Matt Roeske | Electroculture, Copper, Etheric Energy, & Old World Secrets

Here we go, Higher Side Chatters, doing what we do from the Sunshine State. I'm Greg Carlwood, and while we are dropped into this timeline without any context and learned to find our way, what if, perhaps, a wedge was driven right through reality before we got here that took an abundant, life-nurturing, altruistic paradigm of curiosity, exploration, and symbiosis with nature, and twisted it into a simulated system of scarcity, pollution, and crude solutions cultivated by an oil-only oligarchy in the robber baron class? Might we have spent years in a co-opted education system built on propaganda propping up the privileged positions of the billionaire cabal, only to look back at glimpses of a much different reality and wonder, might there not only be a better way, but maybe there was a better world, and if we reconstruct the fractured pieces of the paradise lost, might we be able to even rebuild it? Well, as over-the-top and overly romanticized as that sounds, when you dig into the work of many inventors, geniuses, and bright minds buried under the big machine, you find that it often granted one a mysterious or unexpected death to be working on abundant and holistic solutions to life's problems? And if we could resurrect even a fraction of these suppressed processes and unknown energy systems, the change would be quite radical. And if anyone inspires these hopes and dreams more than today's guest, Matt Roski, I have yet to find them. He's the man behind Cultivate Elevate, which he founded to bring back the information that has been suppressed and caused our society to become sicker and weaker. And his mission is to educate and empower individuals to rise above the state of fear, because there are always solutions. You know, I couldn't agree more, so let's do the damn thing, the suppressed solutions restorer, electroculture educator, and ether advocate. Matt, welcome to the higher side. Hello, hello, and thank you for having me on. Yeah, man, this worked out pretty perfect for me, because I had scheduled and rescheduled an interview with a big name in the European electroculture scene maybe four or five times, and then I just gave up, because it's hard to clear the space and have a person not show up over and over. So I went looking for others who knew about this kind of obscure area of research, and luckily I found you, because not only do you know a ton about electroculture, you're also very interested in old world technology and many of the sorts of things that go over very well around here, so I am psyched. But let's start with electroculture, which might be defined as harnessing atmospheric energy or electricity to care for and fertilize the crops, plants, and gardens. I've seen it work. It's pretty paradigm shifting. But I understand you learned about this from studying Victor Schauberger, who I usually associate with structured water, vortexing and that sort of thing, but this seems to be a whole other dimension to his work. Is that right? Yes. And Victor Schauberger had some tremendous work with copper. You know, this is where I got into all of his work. He was working with copper, understanding copper and brass. He actually made a brass plow, which would basically simulate a vortex, and it would cut through the earth using vortexes instead of going the straight lines. Because he said that when you're running iron throughout the soil the entire time, not only are you heating it up, which is drying out the soil, but you're decreasing the magnetism as it runs through and making it harder to work with clumpier. And then over time, you can't work with the soil. But he noticed that if you use vortices and you move by vortexes through the soil and mimic a fish or a torpedo, it would cut right through. And it would also help spin the soil at the same time because he noticed everything in nature has a spin. Tornadoes, hurricanes, vortexes, everything has a spin. So he was big into copper. He was also the first person who came up with the first flying saucer, which I think he doesn't get any credit for. No, I thought that was T-Towns and Brown, but that's amazing. Victor Schauberger, you know, he created a flying saucer that used vortexes. And it was interesting. He was shipped over to America. They took his technology. He said, why are we here? They said, well, we're not going to use this technology. And then they shipped him back. And then he passed away right after that. But shortly after that, a couple of years later, Roswell happens. And all of a sudden, flying saucers started bearing in this whole thing. But onto the electroculture, as we can go on that parallel as well too, but onto the electroculture, you know, he understood that when people were using copper in their soil, it would start increasing their yields. And he noticed that when people worked with iron, it would diminish their yields. So he proposed at the time to the Bulgarian government that if they used copper tools in their soil, they'll increase their yields by up to 40 to 50%. And it was remarkable. So I sat there and thought, wait a minute, we don't use copper or anything. We have iron. Every time you go to the artware store, everything is iron. And what he started to notice was the yields went crazy. So he proposed this to the government and they actually shot it down because they were getting a kickback from the fertilizer company. So then I started to realize, okay, so 1940s, 1950s, you had an abundance of food. Then we go back to 1929 and you go to the Great Depression, which was orchestrated by bankers. But at that time too, they said abundance is a burden. This is what we were told. Abundance is a burden and we need price fluctuations and commodities. So then we go back even farther and as we dabble more back into Justin Cristo's work in electroculture as well. And then we go back to 1835 and we see the Royal Agriculture Society in New South Wales using electroculture and tapping in and writing essays about this. So what happened was, was the more I would dig farther back in time, I would see the same technology just kind of like rebranded. And it was used to heal people. It was used to increase yields. It was used to increase the energy of a area. You don't think of all the spires and antennas that were on top of all these old world buildings. That's all capturing this beautiful energy that's all around us. And we've just been kind tricked. And Victor Schauberger's work is just phenomenal for people to look into about structuring water, even the electroculture, and anything related to the ether, which was removed off the periodic table in 1908. There was a Russian fellow who was a Russian scientist who understood that there was the ether and he actually put it on the periodic table. And in 1908, they actually took it off. And he presented all of this. So then Einstein came in, who was actually a USPS worker, which I think is funny, but a USPS worker and came up with his formulas and everything. And he debunked the ether, even though he would learn about the ether from Victor Schauberger, Nikola Tesla, Nathan B. Stubblefield, all these people who are practicing and understanding the