyramid of mass destruction but what do you know now we're not alone some cosmic monster came and made it a home so hey I wouldn't go in there please mind the demon in the acre it's a fierce and unforgiving beast we woke a true earth shaker so no don't open the door you probably should stay outside it's an epic cosmic horror and there is nowhere to hide what have we done the gods will curse us we cannot control it now even pharaoh's getting nervous we opened hell and brought the demon in if the war comes at this cost can we ever truly win so hey I wouldn't go in there please mind the demon in the acre it's a fierce and unforgiving beast we woke a true earth shaker so no don't open the door you probably should stay outside it's an epic cosmic horror and there is nowhere to hide we woke a true earth shaker so no don't open the door you probably should stay outside it's an epic cosmic horror and there is nowhere to hide