Elana Freeland | The Geoengineered Transhuman, Occult Tech, & The Scientific Effort To Transform Reality

Well, hello party people. Just a quick announcement about the Higher Side Chats Rune Soup Mashup Meetup coming up on Saturday, March 8th. The Crazy Wizard did it and Gordon is coming to the Swamplands of Florida and we're doing a talk slash live podcast slash meetup event for free. I can't remember the last time I went to any free event, but the guys at High Springs Brewing have made it easy on us and we want to bring them some business and get together with as many people as we can while we can. So it's not just limited to plus and premium members this time like past events were. And if you don't know High Springs, it's a little north of Gainesville, but if you're in the Tampa area and don't want to drive yourself, Gordon and I are getting the party started early and taking a bus up there. It will be picking up in front of the Tampa Theater at 10 a.m. It should arrive at the brewery sometime around 12 or 1230 and the event will go till about 5 and then the bus will bring us all back and we'll land in Tampa again around 7 or so. I picked the Tampa Theater for the pickup location because most people know where it is. There's a nice park across the street to smoke a little smoke and there's a great breakfast sandwich shop right on the corner called Supernatural, which Alton Brown called the best breakfast sandwich in America and I'll take it. So a perfect storm of great day starting goodness. So again, the event itself is free, no ticket needed, but the bus is not. A bus ticket is 75 bucks and I think it's about a third sold out already. So hop on that if you're interested, the bus is drink friendly and as a bathroom on board. So it's about as convenient as can be. And Gordon will be coming hot off the heels of another ayahuasca journeying ceremony weekend. 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And we already have a pretty good idea how the big machine feels about us and what the parasitic controller class has done historically to systematically and incrementally make people sicker, weaker and dumber. But it's getting much harder these days to discern what is even possible, given the claims we hear about weather weapons, geoengineering, ionospheric heating, EMFs, and 5G, mRNA technology, nanosprays, biofilms, chemical fog, synthetic biology, smart dust, space fences, and a wide range of technologies cooked up by the military industrial complex, their telecom cutouts, and the black magicians of big pharma. We sure know what they'd like to do, but what can they do? Do we maybe sometimes give them too much credit as being all-powerful? Or do we not take these technological tiptoes towards transhumanism seriously enough? Well, in an effort to not end up two steps behind on this seemingly steady path towards 15-minute smart cities in an Internet of Everything constantly connected digital control grid, we're checking in once again with the great writer, researcher, Steiner advocate, and Waldorf education pioneer, Elana Freeland. She's the mind behind great works like Chemtrails, HAARP, and the full-spectrum dominance of planet Earth, Under an Ionized Sky, From Chemtrails to Space Fence Lockdown, Geoengineered Transhumanism, How the Environment Has Been Weaponized by Chemicals, Electromagnetics, and Nanotechnology for Synthetic Biology, and the very soon-to-be-released, The Geoengineered Transhuman, The Hidden Technologies of HAARP, Chemtrails, 5G, 6G, Nanotechnology, Synthetic Biology, and the Scientific Effort to Transform Humanity. She's also done great work on MKUltra, Targeted Individuals, and Satanic Ritual Abuse, and she was even the editor behind James Shelby Downard's autobiography, The Carnivals of Life and Death. Here she is to break down the latest information on the geoengineering of everything, the transhumanism technology teacher, capstone cabal critic, and synthetic biology educator, Elana. Welcome back. Wow, what an introduction. It's almost embarrassing. I feel like you need a lexicon in order to even talk to me. It gets a little wordy, but you know, wordy is what I do best. And it is a pleasure. We had an interview in 2017 and another one in 2021, and now another four years later, we're at it again. As your new book, The Geoengineered Transhuman, is releasing, you've been dedicated to this specific subject for a long time. What would you say this new book adds to the understanding of those who are already familiar with your other books on these topics? Well, I'm relentlessly now pursuing relationship between what's geoengineered and what is delivered above us from the sky for us to breathe and drink and eat in our food and how it has to do with synthetic biology. This is the key to the future, in my opinion. I know everybody talks about AI, and I certainly talk about AI myself, but my main worry now is really the difference between synthetic and natural. And the reason I'm now very concerned is because of the jabs that happened four years ago and continued for the next three years. And then now looks like, unbelievably, they're going to start up again. It's been quite the amazing experience to see how you can divide a nation and, in fact, an entire world in every nation between people who believe the gospel of the mainstream media without any consideration that it might be lies, even though other times they're talking to their neighbor and explaining how they know the media is lying about this, that, or the other. Despite that, they will still buy the program. And we saw billions of people line up and take a jab that had not been proven, that was actually admittedly experimental, and yet they did it. They had all sorts of humanitarian reasons. And what they didn't know and which I'm bringing forward is the relationship between the jab and what's coming down from the sky. That's key. Yes. I'm glad you said that because I had this in my notes that I'd heard you say that in another interview, and I wanted to get deeper into not only what that relationship is specifically, but also you mentioned that it seems like they're going to start it back up again. Are you talking about the bird flu? Is that the guise of it this time? Yeah, that's one of them. I mean, I'm sure we're going to hear others because they made so much money. And it's not just the money, though. So let me be clear about that. It's also that as far as I'm concerned, because I'm in touch now with two doctors who are relentlessly pursuing microscopy regarding what's really in human blood. Of the vexed and the un-vexed. Doesn't seem to matter. And what we're finding is that the human blood is no longer what it used to be. It's kind of the same thing, only much more serious. The fact that when you look up at the sky, I'll bet you still think you're looking at the clouds of your childhood, that those are clouds. Those are not clouds. Those are plasma formations being done in our ionized sky. I've proven that six ways to Sunday, that our sky is entirely ionized now, because we absolutely, we being the American military, and I would go so far as to say the NATO countries, that makes more sense than just the US. The NATO countries have the technology that controls the ionosphere. And the ionosphere is between 50 and 800, I think 800 miles up, all the way into the magnetosphere. These are sort of protective, I