Guy Anderson | Tesla, Cabbage Patch Kid Cloning, & The Lost Empire Of Tartaria

it is a beautiful day in the neighborhood people from the sunshine state i'm greg carlwood and given the scale and scope to which we're lied to about nearly everything these days one has to wonder if the onslaught of dishonesty and misdirection we experience in real time has been true at every other point in the human timeline too and as more researchers comb over the official stories with a bit more skepticism and a fine-tooth comb we find all kinds of things that don't make much sense and questions arise that we never thought to ask when we were just children forcibly pushed through a propaganda pipeline taking in all their carefully crafted lies mouths agape and full acquiescence asking please sir may i have another even the stories of how our first civilization or just humanity itself came to be don't make a lot of sense on the surface as more people look at these issues through the lenses of cyclical resets whether engineered or at least known about and prepared for by the parasite class a certain clarity starts to form around events like world's fairs out of place architecture alternative energy suppression and even depopulation and repopulation efforts well one such man is today's guest guy anderson he was born in cambridge in 1971 to a master freemason who had an obsession with egyptian history and architecture and technology and so his fascination with conspiracy theories and hidden occult history started at a very young age at 35 he also joined the freemasons at the grand lodge of the united kingdom in grand queen street london but the higher he progressed the more he realized that the organization was corrupt and the chances of gaining any real hidden knowledge was highly unlikely for years he made his living as a tattoo artist even becoming part of a tv show called tattoo fixers during the pandemic his interest in alternative everything ventured into the realm of tartaria erased history tesla and more and he authored a popular book titled tesla and the cabbage patch kids he followed that up with another titled rise of the clones the cabbage patch babies and just recently released his big book of conspiracy theories from agartha to zombies touching on 87 of the most compelling subjects he's ever explored here we go the great reset researcher hidden history highlighter and cabbage patch cloning chronicler guy welcome to the higher side thanks for having me greg and i've got to say that's the best introduction i've ever heard ah i try all part of the nine to five around here but thank you and i'm psyched for this i am really intrigued by the big system reset saga and these threads that go around obviously this is quite trendy in the alternative world and we've talked about some of these stories before and orphan trains and cabbage patch postcards but i have not talked to someone who's written two books about it so when i first heard the title of your first book tesla and the cabbage patch kids i was surprised just to even see those two things linked and maybe we can start there it seems like you're even open to the idea that tesla is a composite character basically made up i've heard you talk about this a little bit but that's quite a premise it's interesting you say that because sometimes i kick myself but not just calling the book tartaria because you already have to be on board to a certain degree to be able to connect those two things the cabbage patch babies and nikola tesla to tartaria so i often wonder if i'd have just called it tartaria would it have sold more would it have sold less i'll never know well there's a certain crowd looking for tartaria material so it's all about those keywords unfortunately they don't read us in on exactly which ones make the real money but i still find the whole thing fascinating what aspects of tesla's biography make you skeptical that maybe he was made up well we would consider tesla i mean having said i'm saying we the royal way if you stop the average person in the street and said tesla they're going to instantly think of the car manufacturer but tesla as we as as we know him nikola tesla he was the pioneer of modern technology yet there isn't any video footage of him nothing but there is of edison and there is weinstein that was the first thing i found unusual so i contacted his museum and they said that they thought he might be camera shy this is a man who was paid allegedly to to give talks to attend dinner parties he was interviewed by everyone this isn't a shy man so that was the first thing i found a little bit unusual the second thing which does appear to to happen with a lot of historical figures it's that he has no living descendants there's nobody we can interview today that can show us photographs of them growing up with him or their parents growing up with him there's nothing i want him to have existed i really do but i just have this doubt in my mind that i share with napoleon bonaparte that maybe he is a fictitional character created to slowly introduce certain technology without it having to be explained as being repurposed or reverse engineered from a previous civilization you can clump it all under one name walk away job done tick a box and nobody's going to go to the parasites as i call them and say hold on a minute where did this suddenly appear from and i think that that's what they do i think they've done that for a very very long time yeah it's a really interesting idea i looked into this a little bit further but einstein and tesla shared 63 years of life almost the whole life and yet we have a lot of einstein pictures i even found some archival einstein home video footage of him just walking around his grounds or whatever and tesla died in 1943 four years after the wizard of oz came out so there were plenty of camcorders around i mean they were even getting into color at that point and yet there's no footage of him we only have like five photographs it is a little bit sketchy and then he lived on the 33rd floor of the new yorker hotel now this i got from you but is he supposed to have lived up there for 30 years that's where he was breeding the pigeons but that's a long time to live in a hotel it is isn't it and a lot of people believe that he built an ether system within the hotel itself and that people could hear it vibrating when they walk past and feel it so yeah i agree the 33rd floor though that doesn't suggest to me nikola tesla because he was obsessed with the number three so why wasn't he on the third floor or why wasn't he in room number three 33 to me has too much synergy with freemasonry so i think that there are clues there and of course he had two hotel rooms lived in one worked in the other yeah it's pretty clear that we always see the 33 and that should set off a red flag but yet somebody has to live on the 33rd floor it's like it is a hidden code that is somewhat ubiquitous in all these stories when you were in freemasonry i'm just curious if you ever got wind of uh any indication that yes there are events peppered with these codes i mean i know you probably didn't get to the tippy tippy top but did you ever hear anybody make any comments related to such a thing no no and there were some high-ranking freemasons in my in my lodge the secretary who really runs the lodge was the prime minister's advisor for the metropolitan police so he was very very high-ranking and the person that actually invited me to join that particular lodge had the keys to the city of london symbolic yeah right so basically back in the day he would have had the right to take his cattle through you know and things like that so it's just symbolic but yeah two very very high-ranking freemasons nothing at all and i got to the third degree which is where most people get to and stay i never went any higher than that because i could see by them that what i wanted to know wasn't available to someone like me right right so to back it all up you got interested in this through the work of max egan who's also been a guest here before but what really sent you down this path you mentioned that you've been into conspiracy for many years and in the 80s and 90s it definitely was a lot different than it's gotten in the internet age no doubt i mean that could be a whole conversation just in the change there but we thought we knew everything there was to know right and then the internet came out and they let us know there's much more down in that rabbit hole but what is it about this idea of a tartarian empire that sucked you in so completely when you already were used to ideas like atlantis and that i didn't know until relatively recently about a year ago i realized why or at least i think i realized why as you quite rightly said you know i joined the freemasons i i went to through a lot of expense and an awful lot of time to try and find occulted knowledge and i was reading david ike's books and books like from atlantis to the sphinx and the holy blood and the holy grail and then dan brown and so i was just absorbing every conspiracy theory i could my main interest i think eventually became human cloning but max egan that there was something about tartaria that resonated with me so a year ago i asked someone who actually for a living that they're very successful very successful author carries out past life regression and i i i'm not sure i'm on the fence with it all i don't understand it but i asked them to book me in for a session and within half an hour i found myself wandering around what would have been tartaria i was wandering around somewhere in russia i was she estimated maybe seven feet tall at least red hair green eyes and i'm a dairy farmer and all of a sudden out of the sky