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Etienne De La Boetie 2 | Mind Control America, The Statism Psyop, & The Art of Liberty

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The Higherside ChatsDec 3, 2025
Conspiracies & Cover-upsDisclosure & Government Secrecy

Summary

In this episode, Etienne de la Boetie² discusses the pervasive influence of psychological operations by governments, Hollywood, and media in shaping public perception of statism. He unveils techniques used for indoctrination, covering everything from subliminal messaging to educational curriculums. This conversation challenges the legitimacy of governing bodies and proposes voluntaryism as a viable alternative for societal organization.

Key takeaways

  • 1Etienne de la Boetie²: Founder of the Art of Liberty Foundation and expert on voluntaryism.
  • 2'To See the Cage Is to Leave It': Book detailing psychological operations aimed at promoting statism.
  • 3'Government – The Biggest Scam in History… Exposed!': Work that highlights organized crime connected to banking and government.
  • 4The techniques of indoctrination include subliminal content in media and a hidden curriculum in education.
  • 5Voluntaryism is proposed as a non-redistributive alternative to government services that fosters harmony and good karma.

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Indoctrination techniquesMonopoly mediaPsychological operationsStatismVoluntaryism

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The Higherside Chats
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the planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan there's clearly maybe something there beyond the realm of man and until we've thoroughly tested every last close-chested view i find the more it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood people from the sunshine state i'm greg carlwood and though we have it drilled into our heads from an early age that we live in the best nation that ever was the land of the free blessed with god-given rights that make the rest of the world envious with an easy path towards sleepwalking our way through the american dream you still have to wonder is any of it really true and how few even ever ask that question because when you take a look under the hood what really makes this american hot rod run is a cold harsh engine of exploitation interlocking gears of cradle to grave cogs and a loud harsh machine spewing toxic sludge and leaving many exhausted beaten down individuals choking on fumes as it red lines its way to the scrap heap what is it all for and how pervasive is the propaganda in our lives that convinces us all not only to participate but that we're actually lucky to be able to well today we're talking once again to etienne de la boete squared he's the founder of the art of liberty foundation and the editor of art of liberty daily news the first time he was here we covered his highly visual book government the biggest scam in history exposed which breaks down how intergenerational organized crime families use central banking to rob and control the population using a technique called government with puppet politicians and monopoly media perpetuating the lie now he returns to talk about a new highly visual book titled to see the cage is to leave it 25 techniques that the few use to control the many which pulls back the curtain on the subtle conditioning and manipulative mind control techniques used to keep us all under the control of the nefarious few sounds good to me so let's get into it the freedom fighting cage revealing big machine exposing sovereign individual entienne de la boete squared welcome back ah it is great to be with you again and with your audience great yeah man i appreciate you sending me this care package of the new book and the 64 gigabyte liberator for people who can't see it it is a credit card shaped thumb drive you can actually pop out this side and it actually plugs into any computer i was a little surprised that it fit into a usb slot myself but man there is some really spicy things on here worth talking about from school shootings that weren't even on my radar to sandy hook to alternative energy devices and converting cars to run on alcohol and water and just all sorts of wild stuff that would be very handy in an apocalypse or just to remind yourself what the system really is but let's also remind the people of why you do what you do before we dive into the new book and this liberator thing talk to us about the main goals of the art of liberty foundation sure so we're a startup voluntarious think tank and really our thesis is is that government was never really intended to protect life liberty or property it's best thought of as a technique for robbing and controlling populations and it's always illegitimate because it's impossible to have a moral legitimate logical government we'll get into that in my presentation in a little bit but our other thesis is that the government is being run as a criminal enterprise so it's a form of kind of tax slavery where the the people that are running the government are funneling trillions of dollars out the back door and then they get away with it because they've created this monopoly media system and an algorithmic censorship of the internet that is controlling the information that the population receives across screens and this theft is primarily uh through something called fractional reserve banking and so the government legalizes a technique called fractional reserve banking where the banks when you get a mortgage or where you get a car loan or you get a consumer loan or a credit card they're not loaning you their money they're not loaning you depositor money they're tickling the ivories they create the dollars out of thin air and that process is inflationary so it's stealing the value out of everybody's dollars that's why it costs more and more to buy the luxuries and the necessities of life and if you can imagine the analogy i use a lot is if i have a dollar and you have a dollar dear listener you know or viewer and we have the only two dollars in the world i own 50 of the world's wealth you own 50 of the world's wealth and then a bank or a government comes along and creates two additional dollars through fractional reserve banking or through quantitative easing or digital dollar creation or printing press or whatever it is all of a sudden they've stolen 50 of the world's wealth and you and i have been reduced to 25 of the world's wealth and so that's the essence of the scam and then you know there's a variety of other scams from you know buying overpriced weapon systems that we don't need to fight wars based on lies and manufactured intelligence or you know ethanol subsidies or mandatory vaccinations that are actually harmful for your kids you know whatever these scams are you know there's specific groups that are you know making billions to trillions of dollars through the government and it's being slid out the back door to these identifiable groups that are then you know paying to have the politicians elected funding the political process and they own the media and then the media is never ever going to tell you that uh that this is going on they're never going to explain to you the scam of fractional reserve banking and they're never ever going to tell you the kind of good news message of the art of liberty foundation that we really don't need government that everything the government does would be done better faster and cheaper by the free market by non-profits by mutual aid societies by armed protective services companies by dispute resolution providers so everything the government does from armed protective services that they call the police to you know dispute resolution that they call the courts all of that could be done by the free market and everybody would be dramatically dramatically wealthier if the government wasn't stealing the value out of everybody's money and the government wasn't waging a kind of economic warfare against them with the confiscatory taxation with the property taxes with the death taxes with all of the hidden taxes on everything from every time you get a gallon of gasoline to a beer uh if you're a smoker a pack of cigarettes you know your telephone bill your cable bill every time you get an airline ticket i can go on and on there's a gazillion you know hidden taxes but between the overt taxes the covert taxes and the inflation you know they're stealing more than 50 percent of everybody's income and we would all be crazy crazy wealthier prices would actually be going down if we had honest money and we had an honest monetary system and instead they're the prices are going up which is stealing the purchasing power out of the people out of the dollars that people earn and save and that is the biggest secret that the monopoly media will not tell the population yes that is a really great summary there and i agree and it is more than 50 of our income because you do have to factor in all the sales tax you have to factor in as you say all those bills they haven't added tax it really never ends and then just the taking of our money and giving it to other countries that are in the club without really ever asking us i know your recent sub stack was about that recent story of us now sending 40 billion to argentina because we're bailing out basically one guy one billionaire who made a bad bet on argentina but it's all being masked and it's like no one wants to do that everyone's already mad about sending so much money to israel we're looking at the trillions of debt and they're talking out of both sides of their mouth because the government is saying