almost want to call them spiritual bodies, because you know I'm a Steiner person. So I see these as being, the earth is alive, you put a seed in the ground, and boom, you're going to have a plant. Now, if that isn't magic, or, you know, the most magical biology you can imagine, because otherwise, people treat the planet like it's dead, like it's just a thing, and you can take the minerals out of it, and you can do whatever you want, and it really doesn't matter. I want to consistently move toward, and this next book I'm writing already, I have a new publisher, Inner Traditions, and I'm committed to them for two books. I did the one that's out now, in February, and then I'm writing the companion volume to that book, which is about, again, geoengineering secondarily as part of synthetic biology, and because both programs are run by big pharma. So we're sandwiched between two programs that are going on, neither of which is good for us, and both of which are completely protected by being so-called national security, and who knows. So the one is the geoengineering program that I've written three books about so far, with the fourth coming out this month, and the other one is the synthetic biology, and the synthetic biology entails the nanotechnology. Now, that's a very big part of it. The nanotechnology is something we've had around probably, I would say, since the 70s. Very quiet, the military doing its voodoo with the nanotech because there are many advantages to using nanotechnology, not the least of which is that it's so tiny, and you can therefore ferret it in and out of various technologies, and people don't even know that's there. That's one of the big things to me is I can't be so confident about things I can't see. I read your book. I love it. It's so dense and full of information, and a lot of it is patents, and this guy at San Diego State University invented smart dust at this time. And so it's not really a matter of do I doubt the technologies exist, but sometimes it's presented as already fully functional and ubiquitous in our environment. And obviously, that's just kind of scary. So we want that to not be true, but if it is true, I'd want to know. But that's where it seems hard to verify. I don't doubt they've invented smart dust, but I want to know how I can verify if it's ubiquitous in my environment. If I can't see it, it's hard to do. Well, and this is part of the problem of how we've all been dumbed down over the decades. I actually remember when they started dumbing Americans down. I noticed it because I'm almost a student of my times, right? I was a 60s person. We were all aware that the establishment was something you did not trust at all, and you studied in order to find out what things really were because we knew they lied. We knew it. This is not news to us. It didn't come in the last four years to learn that experts lie. But what made us dumbed down in a way that is not good is that we didn't really learn to think in school. Most Americans don't know how to think, truthfully. Yeah, they can add up a grocery list, and they can do their income tax, kind of. And they can do certain functionary tests with thinking, but not the thinking where you're going into the abstracts and figuring out the laws and the forces of this plane of existence of our world. We didn't learn how to do that. You simply did a multiple choice test or fill in the blanks and called it knowledge. Well, that's not knowledge. That's rudimentary. So the reason this counts in this particular question that you have is when you're doing concepts, and I'm a concept lover. I love concepts. I'm very comfortable in the university. I called it the big tit, the university, because I loved it. I was very good at it. I would hold forth, and half the class would hate me because I got it down. I had it down. But when you're dealing with things like this, and that's how I can write four books from basically dint of study, and then letting it sort of simmer, and then letting the things that go together go together, and the things that don't go together don't go together, and then pretty soon I'm looking at it again with my thinking again, and it's all making sense. That's how you do it where you don't have access to NASA. You don't have access to going up in spaceships in order to see what's going on up there. You have this ability to follow the trail, like a Sherlock Holmes detective story. You follow the trail, and you ask questions, and you go to other resources, and you see what they said, and you see what this guy said, and what this person said, and then it all sort of falls together. There's an order in this world that people don't know is here. You know, the sun rises every day, you know, it says. We see evidence of the order of the universe every day, but we somehow have not been taught to follow how these things work so that you have the confidence that you can't see these tiny nanobots. You can't see these tiny microbes or even the cell itself that our bodies are made of billions of them, but if you can follow the concepts of these things, then you will know how they work, and you will know when some third agent has come in and is manipulating that natural sequence. You will know it. Well, I like to think conceptually, I understand, like, if we go through your work, you got HARP. HARP is like a big antenna array. Anyone can see it. Its effects, you know, maybe aren't as obvious to people because they don't really telegraph, but then chemtrails, obviously, you can look up in the sky and see that it's just a whole grid pattern all over the sky, and that's not the traditional sky we're used to. That you can see, but then we get to biofilms and nanotechnology and smart dust, and it's like, well, I conceptually understand that that's real. I've seen patents and heard presentations where they say, we invented this, but it's that getting to the point that is it in every state in all air? Is it possible that I go out in my backyard and I'm not breathing it in? You mentioned these biofilms in a previous interview that they're blocking our pores and they're on our skin, but is that something, is there a test for it? I mean, can I get an air quality test meter? It's not going to pick up things like smart dust. Like, that's the thing, is how can I verify to friends and family who might be open and might conceptually be totally on board, but how can I say, hey, this is not just a concept, this is true. The chemtrails, we see them right there. The other more complex stuff, it's hard to know if it's just conceptual still or active, and I want to be able to prove to people it's active. Is there anything? Well, yeah, of course there is. I mean, you know, all these papers I read and all the hearsay, and of course the patents, but patents are not really proof, because a lot of patents are still sitting there and haven't been called for yet. So to me, I'm most comfortable if I can follow like a law, and if I don't have a law that I understand or that I have all the details, enough details of to understand, then I look for patterns, and I follow the patterns, and then they generally lead to getting deeper into other patterns. So if you're not willing to do the work, you're turning to the wrong person for sympathy. I don't have any sympathy for people who would rather watch a football match on a Saturday afternoon and