ether, they still debunked it. And that's why we're in the situation now where if you talk about this topic known as the ether, it's considered woo-woo, pseudoscience, or quackery. Because those are terms that the Rockefellers created so that they could make us stay away from understanding this energy. And as I've been digging deeper in the last month, I've been learning about cold electricity. And this is a really interesting one. This is another form. So you have hot Rockefeller electricity, which messes with our plants and messes with our old terrain. But then you have cold electricity, which is not harmful and actually heals. And electroculture is actually tapping into cold electricity. And this is what Nikola Tesla proposed. He proposed showing everybody cold electricity. He could send energy to different places and it was cold. It didn't have to have wires. And all of a sudden, 1920s, 1930s, he was defunded. Because at the time when JP Morgan and all of them were funding all of this, basically that type of electricity can have a meter on it. So in a rabbit hole, that's kind of how I see electroculture. And it's a little tangent off of Victor Schauberger. But a lot of things all connect the dots to parts in which we were never taught about. And as I would connect the dots, I would see this kind of makes perfect sense. You're tapping into something in which we weren't taught about. And when people are trying to look at these free energy patents and all these things, a lot of the information is missing. So it's very hard to see something or find something if half the side of the story is completely missing. Yeah, dude. I can tell our audience is already really jazzed up. This is going to be a lot of fun. That's a great introduction to this field of study. When I was preparing for this show that never happened, I was looking into like old references of this. The oldest I could find was 1749 by Abby Nolet. And then apparently one of the first writings about it referenced the Temple of Jerusalem having lightning rods around it. And later writings mention a early Pope who used those lightning rods in an agricultural field more than 3000 years ago. And then the Pope after that prohibited it because it was pagan and not Catholic. And then another Pope said, you can do it, but you got to use the Catholic prayers. Who knows? It's all crazy. But it does seem like the early 1900s to about 1940 is a giant operation in removing all the old world and ether abundant technologies. I love that abundance burden phrase. I'm definitely going to put that in the title, but man, it just seems like the world was almost magic before this couple of decades. And that's what I started to realize with this whole electricity system that we currently have. You know, Nick with Tesla, when he was messing around with the cold electricity, it would actually melt all of these wires. So this infrastructure that we have was actually very primitive, kind of like garbage actually. And he was saying that it doesn't make any sense to run wires all over the place when you can just send energy all over. And so if you think of electroculture too, you're tapping into this. And like you said, during the 1900s to the 1930s to the 40s, a lot of this information was all lost. You know, these wars were orchestrated to remove buildings, which still had this technology. And there was a fellow named Nathan B. Stubbenfield, and he actually started experimenting with earth batteries and he started putting them into the earth. And he noticed that they would get stronger and stronger over time. And then they would discharge kind of like static electricity, which as we know, static, you know, they don't teach us much about it, but a lot of these free energy patents that I was looking into, they all use static energy. And if you think of the earth, it's always discharging. There's lightning that's always being discharge or thunder, which is always a discharge. So there's all this discharge happening. And with these earth batteries, he was tapping in. He was also the first person, which is even grazier, to create the first wireless radio. He took a copper rod and would stick it into the earth and be able to talk on the telephone with his friends and family through the earth. And he said, there's no point of using radio or being on air and having signals running through the air because you have to use so much power. Things start burning out. It's very inefficient. So he said, why don't we use the earth? And so he actually created the first earth telephone and you could communicate through the earth and you just plug it in. You just literally take the copper rod, stick it into the earth and you'd call your friends. And then he started experimenting with calling his friends on cars, on boats. And it makes you really start to understand what we've lost. And the more I would go back into the past, I would see all this remarkable technology with radium, cold electricity, these ancient fireplaces, you know, all these things we're told to stay away from and we're told to stay away from them because they give us independence. That's what I've started to realize with all of this. Yeah. You're mentioning several things I wanted to ask you more about. And that's what I love about listening to you is I hear these little anecdotes and kind of throw away lines. And I'm like, wow, that's pretty amazing. Like I didn't know ether was removed from the periodic table. And you mentioned those copper tools having a 40 to 50% increase in yield. And I don't know if you said this, but you said it previously that with the iron tools, it's twice as hard to work the soil itself. Like, you know, I'm a pretty thin guy who doesn't do a lot of physical activity. I'm a work smarter, not harder kind of person. So if you're telling me that moving all this dirt around on the land out here is twice as hard with the iron tools, I must get some copper tools for myself. But when you start going down the rabbit hole of electroculture products, it can be a lot because you just start thinking, well, if I want better results, I should go bigger. And there's always someone willing to sell you a big thousand dollar antenna or something. But I decided to try the cheapest thing first, a wooden dowel about a foot long with a small copper wire wrapped around it. There's a thousand Etsy stores that sell these things. And we had some plants in the yard. We've been here in Florida for only about a year and we had our second kid. So we did not have much time to do the maintenance on getting this food forest going that we wanted to. Let's say we planted five blueberry bushes and a couple of weeks later, it looks like two of them are almost dead. We're like, man, got to get out there and water. Just don't have the time. I put these rods next to the plants that were almost dead. And now they're twice as big as the other plants. And this is multiple different types of plants around the yard. It has blown my mind. It's blown my wife's mind for sure. And it completely validated this electroculture thing. And I've been talking to guests about ether for many years. And it's always this vague, amorphous, mysterious, provocative thing, orgone energy. And