Immediate Reactions to New UAP Hearings – Key Witness Statements and Revealing Footage

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So you're going to get this instant reaction, talking through what happened. You're going to get a breakdown tomorrow with myself and Dan going through the hearings with some listener thoughts, questions, and a little bit more. And then as the week goes on, further digesting of what happened. Now, these are just my instant thoughts. I've got some notes here I tried to take as I went through. Yeah, I think folks went into this hearing, largely speaking, with very low expectations, had been disappointed by the previous hearings we've had, especially the last one in November 2024. There was a sense of underwhelmment, if that's even a word, afterwards, whether that's fair or unfair, I'll leave it up to you to decide. However, I think what we've seen from the initial reaction, and I say initial because that can change as hours and days and weeks pass, this one has landed perhaps in a more positive light. And I think a lot of that is down to the fact, let me just check my microphone here, folks. I think a lot of that is down to the fact that people went in with such low expectations and the witnesses weren't big names. You can argue George Knapp is a big name, but there was a lot of dubiety around him being there. However, I think it's pleasantly surprised a lot of people. I'm pretty positive with it, and I like to think I'm fair. I'm really intrigued to hear what Dan's got to say later on it. Purposely, as usual, don't message about it. So I'm looking forward to hear what he says. And we did get some videos, and we did get a new video that's going to cause a lot of debate. Again, instant reaction, really interesting, but we'll get to that. Let me go through first what happened. So 10 a.m. in the capital today, Representative Anna Paulina Luna, she kicked things off with a statement. And part of that statement, like I say, I'm not going to go through things word for word. It was over two and a half hours, folks. So if I miss anything out, if I slightly get something wrong, forgive me. I'm going to go through it as best I can here. She called out Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, former Arrow director, as, and I'll quote this, a documented liar. That's something that later in the hearing, right towards the end, they basically say they want to subpoena Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick and question him under oath. And Kirkpatrick and Arrow get a bit of a kicking as things go along here. And mentioned multiple senior officials during her statement, an opening statement from senators to congressmen and women to officials and how much they feel the people coming forward, the whistleblowers are credible and why they should be listened to. We then have, and let me just get here, folks. I've got a list of folks who were involved in this. A Ms. Crockett, and she is a Jasmine Crockett, an oversight Democrat. She comes in with a statement, touches on NASA having not found anything. The formation of Arrow mentions that while some reports are explainable, balloons and whatnot, we need to track down each UAP. She was giving hint there that, you know, it's not good enough just to say that some things are or aren't explainable. And then we had a Ms. Titus who makes a statement praising George Knapp. I felt there was a little bit of a chemistry between Ms. Titus and George Knapp there. Gave a glowing career reference, very much there to big up George Knapp on that one. And that was the intro and we got right into things. Now, what I'll do here, folks, is early on, the witnesses read their statements. I'll see if I can include the audio in the breakdown or at the end of the breakdown, perhaps, with the statements being read out by each person. But what I'll do is just kind of break down what each statement said from each of the witnesses. So first up was Jeff, and I always say Nucitelli, but that's incorrect. It's Nucitelli. So Jeff Nucitelli, Vandenberg Air Force Base. He's a former Air Force military police officer with 16 years service. He emphasised in his statement that Americans have both the right and responsibility to know the truth about UAP. And that truth is being suppressed by classification, fear, stigma and confusion. He notes his Vandenberg Air Force Base UAP incidents that he's been interviewed about. The Red Square one really famously on this podcast and others from October 2003. Talks about a massive glowing red square hovered over the missile defence areas, drifted, vanished behind hills, and official records of the sighting are now held by Arrow and the FBI. Now, for that incident, Jeff's job was to collect evidence from those who had witnessed it, and he passed that on. He talked about rectangular craft security guards reported rapid bright objects, which ended in a panic. It's coming right at us. Now it's here, they said, only for the object to vanish minutes later, described by witnesses as bigger than a football field hovering silently. You