Ryan Bledsoe | Cosmic Angels, Occult Space Rituals, The Invisible College, & The Prophecy

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Sign up is quick and easy, and you're keeping a truly independent platform intact. For me to still be doing this the same way after so many years, clearly that means the members are pretty happy, and you could be too. Think about it. Tell a friend, and thanks for listening. So say we all, Higher Side Chatters. From the Sunshine State, I'm Greg Carlwood, and regularly we reflect on what this reality really is, why we're here, who we are, and all the big questions so often ignored by the meandering masses making their way through the endless loop of work and worry, stress and sleepless nights, screen-scrolling and binge-watching. Eighty years seems like a long time to live, but we see plenty of people walking among us who never make it to even a moment of deep thought and big-picture contemplation. Yet others regularly confront these questions because they routinely have logic-defying experiences or connections with entities that truly give them no choice. One family that knows this all too well is the Bledsoe's. In 2007, while fishing on the Cape Fear River with one of his sons, Chris Bledsoe had an intense entity encounter complete with missing time and spontaneous healing of his debilitating Crohn's disease. Ever since then, his family has lived in close proximity to high strangeness, glowing orbs, and a prophetic entity now widely known as the Lady. So much so that people regularly come to their North Carolina property to see for themselves and often do. Chris's experiences attracted the attention of NASA, military intelligence, the CIA, and agents from almost every governmental organization you can think of, including members of this so-called invisible college of prominent businessmen and scientists who investigate high strangeness in the shadows out of their own personal interest. Chris also exhibited the ability to pass on this spontaneous healing to others, and has many examples of such, including being brought in to heal higher-ups within government and the intelligence community and their family members, only attracting more attention and study from the big machine. Well, Chris was here for an interview with me in 2020 that I still look back fondly on, and he released his wildly popular book in 2022, UFO of God, The Extraordinary True Story of Chris Bledsoe. Today, we are joined by Chris's son, Ryan, who has been along for the ride since he was barely a teenager and has had many wild experiences in his own right. He's also the host of the popular podcast, Bledsoe Said So, and I know it's going to be a good time. The paranormal podcaster, strange stuff experiencer, and invisible college person of interest, Ryan, welcome to The Higher Side. Hey, thanks for having me, Greg. I love the intro. Never thought that I would hear one with me on the show. So, if it's okay, I'd like to say, this is like a major manifestation moment for me. This is legitimately the first podcast I ever listened to. Wow. When I even found out about podcasts, I think I typed in conspiracy, and all these different podcasts popped up, and I was attracted to your picture. I was like, this looks cool, and here we are, man. So, I do have you largely to thank for me getting onto the podcast scene and starting that whole journey. Man, I appreciate that, and thanks for saying so. I have really been looking forward to this because you and I have talked a bit on and off since the interview with your dad five years ago. You've shared some insights with me privately and showed me my first picture of metamaterials that apparently comes from off-world or contains off-world elements. It's very bizarre-looking metal twisted up, and let's start there, actually. Assuming many people listening know the general shape of your dad's story, there is a person in Diana Pasolka's book, American Cosmic, she calls Tyler D, and it's come out that this person is Tim Taylor, and Tim is the one who brought this metamaterial to you, right? That's correct. Yeah. Wow. Tell us about that experience and what it was like holding it and the effects that it had. Yeah. So, just to very quickly backtrack and explain how and why he came to see us, as you said, our experiences started in 2007, right? And it was very difficult at first. We had no clue what was happening, what we were getting involved with. We had reported our experiences to MUFON because we were watching like a UFO TV show, and it said, if you've had a sighting, go to MUFON, right? So, we go and we report our sighting. I had no clue it was a CIA data collection agency, right? We're just like ordinary North Carolina carpenter-type family. Me and my siblings were all children. And over the years, NASA started door-knocking. People started coming from around the world, had seen the documentary because there wasn't a documentary about us that came out in 2008. Shortly after we reported it, and it just kind of snowballed and got out of control to the point to where it was so much for us to handle at the time. Dad was throwing in the towel. I don't want to talk about this stuff anymore. This is causing damage to my children. They're getting mocked at school. Long story short, in 2012, he has this experience with this glowing woman. She's floating off the ground. She gives a lot of details about the age of Aquarius and stuff we had never heard of being Pentecostal Christians in the Bible Belt, right? She said that she goes by Hathor, but that throughout time, she had been known by many names and just all this strange stuff that we're like, what does this mean? And when Dad reported that encounter in 2012 is when the CIA personally started getting very interested. So shortly after that is when Tim Taylor came. And I want to say the first time he came to our property, it was October of 2013. He shows up. It wasn't like he showed up as a surprise like NASA did. He had arranged to my dad through text or call or whatever. Can I come? He's like, yeah, but it's my daughter's homecoming game this weekend. She was always running for homecoming princess and queen and all that stuff. So he was like, you have to be okay with going to my daughter's football game if you want to come. Other than that, come on. I'll send you that picture of people from the intelligence agency going to my sister's high school football game. It's pretty hilarious. Just gives you a taste of like how interested they were, you know? But anyway, so he shows up. He has all these badges. They're like CIA, NASA, NRO, Air Force. He had one that said Area 51, like literally, I kid you not, it was like a, they call them lapels, right? They're like these little printed pieces of paper inside a laminate slip and they're like on lanyards. Like a Comic-Con badge. Yeah, it's like that, like a Comic-Con badge. And he had, you know, CIA, Air Force, NASA, Area 51, NRO, and that might be it. I'm not sure. But he shows up and he basically says, you know, who he was, why he's at our property. He said that he was tasked by his superior to investigate us in order to understand the phenomenon from a spiritual or religious angle. So in other words, when people get really read into the program in these intelligence agencies and they start getting deep into the weeds, they are nudged by higher ups to say, okay, you need to start studying things like Kundalini, mysticism, sacred geometry. Like they're made to study all these things, you know, there's a Crucianism, the Templars. So he came to us to learn what he could learn. He had an NRO mission patch that he showed us, which by the way, NRO is a joint operation between CIA, Air Force Intelligence, and NASA. And it means the National Reconnaissance Office. And it's like top secret spy satellite. And he was in that plus all those other agencies. So he had this NRO patch and you can look it up. I can send you a picture of it or you can just Google it. All mission patches are public information, right? And it had a picture of this lady with purple hair with a gown and she has a trident like Neptune and she has a fireball in her hand. So she's obviously a godlike magical woman. And he's telling us she has been revered throughout all time. She's been worshipped in places you couldn't imagine. And we know she's real and she's been tracked throughout all of time, literally like Fatima, you name it. And basically, he said, like, when you guys reported this, we knew it was serious. And he made my dad write down all of his encounters with her and what she said and explained to him. He took that to the Pentagon. But in the same little weekend when he was there, to get back to your question, I know it was a long-winded answer, but he had a MacBook with him and he opened it up and there was a PowerPoint presentation. And it said, for the Bledsoe eyes only, and he was like, I want to give you guys this presentation. And look, if you've heard my show or you know who I am in the slightest, you know that I do not protect these people and I think it's all, you know, I didn't sign anything and I'm going to tell you like it is. And basically what he said, Greg, was we have a small box that we're going to get as close as we can to the edge of this box. And I'm going to explain things to you just as close to the borders of this box. Beyond that, I'm not allowed to talk about with you. And he was