meteorites appear balls of fire and within moments everything around me is on fire so i run back to my my home and my wife and children three daughters and my wife they've died everything's burned and then i'm walking i'm walking through the fire that everything the ground is on fire everything around me is in flames and i'm walking and she said to me where are you going and i said i'm going to agartha and she said why are you going there i said i'm going for help and she said i think in another life you were tartarian and you were there when it ended so around 1812 when we had the napoleonic wars and russia was literally burning to the ground in ashes and that in itself is very unusual it looked more like actually a nuclear attack than anything else this resonates with me because she believed i actually lived through it and watched it fall watched it burn to the ground now i don't know but for me it certainly answered a question of all the conspiracy theories of all why is this one an obsession i do happen to think it's the biggest of them the biggest one because of what it connects to maybe that's why i i don't know because that's the thing isn't it if we've lived before if we've reincarnated we don't know i mean some people appear to but i don't know i don't have any memory of anything but i certainly wasn't guided she wasn't pushing me in any particular direction this came from nowhere but there's part of me that thinks maybe i wanted to see that yeah that's really interesting i do believe in resonance i think that's a lot of why they put truth in fiction you know when we see truths used as the narrative in a film and then that film gets wildly popular i think that's because there's a subconscious aspect that recognizes the truth beneath that even though we just look at it as a film and i had a past life regression done once and i was really surprised how highly visual it was i at that time hadn't read fiction in a while so my mental imaginational visualization muscles were atrophied pretty far and you know stoners don't get a lot of dreams they say i guess that's true but i just hadn't had a strong resonant visual experience in a while and yet going into that hypnotic state and going through a regression yeah i felt like i did experience a lot of aspects of a previous lifetime it wasn't super significant but it was very detailed and yeah i have to say i don't know what that is either you're jumping into like some aspect of the collective conscious and living out a life or that is actually a previous life of an individual if there is like a strand of consciousness that goes throughout the timeline but how curious that this would resonate with you because perhaps this is an aspect of a previous life so the critics of the idea of a vast tartarian empire wiped from history that utilized and promoted free etheric energy those critics usually say that tartary and tartaria were just kind of catch-all terms that europeans used for this big poorly misunderstood area of asia and russia full of different tribes and groups that they just didn't know a lot about and it was used on maps sometimes so we go back and look and we're like oh look tartary it's on this map well that was kind of just like saying we don't know a lot about these people this is a label we're gonna put on it i mean that's what they say they don't consider it a big organized civilization and if this really was something erased then sure it's gonna be a little hard to find true evidence but help make the case that this was an empire and that those critics are wrong about what they say about this kind of catch-all term well first of all with regard to cartography there isn't just the odd map out there there's hundreds of them and of course some of them are very detailed they actually give you names of towns and cities and the other thing that would that would i suppose debunk that theory is that marco polo traveled to tartaria spent time with genghis khan and genghis khan was the first person to introduce what we would today consider to be a passport that allowed people free travel so he was he was giving people free travel from europe into the area we would call tartaria with the surety of being protected and being kept safe with his name if people were traveling from europe into what we call tartaria how could it be that nobody really knew where they were going yeah that's an excellent point so no people were commonly traveling there it's easier to debunk it than it is to promote it because of the the ridicule so if you're part of the mainstream and graham hancock experienced this on a magnificent scale it's easier to attack someone than it is to defend a theory that isn't accepted by the mainstream narrative because you can initially you can be bombarded with ridicule but secondly you can be defunded it could result in a historian in a university losing their career and not just their job but but permanently losing their career so i think there are people that have an interest in not going outside of the mainstream but perhaps one of the biggest clues of all would be the declassified cia document that i often send people and i can send that to you as well so you can put a link in that actually in no uncertain terms clearly states in it that we are to remove all traces of tartaria history absolutely everything is to be removed that is new to me i love that that's juicy yeah i send it to people all the time because that's one of the things that i'm often hit with how can you prove any of this happened well you can't see behind me but i collect old books encyclopedias and atlases and they're full of population figures for tartaria they even break down tartaria into regions religions they're all there but of course from the a sort of mid 1800s onwards the second edition third edition comes out that everything's been removed but my i suppose the cia document is is a classic for me but i'd also suggest people looking to the russian mathematician anatoly fomenko yes yes yeah he was the first person to really start jumping up and down about it and explained why it was removed he's still around i would love to speak to him but he doesn't speak english and i would love to have a chat with him because i'm a huge fan but he was the one who really started to put it all together and explained why they changed our timeline and why tartaria had to be removed yes i actually pursued an interview with him a few years back and yeah it fell apart i was going to get a translator do the whole thing but i had done that once before and it's actually quite laborious and so i am really interested in these out-of-place artifacts like michael cremo's work but now it's out-of-place architecture we see this too and there is a for example i live in tampa there's a big moorish building right where the hillsborough river meets the bay tampa bay is like the hub of everything and you look across the water and there's this huge moorish building it's now part of the university and then funny enough the other side of tampa bay is called saint petersburg why is it called saint petersburg you know and then just a few hours away is saint augustine and saint augustine is known as the oldest continually inhabited european founded settlement in the united states founded in 1565 everyone's always talking about the colonies up north you know on the on the eastern coast but no i mean florida saint augustine apparently is the first and what is its big tourist attraction a giant star fort on the beach so it's just really weird i i see these things just wandering around florida and uh they're compelling and i've heard you talk about the moors before and i've talked to ross ben about this too because ross ben calls the indigenous he is black he's a rastafarian guy and he talks about the indigenous in america and he kind of is referring to black people and native americans and he uses it kind of as a label for both and that's because he's operating under the premise that not all black people were brought here as slaves that is part of the fabricated history there were sophisticated traveling groups from africa called the moors and they came here and some of the architecture left around is theirs and yet that had to be another aspect that was taken away but you say turks aztecs moors they're all kind of part of it right yeah so tartaria really we're talking about an expanse of land that would be russia asia eastern europe but it's the ethos so we are labeling we're calling a civilization a period of time tartaria but actually it's a collective term a blanket term and yes the moors are responsible for a lot of the architecture that goes not just throughout america but it travels through europe you can almost see the route that they took because portugal and spain for example are full of moorish architecture and he is exactly in the same ballpark as me the architecture you're looking at in america the world's fairs buildings like penn station for example the white house the statue of liberty and the star forts that i i believe that these are moorish and i do not believe the story that so many people were brought over from africa on ships i've done the numbers it doesn't stack up i think that actually they were there before anybody else was and they have whitewashed history quite literally whitewashed buildings too with paint you know to make them look brand new so yeah i i think the people that actually established america were the moors yeah they'd say the vikings made it over here too there's all kinds of stuff egyptian mummies found in the grand canyon i've had some people make the case that you know we think they're egyptian mummies because we associate mummies with egypt but who knows if where the