we have to cut all these costs to deal with this crazy debt that we're in well then let's start with the 40 billion that goes to argentina why not start there on top of everything else so it is really crazy but i don't want to distract away from the fact that you have some slides to show us i think the easiest way best way is to do a screen share through riverside and we will talk about them all right well here it comes and we'll smooth this out in editing so that there's no dead air but and sue are you getting my slides i am for me it's showing backwards but i don't think that's a huge deal i'm just gonna roll and just kind of like take the audience through what you know my presentation but i guess the the first thing that i would say is we call it at the art of liberty foundation it's not a conspiracy theory it's an organized crime theory and the basics of organized crime theory i've already touched on you know government was never really designed to serve and protect it's a technique of intergenerational organized crime to rob and control societies we don't really need government monopoly media has been controlling the information the population receives to hide the illegitimacy illogic and morality and criminality of the government since the 1700s in the united states that's something that i break down in both government the biggest scam in history and then the new book to see the cages to leave it but also the you know the third leg is the media or the academia and you know you're going to go to a a mandatory government school where the government is going to teach you that the government is legitimate desirable and necessary before you're old enough to you know really question that even if you went to a private school the private school has to teach the government's curriculum most people are going to go to a state-run university they're going to learn the exact same thing and really the biggest lie the basis of the whole thing is this idea that it's that it's possible to have a legitimate moral government i've got a little quote from hitler if you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough it will be believed and so the idea is government is legitimate desirable necessary even though it's impossible to have a legitimate government what i mean by that is and i've got like just a little visualization you know if john told you that you had to obey him or that he would violate you that would be wrong if john claims because he and his friends are in the majority so if there's two of you know if john comes to your door with two people and he said or three people and he's like well there's three of us and one of you and the three of us vote that you have to give us all your money and and that would be of course illegitimate and so even if john and his friends are able to trick indoctrinate propagandize and pay off enough people to vote for an institution to work on their behalf and they all claim that you must obey it's dictates or be punished it would still be wrong that's still wrong and so there's no magical additional person that makes that scam of two or three people voting to rob a single person moral and legitimate just because you hit you know oh well that was you know we got 50 million people that are voting now or we've got a hundred million people and so it's immoral it's illogical at its core nobody can be bound by social contract the constitution that they did not sign so if you didn't sign the constitution yourself you're not really you know bound by it and if i don't have the ability myself to steal your money and call it taxes or to make up rules for you myself and call it laws then it is a hundred percent impossible for me to delegate a right that i do not have myself to steal your money or make up rules for you to a government or a representative to you know exercise on my behalf and so government really has been the biggest scam in all of human history and so they get away with it again through this let me ask you this so you say it's morally and logically impossible to have a moral legitimate government voluntarism is the only political philosophy that is fair to everyone i agree that it might be fair to everyone but even in that system couldn't someone say well hey i was born into this and i didn't sign up for this and i don't agree with voluntarism i actually want to be more aggressive and i think i should get a bigger share of the pie i mean anyone can decide that and there'd have to be some form of checks and balances there i assume that the punishment in that case would be like well if that's your attitude then you aren't in this system and you would be kind of excommunicated well there wouldn't be a system and so in a voluntary world you can have governance without government so you can have everything that you want out of government and so you know because everybody wants to be safe and secure in their own uh home and in their business you can have armed protective services because that's right you have yourself you have the right to defend your life your liberty and your property and so you can hire a company and people do today and they provide you know like companies like adt and garda and westech they provide armed protective services today but the guy doesn't have rights that you don't have he can only exercise the rights you have on your behalf and so he can't come over to your house you can't call him because somebody's breaking into your house and he gets there and he sees that your neighbor is smoking a plant which isn't really a crime even though the government likes to pretend it's really a crime and arrest people for things that aren't really crimes so he wouldn't have the right to go over and arrest your your neighbor for smoking a plant or for gambling or for doing things that aren't really crimes he would only be able to help you with the you know with your armed intruder or somebody that's threatening you or you know the the good things that the police do when the when the police are actually you know catching bad people everybody loves the police it's the fact that the police are violating people's natural law rights by arresting people for things that aren't really crimes which is why people hate and despise the police because the police are willing to set their morality aside and use violence on peaceful people for things that aren't really crimes that gets everybody mad at the police and so in a voluntarist world you could have an armed protective service company and but if they're rude to you you can fire them unlike the monopoly police today that can be rude and abusive and whatever and you have no say but if you know adt comes to your house and the guy is rude or is violent or you know something that is not cool well you can you can fire adt tomorrow and you can hire garda and they'll provide service and in that world where there's not a monopoly you know adt and garden now competing in your city and in your town to who protects neighborhoods the most who gets the most restitution from for their customers and now you've got the you know that market dynamic that everybody loves when it comes to restaurants and supermarkets and and you know toy stores and hobby shops and things like everybody wants that you know competitive market dynamic where you can go to different people and and the people have to please the customer you don't have that under monopoly government you have one size fits all you have no choice take it or leave it you get social security even if you want to invest in gold you know even if you want to invest in bitcoin or whatever it is it's tough you're stuck with social this is the retirement system and it's going to only pay you a tiny fraction of what you would have earned in a you know through uh through a private investment and it doesn't matter because that's the way it is and that's what you're going to take and by the way it's a ponzi scheme and it's actuarially impossible for it ever to pay out the things and so we've all been we've all been hoodwinked by this organized crime system that has stolen all of our money and then blown it on weapon systems that we don't need and ethanol subsidies and a bunch of they're stealing the money out the back door right and the monopoly media isn't really telling us what's going on but the core of all of that is it's impossible to have a legitimate government i've been doing this for five or six years now i have never ever ever had anybody disagree with that like i got there's no there's never been anybody that said hey you're wrong because of x i mean there's nobody that you know in a kind of logical train of thought says hey you know the little example you gave with john and his friends is incorrect because of you know a b or c you know everybody like once you really think about it and once you really unpack government you're like hey wow you're right man it is a scam but people can't get their mind like a lot of people i'm right i'm sure you've got a very intelligent audience but like a lot of people they just can't wrap their mind around that they can't imagine everything that's taught in the schools everything that's taught in the colleges everything that is you know the system has built into it over decades and centuries has been a lie on its face but this is the core of the lie this is the hitler's big lie this is the thing that gives government rights that you don't have this is the inherent unfairness of the system this is the illegitimity of the system unwrapped and laid bare naked for everybody to see it is impossible to have a moral logical legitimate government fair enough and i don't want to be the first one to break the trend