Isaac Weishaupt | | The Diddy Trial, Travis Scott, & The Dark Enlightenment

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And many people have grown up with dreams of living the high life as a film star in Hollywood or a famous musician, buying into the seductive allure of the artistic archetype and the fame and fortune that comes with being anointed by the industry. Because for many years, it's been presented to us as pretty much the only real way to make it as any sort of entertainer. Yet, the more we learn about that life, the less appealing it seems to be. And beneath the thin facade of material success and the fleeting rush of fame lies a darkness that few others will ever experience, where the very gatekeepers to the industry, the predatory agents and managers, entice young, naive talents to sign away their future wealth while at their most desperate and vulnerable. And the public is presented with a perpetual pipeline of sexually abused, mentally damaged, and ruthlessly controlled celebrities who live like cows attached to a never-ending milking machine by the teams around them. And when you see this darkness and its effect on those embedded in it, the seemingly wild claims that the entertainment industries in the modern era, and maybe all eras, are primarily culture, creation, operations, mind control projects, and occult indoctrination rituals, doesn't seem nearly as wild as those claims did a few years ago. And what used to seem like innocent artistic expression appears more like a vehicle for sophisticated subconscious manipulation and deep psychological programming. Well, few researchers focus on these things with the level of commitment you get from today's guest, Isaac Weishaupt. I've been a fan since I read his book, Sacrifice, Magic Behind the Mic, and did our first interview about it back in 2014. He's been on THC a total of five times previously over the years and become a digital friend I enjoy writing co-pilot with on our strange path through conspiratorial commentary. Some of his other titles include A Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory, The Illuminati, Ancient Aliens, and Pop Culture, Kubrick's Code, The Star Wars Conspiracy, Hidden Occult and Illuminati Symbolism of Aliens and the New Age, The Dark Path, Conspiracy Theories of Illuminati and Occult Symbolism in Pop Culture, The New Age Alien Agenda, and Satanic Transhumanism, Aliens, UFOs, and the Occult Use Your Illusion 1, Aliens, UFOs, and the Occult Use Your Illusion 2, UAP Disclosure, Spiritual Warfare, and Manifesting Extraterrestrials Through Entertainment. This guy knows how to load it up with the keywords. And he also has Use Your Illusion Volume 2, Symbolism in Film, Manifesting Extraterrestrials, and more. You also know him from his podcast, Occult Symbolism in Pop Culture, and Breaking Social Norms, and you can find all that and more at IlluminatiWatcher.com. Here he is, the pop culture occult commentator, satanic symbolism sleuth, and true Illuminati Watcher, the man who knows the plan, Isaac Weishaupt. Welcome back. Greg, man, thanks for having me back on and always with your glowing introductions. That's great. It's a pleasure to be back on this wonderful show. You were one of my earliest interviews back in the day. And I'm super honored to get back here and be invited back multiple times. So it's great to be back with old friends that have been around this game long enough that I trust who you are and your intentions and things. Because I can't say that for everybody in the conspiracy world. There's a lot of wacky, kind of strange, psyoppy misinformation folks out there. Yes, a lot has happened in the 15 years that we've been in the game, but it is just the old 9 to 5 for us now. And I'm psyched to be doing this again with a familiar face. So it's great to always, you know, look for a reason to have you back. And this one was the Diddy trial. I guess for me, I was looking at this stuff. It was heating up. They threw out a little red meat for us, but then it seemed like it fizzled out. And I don't know what you think about it, but it felt like maybe it was just a limited hangout show trial to some degree. But you followed it a lot more closely. What's your assessment? Was there anything really revealed that maybe someone who was watching more casually would have missed? Diddy's had a long history of allegations and sort of adjacent conspiracy topics. So when we saw this trial coming down, I think a lot of us thought, like, this is going to be a real moment of change in the world. We're going to start holding these people accountable for their crimes. It seems like he got off the hook, basically. But if you followed the transcripts, because I was reading through the court documentation every single day for I think it was maybe four or five weeks, six weeks maybe that the trial went on. It was interesting to me because it seemed on the surface there wasn't much happening here. But if you read through what was being said, who was saying it, and some of the ideas being presented, it seemed to me what we had was a bit of a revelation of the method concept going on here because a lot of the conspiracies about Diddy were more or less proven during this trial. And I think that is part of the agenda. But I ultimately think what they were trying to do is because there's a lot to go through. Maybe we should just start with my observations in the trial, I guess, if that works. Yeah, sure. Diddy is facing life in prison, right? And we all kind of thought he was going to get it. He was in the Southern District of New York, which has some kind of high 98% success rate. He was facing a sentence for racketeering, sex trafficking, those sorts of things. Tenny Garagos, he said, I think it was Tenny, she said she's Mark Garagos' daughter. Mark Garagos, the famous attorney who did the Menendez brothers, Michael Jackson, Keith Rainier from the NXIVM thing. So Tenny was defending Diddy and she says, is it a federal crime to love baby oil? And that, as funny as that is and how headline catching that is, that's kind of where they took this. And that's basically how they won. I mean, I say they won. They found him guilty of like two of the five counts and his sentencing is going to be in October. I'm guessing he's going to be out, right? Right. What was interesting leading up to all of this, the reason we thought we were going to get some serious dirt was because we had all these multiple lawsuits like Lil Rod, who was Diddy's producer for one of his recent albums. And in that lawsuit, that was the most damning of all of them. Lil Rod was saying that Diddy was basically running an Epstein operation. He literally said that in the lawsuit. You can, you know, you can download and read it. And he was implying that he would do these sex parties and he would videotape it and use it as blackmail amongst a bunch of other allegations like how one time Lil Rod said that he saw Diddy sort of cover up a shooting by sort of, I don't know if paying off the cops is the right term, but sort of like he had to end with the cops and was able to sort of quiet things down, alluding to, you know, some kind of connections that he had. And amongst other things, which we can come back to later, this idea of like Robin Greenhill and Lou Taylor and how they plug into all this, like all this stuff was listed out in the Lil Rod document. And I thought, oh, wow, we're going to court now? Like this is going to be interesting, right? Including Lil Rod accused Cuba Gooding Jr. of sexually assaulting him. Right, right. And a whole bunch of stuff, right? Like crazy stuff. And we got exactly none of any of that discussed at all in this trial. But that's not what he was on trial for was the Lil Rod thing. He was on trial for sex trafficking and racketeering, running his business as a criminal enterprise. Right. Specifically Casey or Cassie Ventura and Jane. I don't think we know who Jane is still, right? Right, right. Yeah, there was a handful of anonymous sort of Jane Doe's that were there. There were several, you know, girlfriends. There were several people that worked with him. And one thing you notice when with all, almost all the people is they would talk about how terrible Diddy was and how abusive he was. But then in the next breath, they were sending him happy birthday cards and talking about how much they loved him. And it's like a real crazy, like it just shows you the power of fame, you know, and how these people were susceptible to some level of mind control, it seems like. Yeah. One of the persons even said that he had a like an alter ego, like he would dissociate and, you know, become angry, which I don't know how literal to take that. You know, my conspiracy brain goes to sort of MKUltra type stuff. But it was said about a lot of things were said about him, including LAPD officer Israel Flores said that Diddy looked devilish. At one point in the trial, he told I've got it in my notes somewhere. He told one of the one of the people that worked with him how he was the devil. He told her that to her and there was a lot going on here. So like Cassie was the big that was the big part of the show and she was the first to take the stand and it was supposed to be this sort of, you know, bombshell part of the trial. She was pregnant and they were like, oh, we got to hurry up and get her up on the stand because she's about to deliver a baby. I think that was all timed perfectly for, you know, for maximum sympathy towards Cassie. Right. And she was talking about how her interpretation of the events was that she signed all with Diddy. She had a nine record deal, which they released, you know, one of them and never did anymore. So her job started to become a sort of sex slave and doing these freak off parties and how she, she is, she was suing Diddy because she alleges that he basically forced her or coerced her, I should say maybe, into taking like just tons of drugs, this 2C drug and ketamine and like crazy amounts of drugs, ecstasy all the time and she incurred all these sort of medical issues from these freak offs, you know, UTIs and sores in her mouth. But then the defense, they laid out their argument, which was that she was a voluntary party to this whole thing and she, you know, it's not, it's not Diddy's fault that she fell in love with him kind of thing, which is kind of weird, right? Like, it sounds like domestic abuse stuff. Well, like you said, they have these text messages and stuff they can lean