Sam Tripoli | The Paypal Mafia Broligarchy, USAID, & Connected Comics

Well, hello, party people. Just a quick announcement about the Higher Side Chats Rune Soup Mashup Meetup coming up on Saturday, March 8th. The Crazy Wizard did it, and Gordon is coming to the Swamplands of Florida, and we're doing a talk slash live podcast slash meetup event for free. I can't remember the last time I went to any free event, but the guys at High Springs Brewing have made it easy on us, and we want to bring them some business and get together with as many people as we can while we can. So it's not just limited to plus and premium members this time, like past events were. And if you don't know High Springs, it's a little north of Gainesville, but if you're in the Tampa area and don't want to drive yourself, Gordon and I are getting the party started early and taking a bus up there. It will be picking up in front of the Tampa Theater at 10 a.m. It should arrive at the brewery sometime around 12 or 12.30, and the event will go till about 5, and then the bus will bring us all back and we'll land in Tampa again around 7 or so. I picked the Tampa Theater for the pickup location because most people know where it is. There's a nice park across the street to smoke a little smoke, and there's a great breakfast sandwich shop right on the corner called Supernatural, which Alton Brown called the best breakfast sandwich in America, and I'll take it. So a perfect storm of great day-starting goodness. So again, the event itself is free, no ticket needed, but the bus is not. A bus ticket is $75, and I think it's about a third sold out already, so hop on that if you're interested. The bus is drink-friendly and has a bathroom on board, so it's about as convenient as can be, and Gordon will be coming hot off the heels of another ayahuasca journeying ceremony weekend, so we'll probably get some insights from him on that if the bus does have any kind of on-board PA system. Sounds like a fun way to pass the time to me. We do ask that you RSVP for the event so we can set up accordingly, and you can do that on the meetup page right at the top of the show notes for this episode or at Hireside meetups.com, and the link for the bus tickets is there too. All right, I hope I'm lucky enough to see you there. On with the show. The planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan. There's clearly maybe something there beyond the realm of man. Until we've thoroughly tested every last close-chested view. I find the more we think we know, the less we really do. Where would we be without TAC? Cause we know they're lying to us, just don't know. Where would we without TAC? The Hireside chat show, Greg Carlwood and Sam Tripoli. It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. A beautiful day for a neighbor. From the Sunshine State, I'm Greg Carlwood. And it's safe to say that many of us have learned that when you decide to stop passively sucking up the mainstream slop or serve through the conventional trough, that savory stew of propaganda, psyops, PR, and agenda-driven manipulative narratives, and instead start actively nourishing yourself from the fountain of knowledge in your own self-directed way. You realize the truth wants to be known. The pieces do fit. The corruption is that bad. Following the money usually does work. The same pages of the big playbook are used over and over again, and everything really is connected. Whether you start your studies in consciousness, conspiracy, ufology, the paranormal, journalism, energy, archaeology, anthropology, magic, nearly any academic field, or even permaculture, many roads lead to a full-blown dreamcatcher tapestry that takes you into areas you didn't even expect to go. Well, today's guest, my friend and colleague, Sam Tripoli, is well aware of this phenomenon. As the host of Tinfoil Hat, one of the most popular conspiratorial podcasts on this island earth, because through that, he ended up creating a wide range of shows he hosts or co-hosts, from the spiritually-themed podcast Zero to Broken Simulation, Deep Waters, Conspiracy, Social Club, Union of the Unwanted, Doomscrolling, and more. He also co-hosts regular people shows like Cash Daddies and Punch Drunk Sports. And if that wasn't enough, he also just released his comedy special, Why Is Everybody Getting Quiet in October, Watchable Free across all his major accounts. And of course, you can often find him doing stand-up on the never-ending road in a city near you. Clearly, there's got to be more than one of them to be doing all this, but I'm glad we got the original, you-know-he-goes-deep homeboy, the knuckle-dragger with a heart of gold, the tinfoil hat-wearing, hammer-the-gods-drop, an Armenian assassin. Dreams do come true. Sam, I am. How the hell are ya? Greg, honored. That was so awesome. Thank you. You are like ChatGPT. You're so smart in your writing. I would need to go through AI to write that a million times. So thank you for having me, dude. It means a lot to me. You know, I've always been a big fan. You're a big part of the tinfoil hat journey. You know, when the show started, it was just a comedian wanting to talk to comics about conspiracies. Because I always loved conspiracies. See, my father raised me very paranoid, my mother too, but my dad was very paranoid, told me, don't believe anything in what you hear and half of what you see. And he raised me like that. And I'd always paranoid. Then one day, he said, I saw a conspiracy podcast. And it was a lot of work. So I had this guy named, who would be known as Off The Grid Ryan. I met him at a recovery meeting, and he became my co-host. And he started wanting to book the show. And you were one of the first bookings of the show, where the show kind of kicked into a hyper drive of going from a comedy show to discussing more serious topics. And then it became a really important show for a lot of people. And you were a big part of that. So I'm always grateful that people like you and Adam Curry kind of trailblazed the whole thing. And here we are, dude, doing it. I'm very excited to be on your show. And it's a blessing. Ah, too kind. There's definitely many steps between Adam Curry and me. There's a big gap there for sure. But yes, I was your eighth guest ever. I went and looked it up. So that was pretty damn early. And you've been good to me. You've helped me live out a couple of comedy-themed dreams, things on my make-a-wish list, performing quote-unquote at the comedy store. It was COVID. Everybody was outside. But hey, it counts. And I mean, you know, when you're doing the dance in much bigger places with people like Rogan and Roseanne and Tim Pool, it's nice to have you here. But I mean, I'm small potatoes now. Who cares about the higher side chats? No, never, dude. Higher side chat is the gold standard, brother. I mean, you go super deep. I've always said this about Tim Pool Hat, that Tim Pool Hat is the kiddie pool or the training wheels that people get on. And then eventually when they understand what's going on, they move on to shows like yours that does really deep, deep, detailed dives into all this stuff. As we hurl towards a thousand episodes, which is the big goal, we'll see what happens after a thousand episodes. You know, we're going to start going a little deeper because I feel like our crowd is ready for it. I love that. You know, we've been able to grow a genre. You know, I feel like you trailblaze that and I've joined in and now it's like there's so many conspiracy podcasts that they can't shut all of us up. They try. They are trying. You know, there's so many great podcasts out there spreading so much news. You know, now I was just on Tim Pool and Tim wasn't there because he just had tooth surgery or something, but, you know, I was telling him, you know, it's like a paranoid population is a powerful population. And I feel like with all the podcasts out there, people are waking up more and more. Mm-hmm. That's true. And I'm happy to be the harder drug to your gateway drug. We all need a gateway drug. Yeah, dude. There we go. I did want to ask you, though. Do you ever talk to Ryan anymore? A lot of people ask, is he good at least? Can we say he's good? You know that much. I do hear from people time to time that he pops up. Ryan's on his own journey. If you study the times that Ryan was on the show, it was much darker. I didn't realize it until much later. Like, we were interviewing, like, the head of the, what was that Lucius Gaines guy? He was head of the Temple of Satan or something like that, and we were interviewing him. And then when Ryan left, it kind of got back to the light. And so it was interesting. So Ryan's on his own journey. He's a deep thinker, and he just needs to go at his own journey. So I recently heard he was in Vegas, so he must be doing fine. I know a couple people have been friends with him since he was a kid, and he does this where he just disappears for a couple of years, and he'll pop back up. I hope he does. I love Ryan. He's been through a lot. I love him. So yeah, I hear he's doing well. Good to know. Good to know. I love Ryan as well. But what a time to be in conspiracy podcasting, right? It seems like every day is something new, and we actually chose this time because it would be a few weeks into the new Trump term, and we expected there'd be plenty of stuff to talk about. Seems like we're not wrong. They certainly came in hot. What should the conspiracy-minded person be seeing in all this? Cautiously optimistic, but with karate defense. That's what I would do. Celebrate the wins, but understand that there could be something else coming, and that's my opinion. When he does things I like, like exposing USAID, I like that, but I also understand that taking over Gaza and turning it into a strip mall isn't good either. So I'm 52 years old. I'm old enough to know that these people aren't here to save us, okay? And we have to be, again, guarded in our optimism, but we can celebrate things that we like. Like when he strips Bolton of his security access, I think that's a good thing. When he strips John Brennan of his security, that's a good thing. Every time I hear news, I always have Whitney Webb in my ear, so I'm always like, don't get too excited about this, but celebrate a little bit. That's kind of how I live my life, and that's kind of where it is. Here's the whole thing, man. I live in LA. I live in the heart of