Free Plus Show: Dr. Joseph P. Farrell | Giza Death Star Revisited, Plasma Physics, & The Demon In The Ekur

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I mean, why try to make it something else? That is the goal here. So I think everyone wins with this free plus show a month plan. If you want to know why I picked this episode and the date it originally aired, I'll add that to the show notes right along with the easy plus signup links. If you want to start that seven day free trial. If you want plus through Spotify, use the Patreon link. Otherwise, use the main one. Thanks and enjoy. For arduous seeking, all you have to do is follow the clues. You start to see this as a simulation, as a type of computerized AI manufactured reality. We are playing like putty into the hands of the manipulators who are just setting us at war with each other. Serenity now, dear people of the internet from the Sunshine State, I'm Greg Carlwood. And of all the massive, mysterious megalithic structures on this island earth, none have been speculated about and studied like the iconic pyramids of Giza. Theories range from temples for meditation and astral travel or some type of hermetic device preserving knowledge and sacred geometry for future generations to an ancient free energy power plant, some type of mining operation, or maybe even an ancient observatory. However, the sad reality is that humanity historically invests most seriously in weaponry. And when you read ancient texts that describe the distant past, weaponry seems to be the name of the game. With vast and epic descriptions of great battles full of wildly advanced devices causing widespread destruction. And when one considers the close association of Mars with war and speculates about the destroyed planet origins of the asteroid belt, it starts to feel like some of these ancient wars might have been much bigger than anything we've seen in this round of war-torn history. And this is very much in line with the thinking that really put today's returning guest Dr. Joseph P. Farrell on the map many moons ago with his now legendary first book, the Giza Death Star, which only grew in popularity as it turned into a trilogy. And since then, Dr. Farrell has written nearly 40 books about everything from ancient weapons in Egypt and cosmic wars, to financial alchemy and Venetian banking families, international Nazi power structures, secret physics and hidden technologies, the unified field, transhumanism, and pretty much all things alternative. I've been lucky enough to be doing interviews with Dr. Farrell since 2015 on pretty much all of these subjects and more. And now eight years later, he's here again for our eighth go-around. And for this one, we're talking largely about his latest book, The Giza Death Star Revisited, which summarizes, revises, and updates the original Giza Death Star trilogy into a single volume, adds in information we didn't have at the time of the first book's release in 2002, and makes about as good a case as can be made. You can follow his ongoing work, learn more about his vast collection of books, and become a member for even more content on his website, aptly named gizadeathstar.com. So let's get into it. The great Nazi international network exposer, Oxford Certified Alternative History Scholar and Geopolitics Parsing Powerhouse, Dr. Joseph P. Farrell. Welcome back to The Higher Side. Hey, Greg. Thanks for having me back. I'm sorry about my dog, the UPS man, drove up just as you started your introduction. But anyway, thanks for having me back. Of course. It's great to talk to you again. You're one of my favorite people to ever occupy the alternative space. A conspiracy culture, national treasure, in fact. But I try not to bother you too much. Once a year feels like a good pace. I saw Giza Death Star Revisited was coming out, and it seemed like a nice opportunity to reach out. I went back and checked out the previous seven interviews, and we've actually never focused on your pyramids were a weapon hypothesis, though I know it's been peppered in throughout, as well as the off-the-books physics that helped to make the case. But let's lay a good base here. Break us into Giza Death Star 101, When the Dog Roll Out. Yeah. Well, the first thing that people have to understand, this new book is a summary and therefore a rewrite of the original trilogy. And for those who've been following me over the years, Greg, I've on more than one occasion complained that had I to do the original three books all over again, I would have done them in a very different way than I originally did. One of the reasons being that in the first three books, I was really also trying to get the ground prepared for a lot of the other books that were to follow, including the Nazi series. And as a result of that, the weapon hypothesis was obscured, and it was difficult for people to follow. So I thought, okay, I'm going to redo these books someday when the copyright runs out. Well, the copyright ran out. My publisher allowed the books to go out of print, which meant that the copyright reverted to me. And I took that as my signal that I can go back now and rewrite those original three books in this book, which I did. I re-released the original three in exactly their original form, without any rewrites. So those are still available, but just through a different publisher. But anyway, the new book, therefore, is about half consisting of the old material, just quite literally copied and pasted into the new book. I did add some new material to that copied and pasted material to clarify certain sections that I thought might be unclear. And I rearranged the material so that the argument about the pyramid being a weapon, I hope, is a lot clearer. And then I added some new material that was not available, of course, back when I wrote the book. So what basically is the weapon hypothesis? Firstly, the idea that the Great Pyramid was a weapon is not mine. Okay, this is what many people seem to forget. It's actually a proposal by Zechariah Sitchin in one of his Earth Chronicles books. He wrote a series of six books. The third one is called The Wars of Gods of Gods and Men. And it's in that book that he basically argues that the pyramid was a weapon and that wars were fought over it and with it. And, you know, when I first read that book, Greg, I was just dumbfounded because part of his argument was that certain Sumerian texts had to be taken as referencing the Great Pyramid. And the reason that he argued that way, and I go into this in this book, and there's a subsequent book that's at the publisher now that I need to mention that's called The Demon in the Acre. And I get into Sitchin's argument in much more detail in that book that's coming out. It's kind of the sequel to Giza Death Star Revisited. The reason why it's a sequel is that, to make a long story even more complicated, in the original version of the Giza Death Star, I finished the book and I sent it out to a publisher. And while it was at the publisher being reviewed, I kept crunching numbers. And the original publisher that I sent it to rejected the book. And I thought, well, now's my chance. I can add my newly crunched numbers to the text and send it to a different publisher, which I did. And that turned out to be Adventures Unlimited. But in revising that version of the first book, I took out an epigraph. And it was an epigraph referring to Sitchin and his reference about The Demon in the Acre. Acre is an Akkadian word meaning a mountain or a pyramid, a ziggurat. So in other words, I thought, okay, it's already a complex enough hypothesis. We don't need to be talking about demons on top of everything else. So I added the epigraph back in the Giza Death Star revisited, fully intending to write kind of a sequel that would inject that element back into it, which I did. So that book we're waiting on at the publisher. But to get back to the weapon hypothesis, it is Zechariah Sitchin's. And he's basing it not only on Sumerian text, but on a very important point. And that point is, if you look at the earliest Sumerian clay seals, where they depict pyramids, the types of pyramids that these Sumerian seals depict are not the kind of stepped ziggurat or pyramid that you find in Mesopotamia. What you see on those Sumerian seals are smooth-sided pyramids like you find in Egypt. And in the case of the demon in the Acre, he's citing a text called the Ludlo Bel-Nemeke, which refers to the mountain house or Acre in which the demon dwells. And this mountain house is located in the lower world over the horizon, which Sitchin interprets to mean Africa, which of course is the lower world from Mesopotamia. And of course, it's over the horizon. So he's got his reasons for thinking that the Great Pyramid was a weapon. Now, when I read that, Greg, I read that whole book, I believe in a couple of days, it was rather a breathless read. And I thought, you know, this is really intriguing. No one has picked up on this very, very interesting hypothesis and tried to investigate how that might be true. So that's essentially what the Giza Death Star Revisited is. It's an attempt to explain, and I hope people understand that it's a very speculative case. It's an attempt to explain the physics that might have made the Great Pyramid a weapon. So that's it. And a long trip around Harvey's barn. No, that's a great summary. And I am with you on the idea of wanting to redo old work. If I could redo my first interviews that are out there, you bet I would. I think that's a common thing people feel. But in the intro of this new book, you say that as wild as this premise already is, you actually pulled your punches and released a book that was actually much milder, believe it or not, than the high octane speculation that was really circling around in your mind. And, you know, that's exactly the kind of thing that gets me excited when I'm getting into a book. But what were some of those wilder thoughts that you held back before, but now help flesh out this overall case that you make? Well, one of them is precisely this demon in the A-curve business. So what I'm trying to do in the Giza Death Star Revisited is flesh out the original weapon hypothesis, which does not require the element of demonology to make it work. Okay. Right, right. But when you add that, which is what this other book does, is things I think become crystal clear. Now I've been hinting, here's where I've been pulling my punches. If you read all of my books, Greg, including the Giza Death Star series, including the books I've written about the Nazi bell and some of the stuff that they were up to, including the Philadelphia Experiment book, Secrets of the Unified Field, and on and on I could go. So if there is one thing that unites everything that I've been writing about in terms of the science or physics involved, it's plasma. And this is particularly the case with the weapon hypothesis to the Great Pyramid. Because I genuinely think that you can only explain the weapon hypothesis through some highly speculative alternative physics. Let me give you an example of what I mean. Back when I first wrote the Giza Death Star, toward the end of that book, I speculated that the missing crystals from the Grand Gallery, and I do believe that there were crystalline arrays that were originally inside the Great Pyramid, that were both optically and acoustically resonant to various dimensions of the structure itself. And that structure in turn, as we're going to probably talk later in our discussion today, that structure in turn is dimensionally resonant to or is comprised of dimensional analogues of local celestial space. So it's the presence of these dimensions in the Great Pyramid that have led some people to speculate. Well, it was a big bureau of weights and measures in stone. And I can see, to a certain extent, why that hypothesis makes sense to those people. But these crystals that were inside the Grand Gallery, I originally called phi crystals. And the reason I called them phi crystals is that I was speculating that they had very peculiar indices of refraction that would allow light essentially to be trapped inside the crystal lattice structure, rather than part of that light escaping it. So in other words, I was envisioning crystals that functioned as a kind of mini-singularity, okay? In other words, a gravitational attraction was exerted by these crystals due to their property of trapping light. Now, at the time I advanced that speculation, Greg, these crystals were in my imagination, you know, two or three hundred years out from being developed. Lo and behold, and I put this in the new book, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, I believe it was, has created metamaterial crystals that have indices of reflection that would allow them in their own inventor's words to function as mini-singularities. And this within the space of 20 years or so, when I first wrote the book, and now the reality is out there. So, you know, it's things like this that I was pulling my punches on. It's not necessary to do so anymore. The other thing that I was pulling punches, I, you know, I wrote the book, The Cosmic War. And I was really dropping hints right and left in that book with my attention and focus on plasma cosmology. Because it's obvious that if you're turning to people like Nikola Tesla and what he