of nobody disagreeing and i don't argue that our government is moral or legitimate necessarily but that word impossible you know it's a big one impossible is a big word and i feel like there could be a configuration in there somewhere but i get what you're saying like society should be more like a collection of bespoke services that you opt in and out of whichever ones you want to your level of comfort rather than force compliance so yeah i don't want to get hung up on definitions and semantics and you got this presentation sorry to derail you uh here's the next slide let's get into it no no no problem so we'll get to that you can have governance without government and so like the hoa is an example like you can you can get together with your neighbors and you can say hey we're you know we're going for you know protect all of our own property values we're going to agree that we're not going to paint our houses pink and that we're not going to have junk cars in our yards you can have standards and things that are optional but there's not a gun that says you can't leave there's not a gun that says that you have to pay if the rules change in the hoa you can actually you can move you're not being forced to you know participate in these rules other than the fact that you've you've bought into the community but you can sell your house and you can you know you can go somewhere where you can put junk cars in your house or you can paint your car pink so you can have you know your house pink you can't have governance without government but you can't have government and here you know here's an example so you know what i do in the book is i break it down with a lot of visualizations and uh in the example that i use is you know lysander spooner who was a famous abolitionist and legal theorist wrote a you know one of the most famous books in american history is called no treason the constitution of no authority and he wrote this book in 1870 and in 8621 words and in 70 to 126 pages depending on which edition you're reading uh he breaks down in no uncertain terms the complete impossibility of the constitution the fact that it doesn't you know that it doesn't great you can't you know grant rights that you don't have yourself you can't be bound by this social contract that you yourself did not sign that the people that signed the constitution i mean they can be bound by it you know they can all agree that they're going to you know participate under the rules that they just created but nobody else can really be bound by it now in the book what i do is i do a lot with memes and visualizations and so here is a meme and for the people that aren't you know looking at the presentation it shows the signing and james madison is leaning over the table at one of the delegates of the 1787 philadelphia convention and he says sign right there where it says we give ourselves the power to make up rules and take the wealth of others and right off the bat in 21 words it makes the constitution just shows the ridiculousness the idea well of course you can't just write down on a piece of paper that you alone get to make up rules for everybody and steal the wealth of others but that's what they did and then i have another one you know i've got another meme as an example and it's the constitution condensed version and it's a napkin and on the napkin somebody's scrawled i have authority over you because it says so right here on this napkin give me your money and that's essentially what the constitution says and then what happened you know back in the 1700s is that you know they hijacked the convention the famous philadelphia convention that was convened only to uh amend the articles of confederation and after over half the delegates uh wouldn't attend or left early or wouldn't sign you know uh at the end they produced an unauthorized replacement that became the constitution and that gave the government the bat the power of the steel and tax and things like that and then they said okay we're going to have an election and so then they trick and propagandize a bunch of people into participating at this time there are about three million people living on the continent okay in the in the colonies there are about three million people across you know the 13 colonies and less than one percent voted less than six percent were eligible to vote vote but less than one percent voted so a very very tiny majority of people are tricked into participating this election and then newspapers go oh we have a new government and they just begin pretending like it's valid and it's legitimate they're controlling information that the people you know receive about the legitimacy of this it's the bankers they own the newspapers i break it down in government the biggest scam in history but like they're controlling the information and then most people they they're like oh we've got a new government they've never ever thought about it and back then it was a monarch you know like they're like they thought monarchy was legitimate they thought the divine right of kings is legitimate so oh i guess the fact that we get to vote is better than just having a king so like essentially the population was tricked into it and then they're they're keeping on running those memes are an example of how i design books because i know a lot of your audience intelligent people they already know all this and so i if you already know all this i apologize i did not write the book for you i wrote the book for your friends your family your neighbors and what i do is i design these books to wake people up and shake them out of the kind of complacency of oh this is the way it is this is the way it always has been well of course i'm i'm not a i'm not a free human being that lives on the planet i'm an american no you're a free independent human being that lives on the planet you don't owe anybody any money or any allegiance by where you were born and so the government is kind of tricking people into an artificial they're creating an artificial tribe they're using the fact that most people are tribal and they're creating and they're giving people an artificial tribe using the media to propagandize them in thinking that if you live in florida as you do greg that you have something in common with somebody that lives in alaska or hawaii or oklahoma and they're trying to convince you that like your real tribe is your friends your family it's your family number one and then it's your neighborhood it's your church those are your real real tribe somebody you know if you live in florida you know somebody that lives in the pacific northwest in portlandia uh they're not really in your tribe okay the government can and and the monopoly media can try and propagandizing you and thinking that you're in the tribal we're all in this together and everything like no you're not you're getting propagandized and robbed but to get that across to people i create these these books that are that have a lot of visualizations and memes and expand the amount of people that will read books significantly versus a text only book and then i'm leveraging a lot of human beings innate pattern recognition capabilities to expose the historical patterns monopolizations the repetition of the propaganda techniques and i'm using visualizations to make what was invisible now visible using visualization so so an example that i'll get to is in a little bit is a if you didn't know that there were six monopoly media companies on the old school media side not the internet but like newspapers print television etc if you did not know that there were only six companies running hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of subsidiaries you know you may or may not believe me but if i show you an actual media ownership chart where you can see that news corp doesn't just own fox news but news corp owns 175 newspapers and they own satellite companies and they own movie studios yeah and they own movie production and they have movie distribution and they own television programming they own and magazines and like you can actually see all of the companies and subsidiaries rolled under that you're like holy crap there's six companies running hundreds and hundreds of subsidiaries to give everybody the illusion there's all these different media sources in society but it's really a monopoly it's really a cartel and all six are working together to censor certain information from ever reaching the public and this is it you're over like this is you're over the target right now this is the number one thing that you will never see on the monopoly media you're getting it right here right now unfiltered raw that government has been a scam you don't owe anybody any money but you know what you're doing and as we're about to get into they're running unethically manipulative techniques on the population that creates a cult and we'll get into that in a second i'm just going to say that that you know the last thing about the book is you know seeing is is believing presentations using visual aids are 43 percent more persuasive so if you want to wake up your friends and your family you really do have to show them that media ownership chart you really do you know you really can be impactful with with those uh molotov memes that i just showed you and ideas presented graphically are just easier to comprehend they come so quick that you can just kind of flip through the book and you're going to understand what you're looking at versus you know it takes you twice as long to read you know it takes uh about a quarter a second for the human brain to process and attach meaning to assemble but by comparison it takes us an average of six