all of it, and I do believe that there are some people within the comedy community who maybe aren't comfortable things I'm saying and doing. I've been thinking a lot about this today when I was talking to myself, and they're not comfortable with it, and that's okay. I get it, but all I have to say is it's all going to come out. Everything's coming out. Regardless of what you think of Twitter, and there is like a dark side of Twitter data collection, is it hurling towards everything in one app? Again, what we hear from Whitney Webb saying all the time, it has become, in my humble opinion, the ultimate town square where you introduce an idea and you instantly get to find out whether that's a good idea or a bad idea. It is, to me, one of the greatest transfer of data and information between users I've ever seen in my life, and it's very important. And because of that, I think you're going to see things that maybe were uncomfortable for people to talk about in the past are going to be acceptable now, regardless of if they want to stop it or not. Yeah. I mean, those are good points. I think the sub-stack Twitter combo for an independent writer is pretty much amazing, and you can feel fairly censorship resistant. I have colleagues, you know, we have podcasting colleagues that would be wringing my neck for saying such a thing because they've already been kicked off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, that's a thorny thing, but I definitely think you are kind of right. I prefer text, so I'm not really on Instagram a lot. I'm not doing TikTok very often. And the best censorship-free-ish platform that's text-based is threads on Twitter. You see some amazing threads. And speaking of Whitney Webb, because I was going to ask about her, she's recently been getting attacked as a professional complainer and being blackpilled because she's not optimistic about the situation. But the PayPal mafia stuff, or broligarchs, as your most recent guest Jason Bassler called them, this is where she's focused as well. These tech bros largely involved in all the big companies. They're very cozy in this administration. Peter Thiel, Elon, David Sachs, who's now the crypto and AI czar. Those jobs should kind of be separated out, I would think. But there's like 10 other names from co-founders of Yelp and YouTube and Sequoia Capital. And this seems like the perfect group of people to implement a technocracy, wouldn't you say? 100%. I've said this, man. You know, and I'm sure you've heard it before, but basically, it's not my saying, but our comfort and convenience is going to lead to our slavery. The more convenient everything gets, you know, it's like I do pre-check when I fly. And they basically take a picture of my face every time I fly. But it saves me that giant line. And recently, I went to Steve Ballmer's new arena in Los Angeles for the Clipper games. And you can either wait in line and give them their ticket, or they can scan your face and you just walk right in and there's no line, no wait. And they literally go, hey, Sam, welcome to the arena. And you're like, whoa, that's crazy. So, there is that out there. And in the words of the great Bill Burr, these nerds are trying to kill us. And it's interesting to me because, to me, there's no good billionaires, right? Everyone keeps waiting for a billionaire to come and save us. To make a billion dollars, you got to kind of dance a dance, right? But I just feel that what we're seeing coming down the pike is this giant enslavement through digital everything. When I hear that Trump is going to get rid of the Fed, and I'm like, let's go! Get rid of the Fed! And then Greg Reese is like, yeah, they're just going to replace it with a carbon tax. I'm like, can I just enjoy these moments just a tiny bit? Yes, I am kind of of two minds. I want the truth, but the truth sometimes takes a lot of the hope out of things. But if you're putting your hope in one of the two parties, you're going to be disappointed every time. And I do want to celebrate the small wins. I think one of the strategies here is to overwhelm everybody, overwhelm the media, overwhelm the people with things like the Gulf of America and plastic straws. This whole thing about Canada being the 51st state, it's all jokey. And silly and fun, but haven't we been worried about the North American Union and them doing an EU thing with us and Canada and Mexico forever? So maybe don't fall for it just because it's phrased as, oh, the 51st state, that'll be fun and silly. No, it's a step towards a program that I thought was something we wanted to avoid. We want decentralization across the board. And I do agree about the march towards the technocracy, but they only really care about a couple of things. They'll throw us bones all day, all this stupid shit, but they only care about a couple of things. And if enslavement through technocracy is coming, what is there to celebrate? But you mentioned Greg Reese, and he did make an interesting point recently. He said, it couldn't be more clear to me. The digital AI system is being installed. The old system is being liquidated. Politics is theater to calmly steer the herd. And then I saw some comments following that up with the old system being liquidated applies to winding down the Epstein diddy blackmail networks and instead turning that over to the tech bros and a digital version. And I have been saying this. When you have the digital means, you don't have to actually blackmail anybody. You don't have to have a tape of me and you doing something unsavory. Well, AI could make that tape, but we don't even have to be in the tape. If we have certain kinds of tapes on our hard drive, we go to jail for life and we're seeing more people like Steven Paddock's brother. It's like, oh, he had the kiddie porn on his hard drive and it's like, okay, so now nothing he might want to say matters because you've just shut him up as a pedo. I mean, I'm being honest with you. I'm really close to wanting to get off my computer at all because that is an option of them putting in a manual. Once you get stuck with that, you're kind of tagged, right? And you're kind of done. I think you're right on that. I think that's where they're moving to. People have talked about that. Are they killing off the CIA? Are they killing off the FBI because Palantir can do it much easier? I mean, we talk about everyone's like, oh, dude, manufacturing jobs are going away. Well, what about intelligence jobs? If AI could just do an intelligence job, maybe the white collar jobs are going away quicker than the blue collar jobs. Right. That liquidation term is right. A lot of people who are on the left are the ones who are hyper paranoid. Like you say, paranoid is healthy. So if you are on the left, the only positive thing I see with all the meltdowns and everything is they're watching really intently. And it's pretty true when they say that you're seeing them root out all these positions. A lot of the money waste. Sure, that's great. But rooting out a lot of positions and we could call it government bloat. But this is also resistance. This is the checks and the balances. I mean, the executive orders that have been launched. It is kind of dictatorial, even if you like some of the things. I think so many people have seen the gridlock for so long that they're like, you know what? If it takes a fucking dictator just to get through the goddamn gridlock, I guess that's where we're at because the system is broken. Yeah, I mean, again, I always say this. If you get to a point where you're enjoying or you're okay with them using something against somebody you don't like, just know they'll use that tool against you eventually. A great example is how they sold everybody on AIDS, right? You know, it's like once they establish, hey, this is a gay man disease and everybody accepts it, they got you. Once you accept it's a gay man's disease and everyone's like, oh, dude, these gays are getting AIDS. And then they're like, oh, yeah, this chick, she's straight. She got AIDS, too. Now they got you captured. So that's my whole opinion about like the Israeli pager situation. Like everybody is celebrating this pager thing. They just don't even realize what it means. Because once you're okay for Israel to use it against the terrorists, which I find hilarious, you know, the terrorists who are in their own homes on their own land are the terrorists. You blow them up and everyone celebrate. They'll come back and use it. Was it Sean Hutchinson? Is that the journalist's name who was like flying through La Brea over Melrose and he hit a tree and died? I mean, and then right after the pager thing, that Tesla truck blow up, which everyone said he had a bomb on there. But hey, man, that seems super convenient. So you've got to really watch yourself when you're okay on kind of selling out your morals and your stances for something to get done that you like against something you don't like. Yes, that's a great point. And I would throw that out to the people who like what Trump is doing, because with this dictatorial approach, this executive order, everything bypass Congress approach, you may like it when he does it, but now a precedent is set for the next guy and you might not like it when the next guy does it. When he implements Project Stargate and we have this half a billion dollar or half a trillion dollar, it's $500 billion AI infrastructure grid. Well, whose hand is on that lever at all times? That's why decentralization is the way always. So I wanted to ask you about this. I heard you say on a recent show that you have a good friend who is considered to be one of the celebrity porn tape brokers. Is that right? Yeah. Kevin Blatt is his name. Okay. We're just dropping first and last. Okay. Oh, he doesn't care. He goes by. He called me up the other day about a celebrity porno tape. I can't say who it is, but it's a very big name that has been in the news recently. What movie are they in? They're not in a movie. It's not a movie star or anything like that. I'll tell you off air. I can't say on air, but it's super interesting. Yeah. So the whole thing is if you get a tape, let's say you hook up with a celebrity, you go to him, you try to sell it or you try to get him back. It's interesting to me because I've always asked them like, how are you not doing revenge porn? If it involves a woman and you're trying to sell it, there's laws called