like, and I would highly recommend that you don't go publicly and talk about any of this material. If you had been telling this story six years ago, we would have shot and killed you and made you disappear. But we don't really do that anymore. We have other ways of ruining people's lives. And besides, if you do go talk about this publicly on Facebook or YouTube, whatever, everybody's going to think you're insane and you'll look like a lunatic. So that's your call if you want to do that. But otherwise, we would really prefer that you keep quiet about this stuff and you don't talk about this publicly. And we were like, okay. So he starts showing us this PowerPoint. It has pictures allegedly of Area 51. I do think a lot of it is bullshit. And I think that they, as you probably know and are familiar with, I think that they pump a lot of bullshit into people to try to get people to spread their story and make the big boogeyman bigger and badder and scarier. He showed me a bunch of pictures of an empty room and said, this is Area 51. It's like, whoa. You know what I mean? You weren't impressed. Maybe at the time when I was like 20 years old, I was just like, whoa. But now I'm like, you know, that is kind of whack. It was just pictures of a room. And death threats about don't talk about this. So he has these metamaterials is what he called them or exotic metals or whatever. I think metamaterials kind of came later. Tom DeLonge came up with that whole name or he was given that name to spend to the people, whatever. So I went first, right? He was like, I want you to try something. I want you to hold these metals and I want you to pay attention and notice what you feel. And I was like, what should I expect of it? He was like, don't think about it like that. Just notice if you feel anything. I was like, okay. So he put a piece in my left hand and I felt nothing, right? And then he put a piece in my right hand. And when I was holding both, it was like an electrical current through my body. And it wasn't painful. It was very gentle and kind of soothing, but it was like electrical energy. Have you felt like a tinge meter? It's a totally normal thing used in physical therapy. It's like if you've broken a bone or you have like a severe muscle injury, they put these patches on you and it sends those currents through your body. Back in the jackass days, I saw them playing around with those things. It's kind of like that, but even less painful than that. It was just like energy flowing through my body. And I was like, whoa, I feel it. I feel it. And he was like, interesting. Then we went one by one and got all the members of our family to hold it. And all six members of my family, like my mom, my dad, my siblings, we all felt the energy. My wife, who at the time was only my girlfriend, was over. And I was like, let's try it with her. And he was like, okay, fine. He was kind of getting uncomfortable. We put it in my wife's hands. She didn't feel anything. We'd only been dating for two months. She had never seen anything. That's significant. So he's explaining to us after we all went through this little experiment one by one, that this is a test that the, you could call it whatever you want to call it, the Invisible College, the Illuminati, the high level Department of Defense people. He's indicated that they go by all those names. Let's just say the cutting edge people in these government circles who are in the know, they use this as a test to determine if people are for real or not, as far as having experiences with entities. And he straight up said that if you have had any sort of encounter with a dimensional entity, you'll react to this metal. Because this metal, he said off planet. I know if you read Diana Pasolka's book, they talk about, they'd pop out of thin air at the giving field and they just appear there. There's something very strange about this metal. When my dad held this metal, it caused his vision to black out. And like you could see the muscles in his arms pulsing, tensing up. It was kind of like jolting him. He was feeling this really powerful interaction. And Tim was freaking out. And he looked at him. He was like, what in the, why you, why is this happening? Dad was like, I don't know. And then Tim said he'd only ever seen any sort of interaction period from three other people ever. So he was blown away that we were having these experiences. So let me jump in just to ask you that picture that you sent me. Can I include that with this show? Or does it still have to stay out of the public eye? No, dude, send it. Let it go. All right. We're ripping the bandaid off. I'm going to make that the cover art for this. I'm not protecting anyone. Okay. Okay. It'll be the cover art for this image. So people listening know exactly where you can see that. Great. Cause I've, you know, I didn't want to blow up your spot or anything like that. People send me things sometimes. I'm not going to be the one to leak it or betray their trust. So very, very interesting. Now I don't want to go all Brad Pitt and seven, but what's in the box, you know, what is in the box? He said, you can go up to the lines of the box. You're not going in it. How much do you think they know? Are they still trying to investigate things? Do they still have questions? What do you think is beyond the lines of that box that he said he couldn't tell you? You might know more now than you did that day. Yeah. Well, that was like 11 years ago. That little conversation. Let's just say that they are not being honest about the connection and the interaction that they claim to have. And I can honestly tell you, and only because it's still happening live right now, it's not for protection of anybody. It's kind of like get things done first and then talk about it later. But I can tell you right now, even just two weeks ago, my dad was advising somebody associated with the Pentagon about disclosure. And again, it's like, I only don't want to say that just because it's still happening. Well, yeah, let me ask it this way. So when you say they're not being honest, they're saying a lot of different things. What is the narrative that is dishonest that they are publicly putting out there? Okay, let's look at the David Grush thing, which just happened, what, two years ago, three years ago? I can't even remember at this point. He's this guy who's an alleged whistleblower. He's got this piece of paper. He's like, I've actually never seen anything myself. I have this report from my superior, and I am testifying under oath that I will be truthful about this report. And he's reading the report, and he's talking about this report, plausible deniability. And he's like, people have been harmed. They are invading our airspace. It is a national security threat. They have technology far superior to ours. They can jam our radar systems. This is really an intelligence crisis, people. And I have a report on this piece of paper that says someone was personally and physically harmed. It's like, really, dude? You're a sheep. You're a little puppet that they put out there. You're like the straw man that they set up so that you can lie under oath because you raise your right hand to God and you're reading a piece of paper, honestly. And that's how they do it. And I would imagine that these encounters go back to biblical times and probably cover the spread between very positive and very negative. I mean, it seems like there's an ecosystem of spirits out there, and they can be as diverse as people. I would assume. I don't have experience. But it is interesting that when you put someone forward, you cherry pick a story that includes someone being harmed, which might have actually happened, but definitely might not be the norm. It might have been an exception to the rule, which is usually pretty mundane, at least in terms of walking away from the encounters. You know, not a lot of people seem to be harmed. Yeah. My take on this, after having seen and experienced so many things and have had so many conversations with so many people, look, I'll be the first to tell you I'm not a fundamental Christian. I do believe that a lot of elements of the Bible are true because of something that you just hinted at. You said that maybe this phenomenon goes back to biblical times. I think you're absolutely right. I think that this phenomenon is always here and has always been around us, and a lot of the myths and stories of miracles and gods and things from around the world are because of this. So therefore, I think some of these things are more true than maybe we thought, like stuff from Hinduism, stuff from whatever. And my understanding of this, as you said, ecosystem of beings is it's like a spectrum of existence, and to me, that includes levels of, you could say, like enlightenment or awakening. And it's like, as you climb that spectrum, you evolve beyond the physical and you become more of like a spiritual or a psychic dimensional being. And I think that the negative entities or the evil and malicious entities are such that they exist and mental phenomenon that you could think of a biblical description of a demonic possession. I think that's accurate. Now, the government's perspective is that there's reptilians through back channels. They put out all this bullshit through a lot of these government whistleblowers, through Scientology, through Aleister Crowley type shit. It's a really deep thing that