tradition of mummification really came from we just know it ended up in egypt eventually so let's get into the idea that the ancient world actually harnessed frequency and vibration for the greater good i love the idea that the cathedrals were worked on for this effect that to give people an actual genuine spiritual experience the stained glass psychedelic windows entheogens stronger than wine and crackers chanting fumigation all these things i've even heard you say that we called them organs because they harmonize our internal organs the case that some of these were healing centers is also really compelling but help make the case that this wasn't just a fringe thing because we even know electroculture is still out there today but help us understand how this was actually a key aspect of an erased culture not just something on the outskirts of the fringe but really uh at the heart of a whole cultural ethos yeah i believe that cathedrals were repurposed that originally that they are perhaps cathode rails and were energy centers i don't think it's a coincidence that pipe organs are called organs and we know that you can actually heal with frequency you can go out today and buy a rife machine and people are now using that for all sorts of treatment cancer being you know particularly prominent so the theory is and it is a theory because obviously you know a lot of this is suppressed so we can't find out the truth no matter how far we dig with what tools we have available to us that people were going to these buildings to actually heal and in germany there were places called tier gardens where you could walk your pet in particular dogs where you could walk it around the grounds and the frequency and vibration within that was achieving the same thing people also believe that the bells were used not just to heal but also to ward away evil spirits the wrong frequency of i or vibration that that that was also being a huge part of the construction of these buildings so yes of course we can't prove that that's what happened but a lot of people do suggest that calling an organ an organ is a random a little bit of a random name and we know that frequency you know free frequency just music itself can change how you feel in a few seconds we also know that the bells were replaced they went from 432 to 440 the rockefeller foundation actually standardized that worldwide so yes i believe that from the evidence that i've seen that it is quite possible that organs were used to heal organs and that people were going into these buildings to actually heal themselves or perhaps maintain their well-being yeah you have actually some compelling stuff in the book you have a chapter on disney which seems a little out of place but not really if you you know read between the lines of things that one's in the cloning yeah right right and that's the one i spent the most time with because i feel like i'm in the advanced class so i jumped to book two but it is interesting that i've heard someone make the case that the movie fantasia which is a little out of place in disney's canon was actually made to recontextualize and showcase the new 440 standard and they're like look at all the orchestra and how it sounds and like look at this magnificent new standard we've got and you know disney's as dirty as anything so i find that to be just a really fun interesting conspiracy but going to your first book you make the case that the last reset was 1776 obviously a big date in american lore also the date of the founding of the illuminati so that's another big thing but you mentioned napoleon and that also is right in this window i mean my history is kind of trash and that's kind of because my education was trash but i always mentally would put napoleon way before the founding of america but it's so crazy because he lived from 1769 to 1821 so the napoleonic wars and all this stuff and his experience in the king's chamber that is all right in the same 70 1776 time frame so when you say that he is also an element of a character created to just kind of paper over a lot of history and a lot of death and depopulation it starts to make sense but talk to us about that napoleon angle and just the 1776 reset in general well obviously for your american viewers all they need to do is flip over a dollar bill and it's there in for everybody to see you have the pyramid with the all-seeing eye new world order in latin 1776 but some people refer to it as the beginning of satan's little season you've also got the statue of liberty which perhaps is the biggest marker of them all and i would encourage people to look at the m the first roman numeral on the declaration of independence the statue of liberty is holding and you'll notice it's out of alignment which would suggest it was added that fits with anatoly femenko's work i believe that that actually is a statue of apollo and was harnessing energy and it was actually paying homage or worship if you like to the heavens where the energy was coming from and it's on an 11 pointed star fort and the cornerstone was laid by the grand master of the lodge of new york i think that the freemasons were given it or took it for themselves i don't think they really know or knew then what actually that structure was capable of doing and once upon a time it would have been shiny you know copper but horse urine can speed up that process quite quickly and stop it from functioning but 1776 is a pivotal moment and because that is the year that new world order began and as i said a moment ago in america that's more obvious to people than it is anywhere else because you you see it all the time on your money that's when it all begun and you also mentioned the illuminati adams club i think that that ended up being something that it wasn't i think that it was a group of people that were enlightened and it was hijacked as so many other things have been too but with regard to napoleon i would urge people to have a look into his backstory when he's not fighting and winning almost every battle he ever walks into he's writing romantic novels and poetry again no living descendants it's very strange he came from nowhere relatively nowhere and become the most powerful man in europe if not the world and then disappeared and it was anatoly femenco again that uh got me digging into him yeah i think that when you make the case for composite characters they usually are kind of presented in a juvenile way or they have some quirky thing that it's almost like a magic trick that makes them seem more real like napoleon is small and he had the napoleon complex and that's why he did all this stuff and people say oh well sure yeah that makes sense to me but looking at this because i did google did napoleon have children apparently he did they say napoleon had one legitimate son napoleon ii king of rome born from his second marriage to marie louise and several unacknowledged illegitimate children with mistresses including this one alexandria colonial waleski or something but apparently he had one what what's the deal i mean obviously they can make things up but is there an alternative take on napoleon the second yeah that's uh again this is i'm sort of leaning again towards anatoly femenco yeah that it's fictitious i mean you remember sonny and share obviously everybody knows share but sonny bono well he claimed to be a descendant as well of napoleon he was his great great great granddad yeah he came out with it that was debunked so yeah i i think that you know if you go back far enough you can't question anybody so you've only got to skip a few generations and it's impossible to quantify so yeah i i don't believe that and of course what they've done with his tomb makes it impossible for anybody to say we'd like to run some dna analysis because it's uh it's sat under tons of uh of marble there's no way you can get to that yeah yeah i'm actually going to go and see it in february but of course as far as i'm concerned there's probably nothing in it but yeah i i think that they've created fictitious characters some people and i'm not one of them but some people believe that that's the same for adolf that he was actually played by some people say charlie chaplin some people say it was walk disney himself that he was a fictitious fictitious character i've heard that numerous times but the bottom line is i i do believe that if you're going to create a character to cover something for you to explain something or almost in some cases to put blame onto something that happened the best way you can do that is to make sure there's nobody wandering around right now that say hold on a moment i've got all these letters here he said something completely different and he also mentioned who told him to do all this and who he was working for so if there is a living descendant out there of napoleon bonaparte i suppose my first question would be where are they we would know who they were most likely yeah well i mean i don't know napoleon the second i could go down and see who napoleon the third was and like you can yeah you don't get anywhere i've tried it man and yeah you as you say like they lie to us so much the system is so corrupt the academia system is so corrupt that it's not silly to question some of these things we've taken for granted it's like do you trust people who lie to you regularly about all different areas if you lie in one area chances are you aren't being truthful in others either so i think everything is on the table for re-examination and you say coincidentally within a few years of 1776 every major city in the world before or after had at least one world's fair and when you go down that rabbit hole we've talked about it here before but just the amount of them and the scope of