it's like, well, I wish we could tap into it. And it's right freaking here. Like it takes nothing to tap into it and to validate this. Anyone who has a windowsill, plant two plants and put a rod of copper, a $5 thing in it and watch. It pulls energy from the air and it makes the plant grow better. It's pretty wild. But I guess I would just ask when you look at the range of products, I've obviously just only gotten started. Do you think there's ways to amplify that even more? It's like a lot of things you stack benefits. What do you think are the best things out there that utilize this technology that anyone can access? So I've been researching this a lot. You know, you can mess around with your antennas. And like you said, they work anywhere. And the most mind-blowing thing that happened to me was I had people putting them inside the home. You know, so they're not grounded. They're not actually connected to the ground. They're just in a potted plant and their plants were going nuts. So then I thought it doesn't even have to be in the earth. So then this is like a whole nother tangent of something else because the ether, like you said, is everywhere. This energy is all around us. But back onto the topic of antennas, you can mess around a lot with this. You can do different types of coils. There's even different wiring you could use, silver and tin. That's actually what Tesla and Ed Gray used on their inventions. Silver and tin is a different composition because it's very, very highly conductive. So you can look into that. You could do different stuff with quartz and different stones and adding different stones. Because if you think of the stone that you add to the top of the antenna, that will reflect a color and a fractal back at the plants. And then as you wrap that stone with copper and you squeeze it, you also create a piezoelectric effect. So you get that piezoelectric energy. So you could put a nice big slab of quartz on top of your antenna and then wrap it. As it squeezes, it'll create a charge. And for people to look into that, look into Marcel Vogel. He's got so much information on crystals and stones and all of the work that he did. I mean, all technology comes from crystals. So that's another one. You can also look into different types of glass. And I've been experimenting with different colored glass. So you can use blue glass. You can use green glass. You can use red glass. But think of the color spectrums that you're getting. And a lot of the green glass, this is where we go down another rabbit hole, the green glass is connected to radium. And during the 1929 Great Depression, they had all this radium, which is interesting. It was just so abundant, but they were actually infusing it into glass. And if you think of radium, it's an ionizing radiation, which is the same radiation as the sun. And you could drink from it too. I've done many videos talking about drinking out of radium glasses all the time. But you can actually put that glass on top of the antenna. And then now you have the color spectrum from the glass, or you have whatever is imprinted into the glass. So you've got manganese glass, you've got uranium glass, you've got cobalt glass, which is funny because cobalt, we know that's all for the electric vehicles and things like that. But you have all these different glasswares from Bohemia and all the different glass places. And you can use those too. You can also add basalt to your soil. That's another great one too. It's volcanic ash. It helps to increase the energy of the soil because it's gone through an alchemy process. And that's kind of what we're tapping into. We're tapping into alchemy. We're tapping into ether. We're tapping into everything people used to do. And it's interesting because about 1920s, 1930s, you could take an alchemy class in school. And then after the Rockefellers kind of took over the whole educational system with Frederick T. Gates, alchemy slowly faded. Because if you could understand how to transmute things, you can also make things like gold and silver and all these things. You don't got to mine them, but that's another topic. But you can use all these different things to help increase your yields. And the other biggest one, which we could just throw in there, and I think that this would personally help. I have not tested it yet. But if someone could do, for example, copper ball on top, or even an iron ball that's coated in copper, and you put mercury inside of that, as the vibration of the earth happens, or the vibration that happens all the time that lightning, you would get an electrical charge. And I've tested this. I've taken mercury. I've spun it in a circle in front of different volt meters, and it just goes through the roof. You get a volt increase the entire time. So I think that's why also we've been told to kind of stay away from mercury. But I think with antennas as well, you could be using all these different elements that we have, and you're kind of just tapping into all the free energy topics without using the Rockefeller system. Because I realized they also own the agriculture system. So like you were saying with the iron, when you're trying to run all this iron through, you have to work harder, which means what? You got to burn more gas, which means there's more profits. You get all these systems to adapter to an adapter to an adapter, and you can't figure out why your soil is not doing well. But it's just, we start tearing things back on the onion, and we start going, hmm, I can kind of mess around and see what happens. And the coolest part of all of these was, I keep seeing your cat in the video, but when people were placing the antennas all over, and I have every animal known to man by me, but when you put the antennas, all the animals are sitting by them. They just sit right next to it all the time. So, you know, animals can pick up on this energy, and they just start coming around, and I've seen them just sit right on the antenna. So they know of the energy, we just can't see it, because we only have a visible spectrum that only allows, you know, certain frequencies, unless it's been altered a little bit by other substances. Yeah, yeah, that's a great point, too. I've noticed on the trail cam I got to try to keep an eye on the fruit-producing plants, that a lot of animals are attracted to the yard, and I just thought it was the fruit, and it might be, but this is also where those rods are planted, too. So you never know. But man, so many thoughts. So basalt, that was something I was going to ask you about, because I'm hearing about people putting this paramagnetic basalt in the soil, and obviously it's going to increase the electrical conductivity. But I read that in Ireland, you will find a lot of these random silo-like towers, these towers that look like they should be attached to an old castle, but they're just kind of out there in the woods, and turns out they're made of basalt. And they had this energy function, even to the point, so they say, that you could put a moat of water around the base, and it will just suck up the water and fill a basin that you place at the top of the tower. So like natural filtered plumbing that just comes through the