on to be like where she says, oh, I can't wait to have a freak off and it's like, yeah, the allure of I have to suck up to this guy even though maybe I'm mentally breaking. My understanding is that, yeah, essentially, like you said, the defense was, look, he might be an asshole. He might have hit a chick or two. He's not on trial for that. He might have liked orgies, not a crime. Specifically, these crimes, you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and these text messages that say, oh, I can't wait to see at the next freak off party, that's reasonable doubt, you know? So, like all these situations, the offender, you know, they can claim, well, they're just trying to get my money. You know, I got hundreds of millions of dollars. Everybody's trying to get money. You liked it at first. Suddenly, you don't like it. Well, what's going on? You know? So, I get that, but what I think is so interesting is that Maureen Comey, you know, she was the federal prosecutor for both the Diddy and the Epstein cases and surprise, surprise, they both kind of went nowhere and then she got fired by the DOJ. So, I knew, I saw the headline that she got fired, but she was fired July 17th and that's two weeks after the Diddy trial ended. I don't know if there's anything significant about that. If there's some reason you think that it might have resulted in her firing. To me, that's more about the Trump stuff. Like, he's going to be going after her father for the election stuff. He's trying to distract from Epstein with the stupid election stuff. People are bored with the election interference story. Every election's interfered with so far as I'm concerned. But, yeah, that's just some of the stuff I thought was interesting and I'm curious what you think about not only the fact that they get, they always have their person in place, right? Like, okay, we're going to do a show trial. They're going to contain it to just the, you know, the parameters in which we've set. But, like, the same prosecutor for Diddy and Epstein, you gotta think that's a red flag. Right. I mean, there's, this does feel like a sort of show trial because Maureen Comey, of course, the daughter of James Comey and James Comey, when you talk about election interference back in 2016, like, a week before the election, he made this big to-do about how the FBI was investigating Hillary Clinton's email servers or whatever when that was a big issue. That was the whole reason, you know, Trump was saying lock her up is because she had this illegal email server thing, right? James Comey was the one that was like, right before the election, it's like, you know what she does and we're going to investigate her. And then later, after the election, then they were like, okay, we found nothing, she's fine. And it's like, well, that sounds like election interference to me. So, for Trump. For Trump, yeah. And September, uh, was it? Someone found a photo of James Comey on his Instagram not too long ago where he had these rocks on the beach. Have you seen this? Yeah, it said 8645. 8647. Or yeah, which is like, well, he's 45 and 47. But yeah, so it's like, basically kill 86 means to like, it's off the menu or kill it or whatever. Like, it seemed like a veiled threat. And the guys that had been head of the FBI, I think he understands coded language and reading between the lines and veiled threats. And that was, someone found out that that was the eighth, he posted it on the 8647th day after 9-11, 2001. Kind of weird stuff. But yeah, Maureen Comey, she worked the Ghislaine trial and the belief is that this firing had nothing to do with her botching Diddy's case. Some, I've read different theories that allegedly she is the one handing over all these files to the Wall Street Journal for Rupert Murdoch to run this sort of smear campaign against Trump. So, I mean, this gets into like weird 5-D chess political territories that, I mean, it kind of, and it starts to get subjective where it's like, well, what do you personally believe and who do you personally like and dislike? So, it gets really messy but it is very strange. I mean, she worked for the Southern District of New York which was the, you know, like I said, it was like, known as like the elite of prosecuting attorneys for criminal cases. Which supports my sort of idea that the trial wasn't necessarily to get Diddy to go to prison. It was more about revealing a lot of these conspiracies that we've heard over the years which is where when you talk about Trump, this goes into that Jonathan Addy guy, right? Yeah, yeah. So, John Addy was a guy who was arrested back in 2018. He was at the Trump Hotel Miami shooting at cops and when he got pulled in for questioning the video interview with him he says about how he was a sex slave for Diddy and forced to have sex with Cassie which everyone was like, well, that's insane but it kind of splashed a little bit on the tabloidy news, right? And by the way, he's still awaiting trial seven years later which is crazy but I wanted to just jump in now that you mentioned him because I looked into this guy a lot because I was just curious at the time how does this police interview leak? We never see police interviews leak and this one has like the juiciest stuff ever and it just seemed like it was set up that way but I was looking into this yesterday getting ready for this interview and News Nation actually interviewed John Addy recently from jail and he basically just said the same stuff but with a few new details. Diddy called the male stripper service that he worked for and then paid him $800 extra to take it into drug-fueled sex with Cassie while Diddy whacked off in the corner happened about 15 times one time Cassie passed out so Addy decided to secretly record the session for his own protection in case she didn't wake up he felt like his life was in jeopardy so he told Diddy about the secret recordings and settled with Diddy for $5 million News Nation found no physical proof of this but the dates do line up with Addy's purchase of a significant amount of Florida real estate in his interview with News Nation Addy said his mental health is improving and this is the quote basically the day the incident happened at Trump's Miami hotel I had taken medication I think I was bipolar but I wasn't sure and I had an episode and basically I've been taking my medication now every day and I've been stable I've had no issues in jail I have no bad incidental behavior in jail and I'm feeling ready to come out in society and be a productive member once again I think he's still got some delusions if he thinks he'll ever be free again because he's being charged with felony attempts to murder law enforcement officers armed burglary and armed grand theft there's also an episode of Jesse Webster's law and crime where he says Cassie confirmed Addy was one of the sex workers during the trial so to have this validated I mean even just tangentially it's like yeah clearly this guy's not making it up but we know a lot about MKUltra and the way they mentally fuck these people up and the damage that gets done and for him to say like the day I did this I took some medication where'd you get that medication what was the medication was it prescribed by a doctor which doctor was it your psychiatrist who else is on his client list you know all these questions that should unravel but yeah I just thought that little bit of added context was interesting because it is one of the most provocative tangents of the whole Diddy saga and it holds more weight now that you know Cassie testified on the stand that Jonathan Addy was definitely at the freak office and even filmed it okay good like that sort of confirms the story you know because why would you say that under oath but yeah when he was arrested at Trump Tower he was saying all kinds of crazy stuff about Trump and Diddy and stuff like how Diddy was gay with Rick Ross and DJ Khaled and how they do satanic rituals and even he even talked about CIA MK Ultra stuff which is interesting now that you're telling me that he's said he was on a prescription drug and he's you know sort of had mental clarity now or whatever but he and he implied Bohemian Grove stuff blood sacrifice messing with kids and all kinds of things and but it's really weird because the actual document of his arrest he says all kinds of stuff that's that's sort of contradictory he says Trump is a traitor Trump is Hitler but then during the interview he talks about how Trump used to belong to the Illuminati but now he's not and they're trying to assassinate him which was ironic because like later there was these alleged assassination attempts which I have my doubts about but you know I'm a conspiracy guy so I have doubts about everything another thing interesting Adi said was that Diddy was a member of the Boulay right the supposed African American branch of the Illuminati that that LeBron James has tattooed on his chest and I don't know like this this guy could he could just be you know having a mental break he very well could be but he during that interview at the police in 2018 he talked about Mark Garagos which you know is Tenny Garagos his father and how they drugged Michael Jackson and and basically killed him for the royalties on the records so it's just so strange I don't know how to make heads or tails of it he he doesn't seem to be a reliable sort of witness but he does sort of tell the truth with a lot of things so I'm not really sure how to what to make of all that because he he says in one breath he's a Trump supporter then the next breath he's calling him Hitler it's really it's really kind of out there but the point remains is that there's some there's some grain of truth about what Jonathan Adi said which makes you think well maybe we should listen to more about what he has to say you know and it depends how far you want to take that but one of the other things go ahead sorry I just like that the whole situation the whole dust up got people to look under the rug of all these speculations it made it seem a little more legitimized even if we don't have a conviction I guess we have a kind of a light conviction but just like why did did he have a teenage Justin Bieber over for a secret recording session and then buy him a car after why were did he and Ellen such good friends why is Ellen's TV show set Epstein's temple you know the you can really draw a circle around all these people and then there's that video we talked about last time where did he had an adopted