them and the images of them they're insane and then we know the rich parasite class of the day funded these things and from the records i've seen they've lost a lot of money on all of them but they kept doing them so why were they making these investments because these are shrewd businessmen they must have some reason why they want to keep having these big festivals so it's just interesting many of them were also said to be temporary or made to be destroyed despite the effort that was put into them i grew up in st louis and i lived in san diego for 13 years so forest park that is where ours was in st louis and then balboa park in san diego is where you see all this ornate architecture it's really insane to see up close like how you could build a building three stories tall and on every corner at every level is an intricate carving and they're all perfect and you could say oh well this was made for the world's fair and it was made to be destroyed well then why is it still there why is it still uh fully functional and the biggest thing that san diego has going for it so it's interesting but the world's fairs what do you think their purpose was knowing that these guys were investing in it they were losing money was this to re-educate people about what the new world was going to be going forward i think that it served two purposes one it was showing that well it was lying but ultimately they wanted to use these to show people what they were capable of now you've got to bear in mind like you quite rightly said they appear everywhere in every major town the city in the world and in some places and australia is a good example of this a world's fair appeared in the middle of nowhere with zero population so these were clearly already there because they didn't have the workforce where did all these skilled craftsmen come from and all of the different tradesmen and also it's worth looking into where they got the where they quarried the stone from because you know some narratives suggest that paper mache was used i mean it's absolutely ridiculous you know that there were buildings that had over 300 rooms in them but these can't be temporary structures so why would they spend all that money the buildings in my opinion were already there they didn't have the workforce they didn't have the population to actually achieve that worldwide as well to achieve that kind of level of construction and architecture but there are no records of who actually worked and built them the other interesting thing is there was nowhere for anybody to stay so the narrative is that in some cases people people camped out on the grounds you know i think that they were brainwashing people because on display in a lot of the world's fairs they had indigenous people yeah and they were on display as primitive and savage they were whitewashing history they were also in my opinion used to introduce new technology so you go along and you marvel at what's possible what's possible by the new people the inheritors of the old world look what we can do and they were painted over white and a lot of them were called white cities i also think a big part of it was the establishment of the major corporations like this is a coca-cola exhibit have a coke everybody's gonna have one soon enough here are our top 20 corporations that are gonna make everything enjoy and i thought we'd get into incubators and cloning a lot sooner than we have but we got to talk about this in the first hour so a big part of it was these incubator displays and it is quite weird you go into the history with this guy dr martin cooney and he was known as the incubator doctor he was actually born with the name michael cohen but he changed his name and he apparently wasn't a very good doctor and you can tell us about that but just the idea that these were incubators with human babies in them on loan from hospitals what mother is gonna say oh you want to take my baby my fragile baby preemie baby out of the hospital and take them a couple hundred miles to a world's fair just to put them on display publicly to show people what can be done sure go ahead that doesn't check out but you talk to us about the incubators and the history of the technology and this guy who was doing this tour you're absolutely right but the interesting thing with martin cooney is that he wasn't a doctor he had no medical qualifications whatsoever he called himself a doctor the other interesting thing associated with him is that and i i urge people to to jump onto youtube because that's the only place where i know they are and have a look at the first narrated movie it's by someone called alice guy and it's called the cabbage fairy and it depicts babies being grown in cabbages and then they're sold to people that come along she was inspired by going to the paris exposition and seeing on display dr martin cooney's incubator babies that's where her inspiration came from to make that movie the first narrated movie ever trouble is the movie was made a year before the paris exposition so she's tied into this too the whole thing smells now he was inspired to create the first incubator allegedly by seeing poultry incubators at the paris zoo there's so many things about it that pick apart the whole narrative and one of them is that you as you mentioned where did the babies come from but more importantly how did they transport them these were critical how did they get them from one place to another now in america allegedly they all came from new york on loan a baby that is struggling and fighting for its life has been loaned by its parents to go on display in an exhibition and then sold sold at the end sold at the end sold at the end and in london they were on loan from paris how did they get them there they'd have needed you needed incubators powered right and how are they powered it's like that old seinfeld episode with the frogger machine like you gotta keep it plugged in and you gotta keep the power on the whole time and it's a logistical nightmare to transport something that must remain with power especially in that time yeah yeah and it's a relatively new thing so a lot of people believe and i am one of them that these babies were actually coming from somewhere else entirely that i think that they were actually clones that they were repopulating with clones it's interesting that they're all caucasian too the technology with cloning most people consider it to be relatively new and you've got companies like clone aid out there now that will offer to clone you you can go on their website today and fill in an application form but if you look at the epic of gilgamesh the story in the sumerian text that we were as far as a lot of people are concerned we are the result of genetic modification by the anunnaki and if that is true and i can't prove or disprove that i wasn't around then you know right cloning may well have been around for a very long time and may well be the reason we are here right now so if that is the case i think that they repopulated with specifically caucasian babies and the world's fairies where they were on display and then put on sale and you've brought up the postcards now and you can see they're very popular late 1800s yes and i was going to say a lot of the people the vast majority of people who listen to the show are just hearing the audio but i'm going to show some of these anyone can google cabbage patch postcards and see all the images but i'm going to show some of these while you just talk about the notion of these postcards i've heard you say that in french on some of these they even say for sale but it is very strange there are all these postcards that insinuate that babies can be grown in a form of cabbages and i guess talk to us a little bit about the lore of the association between cabbages and children because it goes back further than just these postcards yeah it's slavic folklore uh that babies were actually grown in cabbage patches it's slavic and it's because then they considered the cabbage to resemble a womb and there is a statue outside a maternity hospital in tomsk in russia which people can have a look at the statue is called i'm anna and it's a baby in amongst a cabbage and people actually kiss it they kiss the baby on the head if they want a boy they kiss it lower down if they want a girl and they've been doing that for a very long time so yeah in slavic folklore that's where it came from the cabbage is associated with reproduction years ago they would actually boil cabbage leaves to see what color they would turn and it would determine whether or not they were going to have a boy or a girl oddly enough though it was about 50 55 successful well it would be because it only turned one of two colors so i don't think we could really use that as being an effective way of determining the sex of a child but it's also connected to halloween which used to be called mischief night where children would go girls in particular would pluck a cabbage from somebody else's garden the quality of the cabbage determined their future husband if they picked a good cabbage they were going to have a handsome clever intelligent husband oh you found it and then they would throw it at the door and run away and that was the beginning of trick or treat so it's everywhere but it is slavic folklore because they considered the the cabbage to represent a wound why i don't know yeah because there were lots of things that you could have picked instead of a cabbage well i mean it looks quite vaginal right there it does but that's i think because of how they've actually constructed that particular statue but yeah so the the whole cabbage association goes back a very very long way and the postcards are depicting the same thing but