structure itself. That's not something I'm ever going to be able to test, but it struck me as super interesting. And then radium, we have a repeat guest analog who comes here. His main bag is to go through old newspaper archives and dig out stories of giant skeletons they find in the earth and underground chambers in early America. And then he made this whole radium thing like his third rail. And yeah, it's wild. He's shown me these postcards where it would be a guy sitting in a chair in front of his fireplace. And there's just like a lump of green glowing radium in the fireplace, not a fire. So this isn't something lit on fire. This is a rock. It looks like a rock and it sits in the fireplace. You don't have to light anything on fire. And this is the weird thing. So they'll tell us that this stuff will kill us. Radium. You mentioned mercury. People have talked to me about borax. I had a previous guest talk about turpentine as a parasite cleanse, even though it says in the bottle, do not ingest, you'll die. And you're drinking out of copper. I actually had a five gallon ramekin, you know, that you put the five gallon water jugs on top of. And I bought a copper one because I thought I would try it out, but it did start to turn green. And then I started to wonder, uh, maybe it's not pure copper or maybe it's like rusting or I just don't know enough about copper to be fucking around. And you know, the mercury thing. Now I know they're lying to us. I know they will tell us that things are harmful when they're really not. But by that logic, we should be sleeping on asbestos beds, right? I mean, some shit really is harmful. So it's hard to sort out the truth from the fiction, but I would like you to tell us a little more about what you know about radium. Cause I know there'll be comments. We'll have you read about the radium girls working on these watches and they all got sick. Yeah. Some things are harmful to breathe in, but are not harmful to handle. Like there's all kinds of ways that thing can get into your body, but talk to us about radium and, and maybe why we shouldn't be so scared of mercury. Okay. So the first one you were saying, just so we had done that, that's the work of Philip Callahan and that's the paramagnetic Celtic towers. So people just are aware of this. They can go look that up, but it's interesting. He said that monks used to go to the top of those towers and they would be able to communicate amongst each other during a full moon. Oh, so you already know. You already know. It's pretty awesome. In the volcanic basalt, it's going through an alchemy process and has so many minerals and is highly energetic. It's volcanic ash. You know, it's very healing. And that's why people eat clays. It's volcanic ash. It's the same exact thing. You know, you go up to Wyoming, there's tons of clay all over there. But anyway, so that's one for people to look into. Philip Callahan has so much work on this. He even has about how these buildings used to be antennas. They replicate like insect antennas and they look exactly like insect antennas. And he said, the cathedrals always replicate an insect antenna. You see the same spires. If you zoom in on an insect's antenna, you would see the same thing as a spire. And he's like, somebody understood nature very well. And the most interesting thing too, is he always talked about the alignment of religious buildings are always faced to the East. And that's because of the energy and how the strongest energy is to the West. And he showed all of this with little dolmens and all these structures and all of these things. And dolmens are another one. You have compression of basalt on there, you know, creating orbs of plasma and people photograph all that stuff. So Philip Callahan has some great work on that. And that could be another topic. But when we go back into radium, you know, it's interesting because the radium girls is the story that everybody knows. You know, they were licking paint brushes with radium, which we all know who creates paint, DuPont and all the chemical companies and things like that. So if you lick paint for 10 hours a day, you're going to get sick. It's just like if I started to try to eat the paint off the walls. So you're going to get ill, but they end the radium on the sickness rather than the paint. And it's interesting because one of the radium girls lasted to 107. So if the radium was as toxic as is told, why did she live to 107? Now there has been studies too on radium where they took insects and they exposed them to radium. And they noticed that they lived three times longer than the ones not exposed to radium. So then I started thinking of like almost like the fountain of youth. And then you think about all these radium water bottles that used to be around too. And they were like, don't drink from them. Stay away. It's always the same thing. And I usually buy it and drink it. You tell me to stay away, I'm going to see what it is. But anyway, so the radium thing, they tell you to stay awake. But what was weird was I started going down and archivists with an analog is awesome. He's a great soul. Yeah. Okay, cool. So much information. We connected because of radium. Actually, I was like, dude, you do great work. So I started going down some more rabbit bowls and finding the New York botanical gardens using radium to increase their yields. Of plant growth. And I started thinking, okay. And they started showing these massive plants, like all these pictures of massive plants. And I thought, hmm, sequoia trees, maybe there's some sort of connection. Now, most of the radium found in America was actually found in Colorado. It's under the rock called carnitite. And that's actually where they would farm it. And it's interesting because Colorado has the largest resource of radium in the world. And we buy it from other people, which is funny. We're like, we got to buy it from somewhere else, but it's actually still here. So when I went down this whole rabbit bowl of radium, none of this stuff made any sense. And then I started finding all these glasses, which are made out of uranium and radium and cobalt and all these things. And I started thinking, why is everybody drinking out of these things? Why are people eating out of these things? Why do they have bowls made out of radium? If it's as toxic as we're told, why is somebody eating their soup out of a radium bowl? Like that doesn't even make any sense. The person would be gone after they ate the soup. You know what I mean? It doesn't even make any sense. So when I started going down this, I started noticing that when you got into cold electricity, which is what we started this podcast with, a lot of the cold heat can come from radium. And if you think of all these fireplaces, if you had radium, you could have heat or cold heat or energy the entire time. One piece of radium is equivalent to 3,500 tons of coal. So you sit there and go, think of that energy. And what was wild was Mary Curry was the founder of radium. She was actually paid by the Rockefellers and her discoveries of radium showed them something that competes with their system, which kind of blew my mind too. She was the counter towards their system. So they actually