we can get into if you'd like. But they put out a bunch of this. They eat us. They're reptilians and they're conquering the galaxy and the Galactic Federation of Light. And the Pleiadians and we channel to the starseeds. And it's like all this bullshit, man. And something that they want people to believe, like the great deception is that this phenomenon is some scary alien come down in a flying saucer threat that wants to eat us and probe us and harm us and yada, yada, yada. I just don't think that's fact. I think in reality, it's more like hermetics, right? Or like the esoteric, that it's like a continuum of existence. And we're evolving higher and higher and higher in the scale of existence. And those negative beings are like egregores or like mental spirits or parasites that latch onto your mind. And they whisper horrible, dark things in your mind and make you kill yourself or harm others or commit horrible acts. Right. I think the confusion for a lot of people who get into this stuff is they think, well, the big machine, the government apparatus, the big swamp, these are negative people. So if there is a force that is teaming up with the swamp, the invisible college, then these beings therefore must also be negative or dark. How do you work that out? If they're working with these people that are keeping the secrets and letting the empire go on, I mean, there's got to be some kind of connection there. There's got to be some kind of relationship. And how can we say that these negative human forces are engaging with this higher angelic force and there isn't a contradiction? Yeah, I think that's very, very intuitive of you. And that makes perfect sense, right? If they're like a swamp or an evil empire and they're in line with some beings, then it has to be dark. You bet your ass, dude. And also, I know for a fact, because people in the Department of Defense have numerously told us, not only me being present for some of these conversations, but also many times to my dad, well, just particularly, I might not have been around in that moment, but they have said numerous times, the reason we come to investigate you is to find out what these beings want. They don't interact with us. We are terrified of them. They make us basically powerless and afraid, and they cannot control them. How can you shoot a spirit with a bomb? You just, you can't do it. It's like trying to take a needle and penetrate light. It's not possible. You're going to look like a jackass. And yeah, I will tell you this. You might find this interesting if you read between the lines. So, there's this individual, and I want to say he's a nice guy. To me personally, he has never said anything hateful or malicious. Now, as to his broad intentions towards humanity, I cannot speak to that. All I can speak to is that to me personally, he has been a very nice guy, right? And again, we can read between the lines. But there is an individual named Jim Simivan. He's retired now, but he was the director of the spy program on behalf of the CIA. He's involved with To The Stars Academy. He's a very big hitter as far as like government disclosure goes, which I'm sure people can understand my stance on that. I'm not endorsing that. But I will say that we got to talking a few years back because in 2015, he met us, the Bledsoe family, and he said, I wanted to meet you guys personally. I asked him a question. I was like, well, when did you find out about us? And he had this little grin on his face. And he said, well, the moment you made your report to MUFON in 2007, every intelligence agency in the world became aware of your story and knew it was real. He's like, you guys have no clue how much you've been studied by various agencies around the world. He said, and I just wanted to come and say sorry that you guys were so mistreated. He said, the Discovery Channel documentary was run by a couple of low-level spooks sent to hack you guys to pieces and make you look bad because at the time it was classified. And I'm so sorry for the way you guys were personally treated. I want to in some way make it right. And we were asking him all kinds of questions, developed a little bit of a rapport. Like I said, on one level, he's been nice to me. Can't vouch for his intentions for humanity. I want to make that very clear. But a couple of years ago, I texted him. I had a dream, a really vivid dream. Now, I explained this guy's position to say that as far as intelligence channels are concerned, he's one of the most high-powered, accomplished officials. I mean, he's like literally ran the spy program, the clandestine operations on behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency. If you look at contractor ranks, which, you know, if you're like in the CIA, you're not a private or a general or a captain or whatever. It's contractor GS1, GS2, GS3. And there's like a handbook. And you look at these ranks and how they relate to like army or navy. There's like an exchange rate in terms of rank and authority. He's a two-star general, equivalent rank. Very powerful figure. Now, my point in saying this is not to glaze him. My point in saying this is that when someone at this rank and stature is talking to civilians, especially persons of interest, there are two possibilities, in my opinion. A, directly lying, running an operation. B, in a position that they have to be very careful what they say and cannot just say random things. Maybe a mix of both, right? A CEO of a company would not go to somebody, oh, I'm a fan of Starbucks. The CEO wouldn't be giving goods away to a person who shops at Starbucks unless he was just like messing with them and intentionally trying to see what they would say or react or would be very careful for damage control. So anyway, he said a lot of strange things. And I texted him one morning and I said, I just had the craziest dream about you, Jim. I had a dream that there was a alien, I say quote, because in my dream, it was like this mental parasite, like an egregore. And I said, in my dream, this mental alien force was possessing people in the highest ranks of the government and the military. And in my dream, you were terrified that you were going to be possessed by this entity and that it would control you and make you do evil things. But in my dream, you were okay and you didn't get possessed. I was like, take that for what it's worth. Maybe it's just a dream. And he literally just texted me back. He was like, maybe it's not a dream. Yes, man. I am always curious how the dream world relates to the spirit world, let's say, because T Townsend Brown had an experience where the invisible college he was working with, they kind of left for a while. And then one night he and his daughter had the same dream that UFOs landed on their property and Beans brought back the material for him to work on again. And when he brought this up, they basically said, yeah, that was us. So it kind of insinuates that there is a way to penetrate dreams, to actually travel to someone's inner world and cause events. So I don't know, very strange, but it seems like he has some insight into the realness of the dream world too. Man, there is really just so many places to go. So another big reason that we set up this interview was because of the strange situation with the Sean Ryan show. And this seems like small potatoes compared to how deep we got so quickly, but I'd already expressed a little skepticism about that show. And then I saw your post that your dad didn't interview with him. And then the release was delayed and you wrote, Sean then revealed via a phone call with your mutual friend that the interview will not air due to the fact that, quote, Sean, amongst other things, cannot be associated with elements of your story. And you posted this publicly. And after the public pressure, I think that's when the show did come out. It was two days later. Yeah. So it is curious to me because he has all these big UFO disclosure military guys on. I'm sure he's had Grush on. I'm sure he's had Lou Elizondo on. So he has your dad on. And then it's like, eh, we don't really like parts of the story. What do you think those elements were? Well, I know exactly what they were. And don't you find it hilarious that after all that public pressure and days of people trolling his social media, which I did not think was going to happen, by the way, that was not my intention. That was kind of a shocking moment for me. Um, but it's so funny that a couple of days later, he, he released the episode and called it the episode we never censored. Yeah. See that? Yeah. Yeah. Uh oh. I expected him to say something in the intro to it, but he didn't even really reference it. It was just the name of the episode. Clearly the drama speaks for itself, but a lot of people probably had no context for why it was called that. So here's the thing. Two days after our episode aired, he put out Diana Pasolka. And then I think it was a few days after that, he put out Lou Elizondo, or it was some alien vainglorious peddler. And on one hand, privately to our mutual friend, he claimed that our story was not on his content roadmap anymore. He had all these reasons why it wasn't going to come out. It's just not on our content roadmap. We're not talking aliens right now. And then he puts ours out and then two more UFO shows come out. So it's like, really, dude, I've been told by two different people that he got a call from