little white girl who looked really scared and he's like hugging on her and stuff and he's like why are you adopting her to help her why don't you just like help her family it was super strange but you can you can draw a line around all these freaks yeah we didn't get any clear proof of any of the sort of more wild accusations that are going around that seem to be you know holding some weight one of the things because as you know right you talked about our our first interview we did about my hip-hop conspiracy book sacrifice magic behind the mic we got more confirmation so Jonathan Addy talked about how there's this sort of hip-hop police connection and how they use hip-hop as a way to traffic drugs for you know the intelligence agencies or whatever through private jets and this is definitely a thing right there was there was a whole movie about Barry Seal with you know Tom Cruise that whole movie was about that idea there's the Clinton scandals about this kind of thing but in the rap community lots of these rappers have private jets you know Jay-Z does juice world had when he died he had 70 pounds of marijuana on his private jet I mean that's 70 pounds of marijuana like he wasn't just smoking that that was right that was trafficking and what's interesting is that NBA young boy who's like a newer rapper the younger people love him he got arrested for trafficking cough syrup it was funny because when I did I was covering the diddy trial on my breaking social norms podcast and I talked about NBA young boy when we talked about Jonathan Addy and I said how I think NBA young boy must be a fed or an informant or something because he's got a massive rap sheet full of felonies then he gets arrested for this drug ring of basically writing phony prescriptions for cough syrup and out of all that he ends up with a little bit of probation and you know he's got years of charges of firearms drug offenses assaults robbery kidnapping attempted murder and this guy is just like basically on house arrest and I say that then the next week NBA boy NBA young boy got arrested again for gun charges again and he was in doing a prison sentence I don't know how long a year or something like that and Trump pardoned him that next week which it's like kind of which kind of confirmed my suspicions I'm like this guy's got to be a fed or an informant or something now people online claim that the reason he got a pardon was because Trump was selling a crypto coin and supposedly NBA young boy's mother bought a coin for some exorbitant amount of money and when you have the coin that gives you access to Donald Trump allegedly as they say and that's why it happened I don't I don't know I can't prove any of that but that's what they say oh that is an interesting little saga for sure you wanted to bring it back to Robin Greenhill and this Taylor fella and I wanted to let you do that so there's a lot of stuff I hope we can we can there's a Travis Scott update there's all kinds of interesting stuff but tell us a little bit more about Robin Greenhill and Taylor here yeah so so so the the the quick version so the on that little rod document he calls out Robin Greenhill which was Diddy's financial manager also Lou Taylor was the business partner at TriStar Sports so Robin Greenhill and Lou Taylor's name they come up a lot they came up a lot in the free Brittany situation because I guess that was they were the ones that coordinated the conservatorship and in fact Britney Spears even had said something on Instagram about Lou Taylor and Robin Greenhill trying to kill her now she was going to sue TriStar for it yeah the little rod called out Robin Greenhill for allegedly sending money over to these sex workers that Diddy would hire from which by the way also came from the male sex workers came from gigolos the show and showtime which I mean that's what I'm saying a lot of this stuff like there was nothing like super obvious but I think if you start unpacking little pieces of it you can see there's weird things going on like with this whole gigolos thing it's a cowboys for angels was the name of the what do you call it like a male prostitution thing and then Armani so TMZ posted about this when it dropped because I had watched the show gigolos on Showtime or yeah Showtime and Vin Armani was one of the gigolos and Vin Armani is now a I don't know I don't want to call him a conspiracy theorist but he talks a lot about conspiracy spirituality and crypto on Twitter the Holy Trinity the Holy Trinity and he was pictured on the TMZ thing so I was like wait are they saying Vin Armani was one of the dudes that was showing up to these parties I don't know but one of the gigolos Ash he he got he's doing 20 in prison for assault or murder I should say murder one of his clients there was a documentary about it but the whole gigolos thing is also kind of strange which you can't and this is where things also get weird right let's let's talk about the gigolos for a second because the one of the Jane Doe's who testified said that a guy named Don came over from from the gigolo show and I looked that up Google AI tells me that Don is the name for Garen James who's the owner and founder of gigolos I can't prove that that's just what Google AI said with no link for me to click to prove that I don't know where it came from that same Jane Doe said that the parties weren't called freak-offs for her they were called hotel nights and if you recall I believe we talked about this the last time I was on your show there was this woman named Candy Michelle Johnson yeah who wrote a book called the Adrena Chrome which and she was making wild claims about diddy back that before that like like John Addy back before anyone sort of thought it was real yeah and she had us she had us she had a bunch of books that she had written and I say books some of them were manuscripts some of them were scripts some of them were like short stories one of them was called hot nights with Cassie or hotel nights with Cassie which now that I see a testimony that says diddy also call these things hotel nights I'm like dude this this is this Candy Michelle Johnson she was for sure she claims she worked for diddy yeah she must have been working for diddy how does she know all this beforehand she also had an image on her Instagram of baby oil back before anyone talked about this so so there's something weird with that I think I lost my but we're talking about Robin Robin Greenhill right Greenhill was alleged to have been putting surveillance equipment into Brittany's phones and her houses and stuff which makes me wonder about diddy because he had all these surveillance cameras that no one really seemed to talk about during the trial and she was also part of getting the medications administered to Brittany that takes me into some of the stuff like you mentioned John Otte said he was having mental issues with with prescription drugs and stuff well Kanye West also was talking about how he was on lithium and had all these issues and then Jamie Foxx also said the same thing Jamie Foxx was the cameraman for all of diddy's parties from the 90s right so I don't know how the mechanics work I'm not in the inner circle of that but there's something strange with all of that and then Lou Taylor is she's also managing the Kardashians and Kylie Jenner and she was part of the whole stink about Kylie Jenner becoming a quote-unquote self-made billionaire which turned out to not really be true and during the trial there was an article on media takeout that said diddy also doesn't have the money that because they say diddy's like the I don't know second wealthiest guy in hip-hop he's a billionaire and they said well that's not true either so it just makes you wonder like do these people really have any money or is everything just an illusion you know right you kind of need to hold it back from them to have the leverage because I think that's the big game is that these people are leveraged by their teams you know whether it's the Harley Pasternak trainer guy or the manager or the agent or all of them working together all these people are highly controlled and compromised they like I said in the intro they really are milked like cash cows you get them young you say hey we can make you a star but you're gonna have to sign these agreements where we are gonna end up getting the best deal out of this and then we want to milk you for as much as we possibly can how many times do we see these tours and these artists are like checking out for exhaustion you think they're doing this because they want to the average person sees that and like oh I'd love to have a lifestyle like that going up on stage at the arena and you know having the crowd cheer my name not really it probably gets old very quickly and they work harder than a lot of regular nine-to-five people and it's because they're forced to because they are the cash cow for the teams and I just yeah now that we're getting more into this the stuff we know now that we might not have known when you wrote that first book it is way more about drugs and and just controlling their prescriptions and getting them on things and just why don't you go see our psychiatrist we have on staff they'll they'll hook you up you know we'll help you deal with your fatigue and your anxiety yeah it feels like it's coordinated in a way to keep people keep keep the uh the hamster on the wheel right to sort of keep making money for these people so it is kind of sad right yeah and you can't let them have all that money and they don't really have it a lot of times we just see them in music videos or we see them with the chains and this like they have access to nice things that they can wear and be presented with and nice cars on lease but do you have the cold hard cash to quit the industry that's where I think you're right like they don't have as much as they say or they would just live their life my wife was telling me she saw a video where they were saying about how it works on the inside that these celebrities artists and such they'll be wearing you know luxury branded stuff and have these chains from particular uh you know jewelry makers but all that stuff is gifted to them yeah right and and it's not money that they're getting they're just getting like these lavish things and and we see this and we think they're buying these things and that's not really the case so it does raise a lot of questions like how much money are these people actually making I don't know because a