chill out. Having worked hard all week, I get it. You know, this idea that I think that's where America has really failed itself is that we tend to think in a sort of paradigm of work and entertainment or recreation or a vacation. You know, there's this other part in life between those two poles where you're actually trying to figure out why in the hell you're even here. And those sort of metaphysical questions are really, you want to understand who I am. That's who I am. I was born in this time. Not until I was, I don't know if I told you this before, Greg, but not until I was 60 did I learn that my father, who was an inorganic chemist, University of Missouri professor, he worked for Navy Intelligence his whole life, his whole adult life. He was their boy, and he worked on their projects, and they were all classified. Now, I wrote his second wife and asked her if she knew that when he would take all those trips. No, she didn't know. None of us knew. And yet here I am knocking myself out to study classified programs on the internet with little pieces here and there scattered around like Osiris's body and the myth of ISIS and Osiris in Egypt. And then I find out that the reason I'm studying electromagnetic weapons and MK-ULTRA and all the things that have happened to people that have been lied about and hidden, that the reason I'm doing that is because my father was buried in naval intelligence. And I know a lot about naval intelligence because I studied MK-ULTRA. You can't study MK-ULTRA without finding out the incredible role that the Navy played in messing with people's heads. So that's kind of how I look at it is it's hard stuff to do. And I'm bringing you the best I got. I go down as far as I can go. And then, yeah, it's up to you to keep going. I mean, you're going to have to look at it yourself. And I have scientists, maybe a dozen, I would say, a dozen scientists who have left the fold, left the PhD assumptions and conditioning and programming, and now are really digging into alternative sources like me, because they can follow my head. They can follow where my head is going. Because other people are thinking, oh, well, she needs a lot of charts. We need a lot of numbers. We need a lot of measurement. We need a lot of lab work. We need a lot. No, no, we don't. In fact, we can't do that. That's how the bad guys get away with these large projects for decades, is you can't check their work. Yeah, that's the frustrating thing. Yeah. And so, you know, you have to go further and realize what you can do as a common person. And that's why I often ask people or back when I used to tell stories to kids and young adults, I would say, how many of you in here can when I tell this story can really you're seeing things in your mind? You're seeing the story unfold in your mind. Very few kids. Very few. How many of you can picture what I'm saying if you just go from the words alone? You're analyzing the words. Oh, well, almost everyone. So, we've been hoodwinked by a type of education which has really shut us off from our imagination. Our imagination will then head for drugs in order to stimulate it. We'll head for alcohol, for sex, for anything extreme that will kick that into gear again, that imaginative realm that we seem to be absolutely forbidden to enter now in the conceptual way. Yes. And we've outsourced a lot of that imagination to Disney, who's happy to try to fill it with trash. But in the book, you write that the best summary of everything, because we got to back up a little bit for people who maybe aren't as familiar, who didn't just read the book like I did. You say the best summary of everything is probably Clifford Carnicum's seven geoengineering operations, which are weather slash climate, chemical slash electromagnetic, planetary slash geophysical, directed energy weapons, surveillance, surveillance, neural manipulation, nanotechnology slash digital syn-bio, synthetic biology, and transhumanism, and then cloaking slash detection of exotic propulsion craft and plasma life forms. Definitely interested in that last one. But in terms of the relationships, like maybe there's a relationship, like you said, about what is going in the sky and what was in the jab. Well, broaden this out a little bit with these seven operations. What's the relationship between all of this stuff? Well, the main part of that is that with the ionized sky and with an entirely wireless civilization now, dependent on wireless beams of energy carrying data, that you're using the sky as their lab and a theater for bread and circuses. Remember the bread and circuses thing to control the masses. So you've got this ability to a big theater and then you've also got a big lab and you own the media ever since the CIA took over the media in the 70s under Operation Mockingbird. You know, the media is completely owned, block, stock, and barrel by the intelligence agency. So they can run propaganda to explain things. They can run lies, deception, anything they want. If they don't want you to know the truth about something, they will hit you with that. They can also do surprise. I mean, weren't you surprised when suddenly all these incredibly sophisticated drones show up in New Jersey? Boom, there they are. All these drones and they're as serious looking as hornets. You know, it's like you want to run the other way because they're not tiny drones. They're not the toys that kids use. Then right after that, and you always have to pay attention to the time slot, was the fog. Remember the hem fog? Yep. Was in certain places, not everywhere, but in certain places, very heavy. In fact, so heavy that there were shards of some sort of white material that were peeling off from places where the fog had been particularly heavy. Now, all that, to me, that's the stuff that I am totally all over because the devil's in the details, right? If you weren't taught well in school, which I can tell you you weren't, you can then turn to the details and start cataloging and start really questioning, not looking for what so-and-so says about it or what Ilana Freeland says about it, but just looking at the details and starting to get back into your perceptions where you're really trying to figure these things out. So when you're seeing that I say that all this stuff is happening and coming down from the sky, yeah, you're not going to see all of that, but you can study the words like Clifford Carnicombs. He has a site called Carnicombsinstitute.org in which all his papers are there with lots and lots and lots of little film clips and photographs, and you start following his train of thought. Now, if you're following just one person, they generally have a way of thinking that is pretty much standard for them. They might surprise you now and then, but it'll be rare. So, you know, that's a really good exercise to do is to study one guy that you think might be onto it. And I've known Clifford since 2005, and we've been working together all these years on various parts of this until we both have now. In a way, you could see it this way, right? You read about Morgellons back in the first book, Hemp Trails Harp and the Full Spectrum Dominance of Planet Earth. There is a big section on Morgellons. I'm talking about Clifford Carnicombs' work. And now, boom, years later, we're returning to synthetic biology, which is exactly what Morgellons was. It was the first