Rep. Eric Burlison Exclusive: “Trump Is the Disclosure President”

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Thanks for checking this one out. I'll hand you over to the interview now. Welcome to the podcast, Congressman Eric Burleson. Congressman, welcome. Good to be on. Thank you very much for returning to your second appearance on the podcast. It's been a huge week for the UEP topic, especially in Washington. We've had the big topic right now is the Age of Disclosure documentary, which you're very familiar with. And I wonder from your perspective, what is the documentary aiming to accomplish that hasn't already been done behind the scenes by people like yourself or through congressional efforts? You know, it's a great documentary. It's very well done. It's the highest possible caliber of quality. I mean, they even did the soundtrack to the film was recorded by a live symphony orchestra, if that gives you an idea. It's truly an Oscar-worthy performance. But what the real gravity of the documentary is the testimony. So you have people like Marco Rubio and James Clapper, you know, people that were at some of the highest levels of intelligence. And the fact that they're saying these things is really remarkable. I would say watching the movie, there's not anything that I haven't heard before, but it was who you're hearing it from. And the fact that you had Rubio making so many bombshells statements is very compelling. Do you feel that's going to get through to, let's just say the American public, not a worldwide audience, that the gravity of the individual speaking is so important? Because I think there are limitations. It's often discussed the price point, the platform it's on, you knock away audience after audience percentages as you go down those roads. So do you think the audience that it's going to reach, it's going to have the impact that people hope it has? I certainly hope so. The fact that it's on Amazon, it's being brought into the mainstream. I think that it's getting a lot more attention. The producer, Dan Farah, is giving a lot of interviews. So the media attention is really robust. So that's encouraging. I hope that a lot of people watch the documentary and then really Thanksgiving is a great time for people to sit down and talk about what's going on. And hopefully this is something that people will bring up, this documentary, share it with their family, encourage people to watch it, and then ultimately encourage people to reach out to their U.S. senator or representative to take action. And the action that I'm working on is passing the UAP Disclosure Act. And so we've had a very difficult time getting that put forward. But I've been able to get, you know, maybe a last-ditch Hail Mary effort right now between now and the end of the Thanksgiving break. We may have an opportunity to get that added to the National Defense Authorization Act. Chairman Mike Rogers told me that if I could pull it off and get everybody, all the four corners to approve, then he would put it into the bill. So did Senator Rick Wicker. So we're doing everything we can to try to get those remaining, you know, and it's going to have to be the House ranking member of House Armed Services, the minority member, I'm sorry, the House Chairman, the Republican, and the minority leader of that committee, the House Intelligence Chairman, and the ranking member in the House. I believe we have to get Homeland Security, the ranking member, and that chairman. And on the Senate side, those committees, we have to get the senators and the ranking members as well. So it's a lot of names that we have to compile and put together in order to get it approved to be put on the bill. But that's what we're doing. These last few days, I've been scrambling to have phone calls with these individuals and to plead with them to put it on the bill. How hopeful are you that that will be fruitful? I would give it right now. You know, if you asked me last week, whenever I first was given the opportunity, I would have thought it would have been, you know, probably a 5% chance. Now I'm going to give it a 25% chance. So the fact that Senator Wicker is open to it, that's, that's a big, that's a big portion of it. And so we're checking down the list, and we're getting approvals. That's, that's good to hear. And I wish you the best of luck with that. A lot of folks have, have a lot riding on it. And I want to ask you, you mentioned Dan Farah, the producer of the Age of Disclosure. He was on the Joe Rogan show, and they hinted that President Trump may be considering a major announcement by the end of the year, something along the lines of we are not alone. From where you sit, how credible or realistic is that possibility? You know, Trump is the disclosure president. I mean, he's been, he's been releasing the JFK files, the assassination files on MLK. He's been very open about releasing the information about the assassination of RFK as well. And there's a lot of remarkable information that's being released. And, and despite the news, he has been extremely responsive to oversights requests. Unlike our, his predecessor, Joe Biden, who never responded to oversight requests for documents, Trump has never really