lot like everyone knows like there's a lot more going on behind the scenes of entertainment than than what we know the one interesting and kind of funny thing that I found that I wanted to bring up before we move on I know you want to move on to the other topics John Otte he claimed that Donald Trump had performance issues because he's on Propecia and what I thought was interesting because there's all these connections with Trump and Diddy right Trump was up there defending Diddy and he there's all these footage you know footage and photos of him hanging out with Diddy forever and even consider pardoning him don't ask me how that works because just a few years ago I think Diddy was endorsing Hillary Clinton or something like that but whatever during the trial there was an article in TMZ about a new lawsuit against Diddy and the woman claimed that Diddy's penis was the size and shape of a Tootsie roll right God and and I and I I can't help but see these all these like abusive men have weird like penis issues like Hitler supposedly did Harvey Weinstein did Epstein did and now Diddy yeah right all these guys have have these strange and I don't know that's which one had the egg shaped dick was that okay yeah egg shaped okay it just makes me wonder about like the psychology of these people like maybe they're they're not able to find a healthy way of channeling you know the frustrations of that issue right and and now we've all got to sit back and watch them do horrific things to people I don't know it wouldn't it be interesting I mean obviously we know there's a big network that goes back further than any one person but just the idea that all these people all this fallout is just because somebody had a dick issue and while normal people are out there just getting laid having fun in their college days these people are instead toiling away how can I make enough money that I can make good on all the stuff I missed out and no one's gonna be able to care or say anything about my weird dick right that's what that's what it seems like and and you know that's just that's just a hot take I wanted to throw in there yeah I mean it is interesting and on the subject of Trump like I definitely am not in this like tit for tat oh is it the red team or blue team they're all dirty who cares I do think it's interesting though to watch the Epstein story because it was always so lumped in with the Clintons and the Democratic establishment and now the whole focus has shifted Trump is the one client of Epstein's like it's basically just so weird I think you know the the whole thing with the modeling it does go back very far and it is a strange relationship and I'm on board with the fact that they're probably both on that plane and both guilty of some unsavory stuff when it comes to you know Clinton and Trump but I found out a little bit more about the claims of his first wife recently I just want to throw this out there I'm sure it's old news and people know but she said under oath I believe this was during maybe not under oath but during their divorce proceedings in court she said that he raped her and I knew this came up in the movie The Apprentice that they made you know a little while ago and obviously that's a huge claim and then it's like well you can't rape your wife you know people say stuff like that well the details of the story is that apparently he got I say this because you mentioned the alopecia thing or the propicia thing but he got a scalp reduction surgery to try to close the bald spot you know I know about bald issues and how it can get in your head you do some desperate things I'm sure I just wear hats you know it's a lot easier but he did a scalp reduction surgery to try to close the bald spot and it was a doctor that she recommended and apparently it was very very painful so he comes home and he's in all this pain and he's like you stupid bitch you're the one who told me to go to this guy and he's and so then it escalated into a rape scenario and he pulled out a clump of her hair and was like do you like that because that's how that's how I feel right now and I was like wow that is insanely brutal and then apparently she fell down the stairs and died and no one really knows what happened and she's buried on his golf course yeah I was gonna ask is this the one that's buried on the golf course yeah oh my gosh I never heard that before yeah it makes you wonder if like all this psychosis is just ego issues you know and that would make sense because these people that are this drawn to to power and and wealth it's I feel like there's like some demons in there right yeah it's either the dick or the hairline maybe both luckily only got one problem but let's let's move on to the the update on Travis Scott because this leads us into a whole rabbit hole that I was so interested in because it's basically like a pizza gate kind of a loop but nobody talks about it everybody knows pizza gate this is like almost the same thing involving strange art involving a woman who's basically like an Abramovich clone like an archetype of the old witchy lady who's involved in art and anyway so this was basically two interviews ago we did in 2021 when Travis Scott had the astroworld ritual thing and the the whole stampeding of the crowd and since then there's been a Netflix documentary on the situation and my understanding there is that based on what I saw you cover your analysis is that it seems like they're trying to peg it all on live nation and do a little damage control for him but there's a lot more to this this thing and his Apple contract and talk talk to us a little bit about the Travis Scott updates the astroworld updates so so Travis Scott is he's a guy I've been covering for since I don't know when he when he first came out he's a fine enough rapper like I like his music well enough I'm not like a huge fan I'm also not like one of these guys who thinks he's overrated I think he's pretty good I actually like his music but he's always had strange you know some people would call it artistic stuff in his videos I would call it a cult stuff like like the one he's doing the grand hailing sign of distress a Freemasonry while he's wearing a shirt with an inverted pentagram that's on fire there's a lot of like alchemy symbolism that he puts in his videos with the the black bird and all kinds of crazy stuff so when he was doing the Super Bowl I was like oh this is going to be good right and then 2021 of course we have the concert which was just I mean just a field day for me with the satanic symbolism as we as we talked about I should also mention Lou Taylor manages Travis Scott too by the way of course of course so there there was a Netflix documentary that came out recently and there were some interesting things that I found on there where the photographer for Live Nation they told her they wanted her to go do photography at the Astroworld concert right and they said they wanted photos showing how crazy the fans were and and she wanted they wanted photos of the fans rushing the gates and all this stuff because they wanted to sort of you know promote things the concerts and such it was interesting because the the that's exactly what happened in Astroworld they charged the gates and broke them down and that's one of the claims about why this thing went wrong is because there was too many people there and anyway they broke down the gates and like they were letting people in and didn't have tickets apparently and it's almost like what if that was programmed what if that was done on purpose to kind of like the Beatles right there's this Beatles propaganda of them coming to America and these these girls screaming at the airport and screaming at the Ed Sullivan show when the conspiracy is that the the manager for the Beatles was hiring hiring these girls to scream and act like they knew who the Beatles were kind of like the idea of buying a you know Russian but bought farm for social media now that's kind of our equivalent today yeah to drive likes and comments and stuff that aren't real but that but that's what made me think of it and I and it just goes points to another idea of like and the entertainment industry having some kind of some kind of manipulation involved some kind of deception on some level and his concerts over the years he's he's incited a lot of sort of violent behaviors as we I think we talked about last time but during the I didn't realize this but during the Astral concert of 21 his first song that he came out to was escape plan and because they played a clip in it then it dawned on me and hit me the lyrics it it talks about opening up the gates at the very beginning of the song and that's what the whole ritual of the the stage was it was like this this portal opening up through the energies of the crowd and the portal is to to hell and and that's supported by a variety of symbolism and the most damning is the freaking shirt Travis Scott war showed a guy in blue like a stick figure in blue going through a portal and coming out red with horns right and then people point to like the dove on fire coming out of this this mountain that was on the stage people say there was all this crazy frequency music happening that was making people feel uneasy before the show because because there was two stages and Travis Scott his performance at the mountain was the only performance to happen at that stage so as the documentary points out all the other acts were done at this other stage and then when they were like okay it's time for Travis Scott everybody had to migrate over to this new stage with the mountain and that's where the as they they indicate the documentary that's where the problems started is because people too many people funneled into one side of the the stage but anyways it made me think of was like okay so they couldn't they had to sort of consecrate this mountain stage and it could only be used for Travis Scott like a ritual that this is the had its sole purpose like it just seems kind of weird to me also the people that chose the left-hand path the left hand of the stage were the ones that that died by the way yeah I thought was weird when it comes to like left-hand path occultism and things like this but what what happened in 2023 prior to this documentary what happened in 2023 is that there was all these lawsuits against Travis Scott and he was cleared of wrongdoing and there was a police report released that showed he had a contractual agreement with Apple that he had to finish