revenge porn, but if it involves a man, it just seems like nobody cares. Like the revenge porn angle doesn't cover that. So he brokered the Paris Hilton porn tape. He brokered the Kim Kardashian porn tape as well. God. And the Chelsea Handler one. I saw the Chelsea Handler one as well. I believe the Chelsea Handler one. I think the story there is, didn't she turn it in as part of her reel, part of her talent reel to get a job? Listen, I, I, I'm not a fan of Chelsea Handler. I Chelsea Handler was the first person I knew as like a friend that became famous and acting like they didn't know you. It was like my first time in Hollywood feeling that where I was like, Oh, you act like you don't know. It was like weird. Now I just like, okay, who cares? But I'll say this. I give her respect on the game plan because it was like really, really like ingenuity for the time. And it's like, you got to understand, we all didn't have these laptops with these editing things. So someone had to edit that for where it was her doing standup in her living room with her giant Jersey hair talking about waiting tables. And then I don't know where there's this weird cut and it's, I don't know how much you want to get into it, but I don't care. I mean, I'm not judging her either. If you are trying to make it, you go for some shock humor. I remember in the early, early days when I had no idea how I would do anything, I would just say and do some really outrageous shit. I'm lucky. The internet wasn't around five years earlier because you're trying to make an impact. And when you're young, you try to make an impact usually through doing something extremely shocking. So I'm not judging. It's just a thing I heard. Yeah. So, I mean, like it's basically cuts to her hooking up with a guy that looks like Jean Claude Van Damme, some Euro kind of cuts off his face, but you could tell he's European by his accent and he just finishes and then it cuts back and she's doing another set in her living room. So, someone had to edit that. She sent it out to everybody. And the beginning of me and Hollywood not getting along was I got asked to, and it was probably the dumbest thing I've ever done. Because it probably cost myself hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars, because that Chelsea Lately show launched a thousand careers, you know, made people instant headliners. You passed on it? No, I went to the showcase with her and her boss that she'd slept with to get the gig. And I did jokes about sleeping your way to the top. Ah. I was so angry at her for like acting like she didn't know me. And I just thought, that's the story of Sam Triplett. Well, this porn broker, I've heard you say that he's got some pretty high level outrageous tapes. He's got RFK and JFK double teaming a chick and Walt Disney doing pedo stuff. He doesn't have the tapes. He knows the guy that had the tapes as collateral to keep himself safe. But he would tell me about it. Wow. Yeah. I mean, 100%. Well, if you go into the Roman Polanski, Sharon Tate stuff, it seems like that was one of those little hives of activity. And they were filming a lot of black male porn there. And that is why the place was chosen with the Manson thing. I heard that the cops mentioned that stuff and then it kind of went away and no one really talked about it anymore. But it seems like that was a Roman Polanski operation. He got in trouble for being with an underage girl. He split the scene. I think that was what the Playboy Mansion was all about. Hugh Hefner was open about saying it's all on tape. We have the wild parties. I mean, he's really just a proto diddy. He's a white diddy because he's having the big outrageous parties, putting a lot of temptations in your face, filming everything, and then making suggestions about your career, let's say. Yeah, yeah. Well, I agree with that. And it's interesting to me because, you know, I am now in a place where, like, I'm trying to get spiritual. I love Jesus. I'm working hard on it. And there's a lot of push on that whole thing on the internet right now. What is real? What's not real? But one thing I don't want to get into, which is always kind of how the pendulum of politics go, is like whenever it starts to go the other way, like the most extreme people pop up, say the most outrageous stuff, sends it back the other way, the pendulum. So my whole opinion is this, dude, I don't judge people on sexuality, okay? As long as you're not hurting people, and particularly children, I don't care what you do. And that might upset some people on the far, far right because they want to judge people. But ultimately, I'm not God. And the reason I really do do that is because once we demonize sexuality, you allow blackmail to happen. And we just really start getting into how many of these presidents, these people in position of power are closeted gays. And it just seems like closeted gays are really angry people. And they just seem to do some really mean, evil shit because they can't get out. And I also do believe I've lost a couple of friends of mine because they couldn't come to grips with their sexuality. So I'm against all blackmail, as long as it doesn't involve children, meaning whatever you do sexually, as long as you're not hurting people again, and particularly children, I don't care what you do. I'm tired of hearing about do what you want. I also don't need to hear about it, okay? That's the other part of it. Like, we need to get back to where, like, we honor social contracts, where it's like, if I'm at the food court, I don't need to hear about your pronouns or whatever you like to do. And it's also, Greg, and you probably know this, it's not just gay. Like, I don't want to hear from straight people either. Like, I don't want to hear what you're doing sexually. Like, when we go, hey, man, let's get this cultural Marxism out of schools, we're not like, and if you're a teacher, you can go and talk about all the people you hooked up with at Dave and Buster's over the weekend. You know, if you're a straight, no, I don't want any of that because I'm sure you know this. If you study the history of sex ed, it's very dark. It's off, like, Kinsey or Kingsley or whatever that guy's name is. Kinsey, yeah, Kinsey and Kinsey. I mean, and all the super dark stuff that guy did in the name of science is actually gross that people have his name on their university. So I'm against all that. Yeah, I agree. It shouldn't really matter as long as you're not hurting anybody. But let me ask you about the Hollywood machine in general. You're way more into the belly of the beast. You know, you've lived in L.A. for a long time. I am really curious about agents because it seems like. They really are the handlers. When Kanye went on his thing about that Harley Pasternak guy, and then you see all the people that he's worked with, it's like agents, managers, trainers. There's a whole infrastructure, a whole team that seems to work for every studio, or they just have these interlocking rings. And it seems as if they really do control everyone who makes it, everything we see. To what degree does that seem to be true to you? I think that's everything. I think that, you know, I had a friend of mine. She really blew up and she hasn't done my show in a long time, but one time she did a show and she showed up and she had three people there with her. And I found that really weird. Like they were her agents, but I'm like, why are your agents at a comedy show right now? And I think they were her handlers at the time. And she was talking about brainwashing and all this stuff on stage. So I think it is important. Like, listen, you know, I've been at the comedy store for probably 27 years now. I don't go there as much as I used to. Every 20 years, it kind of resets itself and there's a new generation there. And I think they're super funny. A lot of them, I don't necessarily agree with them on what's going on comedically, but that's okay. I had a great run there and it was a lot of fun. But I've seen people come in with this edginess and there's a couple of comics I've seen come in with super edgy, call it like they see it. And then they start to get a little heat and their act just flips. And suddenly it's like super clean, super simple corporate acts. And that's kind of how it goes. And then you see people who actually get their dreams come true. And then they start to change even more. You know, they start like going on the road, bringing diversity with them, checking all the boxes because they want a virtue signal. And you just see it happen more and more and more. Now, I don't hate them for it because to come to Hollywood and actually achieve that dream of movies and television and doing sets, you know, our specials on all the streaming that's a dream, right? That's a dream. And you want to protect the dreams all the time. But I see it happen all the time. So to answer your question, yes, the agents and the managers are very much power brokers on who can make it and who can't make it. Right. And I hear people like Tim Dillon making jokes all the time about now that he's signed with so-and-so and so-and-so, he has these opportunities he didn't have before. Now he's on Netflix shows. He's in major movies. He's in Joker 2 and it's just like nothing bad. I mean, talented people should do things like it makes sense, but it just seems like there's a lot of talented people. And what is that difference maker that gets someone brought into the inner circle of these agencies? I mean, do you think it's just being compromised? Do you think that's a element of it? It's definitely being compromised on paper because I've been offered contracts just to do really minor stuff and it's like, we have to own everything you do. We have to check what you're doing on the higher side chats because you could damage what we're doing. And I can't sign anything like that. So I've never been a part of anything, but at a base level, you know, there's a lot of people signing those contracts. It's the only way you get into studio type stuff. And if you sign those contracts, they kind of have you by the balls. Maybe they push it a little more and a little more. I don't know. You know, any stories from, uh, you can hold back names, but I'm sure you hear about this. Well, what I will say is this, it depends on how you come in, right? Like if you come in and you're kind of brought up from the bottom all the