outlier of synthetic biology, and it got its claws into some people in ways that they even died from it. So we have returned to the scene of the crime, the original crime, but now we have oodles of those things, all synthetic biology, and only the people who are doing the microscopy work with really good microscopes, and they're expensive, to see this tiny world where we're talking bio-warfare, using that tiny creature to create a transhuman. And that's what we have going since the jab rounds of the four years that we went through that. We now have a transhuman race underway. Now, was it the full whammy? I don't know that. I only know that certain things were in that serum that are definitely creating are taking the place of their real veins, their real arteries, their real cells, and it's all synthetic. So let's wake up and smell the coffee, even though it's the kind of coffee we really don't like. Right, right. Well, let me ask you this. You said that you're in touch with a couple of doctors who are looking at the blood, and it's no different, vaxxed or unvaxxed. And I heard you say in a previous interview that the shedding is real, but there's a lot of misinformation about it. So I'm curious what the defining truth is about the shedding, what the misinformation is, because obviously a lot of people didn't get the jab and they're happy they didn't, but now it's in the food supply. I mean, it just seems like unavoidable, but what's the truth about shedding? Well, to me, I'm a real science person. I won't call myself a scientist because in these days you think you have a PhD or whatever, but I've always been scientifically oriented to look at what the evidence is, which way the evidence is pointing. And then if suddenly something happens where the evidence doesn't seem to be pointing in that direction anymore, I don't lose any pride and I'm not serving my career as a scientist. I go in the direction the evidence points. And that's what I'm in now. Okay. The first thing I learned, and this, I really thank Dr. Tom Cowan, MD, and Dr. Andy Kaufman, MD. These two guys have written and done the lion's share of work on presenting the postulate that there is no virus as we've been taught. I'll add that last part because it looks like you can make something through gain of function. You're familiar with that term, right? Oh, of course. Yes. Yeah. The gain of function that has to do with, you're going to bring this to patenting and therefore it's going to make money for you because it's absolutely illegal to change anything natural into something that is synthetic. It's supposedly illegal. But if you're doing a gain of function and it's just to help it get a little better at what it already does, which is really not what they're doing at all, I have to say. It really isn't. Then it's legal. So imagine this. You have some bacteria or you have some proteins and you want to create a pathogen. So you put it through a gain of function technology, either heat and chemicals or radiation or who knows how. And then it comes out the other end and you decide you're going to call it a virus and you're going to name it Ebola virus or you're going to name it another virus. And then everybody believes that's a natural pathogen, a natural creature that has now turned bad for humans. That's kind of how virus are done. And there is no real virus. Yes, this is over 100 years they've been using virus in order to fill the coffers of the medical industry and big pharma industry. And Tom and Andy called that out. And of course, it's very hard for doctors who've been trained in the medical way. And that training, I would call it conditioning myself. And it's very hard for them to give that up because think about it. All of medicine is based on it, that you're going to be attacked. You're going to be attacked and they've got the drugs that will help you. And so that's the problem with the virus. You get rid of the virus. You take the virus out of the picture, except we have to remember there are gain of function now because we're heading in a synthetic direction. And then now we need to really look at how this all works to make us sick, make us stand in line to get a jab and maybe what they would put in the serum for the jab that would make it so they could control people who had the jab. And then the people where there's a shedding thing going on. And that makes sense to me that they would make it that way, that they knew there were going to be lots of people who would not have that jab. They knew that. So they made that jab have the capability of affecting others. Now, how did they do that? Well, I don't need the virus for this. I don't need to think they caught it. I don't need to think that. I can think that it's in the environment. They're breathing for one thing. They're touching things for another. In fact, there's a James Bond film out. I had to buy it in order to see two scenes about nanotechnology. I think it's called something about time to die is the name of it. Apt title. Yeah. That's what I thought too. And in that, you see these scenes, you see this one where a woman obviously has something on her skin and she goes and she touches a guy and then, you know, it's Hollywood. And so they make it that he just kind of falls over. And that's the idea of the nanotech there. Then they have the nanotech that can be completely aerosolized and put over a very large area and everyone just drops. So these two pre-programming moments in this film had a lot for me because the shedding can be done that way as well. But there's another thing they need, not a virus, not just it's in the air and it's in their bodies and it's in their saliva and it's in their vaginas and it's in all where there's moisture. No, they need electromagnetism in order to do transfers of this, in order to build places where people will gather. And now you've got them all in an electromagnetic field. And now you can maybe press a button, maybe activate one part of one person's blood and suddenly everybody picks it up. So we're talking frequencies here. And what we're looking at is a new type of frequency war. We used to have the Star Wars picture from the 1977 trilogy of films by George Lucas, you know, where disintegration. So we had that pre-programming quite early that you can do that. And now we're going to see it. And we've probably already seen it without knowing what we've seen. But if we keep that in mind for the shedding, then we understand that if you, and I had the experience of this, that I'll just very briefly tell you, went into an eyeglass shop to see if they would help test eyes. Because I just wear these throwaway glasses that cost $3 or whatever. And I wanted to see if they would test my eyes. And so I really have some data. And as I'm standing there, there's a woman sitting and near her is her mother who's dropped in to say hello. So very nice ladies. And they're talking with me and I'm standing there talking with them. And then suddenly the mother moves over to a place where now I would say I'm being triangulated. I would say it's about the six feet that they used to keep us apart from. Remember? Yep. There was a reason they chose six feet. And I'm about six feet from the mother and the mother is six feet from her daughter and her daughter is six feet from me. Now it's triangulated. And suddenly I am hit by a wave of nausea. Now