started using her technology for other purposes, like cooking people in the medical system and that whole thing, but started to cook people and use it the opposite way. But she actually passed away in a car accident when she started discovering all these radioactive different materials, such as radium, strontium, thorium. She started finding all these things, but her work, if you think about it, her name is Mary Curry or Mercury. You know, that's kind of how I see it. But you see the same symbols and Mercury is the messenger. He's the one who is trade and barter and the merchant and the planet Mercury. So you see all these things and start going, wait a minute. Okay. Maybe this is why we're told to stay away. Maybe there's something much more to all of this. And it's been the radium girls. Cause anytime I would post a video on this, people will come at me about the radium girls. And I'm like, dude, I'm drinking out of a cup that's got the radium and I'm perfectly fine. I got tons of energy, but that's the thing I started to realize is we get brainwashed with one story. That story is repeated over and over and over again until it's ingrained into your mind. And then you're fearful and you don't want to try it. But I realized we've got to step outside the box. Now, if we turn to the other one known as Mercury, because now we're going on that one, which we wanted to talk about. So there's red mercury, which they were using in World War II, which is actually very challenging for people to get. Red mercury, if you put it in front of a mirror, will actually not show its reflection, which I think is really interesting. So what state is it in? And this kind of goes into Ormus and monatomics and all these things that are woo-woo, that don't exist, but are beer and everything else. So you have the red mercury and they were saying that they were using red mercury for a fuel source that would burn forever. So that I think is an interesting one with mercury or red mercury. Then you have traditional mercury, which was used for all the mercury arc lamps and all the machines that ran with mercury and all the original electric vehicles of the 1800s ran with mercury. So if you tell people to kind of stay away, they can't tap back into the original patents. They have to go with this new Tesla stuff, which has got kill switches and all kinds of weird stuff. But anyways, on the mercury topic, you know, they tell us to stay away, but I've seen videos. There's been many where people, and they're just playing with it all the time. One guy I've even seen who drinks it, which is, you know, people go, oh my gosh. But they said that in the Vedic tradition, they actually used mercury to heal people, which I thought was interesting. And they would swim in mercury pools. And the other part of mercury that I thought was fascinating was that the pyramids, a lot of them, have pools of mercury underneath them. And like I was saying, if you take mercury and you spin it, if you just take a little vial of mercury and you spin it just like this, just in a circle, it will start to show the voltage that is being created. The volt meter will start just going up and up and up and up and up. So if you think about pyramids and connections to energy and the ether and all the stuff that, like I said, we are not taught about, then you think of these pyramids having these big gigantic pools of mercury underneath them. If they were able to spin during mercury retrograde, which is where it's spinning backwards, they say, if that could happen, you could have a lot of voltage being created by a power plant known as a pyramid. So there's all these different things that I kind of started putting together and going, I was never taught any of this. I was just told to stay away from mercury. I know they put mercury in the back scenes. It didn't make a lot of sense. But when I started connecting it and then I got a little vial and I started messing around and seeing things, I go, oh, this is why this makes perfect sense. Because there's no money if people can create their own energy sources or create their own energy devices. Same with the radium. You don't have to pay a bill anymore. And that's what I started to realize. All of these things relate either to farming, food, water, or energy. And those are the three which are monopolized by the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds. Yeah, man, you're speaking my language. And obviously your brain's firing in all cylinders. Like we're having three parallel conversations at once. I've got five pages of notes and I was preparing for this all morning. So I have an excuse, but clearly something you're doing is working because a lot of people can't talk about things this way. But let's get into the old architecture, the domes, the spires, all that sort of stuff. Because I've listened to plenty of material that tries to make this case that pre-Robber Baron era, a lot of this was known and in practice, but they never really bring it forward and say, well, the atmospheric energy is still there. They kind of present it as this dead thing like, oh, gee, I wish we could get it again. But like you're saying, the environment is abundant. So it takes a giant operation to suppress it all because it's right there. And if you're doing personal experimentation, I guess I could say I did at least one personal experiment to show that there's something to this stuff. But I want to get into the architecture. When I hear you talk about this, it is really mind-blowing. Obviously this is an audio only podcast, but there's plenty of imagery out there. These domes apparently were copper. I even thought about maybe we should put copper gutters on our house instead of aluminum. I don't know, but talk to us about the old world architecture and maybe ways we could bring it forward and use this in our own homes. So this goes into the topic of lightning rods. And this is an interesting one because when you talk about lightning rods, people tell me that they're to protect themselves from lightning. And so that lightning doesn't strike. But when you see these old world buildings, they have thousands of lightning rods on top. So the whole narrative of protecting themselves doesn't make a lot of sense. Now I found an old website from about the 1970s where they talked about weather vanes and lightning rods. And they said that what the lightning rods were actually doing was releasing the static charge off of the house or off of the building so that the lightning would not strike because the house is not coated in static. And I thought, that's interesting because all the materials they sell you to build the house are all plastic, which gathers static. So they sell you something which actually is going to get hit by lightning intentionally. But what didn't make sense is I started looking into Herman Clausen's different patents and things like that. And he started to show that the higher up you go, the more atmospheric energy you could generate. And when you look at these old world buildings, like the things that you're talking about in these old world structures, they got antennas that are super high up. So if they were fearful of the lightning, so to say, then their