way up, there's a lot more control on that. But if you're someone like, say like Tim Dillon, who is this, I consider comedically one of the greatest podcasters, if not the best comic podcaster out there. Yeah. I love them. We can have debates on like Theo Vaughn or Nick Mullen is another one who I think is, who is a great example of probably a guy that doesn't want to play ball. I think when someone like Tim Dillon blows up, I think he comes in so big with such a following, they need him. He represents credibility to them. So like the industry needs a Tim Dillon to give their product credibility. So I think he has more wiggle room to do whatever he wants. But if you're brought up through the system, then they control you. And then when you want to leave the system, that's a whole discussion on like what happened with Louis CK, even like Michael Jackson and Prince is like, they wanted to leave the system to do their own thing. And when the system blows you up, it gets really mad when you try to leave the reservation. So that does in fact happen. I mean, I've seen people when scandals break out, they instantly drop somebody. And I've seen people ride or die with people. It just, I guess it depends on the person. But listen, I was doing a show. I had a very famous comic come on. They have controversy. They sat down next to another comic and we were about to take a picture. And that other comic got up and walked away. Didn't want to be in the picture with them. It's their brand. Again, they're living their dreams. They want to protect it. I totally understand. But there is, I don't know if it's force or you just learn to do it. It's just, there is conformity. And the difference between the haves and the have-nots, I think when it comes to Hollywood is, can they control you? Do you understand the game? Do you understand what you have to do to thrive in the game? Can you play the game of Hollywood? And some of that involves blackmail at the very highest levels. And some of it is just, how much will you conform? You know, we can get into even when you expand it even farther, like living in the big city versus living in the tiny city. The bigger your city, the more you have to conform to groupthink so you get promoted in your corporation, right? That's why they want to herd us into these giant cities. So yeah, you've got to compromise. You've got to bend over backwards. You've got to be like, yeah, you know, three-year-olds should totally get sex changes because the amount of people necessary to get a gig, the amount of green lights you need is insane. So if you have one person who caught a tweet that they didn't like, red light, you don't get the gig. So you have to conform, conform, conform. So yes, that is it. I don't know if everything ends with a P. Diddy party or starts with a P. Diddy party, but I do believe there is compromise whether you choose to or not. Yeah. I mean, it seems clear. And earlier you mentioned the USAID thing, the USAID thing, and a lot of that relates to this because you get the celebrities to do the agenda-driven videos. The agency says, hey, we're going to have you all come in. We just need to see you all say the same phrase, and then we're going to cut it all together, put it before the next Mission Impossible movie, and bada bing, bada boom. And I think people have heard about much of it, like $2 million for sex changes in Guatemala, $1.5 million for diversity in Serbia, $2.5 million for electric vehicles in Vietnam, millions for EcoHealth Alliance, and hundreds of millions of dollars to fund irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan. But then this is where these wires cross, funding for over 6,200 journalists across 707 media outlets and 279 media NGOs, including major organizations like Politico, which, if I'm not mistaken, what I saw with Politico is they had $8 million in subscriptions that were coming from this public money. Like, you could just sit someone at a table and say, sign up for a bunch of Politico accounts until your fingers bleed. And that's basically what happened. Apparently, if I'm not mistaken, I think it was Politico, but they couldn't make payroll the first time this happened. Like, it really did stop the gears of that machine, but also the Associated Press and BBC. 90% of the reporting coming out of the Ukraine was supported by this program. It's insane. And so I was listening to No Agenda, and I was reminded that the first time I heard of USAID, USAID, was with John Perkins in Confessions of an Economic Hitman. I know you've heard of the book. It's a conspiracy staple. Yeah, I love it. He named USAID as the funding arm for a lot of things that they were doing. And this is right from the Wikipedia page for the book. It says, Perkins describes the role of an economic hitman as follows. Economic hitmen are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars. They funnel money from the World Bank and USAID and other foreign aid organizations into the coffers of huge corporations in the pockets of a few wealthy families who control the planet's natural resources. Their tools include fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoffs, extortion, sex, and murder. They play a game as old as Empire, but one that has taken on new and terrifying dimensions during this time of globalization. And this book is 20 years old. I'm glad something's being done about this. This is one of those areas where, yeah, you want to see this fat get chewed. You want to see this stuff slashed away. But it's happening a little fast. Well, it's happening a little fast. The question is, why are they doing this, right? But you have to celebrate it, man. I've always said this. I don't know if you would agree with this, but I always say conspiracy leads to spirituality, right? Eventually you go, you know, they're lying to us about this. What else are they lying to? And then I think eventually, for me, it gets to God, right? They're lying to us about God and our connection with God and all that stuff. So I've always said this, that the Fed, which is Babylonian money magic, I've been saying this forever, is just sorcery. You know, it starts off as it's backed by gold. Then it gets off gold. It goes to Saudi oil, which is a whole nother thing. You get into why is it on Saudi oil? I mean, they always act like the Saudis are doing us a favor. In reality, we're controlling Islam by completely buying everything from Saudi Arabia. That's part of the sorcery as well. And then they get off of oil. Now we're off oil. Now it's backed by absolutely nothing. It is literally funny money. And what they're doing is they're bribing everybody. Castro used to talk about this. They're bribing everybody with fake money. They're buying and selling everybody with this made up money. So it gets to the point where it's like there is a reality, which is God, whatever you believe in God, that is the reality. It's love, it's your family, it's your community and all that stuff. And then there has been this kind of projected fake reality, false reality on top of the real reality. So when you go, hey, man, let's have drag queens read the children. You go, that doesn't make sense to me. Something doesn't sit right. That doesn't seem like a logical thing. That's what we're talking about. The Federal Reserve through USAID completely and utterly astroturfed this entire movement to detach from God, create chaos, create cultural chaos, whether you want to call it cultural Marxism or whatever. It's been funding all of it. None of it is real. So when you go, why are we doing this? It doesn't make any sense to me. That's the whole thing. They're energy vampires. They feed off this. They don't want us to pay attention to what they're really doing, which is using our Federal Reserve to basically fund everything you hate in the world. And again, it gets into this thing where it's like, did the Roman Empire end or did it just become a church? Did the British Empire end or did it just become a bank? And is the U.S. Empire dying and it just becoming a military apparatus? That's what we're seeing happen. So this USAID was used to fund everything you don't like in the world. That's my humble opinion. Preach, brother. I am with you. And the dollar, it's covered in sigils. It's been normalized. We take it for granted. There's a hidden little owl on it. There's an eye on the pyramid on it. There's all kinds of Latin on it. The structure of the dollar is probably a part of why the money trick works. Backed by gold, now backed by nothing. Like, it's a bait and switch, and I think part of it worked is because it is like a negative black alchemy sort of thing. And one of the biggest strikes against me when I get a one-star review, when I get someone canceling, it's always that I love your show, but you hate Christians. And it's like, I don't hate Christians. I grew up in Missouri. Most of my family and friends are Christian. I'm just not one. Like, most of my guests are Christian. It's okay. It's fine. I have criticisms, but I definitely don't hate them. I would have no friends or family if I hated them. But it's just that I think the Jesus thing is so seeped in power and empire. You got guys like Joe Atwell, who wrote Caesar's Messiah, who thinks that the Flavian dynasty wrote up the story of Jesus. Here's a Jew who was a peace-loving hippie who stood up to the Roman Empire, and look what the fuck happened. So get in line. You know, I could see that narrative being possibly true. So at the same time, I say, just to use less loaded terms, like God, I'm fine with a God term. You can definitely look at the elite and see a lot of anti-God stuff. Why are they trying to manifest the book of Revelations? The stuff with the mark of the beast, and you can't transact. I mean, why does the road look like it's going towards that sort of stuff? The death over life. Even something as simple as processed foods. It's like they want all the food made in a factory because it's dead substance. It's chips. It's crackers. You know, you can't have living bread, cheese, raw cheese and all that stuff. But they're making this stuff in dark factories when food is supposed to be a container for light energy. And Rudolf Steiner would have said there's something spiritual about eating an apple that is not there when you're eating a cracker or a hostess Twinkie. So like even that you can apply a spiritual lens to, a layer to