seconds to read 20 to 25 words that describe the exact same thing this is a different uh media ownership chart that's in the book so let me step in here just to say yeah sorry i do think we have a little bit of a delay but great points i just wanted to step in to say yeah i've heard a little bit about that history that people don't really realize how few people actually voted for the infrastructure that has risen up all around us and it is something my dad used to say all the time i don't know if the numbers are exactly right but he would say you know the largest group of people is the people who don't vote so you know it seems like he got 30 percent democrat 30 republican but then 40 percent not voting for either party and if those people could come together around an idea which is you know a very tall order then maybe some change would happen but as you say you don't make these books for the people who are awake and aware you make them for our friends and family and you hope to wake other people up well i agree with the sentiment obviously that's what this show is like we're trying to get more people to see through the lies and acknowledge the truth on a whole host of subjects but let me ask you this so if you think about the american population or you know we shouldn't say american because that's part of the label propaganda but the people who live on this landmass if you think about them as a pie chart you've got a certain percentage of people that are like us and like most listeners who know this stuff and are awake and aware and then you've got another percentage of people a section of the pie chart that are ignorant but would become awake once they are presented with the information that you're presenting that they haven't heard before and then there's a third contingency of people who will not look at the information it doesn't matter if you hand them the liberator plug it into their computer they're not going to look at it they don't want to confront sandy hook they don't want to confront 9-11 or any of this other information i'm just curious what kind of percentages of the pie chart you put at these these different categories because to me the largest category is the number of people who won't even look at the information and i don't know how you can get through to them no matter how much stuff you present so uh leonardo da vinci said because we need those people right we do need them to make a significant change well maybe we'll talk about that in a second but to answer your question i first of all i just wanted to say you know leonardo da vinci said that there are those who there are three classes of men there are those who see there are those who see when they are shown and there are those who do not see and so that's essentially the dynamic that you just described yes exactly now with with respect to what's going on there is a huge psychological resistance called cognitive dissonance where the human brain uh refuses to accept new information that either conflicts with previously learned information or causes psychological pain and so that's really the dynamic that we're about to break down the government has been running these unethically manipulative techniques on the population that make the population look dumb and foolish for falling for the techniques and now you're coming along and we're trying to say hey you know there's been this monopoly media system and this monopoly academia system and everything that they've taught you is wrong and everything that you taught your friends and your you know especially the you know the people that are into the patriotism and into the constitution and everything like that and they've you know reveled and explaining to their friends the the if we just did the constitution the way it was supposed to be everything would be great and the problem isn't the constitution the constitution's great it's the fact that we won't abide by the constitution well no the constitution didn't work constitution completely is an abject failure it was not able to limit government in any way shape or form it what it did not you know we have the largest government ever so it was not able to restrain government at all at all at all and it was not able to protect even the basic natural law human rights that are outlined in the bill of rights so it doesn't protect rights doesn't live in government doesn't work at all and it's illegitimate on its face but there's been a lot of people that grew up their entire lives explaining the wonderfulness of the constitution because they were tricked because all of the books and all of the things they saw on television and a lot of the even today the you know there's these controlled opposition voices that are being funded with studio environments and public relations teams and and tier one studios and and pr people and producers and things like that to where they're dominating the airwaves so that you're only getting that viewpoint and people are never ever exposed to the other side of the argument this really is the biggest secret that is being kept from the population and it's being kept from the population because it's being algorithmically censored on the internet the people that are like like me are being demonetized we're being de-indexed we're being de-platformed we're being shadow banned on platforms like facebook and x and i like i could tell you like so many different you know like examples of how we've had our content suppressed over the years i mean dozens and dozens and dozens of examples uh we had a conference uh they wouldn't allow us to you know just like an academic conference where we had world-class you know academics and authors and economists talking about how you can have everything you want from the government without government and the illegitimacy of government and facebook and google ads would not allow us to you know to buy advertising for an academic conference like it just you know just a tiny like little example but again you know that's the thing oh you want to talk about anything more about that or you want me to roll well i definitely don't want to run out of time before we get through your slides but i just wanted to say like along those lines with this latest book and these 25 techniques i mean some of these things are more obvious than others but yes it is largely about just controlling what people are allowed to be exposed to and it does start as you say early with the kids you know you gotta hit them with the flag worship the pledge of allegiance the uniforms and then you go into the junior rotc like i didn't even know it started that young and i think it's actually really disgusting that parents would condition their children to be soldiers from like eight to 12 years old like what the fuck are you doing but anyway that's its own sickness and then you go into the scouting programs and all that it's the uniforms and scouting always seemed like oh wilderness stuff that's kind of nice survival skills yeah but that's under the surface what it really is is more indoctrination into the rah rah america system and a forced coercion as you say into this collective and this pressure that's put on again children to participate in this collective and what i think is really interesting is when you start going into the anchoring the term you use is anchoring of the flag and this is where it kind of goes all across culture the paid for flag worship woven into stadium events and sports i did not know this you say that the organized crime system pays teams and the leagues as much as 53 million a year to add flag worship and military jet flyovers to important games to anchor the excitement and good times of an outdoor event to the flag and the government overall and you go into hollywood which is something we've talked about before that in order to make certain films that involve the government or have military equipment you know before all the cgi if you wanted to make a movie that had the military in it they had to be the good guys or they wouldn't let you use the tanks the jets and all that stuff it had to be basically you know the tom cruise rah rah america stuff but you even talk about rocky and the american flag specifically placed in the scene that everybody knows and just this this notion that people are not allowed really to see films even where the government is the bad guy there might be a rogue agent within the government there might be someone co-opting the government but it's not the government's fault and i just think that this anchoring of the flag is really interesting another example matt damon escaping from mars in the movie the martian where the entire film builds to his escape from mars and then immediately cuts to earth where people are ding ding ding waving american flags and mission control has a giant american flag on the wall going back to sports another thing that you say in the book that i did not know okay we want to get to the meat and the potatoes we're gonna yeah we're gonna jump to the meat of the so all right here's the okay this last example though i want to point out so in basketball i did not know that there's an american flag on the backboard of every nba backboard and i didn't know there was an american flag on the back of the helmet of every football player and that they are not allowed to remove that american flag i wonder if kendrick or what's that guy's name who did the kneeling i went did he try to do that has anybody have ever tried to say i want to play in the nfl but i want to get this flag off of here i don't know if that fight has ever been fought but it's curious just yes the flag is ubiquitous and it's all mind control to