someone in the CIA. Now, you might be thinking, well, dude, he's ex-CIA. Why'd you trust him? I don't know. The guy that connected us was like, I'm telling you, dude, he's one of the good ones. And I'm like, all right, cool. It's a big platform, right? I didn't think that any of this would happen. I was told by our mutual friend that like, dude, he gets calls from the Pentagon. Or whatever, all the time saying, you're revealing too much crap, man. And like, I was made to understand that he's like bucking the system and he doesn't care. And then it's like, now I know it's a different story, right? I know that he's more or less controlled. At least that's what it appears based on my personal interaction with him. I don't know that for a fact, right? Wink, wink. But yeah, so we recorded with him. It was an amazing show in person. And by the way, Greg, something that we do, my dad and I started doing this two or three years ago, that when we are doing a show in person with somebody, we say, let's sky watch first so that you can see this with your own eyes. And then we can have something to talk about. It's interesting material, but also like, we don't really have to explain the whole, it's just, we can all be on the same page. So if I was in Tampa with you, is that okay that I said that? Yeah. All right. Or if you were in North Carolina with me, no questions asked, I'd be like, let's do a sky watch, man. Let's go see it. I offered him to do that when we drove to Tennessee and he was like, yeah, sounds great. The night before the show, he dodged me. He completely ghosted me, blew off the sky watch, which right there should have been a red flag. I had to text his assistant and be like, where am I going tomorrow? Sent me the address, whatever. I get there the next day, he's like super nice, so excited to meet you guys. Oh my God. He's all like, I've been hearing a lot about you. I talked to Brandon Fugel about you guys because my dad's been on like one of the Skinwalker shows. So he's crossed paths with Brandon Fugel a few times. He was like, I was at Skinwalker and I was talking to Brandon Fugel about you guys and what you guys got going on. I've been checking into y'all and this is really exciting. I can't wait to talk about this stuff. And after the show aired, his jaw was dropped. He was like, oh my God, this makes so much sense. He's seen orbs, dude. He's seen them before and he told us a story. He was like, I didn't really know what it meant, but now it all makes sense to me. He was like, Eureka, this is amazing. I want to do a part two. Maybe I can come to Fanville and sky watch. And he was all like, oh man, the reason I didn't sky watch last night was because tomorrow I'm flying out to Trump Tower to interview JD Vance and I wish I'd canceled that. I would have rather sky watched with you guys. It was just all this glowing, like he was just glowing, like this is so amazing. And me and dad are like, fuck yeah, that was awesome. And then the days go by and it's like radio silence. He told me it would be out in a month. October comes around. I'm like, huh? I haven't heard anything about it. November comes around. It's because we recorded in September. November comes around and I'm starting to sweat a little bit. I'm like, what's going on here? He told me a month. So I emailed his assistant, which is a, Hey, check it in. When's the episode coming out? She said, January 23rd. Okay. That's kind of far out there, but whatever. December comes around. I start to think in my gut, this isn't going to happen. I think I get a weird feeling about this. And then I get a text message from our mutual friend who introduced us. And it was a screenshot of a text message that said, not going to air the episode. Bledsoe made claims that I need to think about. And it's like, what? Just two months ago, you were saying this was like the most interesting shit ever. And you know, so it's like, what changed? And then January comes around. I get more messages from our mutual friend, basically saying, just got off the phone with him. It's straight up, not going to air, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. And then I start getting messages from other people in his crew. And they're like, yeah, he gets calls all the time. So like, anyway, the thing, yeah, I know you asked the question. I was just explaining how the dominoes fell there. The thing that he didn't want to be associated with was my dad was telling his story about the lady. And if you're familiar with that encounter, she gave a star alignment and she said that when the star alignment happens, that there would be more or less a new knowledge, we would kind of shift to a new way of thinking. Yes, I actually think he did talk about this in the interview we did, but it hadn't been fleshed out as much as it is now. And now a lot of people are talking about this. But yes, it seems like we're a year out. Tell us about this situation. Yeah. And I think it's very important to, I mean, it's kind of too late at this point and people know us as predicting a date or whatever, but she actually didn't ever give a date. People in NASA did give that date, but I do believe that the date corroborates and it makes sense. But she just said, there's going to be a star alignment. It's when the Sphinx is aligned with the star Regulus and Leo just before dawn or whatever. And dad was explaining this and he said, you know, I believe it's the return. And Sean said, of Christ. And dad was like, well, yeah, or no, maybe the lady, maybe it's beings. It's the heavenly host. I don't know, but I think a piece of heaven is coming to help us. And in the final cut, he cut a lot of the pauses and other elements of that conversation to condense it down and try to spin it on us and make it look like we're like trying to predict the literal return of Jesus Christ, which is not the way the conversation went, but whatever. Some people online, they say that there's an earthquake associated. Did the lady say that? I'm not familiar with that. Okay. I just read that this prediction, you know, people say all kinds of stuff in the game of telephone online. But the one thing I had read most recently was that a lot of people were saying, or this conversation was being had that the event that was supposed to coordinate with this timing was some big earthquake. But I had never heard that come from you or your dad. It didn't come from us. No. Okay. So good. Well, it seems like we don't really know what it will be, but when your dad took this prophecy to the people in NASA, they ran their calculations and they said, hey, Regulus will be aligned with the Sphinx on essentially what is Easter of next year. And we're basically have Easter week right now. And so that's really interesting. Now, another layer to it that is interesting to me earlier, you brought up the patches. Well, I watched someone who put together a little piece about this prophecy and they overlaid all the mission patches that have the Sphinx on them and a star. Like he doesn't say Regulus necessarily, but there's all these different configurations of the Sphinx from above, from below, side angle. And it's always with a star up in the sky. Why is this on roughly a dozen that I saw mission patches and different army Department of Defense patches? Like clearly this is important to them. And maybe this information has come from other sources other than the lady. I think it's a very ancient thing. Yeah, it's obviously very important to them. And if people really dive deep and they pay attention, we started talking about this alignment in 2012. We didn't have podcasts. I mean, we meaning the Bledsoe's. We didn't have podcasts yet. We didn't have a book. We were just taking whatever little program would give us an interview. So we were like more or less getting out there publicly in some capacity. But we were talking about this alignment since 2012. If you notice in the past five years, there's been people from the government, people in the CIA, Pentagon people like Lou Elizondo coming out and being like, there's going to be an impending shift in 2025. Actually, there's going to be one in 2027. There's people from the literal government coming out and of course, poisoning the water. They're trying to like change people's perception of things and mix lies in with a bit of truth because that's what they do. That's their MO. But they have been talking about some sort of impending shift ever since we came public with that information. You think they're trying to get ahead of it and trying to make it a scary thing when the source of the information seems like it's going to be a positive thing? Man, it's just such a tangled web because I know with my conspiracy mind, I'm always very guarded about being incepted into accepting something as good that is truly not good. And, you know, you read a book like Jacques Vallée's Messengers of Deception and it's like, yeah, what are these things? And it's not like every good or bad entity has to wear a label that describes their orientation. Negative forces try to act good to win favor. So that being there, it becomes really tough for people who don't have the firsthand experience to accept that something good would happen because it's just easy to be like, oh, I bet they said they were good and then they're going to suck all our blood or whatever the hell. But obviously there's good and bad in the world. But you