say everywhere you look at what's promoted, it's death over life and the geoengineering thing. It's in every little area. So I'm definitely not Christian. I won't say I am. I don't need that kind of stuff, but I see some of those angles and look at the Nephilim stuff, the fallen angel story. That seems to add up. Like, I don't deny that there's some interesting shit there. Yeah. What can you say about it? It's interesting. And, you know, you bring up great points. Listen, again, I've arrived to Christ and to belief at a very late stage in my life. Okay. I've done everything a thousand times and I go, when was I happier? I'm happier right now. I don't know what the answer is. I just know I do certain things. I feel better about myself. And when I do these negative things, I just feel like my soul take a beating and all that stuff. I would be a liar. If I would tell you that if I believe everything else is manipulated, then I don't think that these religions are manipulated. You brought up Nephilim, but that brings us to fallen angels, okay? If you want to get into Christianity or the Abrahamic religions, we see fallen angels in Hinduism, in Vedic astrology. They talk about this stuff. So that story's something. I recently had a conversation with a good friend of mine that I love with all my heart. And I'm not going to say his name, but we had a conversation. He said he doesn't vote because he knows God has everything, God has control and he puts everybody where he wants. And that seems to be a big, when you go with like what Adam Green says about religion, he often talks about how it's got this kind of Q effect of pacifying people, right? Like, hey, don't worry about it. This guy has it. And there is something to that. But why draw the line at voting? Why not apply that same logic to eating? Oh, I don't go to the fridge and put food in my mouth because if God wanted food in my mouth, he would put it in my mouth. No, I understand what you're saying. That logic goes to ridiculous degrees. Like, I think that if you even are Christian, it's like that line of God helps people who help themselves is probably something to keep in mind. I just know this when I get into like you bringing up the revelation stuff and everything that, you know, when you take a look at Israel, right, I personally believe that Israel is just a satellite colony of the British Empire. That's what I believe. I think the story of the Belfort Doctrine is just theater for the masses to make them think that England gave it up. But I do really do believe that whoever it is, these dark force entities that are running everything, they just want to control the land bridge that is Israel. But the way you get that going is to create a religious narrative that you give both sides to fight. It's the best way is to get control. What you want is to create religious fanatics or fanatics at all to do your dirty work. You could even say that's what China did with the revolution was, you know, get the colored revolution to do all the dirty work for Mao. So that's kind of what they do. At the end of the day, all I know is this, is when I go towards abundance, I go towards spirituality. I'm a happier guy. All my problems in my life tend to stem from when I get into self and I start to like do things that maybe aren't in God's best. God says is the best. I don't know what this is. I don't know what Jesus is. I think Jesus is a cheat code sent by the creator down to tell us how to thrive in this realm, this energy realm. And when you're doing positive energy, positive energy comes to you. When you're doing negative energy, negative energy is coming to you. That's what I'm talking about. When you're living in low vibrational, like drugs, sex, all that stuff, to me, that's where you see things start to go off the rails. Like when I was doing drugs a lot, all my friends were out there working their ass off. And it's almost like, you know, that whole fable about the grasshopper and the ant. I'm out there hanging and banging, setting high scores in the games. No one else is playing while they're all focusing on the career. They're all playing theaters now. And I'm doing very well. I'm very blessed. I can't complain. God was whoever God was blessed to give me a late, late, late career. I'm very thankful for that. But when I get into the low vibrational, whatever you want to call it, my life goes off the rails. And when I do high vibrational, it seems to thrive a little better. Yeah, I agree with that. And that is kind of a universal template. I don't think you even need to know what the Bible is to recognize that in life, whether you're an indigenous tribe or someone who's more conventionally religious. Like it does seem to be energy seems to be ubiquitous. And yes, there's a magnetic pole to good and bad energy and good and bad self-talk and all that. And I think the conspiracy minded person's trajectory or evolution is first you learn some things, then you want to tell everybody about them because you think if only more people knew the world would change. And then you realize how brainwashed the people you are know because you're like, wow, you won't even watch loose change. Dude, we've been going to school together since kindergarten. I've never heard you just say you wouldn't even like watch a documentary. You might disagree with it, but like, I can't get you to watch this just because the suggestion that 9-11 isn't what you were told triggers you. That's strange. Like I had that experience. And then you realize that like a multi-level marketing salesman, you don't want to just be pitching your friends and family nonstop or they'll just go away. And then you realize, man, I guess the system has always been broken. It's not for a lack of people understanding. And then you just implement the things you learn in your own life. And spirituality is a part of that. Me moving to Florida, trying to grow some fruit trees and get some chickens is a part of that. But I did want to bring this up. So recently you interviewed Ryan Gable, who brought up something I had forgotten, but MAGA means witch in Latin. And then you got Trump always going on about a MAGA witch hunt. And this is just other elements of that religious layer of the conspiracy. And then I recently heard Joseph Farrell talking about Doge saying it is a Phoenician Italian word for ruler of the most serene Republic of Venice. It means Duke, a new kind of nobility, a Venetian nobility. And it's like, yeah, all these words are always coded. And then we see these rituals. I wanted to bring this up too. Have you had Diana Posolka on the show, the author of American Cosmic? You probably know her. She gets brought up. She's a scholar of religion who got brought into the UFO circles. Listen to this. So one of my favorite ritual things to talk about is NASA stuff. I love the NASA stuff. And Diana Posolka was on the Sean Ryan show. I've got questions about that guy. Why isn't he shadow banned? No, I do. I've been teeing off on that dude a lot lately. Yes. Very military heavy guests and ex-CIA people just ready to spill the tea on the government. But anyway, Diana Posolka gave some new details. I don't remember her saying before, but here's a quote. Our space program today even has some really interesting rituals associated with it. When it does certain launches at Cape Canaveral, maybe not all of them, but the ones that Tyler, which is the guy she always talks about, his real name seems to be Tim Taylor, who she tweeted might be Elon's SpaceX handler and then deleted the tweet apparently. But this anonymous person that led her through the Invisible College, when he was involved in some of these rituals, he said they had images of Roman gods and goddesses that they put on the rockets. They would use Latin on their mission patches. And they would also have specific rituals that they would do sometimes involving U.S. presidents. They would position the presidents at a certain point where astrological events would happen. They would just be positioned there. So, you know, they're like, stand here, Mr. Obama. And he would stand there with his wife and look in this direction. And it was part of the whole thing. And there are photos. He has photos of all that. So this is obviously some type of ritual. And I don't know why they're doing it. I just know I'm a scholar of religion and I know a ritual when I see it. Even he didn't understand it. So I noticed they were using Latin and I noticed it wasn't medieval Latin. It was like this particular form of Latin. It seems like it's Roman theology. So, you know, they're using the images of Roman gods. And I would ask him, I say, why are you using the images of Roman gods? Why are you putting them on your mission patches? And also utilizing Latin phrases from that time period. I mean, you're sending it up into space. Who up in space is going to read Latin? And his answer was, our sponsors. Dang, dude. What does that mean? That's what I'm telling you, man. And that's what I always say, regardless of what you think of God or Jesus, the dark side, if we believe in duality of light and dark, the dark infers the light. Maybe that's what we believe. But this is it, man. Like, I am totally in to hidden history and the occult within our government. And, like, that's my opinion, man. It's all right there. 