that show to get his four and a half million dollar purse his spokesperson claimed he did not have the authority to stop the concert even if he wanted to I don't know if I believe that I mean you saw people literally screaming like hey people are dying here and you saw the he literally stopped the show at one point because there was a ambulance coming to like help somebody out so I mean I don't know I don't know the legalities of it but that's what they claim is they oh he's innocent because he couldn't have done anything anyway but what it was curious is that this the Houston Police Department report that finally dropped in 2023 dropped the same exact day that he dropped his utopia album which I don't know what the angle is there I just think it's really weird dominating the news cycle probably yeah it could be that right it could be like that day you search for Travis Scott and it's like Travis Scott's got a new album right don't look at the police right it's hard to know what to believe but he was supposed to he was supposed to do an album launch at the Pyramid of Giza that same day but the people over there called him a Satanist and they canceled it live nation dude does damage control and they're like no no they didn't cancel it because he's a Satanist it was it was canceled because they had problems with the construction that was a live nation said but then if that was true you think well okay well maybe they're going to make up and do the concert later at the pyramids and all they didn't instead he went and did a concert in Rome but the another curious thing that I found when I was sort of catching up on all the the updates to this Travis Scott thing Kanye West who I mean we could do hours on Kanye West right he's almost too much I can't even follow him anymore it's just so much going on with the guy he because he also showed up at the Diddy trial he also called Diddy a fed but then was there supporting Diddy it's so bizarre and another thing that was weird to go back to Diddy is that there was a language that that Diddy used that mirrored what Kanye West said on there's like a famous sort of Kanye West clip from TMZ just a few years ago where he talked about how his his mother died for this shit and he's like yeah Michael Jordan's father like people come up missing in Hollywood isn't that kind of weird yeah and almost that exact same language was used by Diddy one of the Jane Doe's who testified said that he said the same threatened her with the same language of like people come up missing around here and I just thought that was kind of strange because there's all these parallels and then to bring it over back to Travis Scott Kanye West of course the guy who put Travis Scott on the map he signed Travis Scott and there was a Donda listening party in I don't remember what year just recent just a couple years ago and on the artwork for the Donda party it showed a dove which was supposed to you know symbolize his mother who died Donda and he had a Donda Academy that I think has since shut down and they had a team on there called the Donda Doves but anyway my point was is that Travis Scott showed us the dove coming out of that cave whilst on fire to start this you know horrific satanic ritual or so I claim to be satanic ritual because it just seems like that it seems like and then you know we don't have time today of course but I'm doing it I'm working a deep dive into Saturn death cults and the history of Saturn worship and how it really does have a basis in human sacrifice like that's not it's not conjecture it's not satanic panic like it's a real thing and so when you look at all these events that we say oh it's a blood sacrifice event like if it is then we found the religion that they're doing this for it's it's it's a Saturn black cube religion heck yeah heck yeah man you hit pretty much all the things that were in my notes that were interesting yes he came out to the song escape plan and this whole thing happened because people couldn't escape because there was no plan for the scenario and it's just like wow and yeah people who died are the ones who took the left hand path towards the stage and also I heard you say this Travis Scott before the event years ago I guess was in a music video wearing a Pearl Jam shirt from their album Dark Matter and they did a concert for Dark Matter that had a trampling event a Dark Matter indeed and I just thought the wordplay again with the title is fun but also the fact that Travis Scott clearly like gets hard over trampling events because he why are you wearing you don't seem like a Pearl Jam fan but you seem like you're wearing it because specifically this is associated with a trampling event yeah Dark Guy so let's jump over to the other reason Travis Scott popped up in the news and that's this weird photo shoot with Michelle Lamy Lamy Lamy I'm gonna put the photo up so for you know for people who haven't seen this photo yet and are watching but not really you know watching some people look away when the podcasts are happening but look at the screen because the picture is going up it's this weird photo shoot they did where it looks like it's a post coitus photo shoot with Travis Scott and this 81 year old witch this lady I guess she's a fashion icon who paints her fingers black and like I said a Marina Abramovic kind of archetype well this story goes pretty deep she as I looked up you know she goes to a lot of Balenciaga events again red flag you know the fashion industry it's all connected well talk to us about this chick and this weird photo shoot and why why this is a dust up and where do you think these roads lead Michelle Lamy she's interesting looking for sure but she's got an interesting story too and she's partners with Rick Owens who's the guy who's another fashion sort of icon he did some converse photo shoots where with a bunch of inverted pentagrams a few years ago but the Travis Scott connection comes through because Travis Scott says that he was backstage with Michelle Lamy and Rick Owens and the backstage area was sort of designed by so so Rick Owens and Michelle Lamy own a business together of doing a variety of things including like designing furniture designing art that sort of thing Travis Scott apparently had them design his sort of backstage I don't know set I don't know what you would call it his room is set up he invited a photographer named Nick Knight to do a photo shoot with Michelle Lamy and Travis Scott back there and the like you said the photos are I mean they to me they heavily imply that Travis Scott and Michelle Lamy had sex like they're kind of like laying in a like you said a post-coital caress of sorts but if what you also see in the images is you see a ton of orbs right and this is you know referring to like the ghost hunting phenomenon of taking a photo and you see orbs that are some believe they're spirits some believe they're just energy I've taken photos I used to do ghost hunting back in the day and I've seen these as well these orbs it's kind of weird stuff in fact I saw we went to uh this is back in like 99 we went to a high school that was supposedly haunted and we were in the auditorium and there was a camera a camcorder on a tripod and they said look at the and and it was kind of a new technology back then to have the camcorder with a little flip up screen that you could observe what was being recorded and they were like check out the screen and just sit there and watch it and you'll see orbs float by and I I've seen them with my naked eye on the on the screen you know so so there's something to that right yeah and so the people involved here are interesting Nick Knight he's a very famous photographer he's also a music video director he did work with Kanye West and Lady Gaga and and Travis Scott so he he did the photo shoot Michelle Lammy she was um she's in her 80s right and she's been in the fashion industry her whole life basically but she also was a lawyer at a certain point and she stuttered she studied I read through this interview whether that's how I know this stuff she studied a philosopher named Gilles Deleuze which I'm probably butchering his name but the reason that stood stood out to me is because I've been researching the dark enlightenment for a period of time now and Gilles Deleuze comes up in the philosophies of the dark enlightenment and uh Nick Land and the ideas of virtual reality and all these things which we can you know unpack that later the interview I read from Lampoon magazine she talks about Deleuze and she talks about how she took his college course on Alice in Wonderland and the mirror is what she said which already is like okay that's you know we're getting into occulted territory because that's a heavily occulted story that Alice traveling under underground to have her enlightenment process happen and in an interview she compares Travis Scott to Marina Abramovich which as you rightfully so points out plugs us into a whole host of conspiracies like Pizzagate uh because she had you know Marina Abramovich another one of these sort of occult artists that had the spirit cooking events with Lady Gaga and um she she actually was teaching Lady Gaga the Abramovich method of sort of stripping down her ego uh for you know her art or whatever but she anyways Michelle Lammy compares Travis Scott to Marina Abramovich in that interview specifically but Gilles Deleuze he had written books like I said he inspired a lot of this dark enlightenment stuff which when you unpack the dark enlightenment one of the major philosophies you'll find is accelerationism and it's the belief that we need to accelerate this uh technology and and hyper capitalism because the way they view the world now through people like Peter Thiel and you and you can hear this with Peter Thiel's interview with uh Ross Dothat on at the New York Times Peter Thiel is he's like angry he's angry that technology hasn't fulfilled his science fiction fantasies he's angry that we're not already living in a digital matrix right and he's probably seen too many movies he probably thought like all of us we'd be in flying cars like Back to the Future showed us by now which we're not so these accelerationists they believe that the reason we haven't had these things is because we put legislation up to sort of slow things down to be careful with AI and that sort of thing and they say no we need to just including and this goes into like political ideas and um like they hate social any kind of socialism thing