I don't have a weak stomach. So I realized I'm in the electromagnetic field of these two vaxxed ladies. And I need to get out of here. Because I thought I was going to throw up. So I very nicely thanked them. And I backed out of the store and went out the door. And as soon as I'm outside, outside of that electromagnetic field, I'm fine. And that was my moment of aha, regarding the electromagnetic aspect of this. Yes, that is super interesting. And I want to get into the mind control stuff too, because it's crazy how specific it can be. But to quote your book, you write, it is difficult for civilian populations to grasp that they too are undergoing 24-7 3D battlefield monitoring that begins with reading their DNA signatures from space. Some of the 8,800 satellites already up are blue beam satellites with electro-optical capabilities for intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance, and electronic warfare producing MK-Ultra artificial thoughts and images in brains below. On board each satellite is a quantitative electroencephalograph that reads individual brain signatures called evoked potentials by tagging a signal onto the target's nano antennas far below. Once the signal attaches, the target's DNA standing wave retreats, thus announcing the exact biosignature or evoked potential. This is part of the under-the-skin surveillance scenario promised by transhumanism advocate Yuval Harari. And I have seen montages of Harari saying, surveillance has now gone under the skin. Control has now gone under the skin. He says it all the time. And you can find people making these montages. So that's not in question, but man, some of these details, it's just, I mean, I know you're in contact with people having done this work for so long that kind of feeds you information that the rest of us can't get. You're used to looking at classified documents and this sort of stuff. I mean, a lot of this probably is classified, but elaborate on the abilities they have with these satellites to apparently not only read our DNA signatures from space, but produce artificial thoughts and images in individual people's brains that are being targeted. That's pretty specific stuff. Very specific. And it's actually connected to that question you had about, you know, when all this is going on, because it's also tiny and invisible with all the radio waves and microwaves, how do you know that's what it is? I mean, it's connected to that. This idea that something is so sophisticated and you've been kept in the dark for pretty much all your life. How can you make that jump to light speed? And more important perhaps is what good will it do you? Will you have any choice? Like say, oh, no, thank you. No, please take your satellite beam and go somewhere else and bother someone else. No, because the only thing I can think of is I just get stronger and stronger the more I know. I think that's how knowledge really is meant to be dealt with. I've said for years and I sign books at book signings, you know, in conferences and things. Scientia es potencia. Knowledge is power. I say it over and over, but I think it's true. And I think that's why they don't want us to know and why they're not going to give us the means by which our thinking capacity is so good and not afraid to march into places where we don't even know what the translation of the frequencies is. We don't even understand that. We don't understand what a frequency really is. If we're listening to music, we understand it. We understand the frequency there. But can we transfer it into another knowledge set where we don't have a PhD? We don't have a master's degree. We don't know what books to read. In fact, you know, I want to encourage everyone. There are no books to read on this stuff. I'm telling you, I just found a book on this very topic of the satellite being able to read your DNA signature and your evoked potential. I just found a book that does that by someone with a South American name. Never heard of him. Very well done translation. Very well done publication. Never heard of it. Who did I get it from? From a targeted individual. I found out about it. So how do you find out where these books are? And with how people are now, when was the last time you read a book? Are you going to be able to make it through a book? Are you going to be able to hold the thought forms from one page to the next? I have people write me all the time. Ilana, I wish I could read your book. But as soon as I start reading, I go to sleep. I know it's not because I'm a boring author. It is because it's very hard. You've lost your ability to will yourself into the concepts that the author is trying to give you. Now, a novel is a different thing because there you're not dealing as much with concepts as you are sort of imaginative pictures going from one part of the plot to the next, to the next, to the next. It's different when you're reading science and technology. You actually have to put the imaginative parts in place yourself from what you're reading. So I understand you have my compassion there. I'm not going to be judgmental of you there. But I know one thing. It's kind of like if you have ever lifted weights, if you don't do it every day, you're not going to see the muscle buildup that you want to. If you do it when you feel like it, it ain't going to happen, baby. I know that's true. So with reading, it's very much muscle building. You have to read in order to build that ability to sustain your thinking from one page to the next. Anyway, I know I keep harping on this subject. I apologize. But if I were to look at the one thing keeping people from understanding what this technology is, this is a weapon system beyond belief. It can do everything. I mean, it is the biggest elephant in the living room. Geoengineering. It's the biggest elephant in the living room. And hardly anyone ever notices it. And the press and the people that they obey, they keep me way out on the edge. And so that hardly anyone knows about these books and what it can give you in an ability to sustain your natural life without the health, so-called health, medical, and big pharma cartel. We need to take back our health. Otherwise, we are not going to be able to face these technologies that are now coming down from the upper atmosphere and entering our skulls. I have had that happen to me while I'm sleeping. They enter my skull. Now how do I know that? Because they left me a calling card. They spun some of my hairs together. And when they pulled the laser out, I assume it was a laser. When they pulled the laser out, not only could I not put my speech together, not only could I not remember my chronology. I didn't know if Christmas had already happened or hadn't happened yet. I didn't know anything about that. But they had left me these hairs all coiled up and crinkly from the electromagnetism of the laser. So this is real. Where did this laser, do you think, come from? Was it a van out on the street? No, satellite. Totally satellite. No question. So what was their message to me? Their message was, it could be much worse than what we're doing to you right now. So do they care what I write? Not as long as nobody is reading it. Yeah, it's probably actually a good scenario planning for them actually to just monitor what is going on, like the first half of Occupy. So I love that you also have this knowledge of