the interesting thing is that the postcards didn't come from russia the postcards actually started in germany became popular in france in particular and then ended up in all over america and i've seen the back of some of these postcards and people will be able to find them online one of them actually says that you must get one of these before they actually run out and and people should be able to find that actually on google images that's where i found it i mean you know i've spent hours and hours searching through them but you can often see the reverse of them you know and i look at the address it was sent to and and and what they said but they they would started off being called cabbage patch baby postcards but slowly they became known as repopulation postcards so the theory is and it is a theory because as you said you know we never really know what's going on do we we're never given the truth that's why we're doing what we're doing that these were grown these were mass produced in america in particular they were looking to do that yes and you do have a chapter in the book about baby farms which is quite grim i mean it's really sad to think but if you're trying to create babies sure maybe they had some early cloning technology i mean the sperm and the egg we've always had that if you can just cultivate that in some kind of artificial uterus container you know who knows maybe you have to try 10 000 times to get it to work once i believe they would do that and not really care about any uh ones that didn't take and all that but baby farms are just as viable the idea that you would just enslave 50 women and constantly impregnate them and force them to carry out their their births then take those kids away and then wait a couple months and do it again i mean that's obviously sick but they do sick things so if you think that cloning is a bridge too far you don't need cloning if you account for baby farms and there is a serious history of that that you covered and it is very sick isn't it it is yeah and here in in england the most notorious was amelia dyer she's still recognized as being the biggest serial killer of all time because the ones that didn't make the grade were disposed of some were drowned and eventually people the public started finding bodies the idea with the baby farms was that if you were pregnant and shouldn't have been you know out of wedlock or perhaps you know you were messing around or you didn't have the mummy to support the child then you took it to a baby farm and you paid for its upkeep and then you would come and collect it when you could but most people found that when they when they were able to perhaps they'd got married or were in a better situation they would go there to find that their baby was long gone these were then transported using movements like the orphan trains but a lot of the children on the orphan trains came from russia which was perhaps the largest part of tartaria and my mother's father was one of them wow yes there's a part of the book where you include stories from many people who followed your work who submitted their family history and they have facts that support a lot of this stuff in the u.s there was also baby farms a famous one was georgia tan and funny enough rick flair the wrestler who is such a wild man and has a huge alcohol problem i mean he runs around tampa completely wasted in his 80s slobbering puking on the street i mean this is all damage from a childhood that he didn't really have but it's just uh funny that we have a celebrity who actually has this history that he was trafficked by a baby farm run by georgia tan in memphis so very curious and it's just so wild so you you've also said that you think amelia dyer was possibly a scapegoat for an entire industry and they do that too they get caught doing something they lay it all at the feet of one person and then they put them through a trial i think epstein would qualify for that as well oh i was just gonna say epstein yeah absolutely yeah so there's so many little aspects to talk about i'm trying to squeeze in some extra little threads in this first hour but i have a friend of mine who years ago he thought it was so ridiculous i thought 9-11 was an inside job and he fought me on and i was like dude let's just not argue about this because clearly you're not going to be convinced this friend came to me a couple months ago was like hey have you heard about tartaria have you heard that this strange fact he's like do you realize that the great wall of china was built the wrong way and i was like yeah dude you're in the rabbit hole now you know you want to talk about 9-11 but that is an interesting aspect too because you'd find all these little holes throughout history right if this were to be true they'd have to kind of massage things to make them work but the great wall of china is another one isn't it absolutely and your friend's exactly right because it's facing the wrong way that is not designed for china that's designed to keep the chinese out and if you follow tartarian history if you dig and start researching it you'll see that china was the first to break away they were the first people to actually break away from what was the tartarian empire so chinese tartary went first i think that they built that wall to keep them out and also the access it's easier to access the wall from the other side all of the outposts face china so some people have said do you think that the tartarian people were warfaring i don't think so because that's a defensive structure it's not designed to attack it's designed to it to defend so i don't believe that that's the case at all yeah and it's interesting that your friend i mean where is your friend now on 9-11 are they reconsidering that as well no no okay no the government's the good guy always right because tartary is a much bigger leap anybody who digs into 9-11 will see that it was you know a complete hoax it's just funny how we make these logical leaps sometimes but another thing i wanted to talk about in this context referring to disney i don't know if mary poppins was disney from the ground up maybe it was but i heard this interview you did about mary poppins and how the whole thing is seated in there you have flying umbrellas the umbrella is kind of like an antenna and it's used as an antenna and then there's this whole notion of what fireplaces really were in tartaria these big ornate fireplaces they weren't lighting fires in there that was just a valve to what was it decompress the the area you'll have to explain that but the whole movie is about umbrellas and antennas and chimney sweeps and orphans yeah absolutely because it is like you said right at the very start it's in plain sight and i think that they use fiction and science fiction to show us the truth in a way in which it covers their arses because i do think these parasites have this fear of karmic retribution that when they meet their maker which they put off for as long as possible because they seem to be obsessed with longevity or immortality they don't want that moment to come because i think they know they haven't done a very good job of telling us the truth they can say well we made films and we showed them it's not our fault they were they considered it fiction but they told us it was fiction so yet mary poppins is a brilliant example of that and incidentally with the umbrella if people want to have a look there was a device called the homophone now that's and there's footage of these online that used the umbrella as an antenna you had a phone in a wooden box you wired it to a what looked like a fire hydrant and that enabled you to make phone calls while you were out and about and this is going back like a hundred years ago what would become a mobile telephone so there is nothing new under the sun at all with regard to fireplaces it looks like they were harnessing through the ether harnessing energy into the building and then that was actually being amplified around buildings and that they were actually using the fireplaces to actually circulate the heat throughout the building but in the summer doing the reverse and keeping the whole building cool because there is with a lot of them no evidence that there was a fire there at all and in a lot of photographs early photographs of fireplaces you'll see these quite ornate kind of what would you call them quite ornate ornaments either side of the fireplace and i've completely forgotten the name of them which is another story altogether it's why i wrote my first book i'm starting to lose my memory unfortunately which is why my first book happened so i have to write everything down now because my the health service here fried my brain about 10 years ago anyway so another story it's not a very nice one but anyway so they had these devices either side of the fireplace that actually created heat and there was a back plate that amplified it and that would warm the room but the fireplaces themselves were actually used to also keep the at the building cool because you had constant ventilation so in the summer when it was hot they were also cooling the building allowing air to flow by opening sash windows in a certain way you then had circulation of cold air through the building so they served two purposes an early photograph you you won't see a fire grate there's nothing there at all wild yeah you'd think the more ornate stuff especially down towards the sides i mean you really want to keep a fire near that that's like the most intricate artwork you know art piece of art in your home kind of and it's built right in again it's just like so crazy the way things work compared to how they are before i do let you go i want to at least ask you about your latest