anchor us in the illusion of america okay so what is the big reveal in my new book to see the cage is to leave it and the the belief in government is being secretly and unethically indoctrinated as a religion now they're not calling it a religion but they're using all of the same tricks and techniques that an unethically manipulative religion or a cult would use on their followers and so the basics of the religion it's called statism and statism is the belief the indoctrinated 100 indoctrinated belief in having a state or having a government okay nobody is born thinking that having a government's a good idea you're taught it in the mandatory government school or the accredited private school or whatever it is it's a hundred percent indoctrinated idea so the the government the state is god politicians are prophets the flag is the equivalent of the idol it's the it's the artificially created religious icon that has that has you know meaning woven around it the laws or commandments voting is the equivalent of praying and taxes are the equivalent of tithes you know and for those that are following you know that can't see the the slides i'm you know i'm sharing some visualizations that kind of you know that just very quickly bring you to this this this understanding you know there's sacred symbols and texts so the the constitution is the the holy document of the religion the pledge of allegiance is the common prayer you're going to see seeing the hymns of the national anthem and the star spangled banner washington dc is is the equivalent of mecca in the islamic world you know you're going to be brought there as a impressionable you know in middle school and they're going to take you into the cathedral of the capital that looks like the vatican they're going to you know take you to the the the temples they're going to show you the deities of lincoln and jefferson and it's going to be in a greek temple literally like if you if you've been in the link the lincoln memorial is almost like a double like a like an exact replica of the parthenon which is a greek temple to the goddess athena and in the in jefferson's temple it's almost the exact same statue as athena but it's jefferson instead of athena as you would find in the in the parthenon uh you're going to do common prayer at the at the sports games where everybody stands up together there's a huge social pressure to participate and stand up and to participate and like you said they're paying the teams to do it which is part of the reason that you know that it's illegitimate and artificial is they're having to pay the teams and all of this is is being paid for on the in the movies and in the television and they're making the government the hero um the the school is the church the teacher is the priest you're going to do mystical rituals like voting and everything and you're not really voting they've got it all rigged with the black box voting and the mail-in ballots to be able to you know make anybody win anytime they want or anything like that but that's the basics of the religion and the number one technique is the mandatory government school system so they're going to force you into this world view before you're old enough to really evaluate the logic and the morality of is government legitimate desirable and necessary you know they're going to tell you that not only is it legitimate desirable or necessary they're going to get you pledging your allegiance to it in a religious worship of common prayer where there's a social you know pressure to participate uh you know you don't want to be the kid that you know he doesn't do it you know kind of a thing and they're going to take independent human beings and they're going to give them this world view before they're old enough to really evaluate the logic and the morality which i interestingly is the exact same technique that they ran on the indians after they conquered the indians and after they stole the indians land and so if you know anything about like you know what happened in the in the frontier wars and everything is after they conquered the natives americans and they stole their land they would send the indian children to mandatory government schools called indian boarding schools and they turned the once free indians in one generation into quote-unquote citizens taxpayers and soldiers and so it didn't work on all of them there's always a small minority of people that are able to you know they're independent thinkers they're they're not going to go along with it i've got a cool t-shirt here that says boarding school dropouts that shows some pictures of some indian warriors that did not give up their culture did not you know join the army did not become taxpayers or whatever uh but for the most part they ran this technique on after they conquered the indians they turned the once free proud indians into taxpayers and and citizens and soul soul dyers uh but it doesn't work on everybody now you mentioned earlier too you know you mentioned that you know the young marines take kids as young as eight years old eight years old and they begin this process of indoctrinating them so i've got a quote from hitler where he kind of describes the cub scouts the boy scouts the explorers the young marines the jrotc americorps and the u.s military but he's really talking about germany but all the exact same programs that hitler was talking about in nazi germany we're using the exact same equivalent on our population today and so you know when in the hitler quote he says these boys and girls enter our organization at 10 years of age and often for the first time they get a little fresh air after four years of the young folk which is the equivalent of our cub scouts they go on to the hitler youth which is the equivalent of our explorer programs where we have them for another four years and even if they are not complete uh national socialist status believers in government they go on to the labor service americorps where they are smoothed out there for another six or seven months and whatever class consciousness or social status might be left the wehrmacht the german armed forces will take care of that so that's the government's you know jrotc rotc and military and police training and by the time you go through the cub scouts the boy scouts the explorers the jrotc the rotc military police training now you're willing to set your morality aside and you're willing to murder whoever you're told and that's the stone cold truth is they're running these unethically in you know manipulative techniques to produce something called an order follower that will set their morality aside and either murder people for the state in other countries or domestically in the case of the police will use violence on peaceful people and throw them in jail for things like smoking plants or gambling or things that aren't really really crimes and if you want them to goose step they'll goose step if you want them to beat up old ladies and and move a crowd back with riot control stuff they'll do that they've been indoctrinated that it is that it's legitimate that they have a they have rights that other people don't because they represent the government and they can use violence on peaceful people even though it's immoral because they've been put through these various techniques now right you know we talked about the cub scouts and the young marines and everything like that but really it really they turn up the heat when they get to the police and military and so the police and the military i could talk about dozens so you know like i broke the police and the military in the book you know there's totally break down 25 techniques but i you know i did one technique for the police one technique for the military but but it's assumed under those are actually dozens and dozens of unethically manipulative techniques that are used on the police and on the military in their training to create this obedience and that these include verbal and physical abuse excessive stress degradation and humiliation sleep deprivation right isolation the artificial conformity of the uniform so a uniform if you break it down is uniform single form they're going to shave the head and they're going to put you in a uniform to to remove your individual appearance and compact you into an artificially created group dynamic they're going to move you onto a military base or they're going to move you to a state police barracks they're going to separate you from the rest of society they're going to during training they're going to curtail your communication you're not really going to be able you know they they allow you the troops to call your family when you arrive at the military base before training and then they're gonna uh they're you're not going to be able to talk to the outside world until it's over and then they're going to in the case of the marines and in the slide that i'm showing uh it's a picture that they they've taken all of the doors off all of the all the toilets so you're never ever ever allowed to have a private moment you're never ever allowed to think for yourself and sit there and contemplate you know is this moral what what i'm being asked to do do i really want to kill whoever i'm told to kill do i really want to participate yes and i just wanted to step in because on the slide there that was one of the most impactful images to me reading the book is all the toilets lined up without any dividers or walls or anything because it is like a prison and you reverse engineer the structures in which you're talking about and all the protocols and it's like well why would you do this it is absolutely mind control i think something that we