Steiner and Wilhelm Reich, and you've even edited that book by James Shelby Donner. So this idea of an esoteric or occult subtext to all this is very much a part of your work using terms like black magicians of big pharma, calling some of this sorcery, noting the Saturnian quality of some things like this chemical ring around the equator. I've heard you talk about that. Well, help people understand the occult motivations and aspects of these things that aren't always talked about. I think that the occult is incredibly important simply as the right context to add it to all the other contexts that you might maintain, such as the context of NASA. How much is coming from NASA of all this science that we're seeing, of what's going on in so-called space? Truthfully, we haven't been to space yet, folks, but we have been in the upper atmosphere. So often what they call space is really the upper atmosphere. We can't get past those Van Allen belts. They're radiation, and that's another reason that they're trying to create a transhuman, is a transhuman could be silicon-based, could be based in something like the graphene oxide, the hydrogel, blah, blah, blah, in order to get past those radiation belts. Okay, so if you look at all of this, why are they so concerned about us? What is it about us that they're trying to ruin our blood? They hate us. How come they don't hate kitty cats, you know, and birds and things? Well, they're doing a lot of stuff to those poor creatures as well. But no, it's the human being that is the main target here. And more than that, it is the human soul that is the main target. Now, certainly Mr. Yuval Harari has made it very clear that he considers talking about the soul to be something to be something to sneer at. It doesn't exist. And if it does exist, it's weak and ineffectual. It's nothing, right? That's how he sees it. And certainly a lot of people treat their soul that way, as if it really doesn't matter. They don't think about it. Maybe it's just the generator for the personality at the very most. But I, being a student of Rudolf Steiner, and also being someone who had a full-on spiritual experience in the middle of a college class and had to then really think over what happened to me and basically take up a new life. There is something about the human being that is divine. Now, I can tell you that I am thrilled that whatever happened to me when I was younger, two different events, has made all the difference in my life, made all the difference. So, you know, if you haven't discovered that you are a divine being living in a body, much like Madonna sang in the 80s, you know, I'm a material girl living in a material world. In my case, I'm a spiritual being living in a material world and learning how to interpret this world in a way that makes sense for goodness, truth, beauty, compassion, forgiveness, you know, all the virtues that people save, who still go to Sunday school, save for Sunday. These are the things that are the very gist of life, the very core of life for a human being. These are not sidebars that you might want to get into in order to impress your date or make yourself feel better when you're depressed. That's not what this is about. So for me, Steiner is the one, and I didn't know this when I discovered Steiner. I went to Steiner to the Waldorf Training Institute that I went to to make my teaching stronger because I was already a pretty gifted teacher. I knew that. I assumed it was from lifetimes that I've lived because, you know, I've experienced reincarnation as a fact since I was eight years old. I didn't know nobody else saw it, but I did. I even remembered somebody I knew 2,500 years ago. I didn't know that was unusual. So you find a way to put a context, put your life now in modern world, materialism, Satanism, all these different things into a context that has some meaning to you and actually makes you not only a better person, but actually has something to do with who you really are. You know, you're not your personality. You're more. I don't have words for it. So that's why I feel that when you're looking at what happened to people with the jab, you have to talk about Black magicians. I read a book by a gentleman named Thomas Meyer living in Germany. He wrote a book about he's clairvoyant since he was a child. He has special skills and he's in touch with 50 other Europeans who all also have this same special skill. And they're all talking together about being contacted by people who have just died, gone beyond the threshold is how occult people talk, and how they're stuck. And it's because of the jab that they took. So he goes there along with other people and they're listening to these people talk about the jab and then what happened to them when they died and how they're paralyzed now. And so these people with special skills set out to help them on the other side, because they have that ability to pass back and forth between death and life that I certainly don't have. And they're trying to help them break the paralysis they're in. So that's where I was able to study the opinions and experiences of several of these people on the other side and the people who helped them. And I was able to see what they had to say about how that might be done, how you could put into a medicament something that would actually spiritually retard someone. And I finally decided that's exactly what happened. Because how many times have you heard someone say, she's different now. She's not the same as she used to be. She's harder now. She's more judgmental and keeps to herself. In other words, a personality change. So is it possible that that's what we got going on here? Just a possibility. And, you know, I know these people who wrote this book and had these experiences are not lying. Why would they lie? That's why I include the occult. And what I've been trying to do on different radio shows is if it comes up, like you've brought it up, I want to say that when you hear the word occult, you've been conditioned to think of it as a dark word, as a bad word. It's about people like, what was his name when it was setting children up for sale? Epstein? Yeah, it's like Epstein type people. But what if there's a good side to the occult? Yeah, I definitely think there is. It is more like a context, like you say, it's a framework of how to see the world. Some people say Gnostic even. But these are just, I think, ways of having a worldview that is more spiritually oriented or incorporates a spiritual layer into things that just isn't there with materialism. And just with this first hour here, just to stick a landing and talk about the end goal, because a lot of this stuff is really complex. I think your book is 600 pages and it's the fourth one you've written on these technologies. But it seems like the impression I get of the end goal is, and it is an occult motivation, it seems like they hate the creator, they hate the creation. They want to take everything in our messy, chaotic, beautiful life and make it a clean, efficient, sterilized, AI-driven smart life. And it seems like to get there, what they're sort of doing the steps along the way would be to create like an environment that is harmful to natural life, but conductive to artificial life so that we actually move towards the more synthetic stuff because we're going to feel bad in this fabricated environment if we try to