just have to boil it down to what was said. And has this entity ever done anything negative? Not in your life, not in your family's life. I mean, your dad was healed and then also developed a healing ability. And now there's so many layers like people could say, well, yeah, this entity healed one man and had one man become an advocate for that being. And who knows what this being's larger intent is, just like you were describing people from intelligence come to your house and they're very nice, but they also work in some programs that aren't so nice. It's just difficult to sort out. I'm sending you a video now, by the way. That's why I'm looking down at my phone. I'm sending it to you on Twitter. Just for example, this past weekend, and also I want to say they've, at this point, being almost 20 years we've been doing this now, they've healed dozens and dozens and dozens of people. And let me bring something up there because I know the audience is going to just ream me if I don't, and we're getting close to an hour. But when I talked to your dad, we talked about him trying to heal me. I've been deaf in my right ear since I was three. So it just seems like a really good test because this is the sort of thing any doctor would say, you cannot heal that. It's impossible. There's no technology. And he said he would work on it. I think he asked me to send a photo and a lock of hair, if I remember correctly, which I understand like energy, frequency, you got to have a piece of a person. And then nothing really happened. And I know you had messaged me that I think you had a family tragedy around this time. And I know he's blowing up in popularity. So my cousin overdosed at that time. Oh, sorry to hear that. I'm sure in rural areas in the Bible Belt, that's very, very common. I mean, it's getting to be common everywhere, but sorry to hear that. But for the audience to update them on that, it just seems like maybe he got too busy and was dealing with family stuff and it just didn't happen. We can't say it was a failure necessarily, but maybe it just didn't happen to your knowledge. It's also not a magic trick and it's not an ability that my dad has. He just requests that people be healed. And many times it does happen and it's not something he has control over. You know, I do still think it's possible for you. Hmm. Man, well, it seems like I need to come to North Carolina for a couple of good reasons now. Come on out, man. We'll do a whole Skywatch thing. We could probably get some epic content about that. Just hanging out. I would love that, man. We'll put you up. Yeah, let's talk about that. I think that would be amazing. Now that I'm on the East Coast, it seems like it would work out. So I wanted to go back to Diana Pasolka and this comes from her Sean Ryan interview, actually, probably the one right after your dad's. But you had kind of mentioned that these intelligence people say that these beings don't really interact with them or they just maybe they don't understand them fully and they still have a lot of questions. Well, kind of along those lines, when you were on Danny Jones, he titled the episode CIA and NASA are trying to open the door to a spirit realm. And I'm curious if you think that's really what's going on here. But here's this quote. I just got to read it from her on Sean Ryan. And she says, our space program today has some really interesting rituals associated with it. When it does certain launches at Cape Canaveral, maybe not all of them, but the ones that Tyler was involved with, they had images of Roman gods and goddesses put on the rockets. They would use Latin on the patches, you know, their mission patches. And they would also have specific rituals that they would do, sometimes involving U.S. presidents. They would position the president at a certain point where astronomical events would happen. They would just be positioned there. So, you know, they're like, stand here, President Obama. And he would stand there with his wife and look in a certain direction. It was part of the whole thing. And there were photos. He has photos of all that. So this is obviously some type of ritual. And I don't know why they're doing it. I just know I'm a scholar of religion and I know a ritual when I see one. So I noticed that they're using Latin and I noticed it was medieval Latin. And I was like, this is a particular form of Latin. It seems like it's Roman theology. So they were using the images of Roman gods. And I would ask Tyler, why are you using these images of Roman gods? Why are you putting them on your mission patches and also utilizing Latin phrases from that time period? I mean, you're sending this up to space. Who in space is going to read Latin? And his answer was, our sponsors. So to me, that is a big reveal that you don't usually get. There's a lot of spooky detail in there. I am a big fan of the overlap between the occult and these entities, which if we're talking about them in a religious context, it's way closer to the occult than spacemen. What do you think of that? I can't really speak to the whole story from Diana and Tyler and the rituals they do other than they have told us as well that they do these rituals and that they even face different cardinal directions on the equinoxes and the solstices with mission launches. I'll tell you another thing that they told us was that all the Jack Parsons stuff was true as far as his rituals, the Babylon working, the creation of JPL and all that stuff. They indicated that it is true. And you just said another very important thing that I want to touch on. You said that you believe that the UFO phenomenon is closer to the occult than it is to spacemen. I think that is 1000% correct. And I think that the modern government version of the occult comes from Scientology, which basically comes from Aleister Crowley. The first ever story of a little gray man was lamb, which was a channeling from Aleister Crowley. And there has been phenomenon recorded for hundreds of years. Even in the 1800s, people were reporting seeing flying airships or balloons. And over time, the appearance of these things have changed as our technology has changed as a human race and have observed them in different shapes and forms, right? I believe, I'm going to tell you some dreams that I had that were very significant to me. So I was 18 years old when the lady first came. We were Pentecostal Christians. For someone who doesn't know what Pentecostal means, it's very strict. If you've seen the righteous gemstones and you see the people that are in the small-time church in tongues and singing gospel music, you know, in a really old-timey sense, that's what I come from. Bible Belt, North Carolina, right? So you can imagine the existential shock when seeing these things as a child. And I was 18 years old. The lady comes. She tells my dad, which, of course, he turns around and tells me right away, that she was known by Hathor. But throughout time, she's been known by many names and that she was the divine feminine, the hidden aspect of the trinity, of God. And she said that the hidden one is Amun-Ra. And I'm like, what? Isn't that that Egyptian character from that video game I've seen? You know what I mean? I didn't know what this meant. Stargate. Yeah, that too. That too. We loved Stargate growing up. My dad was obsessed with it. Even before our experiences, it was his favorite show. But anyway, so I started thinking about this stuff really deeply. I'm like, what does it mean? What does it mean? It's like, on the one hand, I believe this because I'm seeing these kinds of things with my eyes and I know my dad is telling me the truth. But then on the other hand, this isn't in the Bible and I'm a little concerned about how this meshes. At the time, I had no clue how it made sense. But I just, I was like, I know this doesn't make sense to me right now, but I'm just going to go with it and it'll make sense someday kind of thing. Over time, I started to have dreams, really powerful dreams. And one of them, I was probably about 21, maybe 22 at the latest, just out of college. And I was still going to church at this point, but I was kind of like over it, but I was waiting for the thing to get me out of it. And I had this dream where Osiris was standing at the foot of my bed. And the only reason I knew what Osiris looked like was because I played a video game at the time called Smite. It's like a little MOBA, like League of Legends or something. And all the characters are based on gods from different myths. And he's like a character in that game. So I had seen images of him in a video game. I didn't know anything about Egyptian gods at the time, just because, especially Pentecostal Christians, you're like forbidden to study anything. My pastor literally told me, oh, you do martial arts? Just be careful not to get into a trance because demons might enter you. Oh, you're going to do yoga? I don't recommend that. Demons might enter you. It was that kind of extreme thinking. I didn't know anything about Egyptian gods, right, other than this little video game. But I knew it was Osiris. He was standing at the foot of my bed. And he had the green skin, the wraps, the headdress, and all that. And he's standing there at the foot of my bed in my dream. And he's telling me things, but there were no words being spoken. I just had a sense that he was giving me important information. And then my dream