9-11, all the symbols and numerology that's involved with that can't help you think that it was an occult event. And they have to play this game. And sometimes I'm like, we're blessed that they do have these rules, like revelation of the method. Because, like, they're always giving away their secrets. And we go, look at what they're doing. Look what they're doing. But for some reason, that's a rule. I don't know why they made it a rule. It's a blessing. But, yeah, I do believe that all of this stuff at the highest level is elite occult. And they have to play that game. Yeah, I just was really shocked she would reveal all that. But it makes so much sense to me that the politicians, they might be in positions that are important, but they're not the real string pullers. They don't know the occult mechanisms being invoked. So it really is just, like, stand here, look west. Directionality is always really important in rituals. So that stuck out to me. I remember a video when Obama was president of him going to Stonehenge. And there was something like that going on in the footage. You can probably find it on YouTube. They're like, hey, stand over here. And it just seemed highly ritualized. And he didn't know what he was doing. He was just going with the motion. So I don't know. I've just been thinking about that phrase a lot. Our sponsors. Well, let me ask you a question real quick. Yes. Supposedly, every president does, like, kind of a ceremony to a god. Have you ever heard that before they get sworn in? Yeah, I've heard that. But I haven't heard very many details about it. Yeah, I haven't either. And there's just also another thing. We had a guest on. He was talking about Borman, the Nazi Martin Borman, and how nobody knows about that guy. You know, it's so crazy to me how he was basically like a Dick Cheney to Hitler. No one knows his name. Yeah. You know, actually, I don't want to interrupt you. But Joseph Farrell, I believe, says Berman was Dick Cheney without the charm. Which is crazy, right? That's the craziest thing ever. But, you know, when you talk about these rituals, supposedly there is a hotel in Latin America where every president has to go. And you have to go, why are they going down there? What is the purpose of that? And, you know, there was all the Nazis down there and the occult and all that stuff. So it's so deep. And people don't even understand it. They're fighting over red and blue. And, oh, my God, the halftime show. It was good. It was bad. They don't even understand what they're up against. And that is like this occult darkness to me and this black nobility at the highest levels. Yes. And I was going to ask you about this on the subject of Nazis. You did a recent show, The United States vs. Nick Alviar. And this Nick Alviar guy, you know, he got arrested at January 6th. But he's written and produced and created a lot of documentaries. He's got celebrity cloning. Paul is dead, escaping the simulation, Tartaria. And then you saw Europa and you said, Europa, you're getting dangerous now, buddy. I don't even know what Europa is other than a moon of one of the planets out there. I think it's one of Jupiter's moons. But what is the Europa thing that is dangerous? I believe as I've looked it up, it has something to do with Nazi occultism to a degree. But tell me what's dangerous that he's tapping into right there. Well, when you get into Europa, it's basically like Jew world order stuff. That starts to get super dangerous. What I mean by super dangerous is like, you're going to get censored or ran off or something like that at this moment, even though I think this story is going to be discussed at some point. Again, I'm not Jew world order guy. I believe that like the Zionists, the communists, the Freemasons at the highest levels, they're all middle management to this higher group of people that really, truly run everything. But when you start getting into Europa, you know, then you start to get into like the Jews do this and the Jews do that. You know, my girlfriend's Jewish. Mitzi Shore is Jewish. Jesus is Jewish. I love Jews. I do think that everything, once you get higher up the power structure, you get more and more compromised. The average person on the ground is just living their life, right? Or as Owen Benjamin calls them, deli Jews. You know, you go down to the deli, grab a bagel. There's a Jewish guy there. What's he running? You know, it's like, I have a very good friend of mine, Jewish. He was a pizza delivery guy. And I think we can get lost in that blaming, blaming, blaming. But I will also tell you that the censorship or these orders Trump is doing with his anti-Semitism stuff is probably just to cause chaos amongst everybody. But again, I don't believe in protected classes. I don't think anyone's a sacred cow. I don't think there's any group that shouldn't be discussed about. I'm doing jokes about it on stage. And, you know, sometimes when I'm on stage, the adrenaline's going. I think I'm bombing. And then I go back and listen. And there's big laughs going on. But I was talking about, you know, it's like if we had a basketball team full of genociders, OK, like Hitler would be coming off the bench. He wouldn't even be starting. He wouldn't even be in the starting lineup if you really broke it down. Right. Which is the whole thing. It's like, why can't we talk about the subject? Because sometimes I think people in Hollywood see me tweeting certain things that are like anti what Israel's doing to, you know, the Palestinians. And they might get upset with that. And that's OK. But I'm just going to tell you that eventually it's all coming out. No matter what you want to say, it's all going to come out. So I don't believe in protect class. I also don't believe in blaming an entire group of people. I wish we had the nuances to blame individuals. Again, it goes back to when you're talking about your friends and they don't even want to see loose change. There's just some people that aren't capable of even having that discussion. And you can't really save them. They have to save themselves. And that's kind of the whole thing. But going back to your story about Europa, when you hear the Jews, the Jews, when I hear that, I go, you're just causing chaos at this point. And you've got people that are Jew world order and stuff like that. To me, you know, there's people who like think Islam is a manipulated religion. Obviously, there's people that think Christianity is a manipulated religion. But you don't think that Judaism could be a manipulated religion? When you look at the Talmud and it's the Babylonian oral history of the rabbis, anytime you see Babylonian, just know there's another group out there that has, in my opinion, influenced this group. And I was on Rogan talking about the Statue of Liberty and how, like, I believe these or asterism gods, these old occult gods want to come out and play. They're tired of being in the background. They want to be worshipped. They want to dance. They want sacrifice. They want to come out. So that's what I think is at stake right now. And that's what Europa is basically about. That Hitler is a good guy, which I find absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, I said that, too. You know, sometimes there's no good guy. Sometimes the story. Yes, written by the winners. The Nazis didn't lose. The Germans lost. The Nazis went on. You know, there's a lot of that. But it doesn't mean that you have to be so black and white as to say, good guy, bad guy. Sometimes it's just two mobs going at it and one wins. And so the other one gets demonized to hell and the other one just kind of slips off. And that's kind of what happens. But yeah, there's 12 tribes of Israel. I think to say Jew isn't specific enough. You got Kazarian banking families. I'm OK with saying that. I like that, too, man. There's people that don't think the Kazarians are real. I go, it totally makes sense. Like when you study Kazarians, dude, and you go back far enough, they're Turks, right? And then you study how Israel never called out the Turks for the Armenian genocide. That kind of lines up to me. The fact that Israel is basically trying to control an area which is a land bridge, which is the easiest way to get goods from Asia and Africa to Europe. Kazarians were known for controlling trade routes. I mean, it all lines up. Yeah, I actually had to look it up because I do believe that the area that is Ukraine was a Kazarian empire in the sixth century. So there's definitely old tribal games going on when it comes to geopolitics that they don't advertise. So absolutely true. Sabbatee and Frankis was the term that David Icke used when he was here. And everyone's like, these are all just dog whistles for Jew. And I'm like, it's kind of the opposite. They're more specific terms to try to get at something that is an aspect of the control pyramid without looping in the Delhi Jews, as you might say. Yeah, 100 percent. It's like why they're trying to demonize Zionists. Because people go, OK, we're not going to blame Jews. We're going to blame an ideology, a way of thinking. They're desperately trying to attach it to so they could emotionally blackmail you in to not talking about it. And you're 100 percent correct. They'll demonize Zionism. We'll move on to something else. There will be a discussion and it will happen. And again, you know, when you get back to Twitter, I've said this a thousand times because there's this movement that there's all this Jew hate on Twitter. And I would just say to everybody, compared to what? What are you saying? Are you saying it's unique to Jews? Because it's not. Like, I think everybody on Twitter should be treated like white people on Twitter in 2018, where you could just blame them for everything. All them for everything all the time. I would watch comics I know do a lot of anti-white stuff and just get these humongous retweets and likes to the point that they now have six figure incomes writing on TV shows in Hollywood. So it's not only it wasn't demonized, it's actually encouraged. So my whole thing is like everybody should get called out on their bullshit. Everybody should be allowed to be criticized and everyone should be allowed to be made fun of. And if you don't like that, you're hiding something. That's my opinion. I love Jews. I wouldn't know where my life would be without Jews. I wouldn't even be here without Mitzi Shore. No one would know who Sam Tripoli was outside of my mother and my father if it wasn't for Mitzi Shore's kindness she showed me. And it's like this demonizing. Again, it's with white people. You know, it's like you demonize this entire group of people for the actions of a few. I remember I got in a fight with a buddy of mine who was a pretty, like, dark and edgy comedian. He got mad at me when the whole Wu-Tang thing came out and everyone was like, Asian hate. And he brought up something about, you know, be kind to Asians. And a bunch of my fans went off on him and he was like yelling at me about, hey, how does it feel to have a fan base of white supremacists? I'm like, at least I have a fan base. You know what I'm saying? Right? But we eventually got into it. It's like he was upset because they're blaming Asians for the actions of the Chinese. I go, how is that any different than white people in the U.S. government? And he goes, you know what? You're right. That's my whole thing, dude. This divide and conquer that they do. There's a video out there right now of this very