release this encyclopedia of conspiracy 87 different topics covered i mean what we talked about today is fairly trendy but what are some other things that would we'd find in these 87 subjects you covered maybe some that are more obscure and less trendy i've got to say for me i mean these some of these go back to the very first conspiracy theories i was looking at and atlantis would probably be a big example of that but as i said earlier on a lot of the reason for writing is because my memory isn't quite what it used to be and like i said it's a long story but uh you know perhaps another time but it was completely fried at one point i mean completely fried so i started writing everything down because i was worried about losing it and the notes became books but with conspiracy theories my favorite one of them all is the pig i don't know if if many people have actually looked into that but between seven and nine thousand years ago the pig domesticated pig suddenly appears now apparently it was sort of developed from the boar but it's too human the meat tastes completely different to a boar you can't use any of the boar in surgery or a replacement like heart valves and so on as you can with a domesticated pig also pigs get sunburn their eyes are considered to be human-like they're noted for being incredibly intelligent and there are indigenous tribes out there that are cannibals that actually refer to caucasian people as the long pig because we taste the same as far as they're concerned now in the bible there are stories about um souls that have been cast uh cast away actually being turned into pigs or coming back reincarnated as pigs pigs can't look up they're forced to look down they can never look up to the heavens so there are religions and cultures out there that refuse to eat them now we've been told that that is because they're considered to be a dirty animal and in some cases that the meat won't keep in hot climates but they eat chicken you know the salmonella is is obviously an issue with chicken and poultry as it as it is with pork too um i believe that the reason that they won't eat pigs is because they believe that to be a form of cannibalism and there are some researchers out there that have actually medical researchers that have looked at links from high consumption of pork associated with psychosis and early dementia cannibalism leads to the same things too so my kind of theory in a nutshell is what are you eating now was the pig actually an experiment where they took a boar and a human and that that is what we ended up with because it's very strange that we can use numerous parts including their skin with burns and and and all sorts of medical procedures there's something not right there that we're not being told and i think that the people that created it that know the full story are the ones that refuse to eat it and it just appears overnight it's a domesticated boar it might be a similar look to a boar if you shaved it apart from the fact that its skin is different and they burn in the sun they have to cover themselves in mud so what are we eating there are we eating something that is a hybrid between us and a wild boar are we eating something that is a lost soul but all i know is there are millions of people out there that won't eat it and i don't think we're being told the truth about why that really is so that's in a nutshell that particular chapter but if you read it it will put you off pork i believe it the big pig spiracy man with the weed and the ham and the bacon and the pork belly i'm just completely cooked up my my i better enjoy my brain while i have it because it's going to be gone nothing quite smells like bacon does it no no well i mean maybe burning flesh does but i haven't been in a house fire with anybody apparently so yeah jesus so i looked at the table of contents a lot of great ones in there the holistic doctor dust i'm glad you covered that because that is a strange rabbit hole and that was all before 2020 and now in hindsight of those events it's even more likely to have been coordinated because they just wanted all the alternative voices gone before they launched the big operation and they got most of them and it just fits in the context so well and the deaths are so strange but a lot of good material there maybe we'll do it again sometime and pick our top 10 of these crazy 87 different topics but this has been super enjoyable i am as captured by some of these stories as anything else and i wish we had more to go on in some cases you know i wish we had more details but that is the nature of an erasure is that there's not a lot left but thank you for your time give people your links let them know where to get the books anything you're working on next all that good stuff yeah so the best way to find me is to go onto my website because there are links there to youtube facebook and every day i put a post up that's designed to just make people question things but the website's called the tartarian empire dot co dot uk tartarian empire and there are blogs on there that people might find interesting that contain information that i can't put on social media the bottom line is you know maybe one day i'll wake up and someone will show me that everything i've ever believed now with regard to conspiracies were rabbit holes i was sent down intentionally that false i don't know but i hope that my information gives people a little bit more than they had and prompts them to go and do their own research they might come to different conclusions to me so i'm not saying i'm right i'm saying that this is what i think what do you think as always say i would rather someone prove me wrong categorically prove me wrong than i spend the rest of my life believing a lie yes i agree with that and some of it can be dark but it's okay to have a little fun with it what's the consequence of being wrong or believing something about the past that wasn't true i mean sometimes i think people really need to lighten up and of course the government came in hard with how dangerous disinformation and wrong facts can be and they've got to correct the record and their ai machines are doing that for us but it's just it's fine to believe different things and for some things to be weird and maybe wrong and maybe right obviously so this has been a lot of fun and i appreciate just the spirit in which you come to this stuff with and the subjects you've decided to tackle guy you are the man take care out there thank you greg thanks for having me on i really enjoyed talking to you and boom goes the dynamite yes people very fun interview to do i know these themes have been very trendy for a couple of years now and we're kind of on the tail end of all that but there is still lots of little details all throughout that get me even more curious reverse engineering the logistics of a reset and then finding little examples of events that support the possibility it's compelling or weather weapons used out of time like in times when you'd think they wouldn't have access to such a thing it really got me thinking about the idea and i know this is crazy but if there's something orbital from a previous round of civilization then you don't have to have the infrastructure to get something up there to use like a direct energy weapon or a weather manipulation weapon you could just hand the controls down to someone else or keep those documents deep deep deep in some secret society or you know put them in the zuckerberg bunker for when they reemerge all that kind of stuff i guess it's possible but that missouri stuff was was wild to me i think that was plus hour but you know either way making the mississippi run backwards creating waterfalls on it and it happening happened to be a main spanish settlement going from memory i think that spanish settlement yeah it's not just out of the middle of nowhere think about how much open land there is now and then go back to that time and how much more open land there is you would think natural disasters would just get peppered throughout areas where there aren't people but for something like that to hit a major settlement dicey dicey i always feel like tartaria the overall theme for some people crosses a line into ridiculousness or jumping the shark i understand why but you don't even have to think about the full end conclusion you don't have to adopt that to just be curious or engaged with many of the little points that get made throughout like why is the great wall of china facing the wrong way the conventional answer if you look it up is that this wall was not just a single wall but many different parts of many walls that were eventually strung together and they wanted to defend from the north but also wanted to be able to defend against anyone who got past the wall so there's some areas where they would shoot in you know that's why they made some architecture face inward you know with everything you look and there's going to be an official story there'll be some official answer and then it either satisfies you or it doesn't that answer does not really satisfy me in this case but everybody's going to be different to quote an apparent historian on reddit that i was reading from uh they say most of the famous restored sections often show defenses facing north but in less restored parts features seem to be facing inward ding ding ding it sounds like the more famous restored sections were altered to fit a narrative in the unrestored sections that they haven't touched tells a different story those sections do not conform with the history i don't know i find it interesting but the beauty of this realm of research for a lot of people is that eventually you find historical oddities that just aren't easy to