shifted. And there was all these little frogs hopping around my room. I was chasing them. And one of the frogs died. And I picked it up. And I felt really sad. And I held it in my hand. And then it came back to life. And then it started hopping around again. And I felt happy. And now I understand that to probably mean like reincarnation, right? So I woke up after that dream. And I was so tormented by this dream and what it meant. All day. I was working construction with my brother at the time because I had just graduated from college. All day I'm just like stuck and thought about this dream. What does it mean? This was so vivid to me. But I was busy. So I couldn't really dive into it until that night. Night comes around. I spent anywhere from six to eight hours researching Osiris and Egypt and all these different things, which led me down this rabbit hole to like hermetics. And I found about hermeticism. And I was like, this makes sense. This is what it means. As time went on, I started meeting more and more people in the CIA who I would ask them questions. And on the one hand, they talk publicly and they say one thing, but then in private, they say another. And something that they would all indicate to me is that they're into Rosicrucianism or the Templars, all this esoteric stuff. Tim Taylor, for example, the guy from Diana's book. By the way, I was one of the people that put out his identity. But anyway, he told us in private, he was like, you guys should look into Kundalini and sacred geometry. And he had a shirt with the Ouroboros on it. And he was like, do you know what the six-pointed star means? And we're like, no, isn't it the Star of David? He's like, no, the triangle pointing up is the masculine aspect of God or creation. And the triangle pointing down is the feminine and you merge them together. And he was just saying all this stuff. And we're like, whoa, you know, never heard of it. It was like, you guys need to research sacred geometry. It's very important. And anyway, so I had that dream. Some people, let's just say in the CIA, encouraged me to look into Rosicrucianism. And they were like, it'll help you kind of understand a little bit more about what's going on. So I say all that to say that my journey has led me down this road of studying the esoteric. And as you study the esoteric, you find that the great secret is that there is a divine feminine. This is true in Gnosticism. This is true in Rosicrucianism. This is true in the Templar Knights. I'm not that into Freemasonry, if I'm being honest. I don't really care to look that much into it. But you find this theme that there is a divine feminine, and it is like this very important kind of taboo secret force that's been guarded by these orders for thousands of years. And it's like, huh, no shit. Yeah. I'm right there with you where you go down these rabbit holes, and then you hear what the secret is at the end. And you're like, that's it? That's what all this is about? People are dying over this? Yeah, a lot of people say it's sex magic, too. In the OTO and stuff, they'll say, well, at the very highest level, it's just sex magic. And it's like, well, what is sex magic? What's accomplishable with sex magic? And then you get into the Parsons stuff and the idea that, I mean, we are all affected by astrology. At least I think astrology is a real thing. The positioning of the cosmos when you're born has an effect on your personality. So then if that's true, can you game that? Can you intentionally conceive and deliver children at specific times for specific reasons? And that gets into the Parsons stuff because the Babylon working is trying to bring down a certain being into a woman through a ritual. And can it be done? I don't know. But it is interesting to think, like, maybe that's what they mean by sex magic. Maybe they just didn't know what an orgasm was a thousand years ago or trying to figure it out. But yeah, I always expect it to be a little more. I expect them to have a little bit more of a handle on the big mysteries. And sometimes they don't. But I wanted to go back to that Danny Jones title. The CIA and NASA are trying to open the door to a spirit realm. I don't think that's exactly what you were saying in that interview. It's a long interview. Things get said. It's clickbait. Yeah. You know, I don't love that. I don't love that. I might try to start playing the clickbait game myself because it just seems to work so well for people. But do you think that's a true statement? I'll tell you what I do know is true. They're terrified of what they call catastrophic disclosure. The literal Pentagon, Department of Defense, all of these intelligence agencies, they are terrified at what is inevitably unfolding right now. And they cannot stop it. Catastrophic disclosure means we, the people, are becoming more aware of these beings and the beings at the permission of us with our free will, allowing them into our world. And so many people, oh, my God, you know, in December, you have thousands of people filming orbs. It's just growing and growing and growing. It's hitting critical mass right now. But because of this, these beings are coming into our world more and they are terrified at the aspect of these beings choosing to come in and put a stop to what's going on with these government powers, like whether it be war, control. So, and I will tell you this, George Washington saw the lady, something that was recently put into our awareness a couple weeks ago when my dad had some meetings with, I'll just say, some Pentagon people. And they put it on our radar as something that they take very seriously. And details of this are in the Library of Congress. And you can just buy this book. It is not classified material. It's just out there. You can research this. So, George Washington saw the lady. Do you know what book? I don't know, but we can find it because I have a friend who has the book and he sent me a picture of it. You could just Google George Washington UFO experiences. It'll pop up. Fair enough. Fair enough. It's not classified, right? But what I'm trying to say is they take this seriously. And this lady came into his room. He's terrified. Apparently, she sat there for like 45 minutes and he's like in fear. And then eventually, she gives him these three prophecies. I think the first one was something like you're going to be the son of the Republic, you know, and obviously he was the first president, right? The second one was something about like the Revolutionary War or stuff that already happened. The third prophecy was that there will be a future time when there will be a great threat from the East that will seek to come into America and that the angels, quote, right? The angels will come in and they will stop this great calamity, which is kind of what my dad was told, by the way, in a roundabout sense, that if it gets to the point of war to where our suffering is so great that we can't bear it anymore, they'll come in and stop it. So I'm telling you this, Greg, so that the audience can hear. You asked if I think they're opening a portal to the spirit world. I think it's quite the opposite. They are terrified of these beings. They do not want them intervening in our world. They do not want them coming in and stopping them from doing the evil things that they are doing to subjugate us, poison our minds and our bodies, make us sick and afraid and stupid and lazy and sick and all these horrible things that they do to us. These beings don't like that. Huh. Man, it is so interesting. It's probably a little hard for some people to take super seriously because there's been so many stories of beings with prophecies. And I don't know if they just don't have a good handle on human timescales, but these prophecies are always happening. You know, you can go back to George Van Tassel and he said that these beings told him, oh, we are the reason why there are religions. We come down. We inspire people. They take the story off and become evangelicized in our with our message. So some of them seem to like to stir up these kinds of stories, but they never seem to go anywhere. None of these prophecies really seem to come true. Fatima, I mean, even and it's so weird that they're all tied up in geopolitics, too. I think one of Fatima's prophecies was that Russia was going to do something. And it's like you were really vested in little human dramas when I would think you'd be more big picture and less telling us about geopolitical events. Of course, you know, war is kind of a big one. But what do you think about that? The fact that you can go all through history and there's so many prophecies that are either told to someone a thousand years too early. How serious should we take this? I mean, now we're talking about a story that might be a year out. And it's like, are we setting ourselves up again to just be like disappointed by something that was said and we got worked up and then it just didn't happen? I think prophecies are like a warning and that they can change. I think that the future is very malleable and it can change by our free will and also our participation. And this is what the lady told my dad. She said that there's a dark force in power scripting prophecy. That they are taking people and events and sort of making them happen like a play or a production even to script biblical end time prophecy to happen, to force it to become true and manifest