hold on to our natural ways. So they're trying to encourage us to take our own steps towards being more transhuman in that classic problem-reaction-solution way. Is that kind of the gist, you would say, of the end goal? Absolutely. And I think if Mr. Harari can be believed and people like him, they really want to be done with Homo sapiens 1.0. They don't want God's creation manifest anymore. They want to just not only thumb their nose at God as a divine being, but they want to become the gods of this planet. And they must control humanity in order to do that because that's the place where the human soul resides. And can you take the human soul out of the body? Yes, you can. We have the technology now by which I'm convinced that the human soul can be removed from the body. Now that means that the human soul is actually something. It's not a construct. It's not an ephemeral sort of cloudy thing, like a little fairy sitting there. No. Well, I remember back in the 19th century, there was a guy who was weighing people before they died, and then weighing them after they died. And he actually published the quantity, the weight of the human soul once it left. So if we look at things from a spiritual aspect, what will change regarding our relationship with, for example, our technology? For example, our electromagnetic technology? Now, Rudolf Steiner says very clearly that the ether, which was removed. And you probably read that part in two books. I've published this because it's that important that the ether was removed from the Western science lexicon in 1920s. And Einstein was personally told, because he did not want to give up that concept, and he was told to give it up, and they would give him something else, which is basically dark matter. That's a done deal. But Steiner said that the opposite of the ether, which is the etheric is like chi or ki, or the elan vital. There are many names for it. It's the life force in us. So that when we die, and the life force drains out of us, that's the sign that the etheric is leaving. So electromagnetism is the exact opposite of the etheric. It is a death force. Now, as much as we love our electromagnetics, and we love these electric lights that we can read at night and do things at night, it works for the death side. So that's important to know if you are thinking of habits for your children, for example. For you, the adult, it's up to you what you want to do. You want to watch heavy-duty movies up until the minute you fall asleep. You'll do that on the television or on your iPhone. But if you're living with electromagnetism constantly on in your environment, those death forces will cause you to age faster than you would otherwise would. And illness may become a problem because it's pulling your life force down and out. So that's useful information. But if you go to a doctor and say, you know, Rudolf Steiner says, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, that's probably not going to fly with him because, you know, you go into a hospital and you're entering 5G, 6G environment and you expect to get better there? It's not going to happen. On top of the nasty food they give you and the constant waiting and then interrupting your sleep with a blood test every hour. I just recently went through this with my dad. I couldn't believe what I saw in the hospital considered to be a place of healing. But man, a lot of this has been really educational. I feel a little defeated because I can't make a lot of the right choices in this environment. I can't do much about what's in the air. But education is half the battle, I guess. Remind the good people listening where to get the new book and follow your ongoing work. You do have a Patreon now as well. I do. I have a Patreon site for people who hate Facebook. And I have one Facebook site left, which you have to get my permission to be a member. EMF Planetary Engineering is the name of it. It's really good. I comment a lot. And then to get the book, I'm really at sea here. I think you go to Inner Traditions and you buy it from them or you go to your local bookstore and they will get it for you because Inner Traditions is an international company. And they have a lot of distributorships all over the place. And so you can't get the book from me anymore. The third volume, Geoengineer Transhumanism, that was so great because I own the copyright for that book. So I controlled that book. I don't control this book. So you're going to have to find it. But for the other books, go to the Rudolf Steiner bookstore in Seattle, Washington. Buy from them. It's a teeny weenie. It's only this big. It's in the backyard of a very nice guy who's doing this for me. And you can buy anything I've written. My Sub Rosa America, the deep state history series is there as well, which I highly recommend for people who wonder what the hell has happened to America since the end of World War II. So yeah, go to the Rudolf Steiner bookstore in Seattle, Washington to buy any of my books except the new one. And the new one you have to get from Inner Traditions or the bookstore. Right on. And Inner Traditions seems like a good company. I have a good relationship with them. Shout out to Manzanita, who helps me a lot with getting good interviews when the time is right. Right. Yeah. Thanks for doing this. I appreciate your time. Things seem a little bit stark, but we'll do the best we can. Keep fighting the good fight and take care. All right. Thanks for having me. All right. We did it. And there have been lots of calls to get Alana back on. There's forum posts. Someone tweeted at me recently. And in fact, there was a comment on the plus site doubting she would do the show again, right as we were setting it up. And I thought that was a bit odd. Anyway, Alana has done great work. She's focused on this area more than almost anybody. She saw this stuff coming and it's only increasing. So it's safe to say she's been over the target. We might've gone a little deep on personal anecdotes and light on details of the programs themselves as to where these programs are right now, but I guess it's tough to really do anything about it. Even if you have that information, but it's possible. I came on a little strong asking for some verifiable evidence in the environment that these detailed things are happening to the degree discussed in the book, but I don't want to be too paranoid about invisible things. It can almost start to sound like technocratic geoengineering germ theory. I appreciate that these patents are there. I appreciate that the psychopaths have these motivations and desires and announcements have been made about what's been done in this lab or that university. But the premise here is that we have active real world use, and I want to know what the signs of it are so we can be better at understanding it and where it's happening and make a better case to the people around us. Chemical tasting fog? Probably a sign. Chemtrails blanketing the sky day after day? Also a sign. I understand nanotech and smart dust are things that are very, very small and hard to see, and that's kind of the point. It's a covert operation, but there's got to be areas where it's happening more than others, and I want something to go on. That's all. I'm obviously interested and on board. I've read three of her books. We talk about geoengineering all the time. I just want to get