explain away given the narrative you've known before to me there are a bunch of flaws with the narratives around balboa park in san diego for example and these buildings that were built to be destroyed for the world's fair but the people liked them enough to want to keep them and they're still there so they weren't made to be taken down but i also wonder about that moorish building here in tampa that i showed when was that built is it truly just an homage to moorish architecture or was it there already and then slightly altered slash restored to hide a different history that the moors were here and built that on the river unfortunately we only have mainly dishonest sources to get information from at this point or sources that rely on previous sources and the previous sources oftentimes are old the authors are dead you can only look at who funded it which is often like the smithsonian or the royal society and then we're right back where we started authorities creating our narratives that we can't trust that's what allows these ideas to run wild so it's their fault not ours so i don't know for me a lot of this work doesn't just condense down to a single narrative about one big erased empire it probably is more complicated than that but i'm still really into it and you look at the pagodas of japan and the steeples and all that we talk about the steeples a lot but in the east they have these pagodas that look kind of the same they were not easy to build especially at that time and i think they did cater architecture to energetic effects if we believe in a reality of something like the library of alexandria where this information was shared amongst any visitors from any culture that came well they could take the knowledge back and design things that conform to an ethereal model it's not that far-fetched to me and that doesn't even require one big empire it just requires pilgrimages to the land of esoteric knowledge and then taking that knowledge back that's reasonable i think that's pretty much conventional history when i did that armania tour with the graham hancock group still up on the youtube channel for anyone who's curious we went to a lot of monasteries that were interesting and we went to one where locals sang and chanted a traditional song and my wife and i cried and that's not normal especially for me but it worked on us and i think that was something very much energetic happening something that made me get emotional in the moment i bought the cd from the truck when uh i could but who plays cds anymore and the magic wore off it needed to be in the location and it needed to be actually i think sung to get the true vibratory frequency benefits who knows but i had a great time with this interview guy has done a great job following the trails as far as they can be followed the idea that tesla was a created character as with napoleon both interesting ideas again that's going to be something that's too far for some people but tesla in particular really should have more of a media footprint if you ask me you would think that his lab or demonstrations would have been filmed at least once napoleon sure he died in 1821 literally within 12 months of the first camera ever so they say but tesla died in 1943 my mom was alive my mom was one year old so that's suspicious to me what are you gonna do some of the stuff we added to the stack in the second hour of the plus show which was also just as jam-packed we talked about mary poppins and some of these hidden truths within mary poppins a disney movie about a chimney sweep and a witch essentially who has an umbrella there's some ethereal stuff there and of course orphans you know the whole thing is about orphans so we talked about the orphan train movement too we talked about that new madrid earthquake i mentioned in missouri and the mysteries there i definitely think there's more of that story but we talked about lighthouses and great fires that are quite mysterious and their significance we got into gangas khan khan gangas khan and uh the premise that maybe he was the son of jesus it's wild we talked about the cloning conspiracy stuff doppelgangers and historical figures and the lunacy act i was really intrigued by that in terms of adding to the stack of reverse engineering how a reset could be engineered you'd need something like the lunacy act and wouldn't you know we had it and i love the deep dive into the actual cabbage patch dolls company and the person who came up with them and that kind of stuff so i loved it guy is awesome get twice as much with thd plus sign up in these show notes now what i really want to talk about here is uh the response from the last episode with bx i can't remember an interview where more people were convinced that she was a fed and just did not like it i'm okay with that i have this rating system and traditional part of the wrap-up to force me to be held accountable and uncomfortable when it doesn't go my way and which is rare so i'm okay with the harsh criticism even when it's aimed at the guest which is usually the case but i i take it personally because i pick the guests for me to reach out to someone say hey come on my show we're gonna promote your work and then they give me two hours of their time it comes out and it does damage to their reputation or it isn't simpatico it's disappointing because that's not the thing that i said was going to happen but listen to some of these quotes from the comments i gotta read a couple of them i could only make it about 45 minutes on this one the guest really gave me the perception that she's new to all this and couldn't fit the pieces of her research together with the broader sense of how conspiracy operates it felt like listening to a 14 year old try to tell you how the world works also found it interesting that she never once mentioned the trans community and how they fit into all this i sensed an anti-male agenda in her presentation i guess that is fair but like some guys are creeps so i don't find it to be anti-men and the not mentioning the trans thing to me the trans thing is really just a side effect of the mental problems and the drugs like everyone says body dysmorphia is a mental condition ultimately and it seems very adjacent to the kinds of conditions which you end up on ssris and also autism apparently there is a very big overlap on the venn diagram between trans body dysmorphia and autism that's just what i hear don't shoot the messenger but i guess i don't find it to be suspicious that she left that out so next comment i've watched a few previous bx interviews but this one triggered some inner alarm bells for me planning to watch again just for that reason which you know has a benefit i gotta give her credit for at least being transparent about sharing info with the police and fbi to show that people can make a difference and versus feeling powerless about these crimes yet something about this interview isn't sitting right but it feels too much like i promise i'm not a fed i'm just a normal person and then so many references later to we versus i it felt a little off now that's i think that's objective reasonable argumentation for not liking the interview and sure i guess in this particular one it felt like maybe she was protesting too much about like being just a normal normal person i don't know but then this is the one where it gets pretty hard pretty hard on me bro she's an agent you're being played as soon as she said the cliche a discord radical leftist she outed herself only cops and agents use terminology like that to describe people i think this person is wrong i think this person doesn't understand that discord is a platform she didn't call them discord as a label to the individual but discord radical leftist which is a term i think is fair to use because there's a big overlap between the left leaning blue haired nerd soy boy neck beard terms you know all that kind of stuff and gaming and discord is a gaming platform so i think there's an overlap obviously discord as a platform can be for everybody but i don't find that to be unusual coming from her perspective you know again i'm not saying this this is what she said but this person goes on to say or did did you just sign up with the devil you did you soft pitched the charlie kurt question to this lady so she could spout that line about discord radical left and nothing being suspicious again with that i just asked a question and when she didn't give me an answer that i liked because she said there was nothing suspicious about the charlie kirk death i got two options i can either move on quickly to get back to the actual groups that were more unique to be talking about or i could push back and have it devolve into a debate about charlie kirk's death when she already stated she doesn't think anything was suspicious i didn't find that to be a productive use of the time so i just was like yikes i wish she would have said i saw some odd things about that but i took a chance and i'm just gonna move on that's all i can do i didn't know what she was gonna say to that but this person goes on to say i guess you had to do what's best for your family if it means going along to get along you're only human so the new change is because you signed on the dotted line for security okay now your show will continually get worse but magically thc will stay afloat got it prediction now that you're going to be joe rogan jr we'll get guests like this to sum up the politics of the day show your listeners how they should respond to messaging in the political zeitgeist well they got you see as soon as money is involved they got you all of us no hard feelings you sold out when you're a buffalo being stampeded off a cliff it's impossible to resist the