a cataclysm. Alistair Crowley talks about this. It might have been on your show that I heard this many years ago. It might have been on Sam Tripoli's show. I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure I heard you talking about this, Greg. Oh, you know what? I think it was Isaac Weishaupt, another great friend of mine. Shout out, great friend of mine. But one of you three, I know it was one of you three. I was listening to the show and it was talking about how Alistair Crowley writes about reenacting the drama of a God to reinforce them in their archetypal energy into this place. And that's kind of like what the powers that be are doing with the book of Revelations. They're reenacting it like a drama so that we in the collective accept it. And this being, the lady, right, the divine feminine, whatever you want to call her, she told my dad that it doesn't have to be so, that we can change. But what that means is that we all have to sort of wake up and choose to be in like a loving, positive state and not in a place where they're siphoning our fear and causing us to suffer from being in that vibration. So it's like, you know, is the star alignment going to happen? And then we all look up at the sky like Independence Day and ships come down. I don't think so. I don't think it's like that. I think that it's very metaphorical. And in reality, when astrological alignments happen, eclipses happen, certain portals activate, it's not like everyone looks up, oh, you know, the aliens are invading. It's not some grandiose event. To me, it's like it's an energetic shift. And then going forward, the rollout of everything that happens is different and there's a new energy present. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's what it means to me. Right on. Yeah, I could see that. Clearly, we don't have these giant events that span the whole globe. They just don't really happen that way. It just doesn't happen. So what about people that also have like a really close connection? I mean, your dad is known for having one of the closest connections to this phenomenon today. Has he met other people that not even in government, but just other regular folks that it's like, oh, no, you definitely have the connection to like how many of those type of people do you think might be out there? There's a guy that I had on my show recently named Paul Oglesby Sr. Very fantastic series that we did on our show. It's like six hours and two parts. This guy is amazing. He's an angel. He's been to hell and back. And he was like pretty much on the streets for 20 years, homeless for five years, just rock bottom, in and out of jail, all kinds of just crazy stuff, man. And rolling with gangs, selling drugs, just living the most low circumstance imaginable. And he, at one point, had a demon attached to him, like a legitimate demonic attachment. And long story short, by the end of it, he started seeing orbs and having these crazy experiences. And it just like saved him out of it and changed his life around. And now he's just this magnet for experiences. And he's just like the most incredible, glowing human being. And the first time I met somebody else, when I was like, yeah, dude, you are the real deal. And he sees orbs like every day, all the time, gets amazing footage. His son is a little bit younger than me. He's in his early 20s. And he helps his dad with all this stuff. And they take footage together. And they travel together. And I started meeting him at these festivals, at these group Skywatches. And I had to have him on the show. I had to get his story out there and help him feel protected in the sense that I didn't want some other guy to tell their story out there and make them feel uncomfortable or maybe challenge them or whatever. I wanted them to have their story told by someone who was like them and knew what the struggle was like to not be believed. Next thing you know, this past weekend, we did this festival. Everyone's like, when is the Skywatch? When is the Skywatch? The Bledsoe's didn't go out Friday night. We wanted to rest and have a private little recovery mode night because then Saturday and Sunday, we knew we were going to go Skywatch with hundreds of people. So my friend Paul that I'm telling you about, I was just telling everybody, go talk to him, man. He's got you. And they saw like 100 orbs that night with my friend Paul. He is the real deal. How often do these orbs, because I mean, I would be interested in seeing orbs. Like I said, I had the night vision experience, but how often do these orbs actually get within 100 feet of people or actually an angel comes out of an orb? You know, something that really says this clearly is not a star. This clearly is not the space station or a satellite. It does happen. That's not the kind of thing that typically happens with crowds of people, although I have seen that many times with small group experiences. Like one of my best friends, he's a brother to me. It's a guy by the name of Tom Barber, and he is the vocalist of Chelsea Grin and Darko, which are like my favorite metal bands. I love metal music. And that little magical access card that we're talking about allowed me to befriend the vocalist of my favorite band that we really hit it off. And we're all into this stuff together. Anyway, I've seen orbs with him that are like very close, five feet away with wings, look like Navi from Zelda, but yellow. And they swooped down and they went right in front of his face. What the fuck? You know, he's like freaking out. It was his first time sky watching with me. He saw orbs literally five feet in front of his face. He was there with me in October when we did a festival sky watching with 200 people. And again, I'm with 200 people. This bar of light appears about maybe 100 feet over our head. It's like this thin bar of light that was translucent and gray. And then it started getting brighter and then it split into four orbs and they had wings and they were like glowing white. And it was just like this freaky experience, man. And Tom saw it with me and he was just freaking out like, oh my God. And, you know, we see things like that all the time. Just the other night, last weekend, not the one that just passed with the festival, but the one before, I saw a spirit run by my garage. And like these things do happen, but I can't predict when it's going to happen. And the large majority of the time, Greg, we're with a crowd of people. Out of 350, maybe 30 of them are terrified. So whatever beings are up there doing this, they're like, maybe we're going to ease into it tonight. You know what I mean? We don't want to terrify people and make them have to pick their brain up off the ground. It just depends on who you're with. With you, just come on out, man. I'm ready to blast off. I'll tell you that. We'll see what happens. Awesome. Well, this has been a pleasure talking to you, man. Keep doing what you do with the podcast. If you're ever in Florida, you got to let me know. Remind people where to get the podcast. You've got a Patreon thing going on. Give them your links. Yeah. So it's just Bledso Said So. That's on YouTube. Obviously, we're on like X, Instagram. We do have a Patreon. It's a great way to support the show. And otherwise, yeah, it's just Bledso Said So everywhere. And I want to thank you again, Greg, because you are literally the first podcast that I ever listened to. And if it wasn't for finding your show and getting into podcasts, I never would be doing this myself. So I would love for you to come out and visit in North Carolina. And if you're up to it, it'd be great to have you in the studio and we do a show and go into what you're about. Of course. I love it. Well, we will talk in the future. Thanks again and take care. Thank you. Ryan Bledsoe coming in hot, spilling the conspiracy. Gotta love it. So often with these sorts of interviews, there's so much calculation over what a person will and won't say, what they can and can't reveal. But Ryan seems just as frustrated with that as a lot of us are. And he seems incredibly open and honest. I always try to remain pretty neutral and a little cautiously optimistic. But I'd say I'm a big believer in the Bledsoe story. It's hard enough to keep lies alive with one person and then you rope in all your kids. I don't know. That'd be really narcissistic, psychopathic behavior, wouldn't it? Chris does not seem like that kind of guy at all. And I do think they keep their story pretty straight. Some people debate small details online. But with this much contact and these many little stories from the phenomenon itself and the government context, sometimes they might say a text, sometimes they might say a phone call. These are small things to me. And I consider the family not only to be genuine, but not willing to be pushed around. They're not willing to have their story twisted into something nefarious or threatening. And like I said, these things are complex. If a being or a group of beings have a larger negative agenda, they might be super nice to one family and get them to become advocates and help build credibility and a rapport. But that's really deep manipulation. I tend to fall on the side that whatever is entangled with the Bledsoe is actually as it appears to be and does sometimes perform miracle healings through him. And this connection has nothing to do with other connections that might be out there. But