know, that's a big statement to hear in this setting. Even if you listening or watching this have heard that from Jeff before, to hear that in this setting, you've got folks from the public and officials hearing this for the first time. And that's pretty cool. Talked about lights over the ocean and a triangular craft in 2005. He talked about his own personal encounter. He had a glowing blue-white orb that first looked like a satellite, moved with unnatural agility, appeared, vanished, reappeared 200 feet above his house, receding for over 40 seconds and blending off with the night sky. He states these are not misidentifications or rumours. All of these were real unresolved encounters above a top-tier national security installation that he's reported on. He gives some calls to action again. And just to note, folks, these statements are submitted in advance. So you could read these the day before on the oversight website. They then read them as part of their opening. He mentioned three essential reforms. Number one, fund independent UAP research. Number two, end secrecy and overclassification. Number three, protect whistleblowers. Remember, folks, this hearing's title was restoring public trust through UAP transparency and whistleblower protection. That whistleblower protection theme comes up repeatedly, as you would expect. And the final message from Jeff was these encounters challenge our fundamental assumptions about reality, consciousness and humanity's place in the cosmos. And he urges, let this be the moment when America chooses courage over fear, transparency over secrecy and progress over stagnation. Next up was Chief Alexandro Wiggins' written statement. Alexandro Wiggins appeared on the Weaponised podcast with Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp just a couple of months ago talking about an incident. Alexandro Wiggins is a U.S. Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer with 23 years of active duty service aboard the USS Jackson. Really interesting. And this is called out later on by one of the representatives. He is the first person to testify at these hearings who is still in active duty. And that's a big thing to do. It's a brave thing to do as well. So, yeah, he's got to go back to his job tomorrow, the day after. Maybe he's got some annual leave in this week. I don't know. But, yeah, he's doing this still in active duty. So, he talks about February 15th, 2023, a sighting that happened around quarter past seven Pacific time in the W291 pilot training zone off of Southern California. That area is particularly interesting and has come up time and time again, hasn't it? Talks about a tic-tac shaped object emerged from the ocean at a transmedium event. Joined by three similarly shaped craft. All four departed together near instantaneously without any sonic boom or visible propulsion and disappeared from radar immediately upon leaving. He talked about this data being collated and corroborated across multiple sensors, including radar, recorded visually via the ship's systems with embedded timestamps and precise geographic coordinates that are all in the published video frames as part of that as well. So, yeah, really, I'm not going to go through the whole thing again, word for word. They're pretty lengthy statements. He talks about that multi-sensor validation being a big thing. Historical context. He notes that such sightings in that area, including the famous tic-tac report from November 2004, is really, really key. He stressed the need for structured, stigma-free observations and reporting mechanisms. He said the event was recorded, passed up the chain of command via the standard reporting process. He later shared public details with Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp on the weaponized show to ensure accurate documenting and to encourage other similar service members to share their own experiences without fear. Do you suffer from back or neck pain? Trinity Health of New England has the latest methods and technology to help. Our team looks at many treatment options to create a plan that's right for you, from physical therapy and pain management to advanced spine surgery. Say goodbye to living with pain. Reach out to Trinity Health of New England today and get back to enjoying your daily activities. TrinityHealth of NE.org slash spine. In Trinity Health, we see all of you. Running a business is hard enough, so why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other? One for sales, another for inventory, a separate one for accounting. 