don't think about a lot is how in the case of the military and police like you said they're removed from society you take them to a separate place to do all this stuff to them and personally a lot of it's like this stuff is the stuff that has always been easy for me to avoid i saw a full metal jacket probably way before i should have and this idea that it was all uh breaking people down and manipulative like it was kind of obvious to me really young but the stuff in the book that i think is even more impactful is the stuff that affects us all like if you don't like the aggression of the military and the police then just avoid it in your life fine i mean as much as you can until you're on the receiving end of a baton or something but when it comes to the the sports and the other stuff i mentioned in movies like it really does seem like all of culture is created so that the more you engage with it the more affected by it you are there is one slide it's actually technique number 10 in the book you have a qr code that you can scan and be taken to this video that i just thought was crazy so it is a television sign-off message from the 1960s so obviously the further you go back the fewer programs or even on tv i used to be a a film buff and i could have basically watched all films that were created and now there's like no way you can keep up with the shit that they're pumping out but you go back to this time and yes that's the qr code right there i suppose anyone could scan i'll try to play it in the wrap-up just so they can see it but you say in this message which is basically them doing the pledge of allegiance i believe at the end of the broadcast of the news and the words come up on the screen but the words come up in a way that random letters come up kind of first it's very fast but you say that when you decode those letters that pop up first the messages that are embedded are trust the u.s government god is real god is watching believe in government god rebellion will not be tolerated obey consume obey consume by naomi worship consume obey believe do not question government and i wasn't able to pause it to like actually catch that stuff but subliminal messaging to me is some of the most fascinating i've seen the old example of the coke ad they ran where in the glass of coke the ice cubes spell sex this is deep stuff they play off our biology they play off all these things that are innate to us and they manipulate it for their own goal man just think about if this is the 1960s and anyone watching the news is getting these messages embedded into their subconscious how sophisticated is it now if you're engaged with anything on a screen well it's even you know it's it's even it's even deeper because you know these these television sign-off messages you know for your audience that are a little bit younger you know television didn't used to be 24 7 and so sometime around midnight or one or two o'clock depending on the channel they would you know they roll these these messages but but by 12 1 2 o'clock if you've been watching television for hours you're already in an alpha state where information is going to you know flow through uncritically and so in the screen you know like in the in the banner that we have stopped it says oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave and then there's an effect where that will kind of you know materialize out and as it materializes the next line of text of the you know will come and in between this oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave and the next line in the national anthem they will put trust the u.s government god is real god is watching believe in government god and you can actually you can actually freeze it it's hard to do because like i said it only it's only for a second and it comes in you know in a way but you can actually if you sit there and you press and i've done it for people that like like i didn't see that and you have to actually you know just hit stop start stop start stop start until you can see it but you will be able to see it and in the video they actually break it down and they'll actually do it at a frame rate where you can't actually see it but you can actually go to the original which is still on the internet it's still available and you can actually do it and see it you know yourself but this is another example of of the government is kind of you know running all of these different techniques using the media including supplemental programming including these unethically manipulative techniques i want to go back one to technique nine which you mentioned earlier where the government and the department of defense have the direct involvement in over 1 000 major movies and 1 000 television shows that we know of where they're product placing the flag at moments of high positive emotion using this advertising technique called anchoring and so they'll build the audience up to a moment of high positive emotion this is the trailer for a movie called theaters of war where where they're breaking down the scholarship behind all of these claims and and how the the department of defense has script control and they're actually changing history and so like if you want to shoot a movie about vietnam you can't have a scene about the my line massacre you can't have a scene about a lot of the crimes that the troops committed in vietnam or you're not going to get the the money or that shoot on military bases or military equipment or anything that you want the first part of the process is you give the the pentagon actually has a office in hollywood and you have to give them your script and then they read the whole script and then they excise out like you can't do this you can't do that and then they give the script back to the director and if the director wants the military bases or the extras or the f-18 jets like in top gun maverick uh you've got to make the government look good you've got to make the military look good you've got to make the whole you've got to sanitize the whole thing the government's got to be the hero and so the government is providing millions millions hundreds and hundreds of millions if not a billion dollars worth of you know gear and in you know in some cases they're providing ships and carriers everything like that and you can't make the movie and you know if they are providing it you're able to make the movie for a fraction of what you would have been able to make it for otherwise so directors go for it and they make the government look good they make the cia look good one of my friends from high school is one of the top directors in in hollywood i won't say his name but he's constantly making the cia like good it makes me throw up in my mouth the cia is murder incorporated organized crime and that during the vietnam war they were doing something called the phoenix program where in vietnam they were scooping up school teachers and and politicians and they were just having execution squads murder people in during vietnam without any kind of trial without any kind of things like like it was called the phoenix program it's well you know known in american history you can it's got a wikipedia entry you can go books have been written about it but like like that's the reality of the cia it is not tom cruise saving the world and mission impossible but most people if you don't know that this dynamic is going on you know you've you've been raised your entire life in this soup of propaganda where every movie the government is the hero whether it's molder and scully the fbi whether it's the atf there's a movie we saw the other day that makes a hero out of the tsa it's like a tsa agent that saves the world from or saves the city from a nerve gas attack it's like unbelievable the tsa is the hero yeah there was also that movie that came out this last uh this last christmas season i think called carry on that was had jason bateman in it and there was again like a tsa yeah that's what i'm talking about okay there you go another weird example they made the tsa the hero it's unbelievable it's unbelievable i don't know if you and then here's another one the accountant you know now the accountant with uh oh what's his name i can't remember one of the guys from goodwill hunting ben affleck ben affleck connected to the cia that's another one that comes to mind he was in argo he was in yeah he was in argo he made the cia look good and this is not what we're talking about but just another semi-related thing i saw recently because if you control the movie studios and you control the money and the budgets then you control what media gets made because nobody has a million dollars to make anything you just say oh this is what it costs buffet craft table doesn't just serve itself you know we need this money so another one that came up recently is i saw a video where they interviewed the head cameraman or cinematographer from eyes wide shut and everybody knows eyes wide shut has a lot of weird stuff about it because stanley kubrick died before it came out and there's always been speculation that the movie was re-shot or re-edited and sure enough this guy says that the movie he filmed the scenes he filmed are radically different than what came out as eyes wide shut and basically reading between the lines he kind of confirms that the movie was supposed to be about pedophilia rings in high places and they just kind of cut that out there are some like allusions to it especially towards the end but it was way more overt originally and they said you can't make this movie we're gonna reshoot it we're gonna kill you so you never talk about it because you know you just spoke about the unspeakable thing and