turned us down. So on the Epstein files. So we are getting all these, you know, we've, we've received tens of thousands of Epstein documents and, and we released 65,000 pages of documents just through the oversight committee in that process. So the Trump is really the disclosure president. I think that the, but the game changer, and I think Dan Farah is right, is that the moment that a president of the United States steps to the podium and, and makes that declaratory statement that we have evidence that we are not alone is, will be probably the most, one of the most defining moments in world history. And so I, and I think Trump is the right person to do that. It absolutely would be probably the defining statement of humanity. A colleague of yours and friend, potentially at this point, David Grush has just been interviewed on Fox News. He's been working as a consultant with the House Secrets Task Force. Could you just briefly. Just to correct, and to correct that on Fox News, he's not a consultant for the task force. He's a consultant for me. So he, he is my staff and can only consult me. Apologies on that. It's not your fault. A lot of people get that wrong. Yeah, I got it off Fox, so we'll blame them. Can you just share for me very briefly, what does that role look like and what progress has been made specifically with him and being involved? Yeah, David has really been extremely helpful in navigating the intelligence community. And I mean, that entire landscape is very, very complicated. It's like an, it's like learning in a foreign language. It's absolutely convoluted and difficult to navigate. And that's where Grush has really shined for our, for us in this process. I think a lot of folks would, would think David Grush knows a lot that he can't say. How close are we to getting David Grush back into the SCIFs that we've heard there've been massive issues, getting clearances put back in? Is David Grush able to speak freely now in SCIFs to the people that he needs to speak to? He can speak at, um, at the top secret level. He can't speak at the, the TSSCI level, but, but that is something that we were able to gather a lot of information at the top secret level. And myself and Anna Polina Luna have been in a briefing with him at that level. And then I think that now, now she would like to have a briefing, the same briefing given to a larger, larger group of people. In addition, we've been in a briefing with the, with the FBI. Um, hopefully we will be able to get more members into that briefing the next time it's done. So all of this is just gaining momentum and getting more people to, um, to pay attention to this topic. You gave a statement in the New York times recently where you said you, you've had enough of hearings and what we need now are receipts. You mentioned in private conversations, you've been given enough information to know they exist, the receipts that is, but that you still don't have access. Can you expand on what you mean and what's preventing members of Congress from still seeing this firsthand? Yeah, because I mean, that's, we have to get permission. So that's one of the assets that David Grush has provided along with other testimonies that we've had in other conversations. I've been given names of locations to go see. I've been given, you know, specific videos to be looking for and requesting, but to be able to have access to those facilities and that it's going to have to take, um, approval from, and we have to get a lot of approval. In fact, that process that I'm going through right now, where I'm getting all of the chairman and the ranking members of the, of the, those committees to have to approve just the bill going on to the NDAA. I have to get that approval for any kind of, um, exposure or the ability to see or visit a site from all of the parties interested, chairman and ranking members. And so it makes the process really convoluted and difficult. And oftentimes in that process, we don't know who the, who's saying no. So we, we're, we send it into a black box and then somebody can anomaly, anonymously decline. And then we have to go about the process of trying to back channel and figure out who, who was the person, the culprit that declined. You represent the show me state, Missouri. Um, the public sentiment right now with this topic mirrors that identity. People want to be shown more, not just told as more evidence coming and do you believe the public are any closer to getting access to anything definitive? You know, I think we've, we have, I've followed a lot of rabbit trails. Um, some, at this point in times, many of them have ended in dead ends, but it doesn't mean that we're going to stop looking and that we'll, that we'll continue the process. I'm open to people sending us information, new, new threads to pull, um, new reports. And so that's right now, I think we're at a, at a crossroads because we, we've received, we've really kind of had hearings and, and the people that are going to come forward and talk have come forward. There, there's a handful of people that would like to come forward, but I'm not sure that the, what value they'll bring, um, to any additional value that we've already, already gotten. So, and at some