because they they're very heavy like social Darwinians and they're like look we can't slow down progress to take care of poor people and people with handicaps and these sorts of things they we need to just sort of plow over them they're going to get left behind we need to just keep it moving like that's what accelerationism is and anyway Jill Deluge wrote books that in the 1970s that were sort of the seeds of this weird accelerationism theory and in one of the books he talks about how he views the world as everything is just machines including the human body we're just machines for organs and that capitalism and systems like capitalism are inevitable inevitably going to tear down all systems and structures and identities and he he wants they the people that are into the stuff they want to like I said go into sort of a hyper capitalist space and sort of break down the material world break down the physical body and what all this means to me when I hear all this because because Jill Deluge was also talking about virtue virtuality is what he called it it's about living in this virtual reality space it's like we're talking about digital matrix stuff we're talking about uploading our consciousness through sort of neural link chips into the internet and Deluge he influenced you know Michelle Lammy uh Genesis P. Elridge was was interested in Deluge Brian Eno and all these people but like any of these sort of fringy philosophers he uh committed suicide you know so I mean like is this someone we want to listen to I don't know right seems kind of weird but yeah so Michelle Lammy she the fact she's hanging out with Travis Scott and comparing him to uh Marina Abramovich is is kind of priceless to be honest yeah that is really kind of insane she's the one who looks more like the archetype but to say that it's like well clearly there is a cult stuff going on and they're winking and nodding publicly and okay so this is where I hope uh we can stick the landing with the first hour here because I want to get at least a little bit into some of the really wild stuff I I have planned here but you got this uh Deluge character who seeds this philosophy the dark enlightenment we're calling it basically technocracy and transhumanism sort of stuff he inspires Curtis Yarvin and Nick Land now J.D. Vance apparently loves Yarvin and that would make sense because he's the uh little puppet boy of Peter Thiel Nick Land this is wild so it's a to quote your sub stack on this dark enlightenment series you say first off Nick Land titled his book the dark enlightenment that's where we're getting the term it's not just to be provocative but he's also he's credited as the godfather of accelerationism which takes us back to the 1990s you say where he was a British philosopher who taught at Warwick University he also participated in a group called the cybernetic culture research unit the CCRU and they were wild they were exploring demonology numerology and esoteric ideas such as hyperstition Nick believed there exists a positive feedback loop with culture that reinforces its own magnetic chain symbols are transmitted to everyone in society via the internet and cause changes in reality the example you put in parentheses is Pepe the frog Nick saw capitalism as a force that is very sensitive to this idea because confidence creates the reality and sells the product in an interview with Nick Land from 2009 he said that the thing that is hidden from us the occult is an alien order of time which shows up as synchronicities he also describes hyperstitionality as something that condenses our reality but comes from H.P. Lovecraft's old ones much like we see in John Carpenter's Mouth of Madness film in a three-hour interview on Scott Mannion's metal lore in September 2023 Nick Land describes the CCRU's engagement with magic and entities from the outside he also confirms that the Kabbalistic numerological expression of CCRU was equivalent to the number 666 Nick Land's work inspired artists Jake and Dinos Chapman who were also members of the CCRU they've continued that CCRU perspective by continuously exploring accelerationism and having collaborations with Nick Land they also collaborated with Balenciaga which takes us into much darker territory you say and there's another photo I will have them add to the screen and post from this piece that is very dark they're sitting in chairs there's a weird demon in the corner with four heads and there's blood everywhere you are connecting some wild dots I don't hear about the CCRU and these people we get glimpses the Balenciaga dust-up happened and all this but you are really going a level deeper talk to us about some of the stuff I just laid out how Balenciaga is involved and what what they're really what their role is to play in all this because it just seems like a weird fashion company but obviously it's more than that yeah so this is one of those one of those moments for me over this uh my you know last 15 years of doing this sort of research where pieces started falling together and I thought man this is too weird and it's it's it goes into what's the dark enlightenment and I've done man I don't know six or seven episodes since February I believe on my podcast about it I've done several sort of shorter reads on my sub stack about the same content basically and I'm writing a book about it which I don't know when I'll get it done it'll probably spring 26 but it's fascinating it's it's it's where everything connects together when you get into the world of conspiracies and the occult now it's sort of bled into our politics uh right which isn't my forte politics is not my forte because I think it's it's a very futile effort to sort of debate opinions on some on some level amen but that's where the territory takes us today and and and I guess we could start by talking about what the dark enlightenment is because it's it's basically the inversion of the enlightenment it's an inversion of the constitution of America and it like I like I said this is influenced by philosophies that have been guided by demonic forces you know and I don't say that in some kind of crazy Christian warrior satanic panic concept it's it's uh yeah so so you have to understand the philosophies here and the dark enlightenment it wants to pursue a new world order a new government and it wants to get rid of American democracy it wants to get rid of these ideas of equality and taking care of our neighbors and all these things and sort of have a really cold non-empathetic view of the world it's sort of like uh you know because Peter Thiel was a libertarian for a period of time and this is kind of I think what you would what you would get if you got into sort of a satanic libertarianism in a way right I think it's um it's about literally tearing down everything we know of with American democracy and replacing it with this authoritarianism this uh corporation they want to make it into a corporation because you know in his school of thought it's like businesses and the free market are the best way of going about everything you know and there's elements of that that are true right uh we live in a capitalist society and it's pretty good I enjoy air conditioning and water in my drinks you know it's pretty nice but they what they want to do is they think that they can run the country with a ceo king that's not elected right not a a ceo king that's uh got a that will have a group of techno elites that manage network states they call this a variety of terms and they they'll call them freedom cities they'll call them um I can't think of the other names for it but the the all these ideas go back to the occult concepts laid out by manly p hall and francis bacon in their books uh the secret destiny of america and the new atlantis it's the same concept it's a idea about a society that's perfected because they put scientists and technocrats in charge yes and not to cut you off so of course this is like techno transhumanism I mean the centralized control grid stuff that everybody talks about this is the philosophical groundwork for this but I just heard you use that term freedom city and you have another sub stack post about what's going on in washington dc you said will washington dc be the home for the first dark enlightenment freedom city for peter thiel and you talk about the big balls event as a james shelby downard ask public psychodrama to justify the federalization of the police force and that could be a giant op to usher in a test city for this larger project I just wanted to throw that in because I thought it was topical and uh it makes sense to me yeah and that whole thing with the uh the bit you'd have to read my uh sub stack with the uh this dude big balls who worked for doge which was tasked to uh you know reduce the spending in government which you know okay like that's fine we spend a lot of money we have a deficit we should like address that right yeah um but he he was assigned as part of doge to sort of like you know reduce the government and all this stuff and the irony of it all is that this guy who's very young I don't know how old he is now 1920 he's a young guy he did this work to like reduce you know fire government workers and reduce the size of government cancel a bunch of contracts and then he within two months he leaves doge and now he's a a federal worker working for the government making 170k a year like that's insane of it yeah I mean the hypocrisy is just off the charts so my my point is I think that he was I think because the supposed event that happened was and the timeline how this worked was strange in March Trump signs this executive order talking about how oh we need to you know bring crime down in in the capital of Washington DC okay sounds good then we get this event where supposedly big balls at three in the morning was at his car in this neighborhood and if you if you google the coordinates of the neighborhood because I'm not from DC I don't know anything about it but when you look at the neighborhood like it looks beautiful I'm like that looks like that looks like the uh most beautiful uh you know hipster part of Salt Lake City like it looks very safe but whatever they say that he was at this this area and at three in the morning these these hoodlums come up to him and they they want to steal his car so he throws his girlfriend in the car and then confronts the guys and gets beat up and he's all bloody there's like this photo of him showing him like all beat up and the cops just happen