antennas wouldn't be going higher and higher and higher up into the sky. Now, what's interesting about the whole thing with the atmospheric antennas and these patents is Herman Clausen showed that if you sent up tin balloons up into the sky, you could pull voltage. So then we got to start thinking, okay, if we look at this building, like one big battery, based on sound, based on light, based on frequency, based on the materials in which it's using, it could then capture the energy that's all around it. And like you said, what's the most common thing you see upon these buildings is copper. And copper is very conductive. And now most of it's green because it actually has patina, but all of it is copper. Now, if we take it one step further, there was a giant eagle that was placed on top of a church in the 1970s in Illinois. And this eagle was absolutely massive and it sat on a gold orb. And then you start to sit there and think, I have never seen a church that has a gold eagle with an orb on it sitting out in the open. Now, this eagle was shipped to the Smithsonian because we all know how that works. It always goes over there and it just vanishes. But this eagle was 10 people wide and about a person tall. So you're looking at at least six feet tall and at least 50 to 60 feet wide on top of a church. So then you've got to sit there and think, okay, well, what was that connected to? And you start to think about all of these cathedrals and buildings. Everything's been rearranged, you know, like the pews that people sit in and it's all been like changed the opposite direction. You know, there used to be pipe organs inside of them, which the pipe organs would emit the frequency, you know, and then if you have frequency, you have energy, you know, all of these things have been broken down and pretty much restructured and then sold as something else. And then you have water underneath too. Water, Tesla showed, can create energy. He had the big Niagara Falls thing showing how much energy is coming from the Niagara Falls, enough to power just about everything. So if you think about it, you have this building that is a combination of granite, pink stone, all these quartz crystals, all these stained glass windows, which are all different fractals and frequencies, which change the body. When a person walks in, the water of the body begins to change to exactly whatever the cathedral stained glass windows are. So that's a mind blowing one that I learned. But with that, you see this full energy device. And then you think of these bells, because this is like the one that topped it all off. And I think that people should really think about this. All the bells vanished after World War II. You know, you see all these bells just disappearing and you sit there and wonder, well, why did the bells go away? Well, tuning forks, when you hit two tuning forks together, they sync up. So now if we had, let's say, 50 cathedrals and they all had the same materials and the same frequency, and you ring these bells all at the same time, you would sink the entire city at the same time, which could turn into energy for the people as well, either healing or to turn things on. Because if everything was tapped into frequency, radium, mercury, copper, you know, all the quartz crystals, things like that, you could make it a whole city, which was a star fort. You know, when you get into all of those, everything is a fractal, everything is geometry, everything would tap in. And as those bells could ring, you could turn it on like a battery. And when you think of the antennas on top, they're almost working like an earth battery. So you have all these parts and pieces, which are tapped in. And I do have a theory now about some of these, that they used to be a different material. After maybe some event occurred, it turned it to stone. So like if you go to Germany, a lot of the old cathedrals are all just pure stone. It makes me wonder, because if you look at places like Jordan, you have buildings which have now turned to stone as well too. So then it makes me wonder, was there some sort of event which changed these buildings and changed it from one material to another? And we just see the last pieces, such as the copper, which stayed, or the gold or the silver or brass or things like that. You know, and it's just something to think about because we have a lot of petrified things that are around. That's for sure. It's interesting because if you look back in about the 1900s and 1800s, you have a lot of changes which take place. And a lot of these changes take place to these specific buildings. So there's something that connects back to the energy and also the healing frequencies that come with all of this. Really great stuff, man. And some other things I've heard you say would be that if you look at old statues, they'd always have a trumpet and a wreath and seven trumpets and seven drums. If you aim them at an object, you can cause them to levitate. And that's interesting because I watched this presentation from this anthropologist guy. You know, my whole life is trying to stave off brain fog like a lion tamer. So I can't recall the guy's name, but he said he would go down to this indigenous tribe and they would do their drum circles and they would get rocks, big boulders to levitate up to another group up on top of a ridge, like several stories high. And he came back and wrote about this. He's like, they did it with just drums and chanting. So when you said that, it stuck out to me because it does seem like a real thing as hard as it is to believe. But also I've heard you say that the dunce cap in schools, you know, we think of it as like something you just put on the troublemaker's head and send them to the corner. That's where I spent most of my school days. But apparently it had a more altruistic purpose originally that it would make the, well, you tell us the electrons spin a different way. So they would start paying attention better. I mean, these are the little throwaway lines I hear in your work that I'm just like, every one of these lines should be elaborated on. So with the seven trumpets and the seven drums, they would get in a circle. And like you said, they would aim the drums and the trumpets at the object and they could make it levitate and they can make it move. And you have to think of like cymatics. People take salt. They pour it on a little machine. They put, you know, 2000 Hertz and all of a sudden it starts depicting pictures and it starts making all types of creations. So if you have a strong enough frequency, you can move things or you can get somebody who's like in the opera and you could break glass. You know, the glass just shatters. So frequency is everything. And when you look at these buildings, it looks like somebody just understood frequency because a lot of the stuff is so perfect. There is no flaw at all. And human error, you know, you'd look at somebody painting, they always make errors and things like that. But these buildings are perfect. Almost like they just sculpt with sound and they understood like how to use the sound to sculpt things and move things. And it wouldn't be a lot easier than a horse and wagon, you know, that old story and everything