was doing towards the end of his life, he was experimenting with plasma under extreme electrical conditions. And this is what I think made the weapon hypothesis ultimately work. It's a kind of Tesla system on steroids, if you want to think of it that way. Yes, I love it. And I'm sure the audience knows that I'm quite excited about this mentioning of plasma. So it is bittersweet because I saw the announcement on your Facebook page of this new book, The Demon and the Anchor. And the subtitle is Angels, Demons, Plasmas, Patristics and Pyramids. And this is right up my alley because lately I've had a lot of guests talking about the connection between plasma and non-physical entities, call them angels. And I would suspect that if you have a technology that's messing with multi-dimensionality that you might encounter things that live in other dimensions, perhaps. And I'm thinking that's where you're going. And I'm just curious what you would say about the connection between these life forms and plasma. Well, the connection is that the plasma could be those life forms. Okay. It's just that simple. What most of those people are not doing is, you know, we live in a theologically illiterate age, and we live in one of the most gallopingly theologically illiterate countries on the face of the planet. So most of the people talking about plasma as life forms, Greg, are avoiding consulting any traditional Christian text. And I've got to warn people right off the bat. In that new book, you're going to be doing traditional stand-up, straight, no Gnosticism text, because it's really those traditional texts where you get clear indications that are so detailed that could be very easily understood to be descriptions of plasma. plasma. It becomes rather difficult to ignore. But in my opinion, if you grant the proposition that plasmas, or at least some of them, could not only be forms of inorganic, immaterial, so to speak, life, but that some of them could actually be intelligent life, then any experiment with a plasma is going to attract their attention. Let me give you a for example. It's not too hard to figure out what it might be, because when you set off an atomic bomb or a hydrogen bomb, what are you creating? Well, you're creating a plasma. And if plasmas, or some of them are indeed alive, and you set one of those things off, you're going to get their attention. Yes. Yes. And we have. And we did. And yep, sure enough, you know, shortly thereafter, we start getting visits from UFOs and what have you. You know, the other thing I'm thinking about is that famous space shuttle tether experiment, where you had the tether that they were, you know, go figure that they didn't have enough physics to figure this was going to snap. But they're extending, you know, this several kilometers long wire. Of course, you know, any junior high school physics class would have told you this is a really bad idea. Yeah. You're extending this wire in vacuum space in the middle of the solar wind. And you don't think you're going to get a current? No, I'm sorry. That's not going to work. So, you know, they did this experiment a few years ago on the space shuttle and this tether snapped. Hmm. And, you know, you see these videos of this tether out in the distance, fading away from the space shuttle. And then all of a sudden, all these little dots start showing up and swarming around the tether. And, you know, it looks for everything like some sort of form of life has come to investigate, you know, what the heck is that? What's it doing here? So the idea of a plasma life is not new. The physicist David Bohm, I think, was one of the first ones to propose it. And, of course, plasmas were named by the American chemist Longmere, who coined the term from biology, coined the term plasma to refer to these things. So the suspicion has always been there. This is what I'm trying to get at, that some of these things might be alive because that's the way they behave. Right, right. Yes, that's typically what comes up, that these plasmas are either the life form itself or a vehicle, a mechanism in which it kind of operates in. And that debate even goes on with human beings. Are we our physical body or are we a soul that has a body so it can have experiences and interact with other soul bodies? You know, it's like a vehicle. Right. What I think is strange, because obviously there is this huge body of knowledge about UFOs interacting with nuclear facilities. Right. But it makes me wonder about their logic or their effectiveness, really, because they seem to show up in what looks like a kind of a craft shape. Right. To do something like shoot a beam at a nuclear facility to shut it down in a strange way. Right. And I understand why they would want to do that, but they don't seem very effective at communicating their message or really getting us to stop messing with such things in a widespread way. Well, let's go back to Tesla for a minute. If you look at what he was doing in his Colorado Springs experiments, he was really experimenting with forms of plasma. Electrical arcing, which is what he was doing, is a form of plasma. You know, we know it as lightning, but that's another form of plasma. So if you look at what the plasma physicists are actually telling us, they're telling us, first of all, that plasma accounts for, and I hope people really latch onto this here, because I think this is kind of the telltale clue that there's something up with Sitchin's weapon hypothesis for the Great Pyramid. Plasma constitutes about 99% of all the matter in the whole universe. Wow. Now, that means very bluntly, folks, that the physics that you and I think of as physics, the physics of Albert Einstein, of Sir Isaac Newton, of even Max Planck, or Werner Heisenberg, or even Robert Oppenheimer, that's the physics of the other 1%. Why? Because they're dealing with either gases, liquids, or solids. That's 1% of the matter in the universe. So in other words, all of our physics thus far, or most of our physics thus far, has been the physics of the 1%. Right. And this applies to biophysics, to plasmas. Because what plasma physics is telling us is there's a physics of the 99%, and we're barely starting in our comprehension of that. So this is why it's important. If Tesla's playing around with this stuff, he is playing around with something that is very new. And one of his, and I hope people latch onto this, because one of the first things he points out is that the circuit geometry in his impulse system that he's experimenting around with in Colorado Springs, the circuit geometry actually magnifies the effect. So in other words, the more the circuit is segmented, the higher or more efficient the effect that you get out of it. Hmm. Now stop and think of that in terms of the Great Pyramid. What is it? Well, it's a big pile of rocks. And incidentally, it's a big pile of piezoelectric rock. So the phenomenon that Tesla's describing, if it is the same phenomenon that is being accessed by the Great Pyramid, that means that the segment, the circuit itself, the pyramid, with all of those segments in it, is massively piezoelectric. It has a massive potential. And on top of this, Tesla made another discovery with that electrical impulse system. Now, this is where people are going to have to screw their thinking cap on. Uh oh. When Tesla began his experiments with that system, he began because he noticed something that he thought was significant. When he closed the circuit, when he created a circuit, at the instant the circuit was closed, if it was closed on enough high voltage direct current, what would happen is he would experience a stinging shock. And he discovered that at the moment of the closure of the circuit, the current was not moving through the circuit, it was moving over the surface of the circuit. So in other words, instead of an electrical current moving through a wire, at the instant of closure, if the voltage was high enough, that current would not move through the wire, it would hit up against the resistance barrier of the wire. And because at that moment, that resistance barrier is momentarily infinite, the current would have to go somewhere so it would flow over the surface. Follow me? Uh huh. It's like a belly flop in a swimming pool. Got it. Okay. And at the instant that he closes the circuit and creates that effect, he breaks the circuit and then pulses it again and again and again by closing the circuit. This is the key to his wireless power transmission. You'll notice that what he has abandoned here is alternating current. He's moved way beyond that. Now, in discovering that the current is moving over the surface, he's really saying that the circuit functions as a wave guide. And now what happens if you suddenly start contracting the surface area? Well, it steps the efficiency and energy of that current up. So now imagine the Great Pyramid is a wave guide and you're creating an electroacoustic pulse that moves from the bottom of the pyramid to the top. What happens? Well, if that same phenomena is applicable, that current is going to move over all of the surfaces of all of those stones comprising the structure toward the apex where the surface area gets smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller until it steps up that potential tremendously. So that basically is what I'm suggesting here, that the Tesla system, if you apply it to the Great Pyramid, is creating an enormously powerful electroacoustic pulse. And this, incidentally, is very in line with what Sitchin's texts say, because he produces a text where one of the ancient Sumerian gods is flying over the pyramid, according to Sitchin, and is seized by a very strong crushing force. Well, there's your electroacoustic or gravitational pulse once again. So I suspect that this is what's making the pyramid work. Now, let's go back to our demon. You're doing all of this and you're doing it how? Well, you're creating a plasma. Okay. And plasmas have an interesting property. Plasmas are not homogeneous. They have internal structure. And in fact, you could view plasmas in a certain kind of way as being crystalline in structure. Follow me? Mm-hmm. So you have a crystalline structure called the Great Pyramid, inside of which, if you're following Chris Dunn, and I mentioned this in the book as well, inside of which you're creating a possible endothermic hydrogen plasma. Now, endothermic basically means a cool temperature plasma. We tend to think of plasmas as being very hot, but you can actually have very cool ones as well, out in interstellar space. Plasmas would be, by definition, very cool. But you've got a potential for a plasma inside the structure. This is what I'm saying. And you are using a phenomenon that's going to, by its very nature, if the Tesla system is applicable here, you're using a system which is going to produce a plasma in addition to the one that you've got circulating inside the pyramid. So on your line of thinking, Greg, could that be transducing an entity? Well, answer, yeah, probably. Yeah, it's almost like the pyramids could have housed a plasma demon that could be unleashed. Right, right. Or you could write about it in that way, in an ancient way, if you were to write about such things. Sometimes they anthropomorphize things, or they use grandiose language. Right. But yet it's also kind of true. Well, yeah, you know, the term Acre in Akkadian, it's an interesting term, because as I pointed out in my book, The Cosmic War, the term can function metaphorically as the term for a planet. But in its basic meaning, what it means is a mountain. And it therefore is the term that in Sumerian and Akkadian, they will use for a ziggurat or a pyramid. And incidentally, the Egyptians have the very same use, because their word for a mountain is Ben. And what is at the top of a pyramid? Well, the Ben Ben, it's the little mountain. So in other words, the term Acre can also be translated as mountain house, or in other words, a mountain dwelling. So you've got all of these meanings, you know, in the original text suggesting this tie to some sort of non-corporeal or immaterial or inorganic type of life. It's present almost everywhere. And, you know, let's be honest, Greg, the ancient view of things was much more sophisticated than the modern one. Why? Because the modern view is basically that everything's a machine. The ancient view is basically that most things are living things. Yeah. And that it's a very small segment of the universe that is not alive. So it's almost it's almost the flip of the modern view. Yeah. So, you know, I have no difficulty with the idea that the ancients, be they Christian church fathers or Buddhist monks or what have you, might have been writing in some of their spiritual writings about these types of life forms. Hmm. I should just throw my script away because we are way off where I thought we were going to be going. But let's touch on what you say is a common question people have when they're trying to visualize the pyramid weapon technology, which is how do you aim it? And it makes sense that people would wonder that because they assume it's some kind of beam coming off the capstone. But this isn't conceptually correct. You write that it's not so much pointed and aimed at a target as it is tuned to and brought into resonance with a target. Right. By a kind of non-local harmonic