to be patrolling right then and there and they break it up and I'm like okay it's three in the morning and you're telling me like there's a cop there's multiple cops like patrolling just down the street they just happen to be there at the same time sounds like you got this under control like that's a pretty good response time to me yeah and and I just don't believe it there's people that are claiming that big balls was actually soliciting a prostitute I don't know any that's true that's what they're claiming but hey my point is I think it's all staged it's problem reaction solution you know David I taught me this many moons ago uh it's it's whether it was staged or not or partially staged whatever they're using it now to be like oh my god look there's it's rampant with crime which maybe it is I don't know I don't live there the the statistics in the from the own police department say that violent crime is down so take from that where you will so I thought it was a good point that tied into recent events that kind of goes from the dark enlightenment and spills out into real world applications of the philosophy that have now been justified in uh our current timeline but I don't want to leave the free listeners hanging when it comes to that stuff I read about the CCRU and Balenciaga maybe more the CCRU because it seems like these people were involved in a cybernetic culture research unit and doing all kinds of demonology type stuff and this has been my thing and I know you also recently interviewed Jacques Vallée I want to ask you a little bit about that eventually I've always found it curious that Jacques Vallée is this leading leading thinker in ufology and then also involved in the the foundation of cybernetics and I don't know if he's exactly tied to the CCRU but he definitely is uh one of these core people at the beginning of the infancy of the internet and now we have this age where people are saying I think AI might be just uh demons I think it might be a a vessel for consciousness that comes from the other side so very interesting but yeah try to give the free people at least a little taste of the the activities of the CCRU and how this piece ties in so the the guy wrote the book on the dark alignment Nick Land who used these accelerationist philosophies he was part of the CCRU at uh Warwick University in England it was a collective right and it was actually started by a woman named Sadie Plant uh who used it as a cyber feminist research group but she was I guess kind of like not super into it Nick Land was so he kind of joined the group and started taking over and doing experiments and their experiments were in doing various writings and experimentations in fact I've got the book over here somewhere um it's it's fascinating I'm only a little chunk into the book but I've already got just tons of content that I'm going to put into my book that I'm going to write about the dark enlightenment are you referring to his book the dark enlightenment there's a book called The Collective Writings of the CCRU okay cool it it's a published uh collection of the variety of essays and stuff that they were writing and a lot of them were just like experiments or like fictional writings they were really into a variety of subjects cyberpunk horror H.P. Lovecraft esotericism Carl Jung William S. Burroughs Kabbalah numerology and demonology so those are all of the occult things that we talk about all the time and they were really into a thing called hyperstition and that's uh again this idea of like synchronicities manifesting new realities and he they called it they call it a positive feedback circuit meaning they thought they could sort of create reality on some levels uh it's it's a mixture of superstition and uh like hyper reality it's it's I don't know it's it's it's like a mixture of propaganda magic predictive programming symbolism synchronicities and so on like I said it's kind of like the ideas of Pepe the Frog right because Pepe the Frog was this strange moment in time where people on 4chan were fueling up this this sigil this meme and they believe that they were able to get Donald Trump elected because Donald Trump I don't know if you remember back in 2016 they thought there was zero chance this guy was getting in I mean it was as good as in the bag he wasn't going to get in and you know it happened and it was shocking uh and and that's one of the ideas that supports this kind of concept now Nick Land during the CCRU says that they were actually doing magic they weren't talking about it they weren't researching it they were doing it and they were engaging with these forces these entities and he sums them up as a collective called the outside right which is of course a reference to the adversary or uh Lucifer right Satan but he said that the outside were these entities that could condense into our realities through hyperstition right you could fuel enough intention belief energy into these sigils or entities and they could manifest into our world and he specifically called them the old ones from H.P. Lovecraft which is your Cthulhu type entities not to like go into this deep rabbit hole which ties us into Kenneth Grant because that was Kenneth Grant's whole thing was making contact with these Lovecraftian entities there's a weird connection there of how the entities from the outside they they move in a different dimension they're not from this space-time and that's what if you look at the cover of the CCRU collective writings they've got this thing called a numerogram and that's kind of their visual depiction of what these entities are trying to sort of explain to mankind as um their system of time and space and I know it gets really weird I'm trying to understand it as well and and just like you said the the real tell was when Nick Land was at that interview and he said that in Kabbalah numerology the CCRU is equated to 666 which is the mark of the beast right so there's there's a lot of there's a lot of weird things with how the occult and magic and manifestation have worked their way into our politics and our government and it's part of the UFO phenomenon and that's why I wrote those two books about you know aliens UFOs and the occult use your illusion one and two because that's what this is all about and that's exactly what I how I interpret when I interviewed Dr. Jacques Vallée he basically said like yeah that's right that's how this works people got to understand that well that's good way to stick the landing for the free people then we'll get into some of the deeper details I'm going to throw the cover of the book up on the screen because yeah it is kind of a sigil-esque this is just so wild I've just never heard of this group everyone wants to go reference Jack Parsons and the Babylon working and we got this happen in the 90s like it's much fresher so I appreciate this this uh really is always a pleasure I love you in a completely hetero Christian brotherhood kind of way same brother same uh but I I you know a lot of things we'll have to talk again there's more on the on the plate here we didn't get to we got a new Jordan Peele movie that looks like it's going to get into the occult initiation of the celebrity culture we got a new Spielberg UFO film we got we're gonna be busy guys in the next 12 months but you've really been crushing it lately very prolific always doing stuff let people know what they should check out you got the sub stack the YouTube channel the podcasts hit them yeah the the reliable is the podcast occult symbolism and pop culture all the other things are you know I'm at the whims of whoever wants to cancel me and torch my accounts so you know by all means follow them uh you know Instagram has been pretty good to me at Isaac Weishaupt so you can follow me there and then uh yeah the podcast is occult symbolism and pop culture you can find it on everything I've got a Patreon when you're ready to you know break free of the pesky ads that I make my free feed losers suffer through so be sure to check that out when when the time is ready and you've you've you're ready to commit because I've got just hundreds of bonus episodes now I do bonus episodes for the Patreon and uh there's a 55 episode Twin Peaks deep dive that's more Twin Peaks occult symbolism than anyone could handle and in fact I'm writing the book about it right now so and then I'm going to write the Dark Enlightenment book probably early next year so yeah oh and then all my books are on Amazon narrated on Audible under Isaac Weishaupt so pick your pick your favorite sort of method of taking in my nonsense and uh go for it thanks thanks again Greg you're the man dude I appreciate you ah you are the man thank you for remembering us little people on your meteoric rise through the ranks of conspiracy commentators keep up the great work and take care thanks Dark Enlightenment be damned another new term for transhumanistic technocracy as if we didn't have enough but hey if they self-identify as the Dark Enlightenment who am I to question it especially these days but you know it is always great to get an update from Isaac he's one of the OGs that I've really stayed in touch with and talked shop with off the air and he's just a good guy I like Jay Dyer too he's more of the academic flavor but he's also more rigid in his Christianity I don't mean for that to be an insult at all Jay is also very funny and appreciates good humor I'm only saying they really are the two main figures in that pop culture slash occult analysis wheelhouse Jay is also more on the movie side and Isaac is more on the music I don't know why I'm going down this road of comparing them so aggressively I like both Isaac and I have a good rapport and it's good to talk to him every so often that's it and the catalyst for this was the Diddy trial and that is why I reached out and I wanted to wrap a bow around that because we did talk about it the last time he was here because it was just starting and we were like wow I can't believe this is really happening and we always want these things to be bigger than they are and we want more to be revealed but there is often a bit more in the details for those who actually do pay close attention and I know Isaac is that guy so figured it was worth talking about because this is the best we get when it comes to exposing these networks for my money I think the biggest thing in this episode is the very pizza gate adjacent network of freaks that we talked about we got into it a bit in the free show