else. But you know, when you get into that, sound is very fascinating. And there's a lot that's been done with sound, the sound of cathedrals. People walk in and they measure the sound of cathedrals and they see such beautiful things and all these fractals. And then it shows the same thing in their blood. It's mind blowing what sound actually can do. But then if we move to the dunce cap, so that's the work of Mary Hardy. She was talking about how when people would wear dunce caps, they would be able to focus. That was the whole point of it. They would put a pyramid on top of their head and it would allow the cells to actually spin back the opposite direction. Because she said that most people who are dyslexic are actually just spinning the opposite way. They're seeing the spiritual side first and then they see the physical. So when they would put the dunce cap on, they would be back to being in the physical instead of seeing the spiritual first. And so she actually experimented because her son was dyslexic and they put a pyramid on top of his head and he started being able to focus. And it's funny because like you said, when you were the bad kid in school, in the rock of color school, then they do that to you to shame you. But in reality, you're actually, you're going to be more focused now because you actually have that data. But it's interesting because she was actually building pyramids in Michigan and her son was actually going into them and they were getting downloads and all these things. But pyramids and shapes are part of frequencies and fractals. You look at Les Brown. Les Brown has some tremendous work with pyramids and all the stuff that he understood. He was actually taking wool and quartz crystal and putting it in pyramids and he was generating voltage. He was taking seeds, placing them in pyramids and they would grow two, three times the sides. So shapes and fractals are really cool. And there's a great book, Dan Davidson's Shape Power is a phenomenal book on just shapes and fractals and how each shape is just emitting different frequencies. And everything in nature, when you go outside, there's shapes and fractals all over. And Victor Schauberger said, if you want to work with nature, just replicate nature. Don't be building things in boxes, kinds of things. It doesn't make any sense. Just replicate the fractals or frequency of nature. So pyramids are cool, but Mary Hardy has some great work and I highly recommend. When I went down the crop circle, old rabbit hole, I found her. And I was like, wow, this all starts to connect because these are also fractals and frequency created by warps, plasma warps, which that's a whole other thing, but warps that can create. And there's all this resonance and frequency that comes out of these circles. And once again, like I said, it's debunked by Google because they don't want you to look in this stuff. You know, that's what I've realized. Yeah. Damn. I've got like seven names already of people I need to look more into. And I thought I'd heard it all. So just before I let you go, because I know this is about time and this has been amazing, but we have to save a few minutes to talk about your store and your products. I mean, with all the knowledge you have, like I said, clearly you're doing something right. When I have people on who are talking about health and wellness, I kind of pay attention to the way they talk and their recall for things, because like, if this is serving you, then it should show. And there's some guests that are like every question. Oh, I don't know. It's in my book somewhere. Well, it's your book. What'd you write? So it's amazing. Your recall for this kind of stuff. Clearly this is serving you well, but tell us about the things in your store. You've got mushrooms, you've got dragon's blood, you've got pearl, you've got shalajit. Talk to us about these things. We have a lot of superfoods on our website. And also, like you just said, I am actually writing a book on electroculture and ether. So that will go up in the store within the time when it's ready and cover more of these topics, just so that people are aware, because I want people to have something they can read. You know, people need to read books. You've got so many books behind you, I can see them. People need to read more books. I'm all about the book life. But anyways, we have all different types of superfoods on our website. We have shalajit, which is providing the body with 84 of 102 minerals. It's great at having high fulvic acid. It helps to pull graphene out of the body. There's a lot of studies on that, on PubMed of different fulvics and humic acids, pulling graphene out of the body. And we face a ton of that all the time. We have dragon's blood, which is an ancient tree sap. It's what they used to use as a band-aid. Whenever a person had a wound, they would rub some dragon's blood on there. The wound would heal within about 48 hours to 72 hours. Very, very fast. It's an ancient tree sap from the Draco tree, the dragon tree. You know, so we're kind of connected back into that. But it's the highest antioxidant food on the planet. The antioxidant value is at about almost 3 million. So blueberries are about 10,000. Chaga is 50,000. dragon's blood at 3 million. If a person's having gum issues, you know, a lot of people have recessive gums. They can actually rub dragon's blood on the gums and it will start to heal the gums and regenerate the gums. And it's fascinating. Nature gives you everything. So it's a really cool one. And then last but not least, we have mushrooms on there. Any mushroom you would like. We have all different types, but our pearl powder is probably the one that just goes bananas. We've had people healing their eyesight, healing their skin, brain fog, all types of issues. But the eyesight one is the biggest one. There was actually a study done on pearl powder where they were testing people who had cataracts and they had about 100 patients. And the professional gave them pearl powder for about two, three months. And within two, three months, 70% of her patients, the cataracts were gone. So I started to realize that we can regenerate anything. And then we've even had more testimonials where people's eyesight has gone from like plus six to plus four. We've had from negative three to negative two. You know, just remarkable things that when you look up on Google, they will tell you it can't happen. But what I realize is when we address the root cause and we bring in the right nutrients, just like we were talking about with water, the body can heal very fast. And pearl powder has magnesium carbonate, selenium carbonate, and it helps boost glutathione, which is very important because our spleen and our liver are constantly bombarded with all this nonsense. And it helps turn that meridian pathway back on. But you can find more. I got tons of information on there. Videos galore and blogs and everything else. But my whole thing is I had health issues and I want to be able to provide a solution that does not cost $10 million. You know, there's no reason for any of that. We should be able to heal naturally. And this whole podcast is also connected to that materials, frequency, energy. So