resonance. Right. Help people wrap their heads around that and some of the other qualities of such a weapon, like range, perhaps. How would you lock onto something if you decided that thing's got to go and I've got this weapon over here? Okay. Range is virtually infinite. Tesla himself said that he could beam enormous power to almost any distance in space with his system. And in the case of the Great Pyramid, if you can imagine for a moment that the universe, and let's just put no limits on it and say the universe is a musical instrument like a piano. Okay. And the Great Pyramid is a small segment of the keyboard on that piano. Hmm. Now, the phenomenon of harmonics means that if you press down, and this is an experiment anybody with an acoustic piano, not a digital piano, it won't work with those things, but with an acoustic piano can try at home. They can press down any note on that piano silently. And then I would recommend pressing it down in the middle of the keyboard somewhere. And then one or two octaves lower than that very same note. Strike it as you're holding that note silently open. Strike the other note an octave or two lower. That's the same note. And what are you going to hear? Well, you're going to hear the struck note, right? But you're also going to hear that open, silently pressed string vibrating and producing its own tone. Okay. That's the way the harmonic series works. That's the way the universe works. Now let's go to the Great Pyramid. I mentioned that if you study the Great Pyramid, anybody who has studied it in depth will tell you this, that there are dimensional measures inside the structure that are analogues, if you will, of something present in local celestial space-time. Okay? There are analogues, for example, of dimensional measures in the Great Pyramid that are harmonics of the polar radius of the Earth, or that are harmonics of the equigravisphere, the neutral gravity point between the Earth and the Moon, and on and on we could go. Okay? Now what are all these things doing there? Well, they're there for one of two purposes. If the people who think that the pyramid was constructed as a big, huge bureau of weights and measures are correct, then somebody spent a lot of money to build this structure and put in all of those dimensional analogues so that people like us could come along someday and say, oh, looky, looky, somebody way back then put this in that building. Isn't that neat? Okay. Right. And they don't care about people in the future. They care about what they're doing. Exactly. Exactly. But the other explanation for their presence is that they're present in the structure to make its operation more efficient. So now let's go to the power plant model for just a second. I met this author years ago, Chris Dunn, who wrote the book called The Giza Power Plant, a wonderful book if people haven't read it. Because all Mr. Dunn is is an engineer, and all he does is he looks at that structure with an engineer's eye. And in doing so, he concludes this thing was never built nor intended as a tomb for anybody. It's a machine. And in his view, it was a machine for the production of power. And this is the one area where I have a little quibble with Mr. Dunn. When we build an electrical power plant, we don't put analogues of the distance between the Earth and the Earth and the Moon in the structure. We have no need to do so. But if you are building a structure whose purpose precisely is to be an oscillator, a coupled harmonic oscillator to those structures in local space-time, then yeah, you would put those analogues in the structure. You know, I'm a pipe organist. So, you know, I grew up playing a musical instrument that I literally had to learn the harmonic series in order to be able to understand all those numbers on organ stops and what they meant. Okay? And what all those numbers mean is you are emphasizing that particular harmonic when you pull that particular stop. That's all it's doing. So, in other words, when you're pulling stops on a pipe organ, you're, in a certain sense, tuning it to produce the effect that you want to produce. Well, this is essentially what you're doing with the Great Pyramid. It has all of those analogues present in the structure in order to enable it to be an oscillator of those very structures in local space-time. And therefore, you don't point the building. You actually tune it to its target. It's like tuning a radio to the station that you want to receive. In the pyramids case, you're tuning the building to the target you want to destroy. That's what you're doing. Right. Well, how specific can you get? I mean, can you target an individual in China like you would target Mars as long as you know the resonance? And what happens to the target? Does it just explode in spectacular fashion? Does it melt? What would that do to a thing? You could tune it to a target to produce explosions or over time earthquakes, you know, slower cavitation. In other words, you can pretty much tune it to the effect that you want to produce. As far as tuning it to an individual, let's put it this way. There are aspects of the structure that suggest that with enough sophistication in your science, you might be able to do that. I hesitate, however, in saying that you could do that. For reasons I think that will make more sense after people are able to read The Demon in the Acre, the sequel to this current book. For the moment, let's just say that you could tune it to a sort of group target. In other words, a region on a planetary surface. You could certainly do that. You could certainly produce an explosion. You could produce an earthquake. You could produce very, very severe types of infrasound and all of the things that result from infrasound, you know, headache and things like this. You could do a number of different things with it, provided you're tuning it correctly and you're using the energy requirement to a specific effect. You could do all of that. Let's remember what Tesla's system also told him he could do. He, in some of his writings, said that he could split the planet, right, and he could cause the crust of the earth to rise and fall several miles, you know, create massive earthquakes. His thinking was very, very basic on this score. He's basically sending out, with his electrical impulse system, he's sending out currents that flows over the surface. Again, this is the way the impulse system works, flows over the surface of the planet. Well, that means that wherever that current starts the flow, there's going to be an antipode to that current at the opposite pole on the earth. And at that point, that initial current is going to be at full strength once again. So you can basically target this anywhere on the planet, depending on where you set off that initial impulse. And the same thing would hold true on any other planet. With this thing, you're literally using the phenomenon of non-locality and harmonic resonance to create your effect. And I'm pointing this out because in the plasma universe, this is what's very important for people to understand. In the plasma universe, everything is connected to everything else. Okay. So if you're using Tesla's system, let's remember what Tesla did. He flipped, he absolutely flipped upside down the normal broadcast circuit. Because what's the normal broadcast circuit? Well, you've got an antenna that sticks up into the air, and it's beaming out all this power into the atmosphere. And the return circuit is what? The return in that circuit is the planet. Hmm. So all Tesla did is he flipped the whole thing upside down. The antenna becomes the planet, and the return circuit is the tower. Hmm. So the planet is what's actually doing the beaming and broadcasting of power. Now, once you've got a system that can do that on that scale, yeah, you're pretty much broadcasting everywhere. You know? And this is why he made the claims for the system that he did. Mm-hmm. And so obviously there are a lot of theories about the pyramids, and you do a great job deconstructing them and the holes they have. Personally, the theory that I want to be true is that they were ancient free energy devices. The power plant theory, it's warm, it's fuzzy, it's nice. Of course, we have pyramids all over the planet. So the speculation would be that it's a networked free energy power grid. And it's a fun concept, but I do get the flaws in that hypothesis that you're mentioning and also that you write about. But the off-the-books physics that you talk about usually does seem to have both positive and negative applications. So it might be hard to get at intention so long ago. I mean, obviously humans are going to human and we tend to make weapons and focus on destructive powers of things, but this is always what comes up in free energy conversations that they could be the universe's best gift or the worst curse. And as you mentioned, it seems like this power is so immense. Like some researchers, they start defending the elite, being like, well, this is why they protect this from us because it has such destructive capabilities. But how is anything still here if one being in any one place could access such power? Does the universe have safeguards of some kind? Well, that's actually two questions. Anytime you're talking about free energy or zero point energy or anything like that, and I want people to really latch onto this. You're talking about a kind of physics that is of such potential destructive power, it would make a hydrogen bomb look like a kitchen match. It is enormously powerful and it is enormously dangerous because of this. Because anytime you're constructing any device reliant upon that, you are playing around with that kitchen match. That said, your question about does the universe have some built-in mechanism to prevent that? Let's go back to Tesla for a minute and to that claim that many people have made that JP Morgan put a stop to Tesla's system because Morgan discovered that he couldn't meter it and therefore make any money off of it. Right. This I think is nonsense. Really? Yeah. Pure, unadulterated, steaming piles of Bovenum excretum. Okay. Well, don't hold back now. But, and the reason I think that is that Morgan stood to make a lot of money off of Tesla's system, simply on the royalty arrangements, the licensing arrangements that any appliance that had used that system would have given him. Morgan stood to make a lot of money. So why does Morgan pull the plug? Well, I suspect Morgan pulls the plug because either he or someone in Tesla's circle, you know, people like Charles Steinmetz and people like that, went to Morgan and said, hey, by the way, this system that he's building can literally be used as a tremendously powerful weapon. And the other bad thing about the system is it's very simple to build. Anybody can do this. And we, you know, once the system is out and known, you could have XYZ dictator over there and in Eurasia building the system. We don't want this to happen because we can't keep track of it. I suspect that something like that is the reason why Morgan pulled the plug. So let's go back to the Great Pyramid. Clearly, we have a structure here that is an analog of local celestial space-time and pretty much all configurations therein. Do we want to destroy the structure because of that? Or was there some sort of built-in safeguard that was there at the outset? Well, my answer is yes. And once again, what is that built-in safeguard? It's plasma. Hmm. Because if plasma is a life form, then we have long traditions in virtually every religion on this planet that is willing to consider the idea of an intelligent bodiless life form called angels or demons. There are bad angels and there are good ones. And I suspect that if this system was ever taken out, it was taken out also by such entities and prohibited from being reused. And that is exactly what the texts tell us. Yeah. Tale as old as time. Humans build something and the plasma beings come by and disable it. Right. Yeah. You know, it's my cosmic Versailles treaty that I talked about in the secret space conference of 2015 all over again. Yes. Because, you know, at the end of World War I, what happens? Well, the Allies tell the Germans, don't make any more big artillery. We've really had it with that stuff. And the other thing they impose on the Germans is this demilitarized zone around Germany at the Rhineland. And by demilitarizing the Rhineland area of Germany, what the Allies are attempting to do is push the jumping off point for any future German mobilization back several tens, and in a couple of cases hundreds of miles, you know, to give them time to react. Well, again, look at the Book of Enoch, the Sivanic text of the Book of Enoch. You have suggestions in that text of a similar type of quarantine zone around the earth. And in Sitchin's texts, you actually have an inventory of things that he believes were inside the Great Pyramid that made it work. And those things are removed from the pyramid to basically, it's like taking the firing pin out of the gun. The gun still looks nice. And it's functional, but it's not deadly anymore. You can't fire any bullets from it, you know. So on that view, you have in these texts, the idea that this weapon was actually destroyed, not by destroying the shell of the building, but by taking all the components out of it that made it work. Right, right. And I go back to what I said in my book, The Cosmic War, Greg, there are several classes of these things that were removed from the structure. And in a very small number of cases, you're dealing with things that could not be destroyed. And therefore, they were very carefully hit. Right. These metamaterial crystals. Right. And you even talk about in this book how a lot of crystals and gemstones have a deep history of correspondence to the planets in the solar system. Yes. Might this be a component of the targeting? Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Why? Because I point out in the book, Greg, that every single crystal grows as a response to the environment in which it's grown. Right. Like the rings in a tree, it holds a record. Like the rings in a tree, it holds a record. And the record in this case are all the lattice defects that you find in a crystal. Now, the defects themselves have names. They're screw defects, displacement defects, Frenkel defects, Schatzky defects, and so on and so forth. So crystals that are grown in a high gravity environment are going to have lots of defects. Crystals grown in a low gravity environment are going to have much, much fewer defects. So in other words, if you have, let's hypothesize for a minute and speculate, that if you know this about crystals, if you have a science of crystallography sufficiently advanced, you would be able to determine what sort of space-time environment that crystal was grown in simply because of its defects. And as a result of its defects, that crystal would be a natural harmonic oscillator to the conditions of space-time that produced it. Now let's extend that hypothesis. If you have crystals that are extremely old, that were grown or came to be in the conditions that were prevalent in the first, if you will, minutes or days or weeks of the universe, those crystals would not only be efficient oscillators of those conditions, but most likely efficient oscillators of all subsequent conditions. So in other words, this lore that you have in many religions about the foundation stone of the earth, or the foundation stone of the universe, and that stone conferring great power on its possessors, this is why I think that lore is there. There is something about the physics of crystals that was known to whomever built that structure. Because everything in that structure tells me that they were possessed of an extremely sophisticated physics. And that includes the crystals that they put in the structure. Metamaterial crystals, singularities, all of that stuff. Yeah, these things would be also tremendously powerful oscillators of conditions of space-time that arise out of the initial conditions of the universe, and therefore of the initial conditions of the crystals formed in those conditions. So in other words, again, I think I was dumbfounded, Greg, when I saw a prediction that I made 20 years ago, basically come true much faster than I ever thought it would. It's a beautiful thing. It's got to make you feel good. Well, not really, because that means that all my other wild and woolly speculation might have some basis in truth. And that's very disturbing. You know, that means that somebody is reconstructing the science that makes all this work. Right. And quite frankly, I don't want to be around if they're able to reconstruct. You know, I'd rather watch hydrogen bombs be tested than watch this stuff come back into existence. Because this stuff is truly planet busting. It's truly star busting. It's very, very bad stuff. Right. And let's get into that aspect a bit more, because obviously we've referenced a cosmic interplanetary war as a concept that's very interesting. We have talked in the past about the components of the Treaty of Versailles template for the aftermath of such a conflict. But help people wrap their heads around what might have been the two sides of this war, or even how it played out, the conclusion of such a war. Well, the two sides are good and evil. You know, it's just that simple. I ultimately think that the war, and I've said this on many occasions, that mankind is both the battleground and the prize. And the reason why is, again, this is a very ancient view of humanity, that humanity is a microcosm. And that the universe, I'm citing a church father by the name of St. Maximus the Confessor here, who said the flip side of that is that the universe is a macanthropus, is a large man. Now, what does that mean? Well, in the ancient view, it meant that mankind was the one creature in the whole universe that had one foot in both realities. He has one foot in the material reality, and he has another foot in the spiritual or immaterial, or if you will, the plasma reality. He's a common surface between the two. He's the essential linchpin, or the connecting link, if you will, between the two. So if you are a particularly malevolent individual, Lucifer, for example, and you want to strike a blow against God where it's really going to hurt, well, where do you strike it? Well, you strike it right at the linchpin. You strike the blow right at the connecting link, or right at the image, and so on and so forth. And it's very interesting to me, Greg, that in Islam, Iblis, which is their name for Satan, there is a tradition that Iblis was, how to put it, not jealous of mankind, but just more or less livid, that God would make this monkey, you know, the bearer of the connecting link. Mm-hmm. So in other words, there's the element here of jealousy and pride that we've heard in our own Western Christian traditions that surfaces in a very different way, but yet amounts to the same thing. You know, that this little monkey is a real problem to us super-sophisticated, non-material, non-corporeal beings. So yeah, this is where the war is fought. The war is fought over mankind. Now, how does that make it cosmic? Well, by the same token, if we're dealing with plasma, and plasmas constitute 99% of all matter in the universe, and some are alive and intelligent, and they're fighting other such beings, then yeah, you could truly be having a cosmic war. It's not confined just to this planet, or this solar system, or for that matter, even this galaxy. In the book that we're waiting for, I point out that, get this, Greg, there's a plasma structure that they know about in the universe that is 187 billion light years long. Jeez. Let that sink in. A plasma structure that is 187 billion light years long. That's crazy. Yeah, that's not only crazy, it throws a huge monkey wrench into the Einsteinian view that information can only be transferred at the speed of light. How does structure like that hold together? Yeah. Yeah, it's a very curious thing. I mean, the electric universe folks say that stars and suns themselves are plasmas. So this association we have with God and the sun, I mean, there's a linkage there that isn't totally crazy. Sure. It seems like these bodies are themselves alive, and one that's 187 billion light years long would be quite powerful. Yeah, that's precisely my point. You've seen it. If that structure is alive, alive, and moreover, intelligent, then, yeah, you're dealing with something that, you know, fulfills all the bill of religious traditions around the world about the power of angels and about the memory. Now, this again, I guarantee you, folks, you're just going to have to trust me on this and wait for the new book to come out, because I start the book with a lengthy patristic quotation just to show you that this is not going to be something disturbing to any traditional Christian. It will be very disturbing to a traditional materialist, okay? Ah. As it should be. As it should be, yes. But anyway, my point here is that you could be dealing with entities that are so far above us in terms of their ability and intelligence that, yeah, we're just kind of gnats in comparison. That structure that's 187 billion light years large, I worked out that it's about 340,000 times the diameter of the Milky Way galaxy. Wow. That's big. That's big. Well, let me ask you this, because you mentioned the point about humans having a foot in each world, the non-physical and the physical. Don't these angels somewhat have that ability to manifest here as well? So they kind of, at least temporarily, can weave between the worlds. Absolutely. There's no tradition that I'm aware of that says that angels or these types of life forms do not have that ability. Now, you mentioned something earlier that I want to get back to. You said, how do these things communicate? There is a very interesting verse in Psalm 19 that if you read it, it's that famous psalm, the heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament, one day telleth another and there is neither word nor speech and on and on, you know, it goes along this vein. So there's neither word nor speech. So how do they communicate? Years ago, in one of my books, I pointed out that plasmas also appear to be associated with another phenomenon, crop circles. Heck yeah. Heck yeah. Heck yeah. And what are crop circles? Well, for the most part, they're very strange collections of symbols, most of which we haven't a clue what they mean. Some of which are, pardon me, gotta take a swig of tea here. My voice is giving light. Sure. Pardon me. Tea to replace those cigarettes. Well, no, I haven't replaced the cigarettes. I still do that. I'm just not, I'm just not doing it on camera because I got tired of people telling me don't smoke. Anyway. Fair, fair. I will be to my dying day so against this anti-smoking fascism, but anyway. Me too, in a sense. Well, you know, I'm tired of the nanny state, you know. Amen. Go mess with somebody else's life, not mine. But the crop circles are an interesting phenomena because it appears to me to be a kind of attempt at symbolic communication. Now, one of the things that's intriguing to me, precisely about crop circles, is that they do resemble, in some respects, the seals or sigils that you see in ceremonial magic for invoking certain entities. Yes, yes. Now, I am not a practitioner of ceremonial magic, nor am I advising anybody else out there to be either. But I'm pointing out the resemblance because I think, again, we may be dealing with the possibility that these traditions are coming from somewhere and are based in some sort of forgotten reality or some sort of forgotten science. Now, there is a huge caveat to these seals and symbols that I am not going to mention that will be very apparent to people when they read this demon in the Acre book, because the person I'm citing mentions them, mentions these seals. But in the main, what I'm trying to get at here is if we're dealing with any sort of intelligent life, an intelligent, inorganic, non-material type of life, then how is it going to communicate? Well, one way it might do so is precisely by such symbols or agglutinations of symbols. It would be a kind of supremely hieroglyphic language. Yeah, yeah. It seems to be that way. I wonder if there's anyone who has the keys to that code and just doesn't share them publicly. I mean, because these crop circles, when they appear, they're very open, and anyone is able to see them and interpret them and not share their findings. So they might be communicating with someone. The line might not be completely broken. It's just broken on a mainstream level. Well, my other hypothesis about them was that, in some respects, they resemble test patterns. Okay? The old television test patterns. And I was hypothesizing that maybe these things are being created by humans through some sort of plasma manipulation technology. And if that's the case, then maybe they are intended as communication to someone else. So, in other words, by suggesting that plasmas are behind their creation, I'm not trying to suggest simply that this is entirely some sort of higher-dimensional extraterrestrial activity. It could be that. It could be humans playing around with technology. It could be both. And there is actual communication going on, and we just don't know what it is. You know, it could be any of those three scenarios. But the interesting thing here is, again, the connecting link is plasma. Yeah, absolutely. And I sometimes think about this in the occult context of, like, what is the science of the occult or the physics? And it seems to be that you get into this ritual headspace, and you draw on the ground this circle with a pentagram in it, and then you use special words or vibrations to call forth something into that circle. Right. And I guess from a human perspective, it seems like it was called or summoned there. But from their perspective, it might have just been a doorbell, an invitation. Like, I can get here anytime I want. You just got to ring the bell. You just got to ring the bell. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And that is very much, I think, the kind of non-local thinking that, you know, quantum mechanics has really paved the way for this type of thinking with the idea of non-locality. And, you know, there's a school of thought out there that consciousness itself is a non-local phenomenon. Sure. And I have no problem with it. You know, I'm big on the non-locality aspect of that whole idea. So, again, if there are immaterial, non-organic life forms that are some of these plasmas, or using some of these plasmas, it stands to reason, yeah, they're highly non-local beings. And incidentally, again, the patristic source that I cite at the beginning of The Demon and the Acre says almost exactly that. So this is not a new idea. You know, quantum mechanics, as usual, is behind us theologians by several centuries. So, you know, take that, scientism. Yes, yes. And, you know, another mind-blower for me when reading this was when you show the Middleton-Jones-Wilkes diagrams of Giza. Now, we know we have the three giant pyramids and three smaller ones nearby. And you show that if you rotate them six times at 60 degrees, you get a six-sided star tetrahedron, which we've all seen. And that's kind of one of those sacred geometry shapes that's always popping up in secret science conversations. And as for this rotation, you say, such rotation of the compound could be accomplished acoustically or electroacoustically. And just so I got you correctly, we always hear about the vibrational stone levitation technology back in the day as well. You're suggesting this machine, these pyramids, this complex, literally would levitate and rotate in that pattern when they were being used? No, I'm suggesting that you can achieve a kind of virtual rotation. Fair. An energetic rotation. An energetic rotation. And again, I'm thinking like a pipe organist here, you know, sitting in those big churches, playing a big pipe organ. You know, you can look at the organ and realize that there is a physics operating with it. But when you play it and realize that every one of those pipes is vibrating and that it's making the building vibrate and that you can feel it vibrate in your body. It's the waveforms in the building itself that are going to be that virtual rotation. So when I say that the compound can be rotated acoustically or electroacoustically, I don't mean that the buildings themselves levitate and rotate. What I'm suggesting is rather they're setting up an interferometry of waves from each of those things that are going to resemble that rotation, if that makes sense. Yes. More sense than what I suggested. And it's easy to forget that there are six pyramids there. I think so often we think about and we think of the three. Right. And I definitely had to kind of remind myself, no, there are six. And musical instruments are a good analogy. It also makes me think of when people would fill glasses of water with different amounts of liquid and then bang on each one or tap each one. It's like if you have six pyramids there, they can kind of function in a similar way, like different resonances at different scales all the way up. Right. Yeah, I think this is precisely what you have in the Grand Gallery. You've got 27 slots in the Grand Gallery that, in Dunn's opinion, held Helmholtz resonators. And he produces a diagram in his book of the Grand Gallery holding these resonator assemblies going up the Grand Gallery. Well, it's interesting that each of his 27 resonator arrays has seven resonators in it. So if you sit down at a piano keyboard and play all the white keys from C to the next C, the first seven notes are going to be C, D, E, F, G, A, B, and then you're back to C. So there's seven notes. So I thought, well, gee, you know, is he thinking actually musical tones here? Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. But yeah, I do think that you can have virtually any frequency that you want to oscillate is probably present at some point in that structure as either a dimensional or an acoustic analog of something. Absolutely. All you have to do is sit down and look, you know, when I look at the dimensional measures of the Great Pyramid, to me, it's like sitting at an organ console and looking at the numbers on organ stops, they just pop out because you just know that you're looking at acoustics because one of the dead giveaways that you're dealing not with a Bureau of Weights and Measures is that so many of those measurements in the Great Pyramid are multiples or divisors of two. And if you know anything about harmonics and music, you'll know that two is the octave. Or a multiple of two or a divisor of two. So in other words, if you're sitting at an organ console and you see a stop and it has eight feet, you know that the resonator or the harmonic of that at four feet is going to be the octave above and the harmonic at 16 feet is going to be the octave below. So you're multiplying or dividing always by two. Now, it gets kind of interesting and kinky when you start looking at organ stops that are fractions, like one and three-fifths. What is that? Well, it's telling you that there's a specific harmonic on that organ stop. It's the same thing with the Great Pyramid. You can literally look at the numbers of these dimensions, Greg, and figure out what the harmonic is that it's dealing with. And that's the key, that you're not dealing with a Bureau of Weights and Measures. You're dealing with an oscillator. You're dealing with a machine. Fair enough. Well, let me ask you this. So let's take what you're explaining now and this whole idea of the musical analogy. Well, let's also fold back in the non-locality of consciousness. So a lot of indigenous people, to get in altered states of consciousness, they use rhythmic drumming. They use vibration. One of the other theories that's gaining some popularity about the pyramids is that they were for meditation and astral travel. Is it possible that that's what the oscillation type stuff was about, was finding the frequency of Mars to then project one's consciousness to Mars? Let's put it this way. Remember Napoleon Bonaparte? I think I've heard the name. Yeah. Okay. Well, remember his expedition to Egypt? I do. Okay. Do you remember what Napoleon did once he was in Egypt? He apparently went into the King's Chamber. He went into the King's Chamber and according to the story, which again, I've been looking for some sort of verification of this. I've never found it, but according to the story, he spent a night in the King's Chamber and according to some versions of the story, actually laid down inside the coffer in the King's Chamber. He emerged the next morning, apparently white as a sheet, and refused to talk about it until the end of his life. In fact, until his supposed exile at St. Helena in the Southern Atlantic. And that was the only time he talked about it. Now, I don't know how true or false that story is, but Napoleon being Napoleon, I suspect that there's a grain of truth to it. He was a tremendously curious man, and there are few things that would have upset him or turned him as quiet as a sheet. So did he have some sort of initiatory experience in the structure? Maybe. I don't rule it out. The only thing that I would be wary of is that it's a machine for astral projection. I would rather think that if it's something that is tuning to a planet like Mars, that rather than projecting something from here to there in that sense, it's pulling something from there to here, if that makes sense. In other words, it's acting more in that capacity. It would be acting more as a radio receiver than as a radio broadcaster. Provocative. Now, the interesting thing why I'm saying that is that the pyramid itself, the Great Pyramid, is at exactly the proper relationship of height to base, such that it can act as an efficient projector or receiver. If it were narrower and taller, like an obelisk, it would be more like an antenna. If it were flatter, like the other pyramids in Egypt, it would be more of a receiver. It is exactly at the midpoint between the two functions, and I point that out in the Giza Death Star. So I would suspect that in the case of some sort of consciousness thing, it's not projecting. Rather, it's pulling in something. That would be my guess. Fair enough. Yeah. I mean, the reason I kind of go in that direction is just because of what we see some indigenous cultures do, and because the Egyptian culture itself seemed to be very obsessed with consciousness, immortality, death, the survival beyond death, and these sorts of things. But let's fold in the other pyramids around the world, and the pyramids may be on Mars. Were they supposedly weapons as well? Have you ever found one with at least some of the, you know, the quote-unquote hardware still in it or around it? No. I don't think the others are weapons, and here's why. If you look at the Great Pyramid, it is something sui generis. It is unique unto itself. And the reason why is that it alone has all of these multitudinous and redundant dimensional analogues within the structure that you do not find replicated anywhere else in any other pyramidal structure on the planet. It's that fact alone that tells me that you're dealing with a structure that is unique unto itself. Now, what about the other pyramids? One of the things I pointed out, I don't know if you've read my book, The Grid of the Gods, the subtitle of that is partially The Cosmic War and the Physics of the Pyramid Peoples. Because that said, if you do look at the other pyramids in a particular way, if you look at it with potential physicists' eyes, and you look particularly at the physics implied by the stepped pyramids in Mesoamerica, for example, I think what you are clearly seeing there is an analog attempt at hyper-dimensional structures. But it's a much clumsier one than the Great Pyramid, because the analogues are no longer the dimensional measures of the structure themselves. The analogues are the physical attempt to portray what a hyper-dimensional pyramid would look like. Now, what do I mean by that? If you look at the stepped pyramids, they do not have clean lines. They have crenellations. So in other words, it's like you're taking a picture of a pyramid being vibrated back and forth, and then overlapping all these pictures onto each other, and that's why you get the crenellations along the lines of those pyramids. It's like they're trying to take frozen snapshots and illustrate what the pyramid is actually doing. The Great Pyramid, you don't need to do that, because it's doing all of that anyway. It's constantly moving, and it's designed to move. The other pyramids in the world do not do this. So this is the other thing telling you that the Great Pyramid itself, it literally sits, Greg, on four shock absorbers, and most people don't know that. But the pyramid is designed to move. It's designed to be a machine. It's designed to move constantly in response to the movements of the planet itself. No other pyramid does this. None of them. So I speculated in the book The Grid of the Gods that you're looking at an attempt to preserve some of the science in these other pyramidal structures, but it's already a science that is quickly decaying, because they know that they're losing some aspects of it, so they're trying to preserve as much of it as they can. But ultimately, it's twisted into the demonic use of human sacrifice. And that involves other things that I talk about in the other book. I don't want to get into those. Fair enough. Well, the association obviously makes sense, because you start going down this path, and a lot of these different things that are not really a big part of our society, they all start spilling out like Pandora's box. And along those lines, you also note that a lot of the odd paranormal-ish qualities associated with pyramids, like their ability to keep organic material from breaking down, would make sense as a type of energetic residue, given what these weapons were doing and the effects of messing with these fields, right? Sure. Absolutely. You know, this is where people get this whole thing all wrong. I don't rule out the benign purposes that you can put this physics to, nor do I even rule out benign uses of the Great Pyramid. When I say it's a weapon, it's rather like encountering a machine. And on the machine, there's a dial that says tornadoes and hurricanes. In addition to gentle rain or cool breeze. Okay. So you can turn the dial to anything, but if you're dialing up a tornado or a hurricane, yeah, chances are you've got a weapon here. And it just so happens that the weapon can be used to do really cool, pleasant things. But its purpose is still a weapon, okay? Now, if your dial is missing hurricane, earthquake, and tornado, then, yeah, it's probably not a weapon, okay? So it's the physics and what it's capable of that tells me it's a weapon. And it's also the fact that you have so many redundant measures of local celestial space-time that tells me, no, this is no ordinary power plant, folks. These things are here for a purpose. And if the pyramid is oscillating the energy of the entire planet Earth as part of its machinery, then it's probably got uses and purposes that are not altogether pleasant. Right, right. And we can say that about so many things. Even a simple oven, it reheats your food, or if you put something alive in it, they're not going to have a very good time. That's right. And, you know, another component that informs your overall hypothesis that we haven't really talked about is the ancient texts. And these are important because we have all these theories, but what do the writings say? Talk to us about some of them that you think further the case the most or spell it out most clearly. Well, I'm glad you mentioned this because this is both the strong and weak point of the weapon hypothesis. And again, remember, it's not my hypothesis. It's Zechariah Sitchin's. So if you go to Chris