sure enough uh i just find that to be interesting because even with people who have clout at the end of their career they might think you know what i'm gonna go there and then that's what happens to you when you try to do that because it's murder incorporated organized crime and the the technique that you're describing so what i described as the most powerful weapon in the u.s arsenal is not a hydrogen bomb it's control of perception can we control the information that society receives to get them to go along with something that's not in their interest being tax farmed and being ruled and you know and having a ruling class that has rights that you don't have and everything like that and so part of that is you know the ability to put something on the screen but part of that is also the ability to kill stanley kubrick and take those scenes out and to censor certain pieces of information whether it's the department of defense doing it for the movies whether it's the news networks doing it to you know cover up you know epstein whether it's the trump administration doing it to cover up epstein whatever it is the ability to control the information that society receives is that the most powerful weapon in the world and it's why most people don't think of themselves as just you know a free and independent human being that was born on the planet in this area that some people are calling uh you know america they think of themselves as an american they wear the flag of the system that is stealing their money and oppressing them and tax farming them and everything like that and they don't think about it twice because they've been assumed in it they've grown up you know the fish doesn't understand that he's in water the same way that if you don't if you've never heard these ideas before you've never been exposed to this before if you did not know that this was going was going on then you know you're somewhat shocked but but this is the pirate broadcast this is the nebuchadnezzar you know sending out its pirate signal to expose you know what you know finally with the with the self-directed internet now people can go and self-select their information it's not like like used to like i grew up in an era and we had four channels on tv and one of them was pbs and that was it you know there was no internet if you you know like there were news like if you wanted to find alternative news you had to subscribe to a newsletter the newsletter might cost you a hundred dollars a year and it came in the mail and they frequently the cia would frequently have them take it out of the mail and and they would the cia is like as his censored books uh they very famously censored i'm having a brain lock but the huckleberry finn it wasn't huckleberry finn it was a tragedy and hope by carol quigley oh that you know is a is a scholarly tomb by a by one of the most famous historians and professors you know uh out of georgetown which says you know there is a secret government and there is a secret system behind the government and there are a small amount of people pulling the the legs and i had access to these people's uh material and here's an overview of how the system works and that book had the printing plates destroyed and that book was you know there's different versions of that book or certain pages have been removed and things like that and so so it was easy to do it's now much harder to stop the signal now they're using techniques to get people hooked on the screens and they're using this algorithm algorithmic censorship of the internet they call it freedom of speech without reach so if you were to if you're to post this you know once once we finish this interview if you were to post this on your x account x is not going to show it to your subscribers even though your subscribers are subscribed to it if you send it out over email gmail is going to put it into their spam messages or they might not deliver it at all you know if you put it on facebook facebook's not going to show uh it except to the people that you talk to on a regular basis that they know that through messenger traffic so so that you know it's very very sophisticated so it's freedom of speech you can say whatever you want but they've ghettoized everybody into these algorithmically controlled social media platforms where they're able to stop the spread of certain pieces of information that they don't want at the same time that they're able to put information into your feed your facebook feed your x feed your twitter feed that is either going to distract you or deceive you or propagandize you or something else so they're they're at the same time that they're turning down the authentic voices that are trying to get this important information into the public's conscious they're turning up voices that reinforce the propaganda narrative you may see lee greenville may pop into your facebook feed singing you know god thank god i'm american because at least i know i'm free at the same time that even if you've subscribed to me on facebook or x or whatever they're just not going to show you you know they're it's it's not going to come across the feed it's called the shadow band it's well recognized but this is how they're the most powerful weapon is control of perception and this is the way that you do it in the information age ai is going to make it much worse and they're just taking americans that don't understand what's going on and they're leading them around the nose on these controlled platforms yeah it's very much true i'm just curious have you ever thought about for yourself like maybe expatriating to a place that has less infrastructure and more freedom uh yeah so i cover that in my book and i'm working on a new book where i'm covering all of the different uh in the new book volunteerism how the only ism fair for everyone leads to harmony prosperity and good karma for all i'm covering a lot of the different government you know um either network cities or places like prospera in honduras where they've negotiated a sovereignty with the government of honduras where the laws don't apply and they've got you know taxation rates on the planet uh yeah there's all there's all these different i'm covering the free state project i'm covering uh monte libro and montenegro and i'm and i there's a whole bunch of places where people are trying to get rid of government and have self-government have voluntarist free societies you can have um socialism in a free society you can't have a free society in socialism so it doesn't like you can you can have communism in a free society you can't have uh a free society under communism and so you know if you want to like in a free society if you want to you know if you think communism is the way to go then go get a commune and talk a bunch of people into doing it and show us that it can work don't force everybody at the point of a gun to go along with your communism or your socialism or even your constitutional republicanism yeah you know we want real freedom when i say real i mean real in all capital letters bold italicized and underlined not fake freedom like you were taught in the schools or on the television i'm talking about we want real freedom 100 real freedom because we because there's a there's a group of people that can't be tricked into servitude we we just want to be free we see through the tricks and the techniques and so that's what we're doing at the art of liberty foundation we're we're we're helping people that want to be free punch above their weight and get this message out in an effective way around the world using the liberators using the books doing media like this and so uh so that's what we're all about okay i love it yeah i used to think i might want to live in a co-op commune type situation then i met the co-op commune people and decided maybe i didn't want to do that but i'm sure uh i didn't meet everyone i'm sure there's a lot of great people doing that kind of thing but either way exciting to know about these pockets around the world where these kind of principles are being implemented and they're at least it seems like they have agreements to be left alone that's really exciting and of course people should check out the art of liberty foundation i appreciate your time this has been really enjoyable if we were all as committed to our beliefs and values as you are the world would be a better place but thank you for taking the time and take care yeah and thanks for doing what you do greg uh it is appreciated and always a pleasure to uh to talk to you all right can you believe it people there it is round two with the forever freedom loving etienne de la boetti squared most awkward name in the game but it does sort of roll off the tongue when you practice it as much as i have i know there will be some mixed feelings with this one i have them myself i did try to keep the conversation focused on the areas that are interesting and the stuff like diagnosing the problems and going deeper into the content of the liberator though that was kind of second hour stuff i did enjoy jumping right into a multimedia presentation i tried really hard to keep the audio listeners in mind through that if you found it annoying of course the whole first hour is available on youtube for free but we were able to kind of keep it moving and highlight some obvious and some not so obvious aspects of the big machine i do like the reminders of how we're indoctrinated at every turn i like stacking all that stuff up and thinking about aspects of it that i just haven't thought about in a long time i actually think a lot of his material works great for a generation like his or mine but with the younger generation i