herd it would be more dignified if you explained to your loyal listeners like me from when you were a five dollar a month show that yes you did sign on the dotted line for your family then do the best show joe rogan will approve of congratulations i mean you gotta allow me to screw up once in a while i'm not even saying i screwed up but from this person's perspective clearly i did but this is just one interview you know if i've been doing this as long as you say and you've been following and you've been a member since the five dollar days i mean you've been a member for many many years have i not cultivated a little more trust you know have i not banked enough good interviews to allow me to screw up once in a while in your mind the only income i have is plus member subscriptions and i've been pretty damn clear about that for a long time so i don't know as soon as money's involved well it's been fucking involved since day one it always is in our system you cannot avoid it so it is involved but i didn't sign anything i have no manager i have no agents i haven't put ads in the show but man when i think about the money i've left on the table from not doing ads now that i have kids it's over a million dollars over a million dollars at least since the show started and i don't even want to think about it it might be like more than a hundred grand a quarter and i'm happy to do that because i think the show is better for it and out of spite i don't like advertising being the vehicle for all content so i've tried to do something different but if i can't even get a little respect and credit for that nothing makes me want to say fuck it more because i can't win if i can't win then i might as well make the money so it's frustrating obviously i'm not going to let one email cause me to put ads in the show and all that but we try to keep our integrity and you know we we hope to at least be given some grace with people once in a while man then this other one says who is this anonymous person claiming to be an expert in such an odd subject matter and why would someone feel called to do this it's just weird and hard to believe one could make a living doing so well bx's documentary or series is quite good and also on her sub stack she explains how she got into it but they go on to say mainly i bring that up after she calls people who disagree idiots on twitter off the rip i was jarred at how she just discounted the o9a as a fake occult order operating for alternative purposes previously i was under the impression that they're quite real and a troubling left hand path group to that point i was super excited to hear more about it but she wrote that off with no justification obscuring things like sra well for me i wanted to hear about these groups and if she thinks that the satanic elements of them are just a larp and just like to be grandiose and kind of create world building like dark world building and there's not actually a reality to it she's free to think that i don't think that and i don't need her to agree on that point like she makes a point like that she thinks it's like a fake occult order with no real occult technical ability or prowess or whatever she stated several times that they think they're talking to a demon that's all i need to hear because i think they probably are and she doesn't have to believe that it's kind of like the anthropologist thing an anthropologist goes to study an indigenous group in africa and writes the book about how they think they're communicating with demons and they think their spirits dancing around the fire and they think this like yeah the person is being dismissive of it and calling it superstition but that doesn't mean we can't still read their work and kind of cut around their interpretation and see a reality to it we just want the information so to me i'm just used to cutting around stuff like that and not questioning it because she's not here as a theologian or to talk about dark spirituality she just wants to catch people who are doing creepy shit and manipulating kids online whatever moving on it says after rolling my eyes for two hours it was great to laugh for three minutes straight during the compilation of ridicule to wrap this all up we have an ex-bodyguard trained with firearms who works behind a computer to help incels by proactively cooperating with the feds to bring groomers working with fake satanist orders to justice at the cost of needing to hide and move around to stay safe that's the most unhinged elevator pitch ever i mean that that last part made me think again i try to be open-minded i think this person is writing this without a lot of context i had and making it seem like how did this person emerge out of nowhere you know they're clearly a plant it's like they have a long history on twitch she acknowledged that a friend of hers got her into twitch and she quickly realized that there was more money to be made on twitch than the what she was doing which was like private security that's not hard for me to believe i'm in the internet economy ecosystem it is what it is i mean in my defense i was hearing more about the 764 organization i'm a gamer at heart i totally know there are creeps out there preying on kids and getting off on trying to manipulate them some of the ways in which they're manipulating kids some of the tactics were surprising and shocking even to me manipulating people into trying to get them to kill their family dog and then escalate it or even just using epstein blackmail tactics to get compromising photos to then have people go do stuff i mean if you can turn on someone's webcam an impressionable incel to use the term like all men are not incels obviously but incels are a thing one of these guys you know if you can turn on their webcam and get a video of them jacking off or something and then send it back to them are there people who would be so embarrassed by the social consequence of that that they would take a gun to them all i think it's possible so even if they become the patsies you know my thing is just how are these people getting caught up in this thing which is probably fed operated like i don't doubt that either but we did also talk about the founder of the nexion of nine angles being joshua caleb sutter and that he was exposed in court documents as a federal informant so i don't think she was blind or as blind to this interaction that as some people are making it out to be like i mean she did disclose that so obviously there's something there how many guys did sutter influence to create violence i mean isn't that kind of what we're talking about plants tasked with spinning up impressionable youth to be patsies in these events or to act out their violent thoughts or to be blackmailed into it like that is interesting as a conspiracy show to me that's like off the radar stuff people aren't talking about that i wanted to do a show on so anyway i had watched her six-part series on rumble and i read her substack about how she got into this and so that wasn't curious or mysterious to me but her series is very good anyone who is unsure what to think i mean watch that you'll understand why i thought this was a good guest to get on the show we're always told these patsies and perpetrators who look mind-controlled were into fringe online communities well i wanted to know more about the details of those fringe online communities that are often glossed over and i think the reason they're glossed over is because they are honeypots and that they're used for this purpose it's fine it's possible that she is somehow disingenuous maybe i'm being gullible but just because i let something go doesn't mean i endorse everything a person says but man some of those comments were pretty damn harsh the score is actually not as brutal with a 4.2 4.2 is not good but we have had sub for reviews before a couple and i don't think the comments were as brutal as they were on this so either way 4.2 i guess i'll take it considering the feedback i'm reading here but if you were not into it i get it i actually expected it to be almost as well liked as andrew johnson so in terms of me being off on what what i expected i don't know a time when i was further off usually after an interview because interviews are organic i can get off and be like and didn't go as good as i expected but this one my read was very off so that's that i just had to spend a little time on such a strong negative reaction because it does seem pretty rare and we shall overcome it's all good either way let's do that meetup calendar thing okay this weekend saturday january 17th we have the meetup for singles the social gathering for unvaccinated singles in brentwood california january 18th straunt in virginia the hometown grill and buffet gotta love a good buffet january 22nd san paulo brazil i don't know how many fans we have in brazil but i'd love to know so go and uh meet each other january 30th tonaskeet washington tonaskeet at the iron grill if you know you know february 6th quartal meetup february 14th the utri inn in stoke-on-trent united kingdom love it it's a valentine's day meetup and then february 21st two-gun gold coast australia at the backbone bar okay people meeting all over this island earth under the conditions of a mutual love of thc i love it go find the others meet more like-minded locals higher side meetups.com to get more details about any event you might have heard near you or make your own free one but that is it i'm sure guy will be a little bit more appreciated i'm not too worried but that is it for me i've done my part your move cabbage patch cloners history hiders and reset wave riders your fucking move is it accidental how things end up or is life ritually planned right from the jump