Dunn and look at the machine hypothesis, for example, you can read his entire book, The Giza Power Plant, and never run across a textual reference, Egyptian, Mesopotamian, or otherwise. The strength of his hypothesis, in other words, is that he's looking at the structure solely and purely with an engineer's eyes. Now, that happens simultaneously also to be its great weakness, because in looking at the pyramid that way, he's depriving it of a context in which the pyramid actually occurs, namely, Middle East. And what do the texts and traditions of that part of the world say about it? On the other hand, if you look at the weapon hypothesis, it is clear that, you know, Zechariah Sitchin's really the one that outlined the case. And the texts that I reproduce in the Giza Death Star are, in many cases, texts that he reproduced or texts that I investigated in addition to those that he mentions for their potential in suggesting that these structures were weapons at some point or used as such in the ancient past. So, the texts that I'm talking about here are things like the Epic of Ninurta, the Edfu Temple texts, which are a late Egyptian set of texts, in some cases, some Hittite texts, and so on and so forth. In other words, a lot of texts from that area of the world. Without exception, Most of these texts indicate that mountains or acres or ziggurats or pyramids, however you want to translate the term, were associated with the wars of the gods and that these things were also the actual weapons by which they were fought. You cannot read these texts and come away with any other opinion. Now, the reason that, again, I think it's important to read the text as referring to the pyramids is because of Sitchin's own argument that you cannot read the Sumerian texts in isolation from the Sumerian cylinder seals on which are depicted smooth-sided pyramids. Because those types of structures are not the kinds of pyramidal structures that you find in Mesopotamia. Those are the kinds of pyramidal structures that you find in Egypt. So, Sitchin's argument is much more subtle, in my opinion, Greg, than people give him credit for. Because he's doing something that no one else is doing, and that is, he's trying to situate the text and those cylinder seals in the same context as one block of information. When you do so, what emerges is a clear reference to at least the Great Pyramid as a weapon. So, once you reach that point, then you have to say, all right, if that's the case, then what sort of physics might have made it work? And the text itself provides a clue. And the clue is, again, the Epic of Nunerta, where you have one of these Mesopotamian gods, you know, flying around outside the pyramid. And if I can recall his words approximately closely, he says, it spread out as a net to grab to seize me. Huh. Yeah, as a net to grab to seize me. In other words, the kind of physiological response being described there is great pressure. Right. And that would be gravity or inertia, you know, the type of force that you feel when you're blasting off in a rocket or the type of force that you feel when you're taking off in a jet airplane. You know, gravity has the same sort of effect as inertia. So, what might make that possible? Well, again, I go to my idea of crystals that act as singularities because they trap light within it and that light creates a kind of a mini singularity. Well, you have enough of those things to add them together and you've got a potential for a kind of a gravitational type of attraction being exerted by the structure and amplified by the structure. And again, you know, that makes sense. What is it? It's a big pile of rocks. So, is the gravitational acceleration going to be minutely different around that structure? Well, obviously, yes. So, if you have a technology that can actually amplify that effect, as I think Tesla's technology does, voila, you've got a gravity weapon. You've got a weapon that is using a pulse in the medium of space-time itself. In the lattice structure, there's our crystal again. As a kind of longitudinal wave pulse, that would be an extremely powerful weapon. Absolutely. And when we're talking about ancient texts, I mean, there's just, even though we only have fragments, there's so many of them, you can't really summarize them as one thing. But I would say the majority of them speak of epic battles, of violence, of a world in chaos. I mean, even the texts of India describe these crazy vehicles with weapons on them, it seems. Right, right. And they don't really describe a global culture sharing free energy technology. No. I haven't found those texts. I haven't found those texts yet. Yeah. Greg, I'm so glad you mentioned this, because this has been my big beef all along. And, you know, I call it the jonquils and daisies approach to ancient history. This idea that there was this kumbaya civilization way back when that was all elevated and moral and had all this wonderful science. And everybody loved each other, and we loved our space brothers, and it was one big happy fam damley. You know, I'm sorry. I'm not getting any of that from any of the texts I've ever read. Not the Vedic texts, not the Bible, not the Koran, not the Greek myths, not the Sumerian myths. You name it. They all have some version. Every one of them has some version of this cosmic war. And particularly the Sumerian, Egyptian, and Vedic texts, in addition to the war, they tell you about the weapons. And when you read their descriptions of the weapons, the descriptions are just detailed enough that you can kind of guess at a physics behind it. For example, in the Edfu Temple text, in the Egyptian text, they talk about one of these weapons, and they call it the sound eye. All right. What does that imply? Well, it implies something that's electromagnetic and acoustic all at once. Yeah. And that's Tesla. That's our longitudinal wave in the medium. And on and on we could go. So, even the texts themselves, when you read some of these details, they are talking about things in the language that they have available to them that can easily be interpreted as descriptions of an actual scientific technique or technology. Now, here's where I depart company with the Electric Universe people. And this is where I hope people really latch on. The Electric Universe people are saying that these wars are metaphors for electrical arcing between planets. Right. I'm saying that the electrical arcing between planets is being produced by people. Okay. Pressing buttons and dialing dials. That's the difference. Yeah. Now, the people pressing the buttons might, incidentally, just happen to be angels or demons. But it doesn't matter. They're using a technology. That's my point. In other words, the wars are not metaphors. The wars are real. There are real agents, personal agents, fighting these wars. And they're fighting these wars for some sort of motivation or reason. Right. And they have tremendously powerful and sophisticated technology by which to do it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You know, I like that perspective because when I talk to those folks, because I am interested in a lot of their material. Yes, I am too. I tend to say, well, if these are natural phenomena, why don't we see them anymore? If the reason that all these cultures have dragon mythology is because they saw this dragon-like lightning thing in the sky, well, where is it today? Right. And they don't have a great answer for that. But the answer is that we're not really using that technology anymore. But for a certain age, you could see these displays. And indigenous people who aren't plugged into what's going on probably did create mythologies based on what the hell is that? It looks like maybe it's a dragon. Maybe it's a living mythological creature, which is also not far off from some kind of demon thing. And the other thing that goes in line with what you're saying, and it's the reason I myself tend to the same view that you have, and that is if we fought such a war in the mists of antiquity, then we literally blew ourselves apart and blew ourselves back to the Stone Age. And in the process, if I'm correct, that that war ended in kind of a cosmic treaty of Versailles, we're under quarantine. Yeah, yeah. And we've been washed ever since. Do you think, you know, for a moment, do you think that the French and the British just said, okay, Germany, fine, you give us your word. We'll trust you now. No, they made it a part of the treaty that allowed their military attaches inside of Germany to go around and inspect German factories to make sure that the Germans weren't building the things they were not supposed to be building. So in other words, they set up a system of, here it comes, folks, watchers. Boom. Boom. Well, let me ask you about the modern secret space program, because that's another subject you cover fairly often. Is there a sort of a continuum between this ancient war and the current secret space program, or do you see them relating to each other in some way? Is this a violation of a quarantine that modern man doesn't even know we're under? I absolutely think so, because I pointed out that, I forget which secret space program conference it was, either the one in San Mateo or the one in Bastard, Texas. But in one of those programs, I pointed out that the post-war American deep state had a nasty, nasty strategic problem on its hands. They had a UFO problem. They had a post-war Nazi survival problem. And they had a communist bloc problem. Those were the three problems. And they had to figure out a way to deal with all three of them in one fell swoop efficiently. And what they were afraid of in terms of the UFO problem. These were not stupid people. And my suspicion has always been that they can read the same ancient texts that we can read. And if they attributed to those ancient texts, let's remember Robert Oppenheimer, you know, the American father of the atomic bomb. And I say the American father, because the Nazis had their own father of the atomic bomb, too. But that's another story. But Robert Oppenheimer did what when he was watching the Trinity test? He quoted the Mahabharata, I have become as death, the destroyer of worlds. Well, that passage that he's quoting from is from a text in the Vedic literature that describes these horrible weapons of the gods. He knew all about these things. And he's citing the text. So, in other words, the deep state is well aware of these texts. So, they're thinking, we've got to stave off. And they've got these UFOs showing up right after the A-bomb test. They've got to stave off what, to them, could be another potential Tower of Babel intervention moment. Right. They're taking this very seriously. And you know how I can prove to you that they're taking seriously? How? By the fact that every space probe that we have sent out there, we put a little plaque on it that says, we're coming in peace for all mankind. That is the legal notification, just in case that quarantine theory is true. That's the legal notification to whoever's out there. That this is simply a probe. It is not planting the flag. It's not a lien. I like that. I like that take. Yeah. It's exactly what it is. I guarantee you that's exactly what it is. So, one other thread in the book that was quite interesting was regarding the Soviet research. Uh-huh. To set this up, you write that in the 70s and 80s, they were conducting top-secret black budget research on the pyramids, and they came to some intriguing conclusions. Can you elaborate on that a bit? Well, the Soviets, oh boy, the Soviets, most people in this country are not even aware that the Soviet Union was conducting, right towards the final, I'd say, seven to eight years of existence in the Soviet Union, they were conducting top-secret pyramid research, and they built these big, huge fiberglass pyramids outside of Moscow. You can go visit them today, and the reason they built them out of fiberglass is interesting. They wanted non-metallic, non-linear material. So, in other words, they were building as close as they could for the money that they had to the non-linear materials of the actual pyramids. And the first thing that they discovered was that you don't fly over these things because there's some sort of weird ability of the geometry of the pyramid itself, just the simple geometry that focuses some sort of energy above the apex of a pyramid, always. It's, you know, Patrick Flanagan has done his own pyramid researchers and taken pictures of this phenomenon, and during World War II, the British would tell their pilots, you know, that were flying out of Cairo, do not fly over the pyramids. Why? Because your instruments will get messed up. So, you know, fly around, but not over. Right. So, on and on it went. The other thing the Soviets discovered was, you know, by that point, there had been all those clans from the Czechoslovakian research into pyramid power about razors being sharpened or dead seeds regenerating and able to grow. Well, the Soviets discovered when they erected their pyramids outside of Moscow in this field that wildflowers long thought to have been extinct suddenly started growing around these pyramids, which was weird, weird, weird. And then, on top of this, one of the researchers, incidentally, a Ukrainian physicist by the name of Volodymyr Krasnoholovic, was involved in some of