point the committee has to move on to some of the different topics. We still haven't had a hearing on the Martin Luther King Jr. assassination or the RFK assassination, to give you an example, or Epstein. So we, with the committee has to kind of, we've been given a broader task than just UAPs. We can't focus all of it on that, but, um, that being said, what I'm focused on is kind of following these trails behind the scenes and seeing if we can't come up with some further evidence. And if we get, if I, if we get enough evidence, then we'll probably post up a hearing. Just on that, it seems a difficult topic to move on from. And it was a difficult remit you were given with the timescales given to the task force as well to move on from UAP because an allotted time is kind of up and you have to move on to specific assassinations or the Epstein. Not that there aren't important historical facts and mysteries and whatnot, uh, that people deserve to know. But the question of, are we alone in the universe is potentially at stake of being answered here. How do you feel about having to potentially move on from that and allocate resources elsewhere? You know, at some point you just, if we don't come up with anything, there, there's going to have to be a point in which you just kind of call it and then kind of put it on the shelf, let somebody else who's got a fresh eye and a fresh, you know, perspective to be able to pull it, pick it up and move on. And so, I mean, you see that happen all the time in investigations where a case goes cold and then eventually with new technology or new insights, you're able to pick it up and move forward. So right now, I think we're just going to push to the end of this, the deadline that we've got with, and then utilize whatever time that we've been given and continue in that process. And hopefully, we'll be able to be successful. And I just want to finish off asking you about your personal journey, Congressman, because you seem to have really taken this by the horns. You've not only got involved in the UAP conversation at the levels we see publicly, you've traveled to Peru, for example, to visit the alleged mummies, those bodies. Yeah. And I wonder, what are your thoughts on that situation? And has it and how has it changed your overall thoughts around the UAP issue? So it's really, it's been interesting. Look, I don't, I'll follow any breadcrumb and follow any kind of, any kind of opportunity. I'm not definitively in the belief that what I saw was truly alien, that I'm waiting for the, the test results to come back. We've gotten some interesting test results from the Buga sphere that we, that we, that I witnessed some scientists take samples of. But, but at the end of the day, I am not, it's not definitive to me that that is created by non-human intelligence. It very well could be, I'm just, I'm not going to jump to that conclusion. And just a final word from you to the audience, people listening and watching around the world and in the United States, of course, what are your hopes for this issue in the short, medium and long term? Yeah, my hope is that a week from now, whenever we go back into session, that the NDAA bill that we're getting ready to pass will have the UAP Disclosure Act embedded in that bill. That is my immediate goal. That outside of that, we're, we're trying to, and I'm communicating with the White House to encourage the president to issue an executive order very similar to what he issued on the JFK files and others related to the UAP topic. That, that is something that I think is a possibility. And if, and if Trump world, you know, recognizes that the public wants this, I think that that may come to be more of a priority and put something on his plate. Right now, I don't think it's, it's top of mind for him and that's fine. He's got a lot of irons in the fire. He's got, you know, the war in Russia and Ukraine to resolve. He's got the affordability crisis to, to deal with in America and, and a lot of other things. And so he's, he's got a lot of things on his plate. This is not exactly a top priority. And, and, but I think that it doesn't mean that he, that he can't dedicate a little bit of time or his staff dedicated some time to do an executive order. And so that's what I'm hoping that there's enough, that the public will demand something, especially from this documentary. Hopefully people will watch it and then, and then the outcry will be enough that action is taken. Excellent. Well, Congressman Burleson, thank you so much for your work in this topic. And thank you so much for your time today. Thank you. Anytime. That's all for this episode of That UFO Podcast. Thank you so much for listening and watching. If you enjoyed the show, please follow, subscribe, and leave a rating or review wherever you get your podcasts. It really helps others find the show. If you're watching on YouTube, hit like, subscribe, and turn on notifications so you don't miss future episodes. You can also support the show directly and get early access, add free episodes, and bonus content on Patreon. Or by subscribing on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube memberships. 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