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He got the time to do that. And I did enjoy that. And listen, folks, I'll be biased here. I'm a big fan and supporter of George Knapp. I know, I think that's probably quite a popular opinion. There are plenty of folks who aren't big fans of various folks. However, I think George Knapp came across incredibly well here. And if you felt underwhelmed by Michael Schellenberger and his appearance and kind of non-role in the last hearings where he presented the documentation from Immaculate Consolation and all the furore that followed. That Knapp was a big part of this hearing. And these congressmen and women wanted to hear from Knapp. They wanted his opinion. And yeah, I was I was really, really happy. So obviously, George Knapp, if you didn't know, as a reporter at KLSTV in Las Vegas, he has over four decades of service reporting on the UFO topic. When I interviewed George last time I spoke to him, we talked a little bit about his background in reporting on the mafia out in Vegas. And that is no mean feat. If you think UFOs are scary, you know, reporting on the Vegas mafia must be right up there as well with intimidation and whatnot. Knapp talks about reporting on new APs and how the FOIA document trove paper trails looking at agencies like the Air Force, the CIA, the FBI, NASA all claim nothing to worry about, nothing to see here. However, he believed looking at it, the records tell a different story and officials privately acknowledge these phenomena are real. They fly information. They are evasive and they outperform any known aircraft. And that has happened through the decades and still does to this day. He does talk about Bob Lazar. That name comes up really early on. His relationship with Senator Harry Reid. He highlights the OSAP programs. He brings in the Bigelow Aerospace, you know, data. He talks about Dr. James Lekatsky. Over a quarter of a million new AP case files being reported. In the body of what happened, Knapp names names as well, which I think will get a lot of folks talking and we will see, hopefully, a lot of follow up off the back of that too. And I'll get into that when I speak to Dan later on today that you'll hear tomorrow. And yeah, he talked a lot about Soviet era programs as well from the USSR. A follow-on project by the Soviets called Thread3, easy for me to say, which was a big data collecting operation by the USSR, perhaps the biggest ever across the world, that then had sub-programs underneath it as well. Really interesting stuff. Dylan Borland was another witness. Dylan Borland's name came up and a lot of folks last week when we saw this were a bit perplexed as to who Dylan Borland was. I managed to find at the time his details on LinkedIn and he is indeed a former U.S. Air Force geospatial intelligence specialist. He worked as a senior analyst at BAE Systems and Intrepid Solutions. He identifies as a federal whistleblower. And really interestingly, we hear from Mr. Borland that he first approached Arrow to whistleblow back in 2023, March of 2023. And he goes into detail in the hearing, which we'll get to around his issues with reporting to Arrow, what he can and can't say. And he reminded me a lot of Matthew Brown, whistleblower Matthew Brown, who was sat right behind George Knapp next to Jeremy Corbell for this hearing. Shame we couldn't hear from Matthew Brown as well. But Mr. Borland, he talks about, you know, what he can and can't say. He talks about having an encounter where he witnessed a craft around 100 foot long in 2012 at Langley Air Force Base, an equilateral triangle. Hovered silently above him around 100 feet, interfered with his telephone. And he talks really interestingly, folks, about the craft having like a like a matte black or really intense black paint job almost. I'll just say paint job. But separately, there was almost like a gold glowing aura around and going over the craft. We have heard that kind of explanation or description before. So really interesting. I think Dylan Borland is going to come across really well from this. And we do need to hear more from Dylan. And he had, for me, a genuineness to his testimony. And I really enjoyed hearing from him. And in the Discord chat that I was part of during the hearing, if you're on the Patreon, the Apple, you pay for the podcast, you get access to that. So thanks to everyone who was in there. He came across so, so well, really well. So, yeah, Dylan Borland. And then, last minute, folks, we had a surprise witness thrown in yesterday, less than 24 hours before the session. Joe Spielberger. Yeah, Spielberger, not Spielberg, no relation. He is a seasoned senior policy counsel at Project On Government Oversight, or POGO. And he was added to the roster, like I say, last night that news broke, as I record this. His presence signalling whistleblower protections and transparency are not just timely topics, but they need to be urgent priorities for the folks involved in these hearings. He is a trusted whistleblower advocate. POGO is a non-partisan watchdog, resolutely focused on exposing corruption, misuse of power and silencing truth-tellers. He's got decades of experience advocating for whistleblowers. So, a bit left field, but he might not have been the sexiest UAP whistleblower to bring in or name. A lot of folks may have wanted Matthew Brown in that seat instead for the content of what he may have said. But again, remember the title of this hearing is about whistleblower protections as well. So it was important to have someone in there who really knows what he's talking about. And he came across incredibly