this healing ability has been exploited by privileged people. And Chris has been honest about that, too. And I don't even criticize that. In fact, I think it's pretty telling that well-connected families with all the resources in the world available to them who have sick children exhaust the medical system, get no results and end up desperate enough to bring in some UFO contactee miracle healer. I file that away as if the system has nothing to offer people with every resource, it probably doesn't have a lot to offer me either. But again, I'm not one to say all entity encounters are good or bad. I hate painting with such a broad, absolute brush. But Ryan seems discerning enough to make his own assessment, and I'm going to go with what he says. And I guess I need to be better friends with the Bledsoe's. I actually remember back in the day when I did a couple interviews with James Gilliland, who has a property in Washington State near Trout Lake. He talks about very similar types of experiences and orb sightings and that anyone can come to his ranch, his place, and have experiences pretty reliably. And people have brought cameras. I think Jimmy Church went out there and Coast to Coast might have gone out there. He told me I could come see for myself, and I just never did. But I feel a bit more drawn to the Bledsoe story. And if there's a chance to heal my deaf ear, well, I'll take it. On top of maybe having a contact experience and just hanging out with Ryan, who seems a lot more my kind of guy than some of the other options for these sorts of things. And let's talk about that cover art image for this one. As I said several years ago after I interviewed his dad, Ryan shared this picture of the meta material with me. I think this is the actual stuff from the gifting field in American Cosmic, or very much like it. But you heard the story about energy and the effects that it had. Well, I have held on to this photo, and I was just thankful to have seen it myself, and now we're putting it out there. I hope it's not disappointing because people have seen it somewhere else. I'm sure I'm not the only one to put stuff like this out there. I wouldn't exactly call it an exclusive reveal or anything cheesy like that. But I've looked at this a lot, and it does seem a bit unlike anything else that I've seen. And I'm glad Ryan gave me the okay to share it. See what you think. But when I have a guest with a personal story and credibility being such a big part of it, I do surf the comments and Reddit threads to see how other people generally feel. And you're always going to have critics, but most people seem to be pretty open to what the Bledsoe's say. A lot of people say, I've followed them for a long time. I find the story credible. I haven't found two comments where people said that they, or someone close to them that they know, was healed by this ability that comes through Chris. Just regular people without a major platform. I could totally see how someone would just go to the comment section on a Chris Bledsoe video and tell the story. The healing ability, clearly amazing. The prediction is super interesting. We have about a year to see what happens. But the number of military patches with the Sphinx and stars is so strange. We will see. I will also note that these beings seem to be pretty bad at physical time. So I don't really consider it something that the whole story hinges on. But I am curious to see what happens. I'm reminded of the Schwab show where we talked about these experiences and how they kind of mirror MKUltra type experiences, and maybe just part of the process for them or something that they think makes the whole thing work is a prophecy. I don't exactly know. But the whole Bledsoe story reminds me of this other story that I've told before. But because of the crazy rap that's on my car that does have UFOs on it, a guy stopped me one day in a parking garage and said, hey, man, I see your car. Are you interested in UFOs? Because I saw one once. And I'm like, oh, yeah, sure. What was it like? And he said, well, it wasn't really a flying saucer or a ship. It was more like an orb that turned into an angel. And I'm like, OK, now I'm really interested. An angel. Damn, did it say anything to you? He's like, yeah, it did. And it healed something that I had going on with my throat with a warm light. And then it shot back up into the sky super fast. And that was it. As I'm putting groceries in the car, like, wow, cool, man. Well, have a good day. But I liked that story. It resonated with me. It stuck with me because of those little nuances, healing and something more religious. Whenever someone has a personal story that bucks the conventional framing, to me, that rings more true because they're willing to go outside of the framework and say, my experience was a little different. So to me, that's a close match for the Bledsoe story. But the Invisible College probably just doesn't know about this other guy. And then in the disclosure hearings, they focus on people who have died encountering these things. And there was that recent document saying that in Russia, a whole platoon was hit with a beam and turned to stone or something like that. Well, I'm not saying that's wrong. I hold the door open for a wide spectrum of interactions and orientations. But it's just interesting how selective the disclosure movement is and how the emphasis seems to be on cherry picking the very rare deadly encounters. And they pepper in some other stuff, too, because they're not trying to be so obvious about it. But it just seems clearly slanted that way. You might also remember another interview I did with the director, Alan Stivelman, who made the film Witness of Another World about a simple man who had an encounter and came away with healing abilities as well. It was free to watch on Amazon Prime at the time of the interview. I don't know if it still is, but Jacques Vallée did investigate that case personally, too. Wild stuff. But I really liked this one. The second hour for Plus members is great, too. More insights from Tim Taylor, someone I consider the most interesting man in the world. Fuck the Dos Equis guy. Any detail I can hear about him or something he said, I'm really interested in. We also talked about angels and astronauts and what Chris was told about astronauts seeing angels up there that all of them see at least orbs, if not angels. Very curious. And then we also talked about Ryan's time at the Monroe Institute with the Gateway Tapes. All good stuff. One of my favorite interviews in a while. I hope you guys agree. And we will see if the ratings reflect that. And speaking of, let's see the rating for the last episode. Carrie Olahey. Really dark personal story. One of the sickest, darkest THC episodes in the 15-year history. I don't know what to expect. I would hope the rating here is mostly a reflection of how trustworthy people found Carrie to be and how believable her story is. Maybe a 4.6. That would be my guess. There were some sound issues, but let's check it out. Okay. It came in at a 4.8. Very nice. So relieved. I never know with a personal story. It's very much a pass-fail kind of episode, as opposed to a person with a lot of research where you might like 75% of it or something like that. But a 4.8 is great. People clearly were engaged with her story and found it credible. And now I do have to call this thing in. I'm getting on a plane tomorrow for Amsterdam and Monaco, taking my mom on her first international trip at 82. After the passing of my dad, I just don't like seeing her sitting around alone in the house. So we got to talking and she expressed a wild fantasy of going to Monaco. And I'm going to make that a reality for her. The Amsterdam part is just for me and the wife, but that's fine. I will be back May 2nd and I'll get right back to work on another month of shows. But in the meantime, here's what the meetup calendar is showing. We got Bisbee, Arizona at the Bisbee Social Club on April 26th. We got Springfield, Illinois at Marjorie Adams Wildlife Sanctuary on April 27th. Also on April 27th, Merritt Island, Florida, Kiwanis Park. And they're talking about Frisbee and paddleboard. So check that out. And then another one on April 27th, Tarpon Springs at Sponge City Brewery. Love to see it filling up a little bit. Then we have May 4th, Star Wars Day, Kiwanis Park, Merritt Island, Florida. That is the same as the other one. So maybe they messed that up. Make sure you go to the website for all the details and clarify that those two events at the same place are happening. Hiresidemeetups.com. But thanks for using the calendar, guys. I think it's a great resource for our types of people to not feel so alone and to insulate ourselves for the challenging time we seem to be coming up on. But very cool. Check out Bledsoe Said So. It is a great name and a great podcast. Let them know if you enjoyed this interview and I will catch you on the next one. I've done my part. Your move, disclosure narrative curators, entity encounter investigators, and invisible college secret keepers. Your fucking move. From space it was falling, its light started calling, it's making crop circles again. Just as I was looking up, it showed me all the hidden stuff, and now I'm all enlightened and zen. Silver ships set me straight. Did you two go when you see the salsas glow? One by one we'll all end up awake. Dumb starts to die. Kabo...