this research and published with a friend of his, a topologist, some of that research in theoretical form. And it's interesting that he puts it this way, that in order to be an efficient oscillator of this kind of spatial energy, the units or, I'm botching his phraseology, but basically he's saying that the units of measure themselves, please listen carefully to what I'm saying, that the units of measure by which you are measuring something must themselves reflect the space-time conditions that you are trying to measure. Now, that's bad news for you metric fans. That's really bad news. You know, I spent a great deal of time in this book, pointing out that Newton was involved in a controversy with the French over measures. And he was obviously not using the French metric system in his system of measures. And by the way, he won the controversy. So that's another thing that the Soviets found. When you dig into all the research, and I don't even go into all the research that the Soviets conducted and what they found. Some of it even having to do with oil fields, believe it or not. But the bottom line for the Soviet research is they made a very, very important discovery about the type of pyramid and the relationship of the height of the pyramid to the base width. And that is this relationship of pi divided by 2 being the ratio that is the exact midpoint between a pyramid functioning as an antenna and a pyramid functioning as a collector. And that ratio, that relationship is embodied in, guess what? Only one pyramid on the planet. And we both know which one it is. Right, right. Man, the whole point about flying over them and anomalies just because of the structure itself, that reminds me of the work of Victor Rabenikov. I don't know if you've ever written about him. The name is vaguely familiar to me, but you're going to have to refresh my mind with the details of what he did. Oh, man. Well, the cliff notes are he's one of these like Victor Schauberger, Tesla types. He was observing nature. He was actually laying in a field above a kind of beehive, these kind of bees that make their hives deep underground. And he started to feel weird effects. He started to feel ill. And then he studied the structure of the cavities that they make. He called it the cavity structure effect, I believe. He started testing this in his little lab. And he found that when he took a couple of plates that were geometrically designed to the way the beehive was, and he placed them on each other, like in a suitcase, he could put certain objects on the suitcase and it would repel them like two magnets that were like reverse polarity. Oh, wow. And it would just shoot stuff off into the room. And you can actually see video of this. And it's really crazy. But OK, the fact that he was Russian, I have not heard of that. The name is familiar. I did not know that this was what he did. I will look into it. Definitely. That sounds fascinating. I definitely have a little video bookmark that gives a like a 15 minute summary of his story. And it shows that videos. I'll send it over to you if you have time. But yeah, please do. Seems up your alley. Well, it's, you know, the Soviets were doing a lot of this type of research. And to people in the West, it's very surprising that supposedly and officially atheistic materialist state would be doing these types of things. The reality is that this type of thinking is very much a part of the Russian soul, so to speak. And Soviet materialism was never able to completely eradicate it. In fact, what it did was it drove this type of thinking into these types of scientific projects. So you find the Soviets doing all sorts of amazing research during the Cold War, psychic experimentation. You know, the pyramid research, Kozarev's torsion stuff, you know, all of this stuff going on inside the Soviet Union. And it's like Nazi Germany. A lot of it was cranky pseudoscience. The vast majority of it. But a lot of it, by the same token, was just plain brilliant because it was so out of the box. Mm hmm. You got to get out of the box to find good stuff. Yeah, yeah, you do. You might misfire nine out of 10 times, but you're going to find something there that that extra 10th time. Yeah. And so with the time we have left, as much as I do love this material, I wanted to ask you a little bit about current events, because two other areas that you're well versed on are financial systems and Russia. You mentioned the Russian soul. Well, Russian politics and Russian philosophy and society and culture. Obviously, these are huge things right now. We have regional bank collapses and the Fed doing strange things that are making people uneasy. Oh, say it isn't so. The Fed doing strange things? Indeed. And, you know, the central bank digital currency conversation is happening more and more. How would you frame up what is really happening behind the scenes of the international banking system and their plans for the next phase of commerce before I ask you about Russia, Ukraine? Well, I'm in more or less four-square agreement, Greg, with Catherine Fitz, that what they're trying to put into place is the beast system. And it will be truly inhuman and anti-human and for all those reasons will not ultimately work. This is something that is going to fail and fail colossally. But in the meantime, they are going to make life pretty miserable for everybody on the planet. Now, I will go so far personally as to say they're doing things that I think in the long run are going to call forth that very intervention that they have been trying to avoid. You know, beast system is beast system. And I think many of them are playing around with some of these powers in their malign form. The financial system is a mess. I suspect that this is also the reason that you have so many states in this country passing constitutional bullion or sales tax exemption laws to recognize bullion and specie as legal tender. This is their way of pushing back against federal overreach and, I think, possibly central bank digital currency. Now, there is a caveat to this, Greg, that I want and I hope people are listening very carefully. It is absolutely useless to replace federal reserve central bank digital currency with a state-backed digital currency and call that state-backed digital currency bullion-backed. And here's why. Unless you can go and convert that currency to the bullion and use that bullion or a certificate of deposit as your transaction medium, then you're simply stepping out of the frying pan into the fire. So, in other words, all these talk, you know, Texas being the case in point, there's talk in Texas now of creating a bullion-backed digital currency. And my point is, why bother? Just recognize a certificate of bullion on deposit in their state depository as a transactional medium or recognize the specie itself as the transactional medium and get rid of the idea of a state-controlled digital currency. digital currencies are simply a way to spy on you. It's your government rewards card. You know, like the grocery stores with their rewards card. Well, this will be one from the government. And once it's in place, folks, you can't get rid of it. So, what I want to see Texas do is something different. I want them to put right up front a recognition of the convertibility of any so-called digital currency into the underlying specie or an actual paper certificate of deposit, like the old silver certificate $1 bill. I used to spend those as a kid, Greg. I remember spending them before we got the worthless monopoly money called the Federal Reserve note. And the only reason we got that is because the Federal Reserve would seize silver certificates that came through their Federal Reserve banks and destroy them. That's what they did. So, in other words, you don't want them doing the same thing to your paper money. It is that actual physical medium of exchange that guarantees your freedom, not the fact that they're saying that the digital currency is bullion backed. That's a ploy. Right. Right. That's a ploy. I have to have that silver dollar in my hand or I have to have a paper certificate that is a bearer note that says whoever has this certificate and presents it at the bullion depository can get that one ounce of silver. That's genuine convertibility and that's a genuine currency. So, folks, kudos to those states for taking away sales tax and all that on bullion and so on and so forth. But unless they're talking about a circulating physical medium of exchange that is convertible, they are simply playing the old game. Yeah. Beware. Beware. Now, I happen to think that much of this is genuine attempt on the part of states to push back. I think what you're watching is a genuine attempt to create the necessary institutions and infrastructure that are going to be a basic de facto split, a de facto crack up. And we've already seen Montana proposing interstate compacts for specific issues. You know, and again, that was a prediction I made a few years ago, and it appears to be coming true. The more insanity that comes out of Swampington, D.C. and the Biden-Joe misadministration and similar misadministrations, the more you're going to see this pushback from the states grow. The problem is not going to be solved until people recognize that within this country, we have two mutually exclusive cultures. There's no two ways to ignore it anymore. There isn't. Unless you face that reality and think this is going to be solved by the ordinary political process, you're deluding yourselves. So that's where I am on the financial mess. Well, it doesn't sound good, but I didn't think it would sound good. I mean, clearly. No, it's not good. It's a level jump in the control mechanism in the financial system. And it is. In terms of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, I mean, I've talked to a lot of people about the beginning of it. You know, a lot of times with these kind of things, it's where do you start the story? Our mainstream starts the story with, well, Russia came into Ukraine. OK, well, you could go back further. And there's a lot more context to that story that you're leaving out to make it sound the way you want it to go. But how would you describe the Russian-Ukraine conflict in its proper terms? And as time has gone on, obviously, we're deep into it at this point. Where do you think it seems like the story is likely to go? Or where are the globalists trying to make it go? Well, Mr. Global Looney, I think, is trying to prolong this as long as possible. But in all honesty, Greg, I don't get the idea that they have any solution. I think now you're dealing with technocrats that are so incompetent and have so hoist themselves by their own petard that the only thing that they know to do is just do what we've always done. And that is create conflict and make it go on as long as possible so that we can rake in as much money as possible and then kind of drop it and move along to the next conflict. Right. This is what I see going on right now with this sudden pivot to try and make Taiwan something that we want to go to war with mainland China over. Right. When the Taiwanese themselves are the ones talking about getting back together with mainland China, it's just nuts. It's the war in the Ukraine frustrates me immensely because, you know, I'm orthodox. So as far as I'm concerned, I'm kind of in the same boat as Vladimir Putin. You know, why are we fighting each other? We're the same culture. We're the same religion and so on. Well, we're fighting each other because the West, namely the Union of Soviet Socialist States of America, wants it. And I've got to be honest and blunt, Greg, I don't think that this conflict would have been there or created were it not for the Biden misadministration and their personal family grift and involvement in the Ukraine and that corruption for so long. I think you have a shill in the White House. I think that parts of that shilling border, if not, are egregiously over the border of treason. Yeah. This situation would not have come about if the United States had not been pushing the NATO, Ukraine in NATO and the EU narrative for so long. Right. We gave solemn assurances to Mikhail Gorbachev that we were not going to do that and we broke our word on that. So what's Russia to do? Bottom line for me, I am not the slightest bit sympathetic to the regime in Kiev or to this clown that is their president. I'm not the slightest bit sympathetic to the fact that they appear to be pouring out Ukrainian lives like, you know, there's no end to them when the opposite is the case. Where this war goes, I can guarantee you the Ukraine is not winning it. Yeah, that's the weird thing is you have the mainstream saying they are. And it's like, this is such a big thing. Obviously, I'm not there, so it's hard for me to verify. But it's like such a big thing that a lot of people should be able to verify. And how can you lie so blatantly if Russia is winning as you would think they would be winning? The Russians are in an equal diplomatic mess because they've got to bring this war to a conclusion. The only way they can bring it to a conclusion is simply to occupy the whole dang country, which they can do, but they don't want to bear the expense of it and they don't want to bear the rebuilding cost of it. They need an end to the war. China needs an end to the war. And