feminine man with weird hooped earrings going at you can't be racist against white people. And I go, isn't that convenient for you that there's a rule that the one group you hate, you're allowed to hate without any consequence? So my whole thing is everybody should be equally made fun of. When you try to protect somebody, it becomes a Streisand effect and people start to look into it. And the more and more you pass laws that you can't talk about certain people, the more and more people are going to look into it. Right, right. I mean, you're creating your own skepticism when you have something like the ADL and these watchdogs making sure no one says anything that even halfway comes close to a criticism of Jews or Israel or anything. The nuance is you should be able to talk about Zionism. You should be able to talk about Israel. That's a government. You should be able to talk about Sabbatean, Frankists and Kazarians or whatever you want to talk about. But when there's an organization shutting down conversations way before they ever even get to nuance, I mean, that creates its own innate skepticism. But that's also a certain kind of power. I forgot who said, look at who you're not allowed to criticize and you'll see who makes the rules. And it is that simple. I think it was Voltaire, right? Or something like that. There you go. So the last thing I want to try to slide in here is just to ask you about the weirdest rabbit holes you've been in lately. I know you had Crow on recently. He's big on the second son thing now. The rabbit hole goes deep. Lizard people are everywhere. Human cloning. But is there anything particularly unique and super deep down there that you're just like, man, that stuck with me? Obviously, we just learn stuff through our guests. But has anybody hit you with a serious wild one lately? Well, lately, I don't know. But yeah, all the time. I mean, it's all the time. Again, we go back to the human vibration. She was talking about JonBenet Ramsey wasn't even real. Yeah, she thinks it was an AI amalgamation, a fake photo of a person that never existed, and that basically everything is just that. And that gets into the sorcery, right? Energy manipulation. Kurt Metzger was talking about Ronald Reagan getting pegged. And I never even thought about that because he's like kind of this cultural icon. But you're like, he's out of California. He's out of L.A. He's at the highest levels of power. Why wouldn't he be in the weird stuff? Right? So how about the fake pictures of the past, what they call Vanilla Skies, where they've like kind of Photoshop way back in the day. Like how long have they had Photoshop and how long they've been manipulating everything? So there's a lot of stuff out there. I enjoy talking to people that bring something super interesting because, you know, I can't imagine you must have heard everything in 15 years. It's got to be exciting to you when you hear a new bit of data. And that's, you know, so when I get to a thousand episodes, I don't think I'll end the show. We'll discuss it. If we've ran our course, if we've. We've talked about everything that needs to get talked about. I mean, we'll see. Spoiler alert. It's definitely possible. You know, how about the final thing that blew my mind? Jim Lee, Kofar Gardner talking about weather manipulation and how they're all beyond direct energy weapons, which is, you know, maybe they want us to believe in direct energy weapons when they just can put. What are those called when it comes to weather? Barometric pressure. Pressure, high pressure, low pressure. You get in that middle place. You throw some black soot in there. You can manipulate energy and stuff like that. Jim Lee is one of the most interesting. Jim Lee and Tover Gardner. But Jim Lee's really blown my mind with some of the stuff he's talking about. Vibrations, radar, sonar, triggering MKUltra people. I've been saying this to everybody, and people are starting to understand it because when I said it, it comes off as crazy. But I do believe they've hardwired sorcery. They've been doing it forever. And these direct energy weapons, your phone reading your thoughts, that's all hardwired sorcery. The problem with sorcery, when you ask somebody to do magic, is can they reproduce it over and over and over again? But I think the thousands of years they've worked on it, they're now there, and they can't reproduce it. Yeah, I think so too. And Jim Lee's great. I've had him on once, probably overdue to do it again, like so many people on the never-ending list. I'm of two minds again. There's a never-ending list of people I'd love to interview or interview again. And then I also am kind of burnt out on doing it. But I'm qualified to do nothing else. I can do nothing else. I'm ride or die. Well, I'm with you. I get told all the time, dude, you're a failed comic, all the time. And like, they just don't know because I know people are struggling out there, and that's a big part of our show, to give them kind of hope. And I'm doing great. I'm very blessed. I don't like getting into that. But I'm only good at one thing, Greg, and that is mass volume of talking shit. That's it. That's literally, I can't act. I'm borderline illiterate. Like, I can't write to save my life. I can read like a motherfucker. I can't write to save my life. I can't network. I'm an isolator. I come from isolators. Oh, I can't network. Yeah, I can put your networking to shame. I'll tell you that right now. You're about all I got. Yeah, I can't network. I can't leave the house. I isolate. I'm a Bedorian. We come from fucking isolating. So what I'm doing right now is probably the best I can do. And I'm very blessed that I am where I am because I'd probably be dead if I wasn't, you know, through either drugs or taking things into my own hands. So I'm very thankful. And I would pray that everyone could live the life that I'm living right now. And, you know, I'm such a big fan of yours. You've been on the show a bunch of times and it's always fun. One of my favorite moments of all time. And even though we've done eight hundred and fifty something episodes, one of the favorite moments of tinfoil has when I told you about building six and you hadn't remembered at that time. And I was like so blown away. And that was a great moment on the show. And, you know, again, you're a big part of the show. You came on early. You gave it like some validity. So I'll always be thankful for that. And I appreciate you having me on the show, buddy. Dude, I'll always be thankful to you as you talk about the orbit that you're on the outer edge of. I'm on the outer edge of your orbit. I think you're bigger, buddy. I do. I really do believe that. Although I got some interesting people that follow me on Twitter and have for years, but I can't put them on blast. That's rude. But yes. So you've always been good to me. Thanks for doing this. Sorry it took so long to make it happen. I tend to work best from a book. I've been waiting for you to put the book out. Okay. Sorry about that. I am going to get AI to write a book. I was going to write a spiritual book, but I realized my spirituality keeps changing. I do have a comic book coming out. The first issue was out. It's called Chaos Twins. It's about my kids and teaching children about conspiracies. I'm doing what's Paranoid American. We're working on animations now. So that and I'm very excited. Check out my special. Why is everybody getting quiet? And then tour dates on SamTriplee.com. Yes. Okay, great. I was going to ask you for the plugs. You're a pro. You've done the dance before. I hear the hounds have been released. The time is now. Thank you, Sam. Take care. I'll see you next time you're on the road in Tampa. All right, buddy. I love you. The power of Christ compels you, people. There it is. Long time coming. Obviously, any THC listener knows that I don't have a lot of podcasting colleagues on unless they do have a book or an in-depth series or something other than interviews. But Sam has been a real mensch. And we've had some fun together. And he's had me on like five times or so. So I just felt like I should return the favor. Most people know that I moved to California, yes, to grow weed for money. But then with the vague idea of going into comedy and the first 20 episodes of THC were me talking with local comedians about conspiratorial topics or at least trying to. It's tough. And the guys I was hanging out with don't even have those kind of interests. But we know that story. And I found my way. And the rest is history. But I got to know Sam a bit after I kind of let all those dreams die. And then some of them came back. And he helped me fulfill them. We did a couple of live joint podcasts together, one at the Ice House and another at the La Jolla Comedy Store and a third at the Main Comedy Store. And I think at least the first two are both available on the Plus Bonus page in video form. And both were kind of dominated by Eddie Bravo. And I didn't even really say much. But live shows at those specific venues I consider to be pretty huge. Comedy fans know that the Ice House is the oldest comedy club in the country running for over 60 years. And I got to do a show there. And, of course, the Comedy Store is legendary. We did that one in La Jolla. And then we did another one during COVID at the main L.A. location. And the audience had to stay out in the parking lot. And we did it through a PA system and a pane of glass, basically the window. But I count it. And then on another occasion, Sam interviewed me for, I think, another sideshow he was doing in the Comedy Store Basement. And that was fun. The sponsor was a weed vape company. And they literally gave out weed and vapes to anyone who was there. So it was just fun for me. When I was still in the Southern California area, I got to play in those waters more than some people who were on their fifth year of open mics wishing that they had those kind of opportunities. I kind of realized that that type of live show is not really the best venue for me. But Sam put them together. It was really effortless. And I even did stand-up at one of them. And I'm just forever grateful. So it has felt a little awkward that I haven't brought him on here having him done so much for me. But like I said, I just feel better going into two hours with a lot of written material to pull from. And we did get through the first hour talking about current