same thing going into our products, materials, frequency, and energy of the highest grade to help elevate your day. Amazing. Hell of a pitch. And it's a certain kind of guy who'll do a two hour interview and not mention the products in his store. I had to bring it up, you know, and that doesn't happen all the time, I will say. But I'm just so fortunate and lucky and happy that you said yes to this. I'm all charged up. I'm jazzed. I'm going to hit that store for sure. This has been a really fun time. Cultivate Elevate is the website. You go deep on the YouTube channel. Any other links to give the people? So you can find more on Telegram. We have a Telegram community at Cultivate Elevate, which I think everybody should check out. And then I just put myself up on YouTube and Rumble and Odyssey as well. But the Telegram is cool because it's a big community. And I've been focused on that because I'm sure everybody knows of all the censorship going on nowadays with all the platforms. You know, Telegram is one of the few that you can just still talk to people in a group. And I really like it a lot. So you could check it out. If you want to join, come in, chat. I'm always in there chatting and having a conversation. Hell yeah. Telegram is great. I have a Telegram too. I never, ever mention it. I should do better with that. But you are the man. Thanks again. Keep doing what you do and enjoy the day. Thank you for having me on, brother. Holy hell, people. Matt, bring in the heat of a thousand suns. Wow. Wow. I am certainly impressed. And apparently everything does happen for a reason. This topic was supposed to be covered by a pretty hard-nosed leader in this electroculture space. Like I mentioned, I showed up maybe four or five times to an empty meeting room. Sometimes he gave me notice or wrote back to apologize. Sometimes he didn't, but I had to give up. Although I do kind of respect a person who is so focused on the work that they just can't take the time to talk about it or do the promo thing with some annoying stoner guy who keeps pestering them. Yet the show must go on. And I am so lucky I stumbled upon Matt because he's certainly our speed and he knows about a lot more than just electroculture. And he's willing to extrapolate out what a lot of great teachers were onto and what a world might've looked like if and when it was ever fully or even partially implemented. Just so impressive. And I really had a good time talking to him. He knew so many sources, even off the top of his head. And I have a very long list of things to follow up on now. And this is the kind of material that gets me jazzed up. Who cares about politics? We can't stop the war. What we can control is our own space and our own ownership of the alternative sciences that we get so curious about. These things are baked into the environment. So playing with them is really a birthright and something we can choose to do anytime we want. And it is time to experiment and share results and show the rest of the people out there what's possible just by being a better living example. So great interview. I'm very happy, truly motivated. I'm definitely going to follow up on some of his advice and pick up some of his products. And also I'll just throw this out there. Another example of superior tech that was used in the past that I've heard Matt reference is the flying train from Germany in 1902. The comments on the YouTube video say that it's still in operation and that's great, but watch the video. I'll put it in the show notes. It's pretty wild to see this train set up more like a modern roller coaster, like the Batman ride. If you had that at your six flags going overhead with people and horse and carriages on the road below. Whew. It almost doesn't look real. And of course a guy like Schwab would call it a glimpse of the good timeline. Certainly a drastically different mindset. Imagine returning to that sort of world as far as we are from it. I think that is the dream. So in the plus show, we talked about a lot more. We talked about the prospect of copper pipes for our water. We got really deep into the water stuff and the switching to PVC and what that did the mercury stuff. I think that might've even been free hour, but I think that was a little weird. I'm not sure about that, but Matt's take on the reset and how it was achieved was really interesting. We talked about his thoughts on the world fairs and the details of what was there, his study into blood types and RH negative blood and the copper based floods. We even got into hybrid people and blood types that have symbiosis with dogs and what that might mean. And we talked through some of the challenges I've had at my new place, trying to get into some of this stuff. Really hard to summarize it all. You know how it works around here. If you liked the first hour, if you were as jazzed up as me, if you like my show in general, throw me a bone, sign up for plus, get yourself the full two hour interviews and 12 years of great archives. Well, not 12 years because plus wasn't there at the beginning, but you get it. A big archive. Hard to find a bigger one. All right. Well, I hope you are enjoying your life and higher side news. I think we got some big, exciting updates coming for the plus system. I don't want to say too much about it right now, but we're about to unlock a whole new level of convenience without disrupting those who are already plugged in and happy, but more on that later. Let's see how many of you enjoyed the last episode with ROM X, a fun little diversion, breaking down his dot connecting when it comes to the beans behind the UFO. I personally liked it a lot and it looks like I'm not alone. 4.6 solid score. It's not the 4.7, 4.8 I seek, but it's damn close. And I've been considering changing the ratings plugin. I would like a greater range. I wish we had one to a hundred so that there was more nuance in the score, but I'm limited to what's out there and what plays nice with our larger system. But it's a thought that's rolling around in my head, just so you guys know. And as for the meetup calendar, yes, we got to go there. In fact, Gordon, the great white just mentioned that he might be making an event soon for those in Melbourne. So listen for that. But right now we got September 11th, the Halcyon Southtown location in San Antonio, Texas. September 18th, Pasadena, California at the Corner Bakery Cafe. And October 14th, Galbraith's Ale House in Auckland, New Zealand. Pretty light. I know we're getting into the holiday season, but that is pretty light guys. It is what it is, but this episode is a great example of the sorts of stuff you can go and talk to others about. Compare notes, share local resources, motivate and help each other. Hiresidemeetups.com. Go there for more details on any event to RSVP or to make your own. But that is it for me. Give Matt a solid attaboy for this one. Reach out if you liked it, try his products. Let's keep him in the rotation. To do that, he has to know that it was appreciated. So help me out there. Otherwise, take care of you and yours, focus on what's important to you and ignore the rest. I'm out of here. I've done my part. 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