frankly, the Ukraine needs an end to the war. They've got a nutcase imposed on their country as their leader that, again, you know, my hope, Greg, is that what will happen is that the Ukrainian people themselves will wake up and realize that the last friends that they have on Earth are not anyone in the West. Yes. Well said. And that is kind of what concerns me is it seems like the rest of the world is kind of getting together and being like, hey, we don't need them. They are kind of bullies and have been for a long time. I mean, why don't we find a way to work together and our combined strength might be greater? Yeah. The United States is hemorrhaging allies. We have allies that talk the American game and are walking the American walk. But I can guarantee you, Japan being the primary case in point of a country that has, if you studied their diplomatic initiatives in the last 10 years, Japan is talking the talk, but it's walking a very different walk. Eventually, I think it's over unless America changes its game. We cannot continue to be the policemen of the world and expect everybody else to stop and think. We're going to try and promote this woke culture and push it on countries like Argentina or Iran. Ain't going to sell, folks. No. It's not even selling in this country. Right. So how do you expect it to sell in those countries? This is tearing our alliance system apart. And the more the U.S. military adopts these policies, the faster those countries are going to bolt. Yeah. And this military is, I guarantee you, a woke American military is not going to be in any shape to fight Monaco, let alone the Russians. That's true. That's true. And it's a shame because I agree with you when you say it's an example, a lot of this, of the globalists' incompetence, the leaders' incompetence. But also, we can't change our game when our voting systems are compromised. I think that's why they've gone so hard is because they know, well, we got this on lock, so let's go as hard as we can go because no matter who objects to it, they can't really do anything. And we can create the perception that most people are on board and our next guy is going to get just as many votes as the last guy. And yeah, yeah, exactly. We're stuck with this guy until 2024 at best. And with a fraudulent voting system and what happened in the last election, and yes, I believe it was fraud, and no one will convince me that it's mathematically possible to be anything else. No. We're stuck possibly with this nutcase, this grifter, this shill for another possible four years. The country won't last that long. The country won't last that long. Yikes. Well. So we've got to wake up, folks, and hope and pray this thing in the Ukraine does not spin out of control. Because I think there are people just loony enough in Swampington, D.C. to want it to spin out of control. And they have no idea what they're doing. None. None, none, none. Right. If they want it to spin out of control, it will really fast. And before we go, Greg, the other thing I want to mention that people have to pay attention to is Dmitry Medvedev is the chairman of the Russian equivalent of our National Security Council. And if you've been watching the statements that Medvedev has been making in the last, I'd say, two to three weeks, Medvedev has been sending warning after warning to the leadership of the West. And I don't think they get, and for that matter, I don't even think our mainstream profit tainment media knows what he's saying. They're interpreting his warnings that Russia will strike back and will consider, and these were his words, will consider the use of all alternatives, including, his words, asymmetrical warfare. Now, if you were to listen to the American profit tainment media, you're interpreting that as, oh, here we go again, war, Russian threats to use nuclear weapons. That's not what Medvedev is saying, folks. What Medvedev is saying is, if you're targeting our leaders or their relatives, like Alexander Dugana a few months back, or more recently, Vladimir Putin himself, via drones, which incidentally, the Russians are now saying the drones were too small and could only have been lost or activated from inside Russian territory. Huh. That means covert ops, right? This is what Dmitry Medvedev is telling the Western leadership. Russia may start to take the gloves off on covert operations, asymmetrical warfare, and personal assassination. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah, that's a wow. And, yeah, not to open a whole can of worms, but you've done great work talking about Project Paperclip, not only here, but the Nazis that the Soviets got as well. Yes. And it seems like the Nazis themselves might be in control of both intelligence agencies. And it could get really messy because, obviously, there's double, triple agents across these two countries, and you don't want them activated. I strongly suspect that that group of people is much more influential in Western intelligence agencies, and particularly in the United States, Canada, and Australia, than it is inside of Russian intelligence. For representing the national interest, you know, if I had to pick between the clowns in America or the Federalist Sluzberg, Bezer, Poznosti in Russia, I would put my money on the latter as representing national interests. I would give you a plug nickel for any of the clowns in America. Yeah, yeah. Well, there is no national identity here anymore, no real pride in the whole thing we got going on anymore. There is. It's just not part of the major media's, you know, propaganda program. Well, right. Perception management, once again. Right, yeah, exactly. Well, I'm glad we could slide in a little bit of current events because those are topics that I always like to hear you speak about. But, man, this has been a wild ride, really interesting. I'm glad we could revisit the Giza Death Star, and I'm glad you put out this new book that kind of summarizes it all up. And the next book, The Demon of Anchor, sounds really amazing, like it's going to be great too. It's a small book, but I think it will tie together a lot of stuff for a lot of people. Well, I look forward to it, and I'm super happy we could do this again. I hope we have many more. I consider you one of the greats, and you're certainly in my personal podcast guest hall of fame. Before I let you go, let's remind the people of what they get if they do become a geezer at GizaDeathStar.com. Well, the membership is $12 a month, which, incidentally, that's been our price ever since we started this website about 15 years ago. We have not raised our rates. Basically, you get access to all the members' content. There's quite a few webinars in there. There's also the ability to participate in our member vid chats, which is by far and away what most members enjoy the most about it. I spend a lot of time talking to my members in the vid chats every other Friday for about, I would say, on average, anywhere from four to six hours. Just fielding questions, taking their comments, talking. It's our social life, but it's a lot of fun. Yes, it is. Well, excellent. Another classic, good sir. Take care, and thanks again. All right, Greg. Thanks for having me back. See you around. And would you look at that, coming in hot, the return of the great Dr. Joseph P. Farrell and his canine sidekick, Shiloh. Going back to the original idea that put him on the conspiracy culture map. And long-time listeners know Dr. Farrell is in a small club of people that have been here as much as he has. Which is because he's such an active writer, and his subject matter is pretty varied, and he's as much a staple as anyone in this space, I would say. And I'm very appreciative of the many episodes we have done. And big thanks again to Damn My Eyes, one of my favorite versions of the THC opener. I love collecting more of them, but some have sounded a bit silly and cartoony to be kicking off important interviews with, so I like the darker, slightly more serious versions, just because I think they set the tone well. Anyway, I'm always collecting more at thehiresidechats at gmail.com. Keep them coming. But this was great, because not only has his theory about the pyramids evolved, or at least been fleshed out to a greater and more detailed degree since he first put it out there, but I also think I've gotten better at wrapping my head around some of these concepts, and how a lot of these alternative themes brought up against each other. I will say, though, it feels a little disappointing that I didn't get to read the new new book, The Demon in the Acre, before we did this. But at least I knew about it, and I wasn't totally blindsided, so we did get to preview it quite a bit. It sounds amazing, and it just slides so many pieces into place considering alternative physics, spiritual forces triggered through the use of those physics, non-human intelligences, effects on our world, and plasma as a major bridge connecting these things. Like, that is the stuff I absolutely love right now. I don't even think you have to come to the same Giza Death Star conclusion to be fascinated by that stuff and to find the underlying science valid, because this weapon hypothesis would just be one example of several where we see something that might have operated in such a paradigm. As I said, I want the pyramids to have been tools for exploring altered states of consciousness and blasting off into astral travel. I think that, or even the welling up of natural energies using pyramidal geometry, would explain why they are all over the planet. But if there are pyramids on Mars as well, what's that about? How would we not consider that there would be a connection between those and ours? And if not two receivers of some type of communication or travel, then it's likely what they quote-unquote sent was some kind of damage-inflicting effect, because that's what we do. Plus, you fold in the John Brandenburg stuff about the isotopes in the Martian atmosphere, and things start sliding into view. And like we talked about, Dr. Farrell makes a really good case for his premise in the book, and breaks down why the other popular theories are inferior. But he does make the argument that humanity historically builds weapons and puts most of our budget or big project energy into the military bucket in pretty much all the times that we know about, so I see what he's saying. But Egyptians seem to be obsessed with consciousness in the other world. Most of their imagery seems to be more about that than war, but he obviously has a much more detailed understanding of the full scope. But fun stuff, much respect to Dr. Farrell. Becoming a Giza Death Star member is worth its weight in monoatomic gold. And if you only heard the first hour here, please just help me help you and convert over to plus. Start getting the two-hour shows, because so often the first hour is barely getting off the ground. You need to get the best parts. Become a member at thehiresidechats.com or find me on Patreon. You can still use your podcast apps. You just plug in a new URL. It's worth it if you're a regular listener, but you start with a seven-day free trial anyway. In today's plus show, we talked about plasma beans, crop circles, and ceremonial magic. Tetrahedonal geometry and the gravio-acoustic rotation of the Giza complex. Non-locality, consciousness, and Napoleon. The ancient texts and writings that support Dr. Farrell's position on the pyramids. The cosmic quarantine and the secret space program. The Soviet black budget research on the pyramids and their conclusions. And then we folded in some current events. What's really going on behind the scenes of the international banking system? And what's up with Russia, Ukraine, Mr. Global, and the next conflict? All good stuff. Come on in. As for higher side news, I know this is only the third show of the month, and it's May 25th. But you will get two more before the month ends. And so brace yourself for some rapid-fire THC goodness. I'm working overtime, don't you worry. But let's also take a gander at the meetup calendar and see what the events are. I'm hoping at least a few people showed up for the Bali one. I haven't heard, but that was fun to see. And on deck next, we got a truther discussion at the Trails Cafe in Los Angeles, California on May 27th. We have a Vortex hangout at the Sundowner Bar and Grill in Sedona, Arizona on June 3rd. Also on June 3rd, the Conspiracy Theorizers at High Springs Brewing in High Springs, Florida. And then we also have two on June 10th, one in Kirkcudbright, Dumfries, and Galloway, UK. And another recurring one out in Colorado, this time Golden, Colorado. And it seems like Weed will be involved. Go forth and meet some cool new people. Share some mutual love of THC. It's all free and totally user-generated. Go make an event of your own. Highersidemeetups.com And thank you, No Agenda, for doing it first. All right, I'm going to cut myself loose and just say thanks for listening. Thanks for keeping the faith. And thanks to Dr. Farrell. Much love to you and yours. I'll see you next time. Your move, Pyramid Plasma Weapon Wielders. Off the Books Physics Suppressors and Giza Death Star Secret Keepers. Your fucking move. With some side chats, THC. Just watch the TV and obey. Take some more pills when you're blue. We'll break you out of... Together we will make...