well. And we talked about whistleblowers being the government's first line of defence in his statement. National security whistleblowers face systematic disadvantages. He mentioned retaliation harms more than just the individuals. Spielberger talked about targeting whistleblowers not only damages individuals, but discourages others and erodes agency integrity and stalls necessary accountability. And accountability is something that seems to be missing wildly across this conversation in one of these big things from the hearing. And as part of his statement, to finish off, he said he urged Congress to reaffirm bipartisan support for whistleblowers, regardless of political wins, and to prioritise evidence over individual narratives, strengthening whistleblower protection, he argues, is fundamental to good governance and public trust. So, yeah, really interesting. Dylan Borland, at the end of his statement, got a fantastic ovation and round of applause. One of the listeners who was there, Paul, he was in attendance at the hearing. He was messaging me during the hearing, too, to say David Grush was in attendance. You catch him on camera a couple of times behind members of Congress in the stand. And Paul said that Grush was talking with members of Congress before the hearing. They were hugging him. They were listening intently. And it really makes you wonder, in this hearing, how big was David Grush's influence? He is someone that we've all pined, I think, to hear more from over the last couple of years. However, is his influence being felt in a much bigger way behind the scenes? And, yeah, so I'm wondering, folks, do you think that's been nearly 20 minutes? I wonder if at that point I'll leave it and I'll come back to the breakdown to speak with Dan. But that was the statements. And there was a video. Let me just chat on the video first. So one of the real big talking points that's going to come from this is Representative Eric Burleson introduces a video. And the video shows an MQ-9 drone. Let me just find this exactly so I get this correct. Because at this time I was bursting for the loo. However, I managed to stay for the video and whatnot and kick off. So video, video, video. I'm leaving this in, folks, because it's opinion. Yeah, so the video showed an MQ-9 drone tracking an orb. And that is their language off of the coast of Yemen. He mentions another MQ-9 drone launches a Hellfire missile from the side. You don't see that other drone. But you see the orb come in. The missile come in. I'm going to play the video in the corner here if you're on the YouTube. It seems as difficult at this moment in time to go off of. And I'm just talking about what we see. Lots of chatter online about what it may or may not be. You see what appears to be the missile. Hit the object. It knocks it. A couple of bits come off the object. And then it carries on moving. The drone filming pans out and zooms out. And you get a bigger view. And it seems to be the object carries on. It genuinely does seem that three smaller bits come off of the object. And almost go along in formation. Either as a defence or following it. It doesn't look like debris. And it seems they do seem to fly alongside it folks. And you know me with the orb thing. I'd be the first one to rip it apart. Whole load of explanations. No doubt will come out for this. But it's a really intriguing video at face value. And again this was one I saw a lot of folks worry about. Getting videos beforehand. Joe Khalil on reporter on Twitter or X broke that news last night that I saw or a couple of days ago. But we're going to get some videos. This has had a good reaction. It's certainly got people talking. Even some of the more sceptical folks in the Discord were really impressed. Really impressed with this one. So let me leave it there folks. That's the initial reaction. That's my thoughts. And over the next week or so I've got lots of guests coming on. I'd love to hear your thoughts and questions on the hearing when you've had a chance to watch. On the video when you've had a chance to watch. And from the fallout and where do we go from here. Looking forward in a couple of hours from now recording with Dan. A breakdown on the hearing. Going into some more detail. Have some back and forward. And share some opinion from you listeners as well. From the Patreon post. From the Discord chat. And yeah really looking forward to that. So thank you for listening folks to this reaction. That's what we had. A really interesting hearing. I would say it's up there. Don't think it's perhaps on the same level as the Grush hearing. But perhaps this is the second best one we've had so far. Let me know your thoughts. And I'll speak to you all very very soon. That is all for this episode. Thank you very much for tuning in. Don't forget to leave the podcast a review on your chosen platform. Apple and Spotify. They do make a huge difference to the algorithm. If you're checking the show on YouTube. Please don't forget to like. And leave a comment on here as well. 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