kind of think there's been a different cultural shift in engineering a sort of hate for the state or a distaste for america you know america's always the bad guy and it should burn to the ground i hear that sentiment from younger people and i know that it comes from a place of just feeling like there's no way they can make it in this rigged game which has gotten more and more rigged with each generation so the frustration is definitely something i resonate with but at the same time i don't think they're thinking it through all the way and a lot of people that i hear talking about wanting to see collapse man it tends to come from i hate to say young naive somewhat weak people who have always been comfortable and safe and really are just ignorant of what it would truly mean to see the system collapse a lot of them don't have the skills required or the kind of strength and grit it would truly take so it's kind of just throwing a temper tantrum to some degree and regurgitating what i think has been the new engineered propaganda with this goal of tearing america down to make it more easily fit into a global control system we didn't really get into that probably a little bit of a more nuanced conversation but at the risk of sounding like a statist i think we could just focus on a few specific things that would make huge improvements that would make our whole system kind of unrecognizable and i think that'd be a better approach than tearing it all down to me the biggest bang for the buck changes would be of course ending the fractional reserve system and returning to a hard asset backed currency also you got to get rid of all the government lobbying another thing would be making term limits for all branches of government just automatic making ceos legally liable for the actions of their companies would probably go a long way too and one that i don't think gets enough attention is doing something to rework the publicly traded company system because publicly traded companies need to grow eight to ten percent every year forever or investors just pull their money out and put it somewhere else i think that's a big one because that configuration alone is responsible for a lot of problems and when i hear people making general criticisms of just capitalism and greed a lot of times they're talking about this incentive structure because they're motivated these companies by an obligation to put shareholders first and keep that infinite pace of growth it's why things get more expensive and quality gets cheaper and shittier basically forever employees can't get raises because it cuts into profits how can we shave more off the bottom line every year for those damn shareholders well you pollute you exploit you cut corners you screw employees etc etc it's sort of baked right into the cake when a company goes public but just those five or so things that i just mentioned would do wonders for this system obviously we could go deeper and cut out all the bloat and lower taxes to the absolute minimum that's humanly possible and for fairness sake keep the rate the same top to bottom maybe five percent at the end would say that it should be zero or it's theft but this is just me being a bit of a realist and those changes would never be on the table of course but i would rather see what could happen with those handful of changes than dismantle everything and say good luck everyone but i do appreciate what he's trying to do the awareness he's trying to raise and if i wanted to let the whole conversation devolve into a debate over if this is an effective strategy or if a stateless society is what we really want yeah i easily could have because i have made that mistake before i think maybe the last time he was here but it's a much better use of the time to just stay focused on the common ground and at least help him make the case that he wants to make and just try to keep it interesting there are obviously a few reoccurring themes that come up with guests over and over over the years that i tend to get frustrated by and i push back on and long-time listeners are well aware of what those things are so i feel comfortable letting that misalignment between the guest and myself on some of this stuff just go without needing to comment much on it in the interview especially comment as much as i might have in the past also just to get in front of this now i don't have on everyone who sends me a bunch of stuff but i do admittedly feel a sense of obligation to reciprocate oftentimes when that happens and that often isn't a good thing but when i popped the liberator into my computer and browse through the files i knew that we could get to some really good stuff when the time came and we did spend a little time on sandy hook and the crisis actors thing and some of the events in the liberator i tried to fit in some of the prepper files and alternative energy stuff at least list that stuff and that is mainly what the plus show got into as well as something i didn't expect but he spilled a lot of the anarcho poco tea he is not a jeff berwick fan let's just say that i know charlie robinson has been very involved with that conference and i love charlie i have no doubt that charlie is a good dude and probably just excited to be involved with something so big with so many great guests as come to speak at that event but etienne's insights into possible drug running and that sort of stuff was something else good material if you ask me very spicy stuff i haven't actually seen the liberty foundations piece chumped the unfortunate truth about anarcho poco yet but anyone who wants to know more about that stuff could check it out on their own or sign up for plus if you like what i do and want the full two-hour uninterrupted interviews always ad-free and action packed the higher side chats.com starts with a free seven-day trial how about that uh and higher side news well with this episode we say goodbye to the studio experience and we bring it back home baby i think we'll have better edits better sound quality and it's actually much less of a headache for me to just focus on what matters i gave up a little too much control to have that studio look and i just don't need it the feedback is almost in universal agreement on that too so i feel totally fine with it we tried and i did make some good contacts that are gonna help me going forward so it's really all good as for the last episode before the thanksgiving break with dr joanna cuyava it's got a middle of the road 4.5 when i see that i tend to equate it to a solid b i like joanna a lot she does have some unique takes and she's researching areas i enjoy a critique on diana posulka's encounters is always interesting to me i wish the rating was a tad higher but i could say that every time either way the great and powerful oz has spoken what am i going to do about it and as for the meetup calendar let's see where thc listeners are meeting up okay december 3rd tomorrow the heart bar in brooklyn new york oh and then actually today we have a new york new york meetup in printer's alley okay so back to back new york meetups then december 4th la at the coral tree december 6th vancouver washington at the double barrel tap house december 13th the trails cafe in la also on december 13th a london meetup at the rising sun and also december 13th a meetup at the u tree in in stoke-on-trent united kingdom a weird location with a strange name if you ask me but people who are familiar with stroke-on-trent probably know exactly where that is the u tree in december 13th and then there are a couple here for january already we got gilbert's arizona at the desert monks brewing brew house and then january 16th we have one at burnham brewing in michigan city indiana okay calendar is looking good wheels are in motion all over this island earth happy to see like-minded locals expanding their network thc topics and guests make for very easy icebreakers there's a lot of stuff to talk about many avenues to travel down so go forth and have fun higher side meetups.com but that's going to be it for me if you enjoyed this material check out the book definitely consider the liberator it's a very fun product and a great archive of collected material take care of you and yours i've done my part your move engineers of indoctrination freedom fallacy facilitators and statist scum your fucking move it's so sad to see running what they got still can't be happy even up on top it only makes sense that every story has an end too much pressure makes anything great there's to bend there's something rotten in denmark there's something broken about l.a it's all falling down in london i don't think new york is okay well they cast a long shadow almost anywhere you go is a comic lady goodbye for the devil we know everything they've done has only made us more alone the spirit of the project no longer seems to be home they've run out of carrots and they've run out of sticks this old dog doesn't seem to have any more new tricks there's something rotten in denmark melbourne isn't looking great it's going badly in brussels i don't think Chicago's okay well they cast a long shadow almost anywhere you go it's a complicated goodbye for the devil we know comes after i wonder no they won't go quietly lots of war not much money plenty of pain we can build back better in a certain sense of the phrase look forward to tomorrow if we can just get through today there's something rotten in denmark and in san francisco bay plenty problems in paris i don't think austin's okay well they cast a long shadow almost anywhere you go anywhere you go it's a complicated goodbye for the devil we know

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