events and the Trump administration's big moves in the 5D chessboard, USAID, which I thought was super interesting to hear called out by John Perkins way back when. We got into the tech roligarchy and all that. And I have noticed something interesting. When the left was all about open borders and DEI, if you had any criticisms of that, they'd gaslight you and call you a racist, transphobic, or anti-immigration. Really shitty deflection and gaslighting. But now that's happening with the current administration as they clear out all this waste by giving Elon access to every possible digital system and database in the federal government. And if you say, hey, wait a second, I don't know if this is how it should be done. Then they gaslight you and say, oh, so you want these programs? What are you, one of the grifters? It's very telling that you have any complaints. Maybe we should look into you. But the reality is that you gave Silicon Valley all this access and who knows what can happen. Will X become a payments platform like has been rumored? Will we wake up one day and hear an announcement that every American citizen has an X account attached to their social security number because he has all that info? Will he maybe say, hey, if you want those Doge refund checks, just sign up through X and we'll send it right to you. You know, if you voice any of those concerns, they frame it like you're against clearing out the corruption and waste itself. It's not right. As Catherine Austin Fitz has said, they're getting all the credit for removing the old outdated tools of Empire, but replacing them with the new streamlined digital tools of Empire. An example is RFK getting pharmaceutical ads off TV. Isn't it a bit too late for that? Who watches TV anymore? The damage is done and the boomers are already captured. So why not wind it down and make it seem like you did something big? Anyway, then in the second hour, more behind closed doors, because I really didn't want all this stuff we talked about to just be out there. I spent a lot more time asking Sam about the conspiracy comedy overlap, which is not going to be everyone's cup of tea. But I think people who are fans of both will probably like hearing Sam talk about the privileged backgrounds of some of his peers and just how many have those kind of backgrounds. And I'm actually a big fan of Theo Vaughn and Shane Gillis. No shade towards them. I like those guys more so than some of the others mentioned. So it's not to say anybody is a bad guy or not talented. To me, it's not really about talent. It's about talent plus opportunity. And when you look into some of these backgrounds, you start to wonder if that's part of the opportunity part. I guess for me, being an outsider, a lot of comedians and comic actors have these personas that they're lazy or just goofing around and got lucky. But then you find that not to really be true. It's kind of a character. You look at the backgrounds and a lot of them did go to big universities, signed early to major talent agencies, have these family connections. And not very much of it is actually organic. For me, as a real college dropout from the Midwest, thinking I could just work hard, be funny, and it would come together for me, I sort of felt like I was tricked. Conan O'Brien wasn't just a zany writer who ended up posting late night. He's a Harvard graduate who worked really, really hard at this. Even Seth Rogen presented as a lazy stoner that I could resonate with in those early days. But he was a frat guy who graduated from the University of Vermont. Not exactly prestigious, but a frat guy who actually graduated, who was probably cast in Judd Apatow's projects because they're both Jewish? Hmm. It's not like I'm really bitter or jealous or anything because I'm so lucky to have what I have where I can just work from home on my own time, pick my own guests, never need an agent or a manager or any of that shit, never have to deal with advertisers. And yet I still do as well as I do. But it's more like a lot of us never gave any thought to some lofty dream of being an athlete because we're not athletic. That's self-evident. So, okay, well, if regular people don't have a chance at these other things either because we don't have these lesser talked about but required components like being connected or getting picked up early from a top agency, then just let real stoner dropouts know so we can stop thinking about it and move on to something else. Anyway, I know this one is really just for the crossover audience, and I just hope that crossover is sizable. As always, if you liked the first hour, you're only here and half the show. Treat yourself, become a Plus member, and all your wildest dreams will come true. 700 plus shows in the archive, all well edited and ad-free. In today's second hour, that is where we got into some of the Super Bowl symbolism. We talked about sports rigging and sports betting with the numerology that some of the guests we've had talk about so often. Sam got into LeBron and the Boulay Society. We talked about Shane Gillis, Bud Light, and the CIA. Shout out to Spade from War Mode. I mean, that string of connections is very wild. Still, you know, get the bag. Use what you got. And then we talked a little bit about Nick Kroll and Brian Callen as examples. And again, I don't really care about the sexual stuff with Brian Callen. I care more about the fact that his dad is CFR, and he does a lot of political commentary in the podcast world. And then I asked about some of Sam's beefs and dramas with his previous podcast guests. We all have them. I would have wanted that to be a little less rapid fire, but it just came up too late in the show. Still, managing the occasional exaggerated ego is part of hosting a podcast, even a fringe conspiracy one. And in higher side news, doing what we do, looking back at the last episode rating, Alana Freeland. Hmm. I was nervous about this one, and rightfully so. A 3.9. Ouch. Anything under a 4 from the plus people is pretty rough on our scale. 4.5, really. But I saw this low rating coming. I like Alana's work. I read a 500-page book for this one, and I tried to get into the material, but her answers were mostly personal anecdotes. She dedicated the book to Billy the Harp Man Hayes, so I asked about him and his contributions to the field, and she told us a story about how she thought he was in love with her, and he got too close. I don't know. It was just, again, not really related to his contributions to the field. Or, for example, the smart dust kind of stuff, as her book lays out, they have developed it at this or that university, there are patents, there are quotes from the inventors. But if you're going to say this stuff is actively in use, being sprayed all over us right now, being breathed in, and converting us to cyborgs as we speak, okay, I'm in. But how can we verify some of that? Because something being invented and something being actively sprayed in our barely breathable air is much different. And she basically said, well, if you don't already know, then I can't help you. If you would rather watch a football game, then I don't have any sympathy for you. Americans don't know how to think, et cetera, et cetera. And it just kind of felt like avoiding the question, though I acknowledge it's not easy to verify something that you also can't see. But is there not a place where we can test the soil or the air? You would think a person in Alana's position with her contacts would set up a place, set up a website, where anyone can send samples of their dirt to be tested specifically for this stuff. You can't go to a conventional lab. They don't even know to test for this stuff. But Alana's well-educated. She knows what they're doing. So, okay, how do I know if I have this on my land, in my environment? Someone could actually set up quite a good little business doing that. But at least with chemical fog, it's something you can see, smell, and taste. Or we had that time when people were lighting snow on fire. I know weird stuff goes on. I'm way past chemtrails. But I guess what I don't like is this. Well, you're fucked. It's everywhere already. And there's nothing you can do but be afraid and be defeated. I mean, I'm okay with hearing that. But first, I'd like to verify that it's true. And I just felt like we came up a little short in that department. So, no shade at what Alana has accomplished. And the research she's done, the books she's written, are super impressive. I could never do it. But I just think we failed to connect in that particular interview. And clearly, people recognized it. The good news, though, is that the next one on deck is pretty fucking wild. And I think it will be really well-liked. It's sort of like a better, more information-rich Donald Marshall episode, if you can believe it. So, be awake. Be ready. And as we do, let's go over the meetup calendar. HigherSideMeetups.com, where listeners have an opportunity to make events and meet other listeners and expand their local network over a mutual interest in weird stuff. Events on deck are... Today, actually, February 22nd, Portland, Oregon hops on tap. March 3rd, Rico's Public House in Pullman, Washington. And Saturday, March 8th, the Trails Cafe in LA. March 31st, Gail Brath's Ale House in Auckland, New Zealand. And that's it. A little light this next month and a half. But if you hear about one near you, go to HigherSideMeetups.com to RSVP or make your own event. It's super easy. They're always free. And why the hell not? And I also have to remind you about the THC RuneSoup joint event in High Springs, Florida on March 8th. Come hang out with me and Gordon White and listen to a live podcast that is a little more in the tone and tenor of what I'm good at. And it's also free. And based on the RSVPs so far, it's going to be pretty sizable. We're almost up to 100 already, and it's still weeks away. Not bad for an event two hours away from any major city. There you have it. That is the show today. Thanks to Sam for being a bro. Hope you guys had a good time. I really like the song that I spit out for this one, too. But I've done my part. Your move. PayPal, Mafia, Broligarchy, USAID, Deceivers, and Demonic Lizard People Leaders. Your fucking move. Are you the only one awake in your whole damn town? Does geoengineering have you coughing up your lungs? 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