a better idea of exactly how far along they are right now, and that seems hard to do. Serious claims are being made, though, and the people listening are not the ignorant masses who would rather watch a football game. But that doesn't mean we don't also want to verify claims that are made about pretty exotic technology. And like when it comes to the satellite that apparently can already target us as individuals and change our thoughts, why not just zap the 200 or so people doing this sort of alternative conspiratorial work? Who out there is going to blame the mind control satellites they don't even know exist? I do want to read this, though. The book opens up with a great Wilhelm Reich quote. He says, It's not rational to assume that wars are always fought only the way we know them. We must permit ourselves to think of wars as a silent, unnoticed, slow-working, but deliberate destruction of life on a planet, a satellite, or even a star. We must be ready to change every single view we've held sacred if it contradicts new facts and new experiences. War may be going on right now with no one being aware of it, with men dying, with trees bending like rubber hoses, green pastures turning into dust bowls, and with academic and civil institutions explaining it all away with just this or just that. In short, it may turn out correct, what one might otherwise feel inclined to ascribe to a schizophrenic mind. Namely, that instead of shooting at the victims of war with bullets, one could very well sap life energy out of the war victims with machines that operate according to the ergonomic potential of the cosmic energy. So I liked that a lot. Obviously, it's important to be aware of the potential, and sometimes geoengineering ends up relating to things we never even considered. Do any Midwesterners remember the Great Flood of 1993? It was definitely a big thing for me in Arnold, Missouri. Check this out from her book. She says, Back in 1993, an early version of the HAARP ionospheric heater located in Russia, dubbed the Russian Woodpecker, altered the jet stream to create epic flooding across the U.S. Midwest by relaying pulses along the ground wave emergency network system, whose stated purpose was to protect U.S. communication systems during a high-altitude nuclear explosion. The epic flooding resulted in five atmospheric rivers of vapor crisscrossing the continental U.S., some of them 420 to 480 miles wide and capable of moving 340 pounds of water per second two miles above the Earth. This pump-and-dump operation involved directing the flow of electricity to steer the jet stream so as to dump masses of rain on pre-designated geographic areas. Man, I just thought that was a really interesting explanation for a weather event that really did seem to come out of nowhere and was never fully explained. I mean, I was in the third grade, but I guess in my young mind, that was something that was kind of normal, but as I've gotten older, it was definitely an anomalous event. And those are just a couple things from my notes that didn't make it into the interview, but this is dense stuff, and I tried to get in as much as I could. The first hour does its thing, but as always, the second hour is just so much more. We talked about the occult motivations and James Shelby Downard and how she came to write his autobiography, ritualized events, the free Masonic attack that Alana experienced, Harold Kautzvella and the black goo piece of the big puzzle, the Jason group, the eighth sphere, plasma lifeforms and why the disclosure rollout is happening now, the asuras and the post-vax soul status of those who got the jab. Super interesting material. I appreciate her deep, dedicated research, and I thank her for her time and for being the tip of the spear on a lot of these issues. The stuff about the jab having a relationship with what's in the sky is pretty interesting. Why wouldn't it all relate to the same program and agenda? Crazy times. Pick up the book if you want to go really deep. In higher side news, I obviously started this show with an event announcement, just a friendly reminder. The links are in the show notes if you're interested. And as for the last episode, Matthew J. Bell, very popular. Was there ever any doubt? The plus rating system clocked in at a 4.8. Right in the sweet spot. Feeling good about that. But both on Twitter and on the plus site, I saw comments that the whole Highway 666 material is broken because that highway has been renamed 191, not 491. But if you look it up, you will find the highway formerly known as US 666 is now US 191 in Arizona and US 491 in Colorado, New Mexico and Utah. Bam. Come on now. We can make mistakes with the best of them, but something that big would not go overlooked. But that was a good episode. I really look forward to bringing him back to do the Mediterranean Island stuff we were supposed to do. Always great to have an abundance of content. It seems like with Mr. Bell, even four hours isn't enough. And moving on to the meetup calendar. Up on deck is February 21st, Canyon Lake, Texas at the Rivers Rose Tavern. And then the very next day, February 22nd, Hops on Tap in Portland, Oregon. It looks like that one is even being billed as a book swap. So bring your favorite wild conspiratorial tomes and see if you can do a little trading. And then on March 3rd, we have Rico's Band Book Brigade. It looks like a young bartender has just moved to the area and is using the meetup calendar to expand his network in Pullman, Washington at Rico's Public House. And then March 8th, you got the High Springs thing with me and Gordon. Awesome. So you guys know the drill there. Put anything on the calendar. As long as it's free, make some new friends, get back to real world experiences, and scenario plan for World War 3. All the fun stuff. But it looks like that's all she wrote. Thanks to Alana again for her dedication. It really is getting a bit scary out there. And giving the tech roligarchy the keys to every system doesn't exactly make me feel better. But they are doing a great job keeping everyone focused on the waste and abuse that they're clearing out, and the plastic straws, and the Gulf of America. And under the guise of the constant onslaught of new information and executive orders, I think we're missing a lot. But time will tell. Anyway, thanks for listening. Take care of you and yours. I've done my part. Your move, weather weapon wielders, nanotech tyrants, and Silicon Valley snakes. Your fucking move. Mama used to tell us stories about playing outside. That thing that we never had to do. They say life is better since they covered the sky and got rid of all that pesky blue. They had no protection from the sun back then. Just scary exposed out there. I hear they fight over what they eat each night. A burden we don't have to bear. Because our factory meat cake comes every month. And it always tastes just right. And we never have to get dirty in here. Because the pot is always white. Imagine the trouble of finding some job to do. Or finding your own home. The implants weren't made yet. They weren't as connected. They weren't as connected. We sometimes had to be alone. Because they didn't yet know who. Trust them. I just don't care. Back then they had dreamt factory. Meat cakes didn't come every month. And it almost felt alright. I dreamt we sometimes. Sometimes it wasn't always.