but this is a great example of why I'm sometimes really happy that we do have the free plus split because we went deeper into some of this so-called art that these Chapman freaks are auctioning off for six figures little toddler statues with a dick nose and an asshole mouth really twisted shit and it is episodes like this one where I feel a little bit bad and somewhat awkward subjecting the poor guys in the studio editing booth to this stuff because usually they're just trying to edit some promo video for a real estate agent and then they got me on the schedule every so often throwing out stuff like this but I did send them the images and asked them to put these statues on the screen at that part of the conversation because I don't want it to be hypothetical I want everyone to see exactly what we're talking about and this part of the conversation did come up organically right at the one hour mark which is great because I do think these images would probably get this episode taken off YouTube and get me another strike I'm not trying to be dramatic we also know that conversations about vaccines are more likely to be censored than the bizarre Elsa gate adjacent cartoons that they have on there but I don't think anyone would blame me for being a bit nervous to have that stuff in the free show but anyway if you're a free listener and you're curious you only have to google Chapman brothers fuck face one word and you'll see what I'm talking about and looking at it again if someone pays a hundred grand for this stuff they probably do put their dick in that hole right I would say that these people who purchase this should be investigated but I know the argument yeah bizarre taste in art is no crime some of the nicest people I know love gory slasher aesthetics for some reason definitely not my thing but when you get this weird torture porn art of children and it's circling around the elite class and sold at these auctions for insane prices I think we know what's going on even if there's nothing we can do about it at least acknowledging it and being like hey there is kind of a line right I mean something's wrong with the psychology of a person who would make that stuff and then support art for those kind of insane prices but you know whatever very interesting rabbit hole so yeah the first hour set the stage and the second hour dove us right off of it the CCRU stuff was really interesting too probably need to go further on that Balenciaga and the Chapman brothers lots of wild stuff in that second hour me and Isaac have been doing this a while we know how to bring the heat sign up for plus if you want to hear more ad free and action-packed help me help you and get twice as much show for as low as eight bucks a month links right in the show notes tokenized podcast link for your app so you don't even need the username and password stuff anymore it's basically magic the higher side chats.com okay and let me also say this after I recorded this episode I got curious about some things we talked about and I did some follow-up research and guys I went too far this happens every couple of years I went too far I did not realize that there are telegram channels that are very raw probably way closer to dark web content than anything else that's easily accessible and I wanted to see more about that artist who made the image on Jay-Z and Ellen's hoodies that we talked about the castaway Wilson imagery which I really do think is a method of flaunting this stuff because Tom Hanks is a freak too is that a Spielberg movie I'd have to look that up but what I saw claimed to be the source image for this stuff it's basically a screen capture or it seems like a frame of a video that is allegedly out there where a little girl's face is cut off and worn by allegedly supposedly according to the internet Hillary and Huma and I don't know I don't think this shit has only happened once anyway so I don't know if that exact video has been kind of twisted around for political purposes but what I saw looked like a photograph of a skinless face of a little girl and the eye is there just the same composition as that sketch on the hoodies and it really disturbed me and it's been a few days now but god it burned itself into my head and I could not get into a good mood for a couple days I wish I had not seen it it took a chunk of my soul or something it's one thing to talk about this stuff but when you see it and realize you can't do anything about it and these people are completely untouchable it's just tough you don't want to see that oh I didn't even want to tell my wife because I don't want her to even think about that but what can we do really but hug our own kids and try to be our best selves and appreciate life I don't even really want to talk about it anymore but I thought it was important to say because I don't know when else I would say it but just be careful how far you go hmm I'll move on but the story with this video is that it was on the wiener laptop and that when cops saw this and investigators saw this they were so deeply disturbed that a lot of them quit their jobs and they say some committed suicide I don't know about that part seems convenient for those out there who want fewer people to have seen the evidence convenient suicides you know a theme lately on the higher side chats but definitely I understand quitting your job or being asked to be reassigned to even traffic patrol or something because you can't be looking at this all the time okay moving on so the last show was with Janice McAfee THC's first in-studio guest I am really glad it worked out and it ended up being content that was personal and fresh and that made it more interesting to be in person I think and I do feel for her loss I appreciate her thick skin and willingness to talk about all the theories and speculation it's also a show the only one I can remember that cut off in the middle of my damn wrap-up it is always something right so this happened on the export the guys at the studio said there was a power outage overnight and they exported the show you know these things they take forever so you you set it and you go out at 5 p.m you come back the next day and it's exported and I guess uh it didn't go all the way through and no one caught it until I saw someone bring it up in the comments so you didn't really miss much it was just like 12 more minutes of me rambling on but of course there had to be a caveat with that show right I was so excited to get it out of course something goes wrong and I couldn't really fix it on the video it wasn't worth it to me to re-upload it to YouTube once there's already a thing happening and then I had bad video compression issues here at home is a 16 gigabyte file and that's too big for the plus streaming platform so I basically just fixed the free and plus audio shows and I'm just saying let's move on from that you know a little annoying but hey if you really want to hear that last 12 minutes it's there in audio form as for the rating though I'm glad it was well liked it's sitting at a 4.8 right now and that's about as high as it can go so I'm just glad it was well received pretty interesting especially the plus show where she looked right at the camera and made her plea to the code breakers to keep combing over the whack token and John's Twitter feed from that time that's good content I probably should clip that but she really did sell it and she was great and I don't want to badger you about plus but hey if you like what I'm doing you're missing half the show without plus and half's kind of a lot I am happy to say I only get paid directly from people who buy the ticket and take the ride and enjoy what we're doing here and if you respect that then you know buy the ticket and take the ride all right so we have come to the meetup calendar let's see what's going on Wednesday September 10th Dayton Ohio at the Canal Street Arcade and Deli September 14th Austin Texas Sourduck Market September 15th Auckland New Zealand at Gail Brath's Ale House September 21st we have one at Neff Brewing in Tulsa Oklahoma and September 28th Portland Oregon at the Bunk Bar okay okay so I know I bitched about wanting to see more events we do have a couple more events and there'd probably be even a few more but I found out we also had a glitch on the website with the captcha thing it was keeping people from posting and man I hate captchas but I guess it's something we can't remove or everyone would remove it so that is the next thing on the list got to fix the captcha for the meetup website if you tried to make an event and had a problem with it try again in like a week or so and we should be back in business all right well that is the show big thanks to Isaac show him some love if you like his work and dedication to this really dark stuff that he does spend a lot of time trying to suss out and package for people so they have a better understanding of how the world really works and uh yeah it's tough work to do so give him an attaboy thank you for listening take care of you and yours I've done my part your move pedo art peddlers entertainment industry traffickers and frazzled drip freaks your fucking there's darkness everywhere right on up to the edge of the light a cold and persistent force it is lord knows not hard to find we get dropped in this place where the dice decide to land it's a goddamn freaking miracle if we get a decent hand sometimes when we pretend we're stuck being home if you're born on the you're still here I thought we were done well there you have it another great entry into the deep and robust thc archive that goes back over 15 years at this point peruse it all at the higher side chats dot com and take advantage and now that that interview is over and we're winding down I can talk to you a bit more casually about what it is we do here because again you just heard or watched the first hour of a two-hour interview on a show that has gone to great lengths to stay outside of the ad sponsor monetization model and instead opted to maintain true independence through subscriptions only over time I've done a lot to improve the plus member experience and tried to keep convenience and quality of life in mind which many paid offerings sadly do not do but let's talk about some of the details that tend to be on people's mind when they consider making the leap so if you are someone who just listens to the audio as the show has been for many years we have the same 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