The Pentagon's UFO Debunker Is Lying. We Can Prove It.

Summary

George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell accuse former AARO director Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick of lying in his latest attempt to debunk claims that Lockheed Martin once stored and analyzed recovered alien craft and nearly transferred leftover material to Robert Bigelow's ASAP program. They argue that multiple insiders, including Jay Stratton in his new book, corroborate the deal and that Kirkpatrick should be called before Congress under oath to back up his own allegations. The hosts also discuss newly released AATIP files on the Tic Tac incident and Skinwalker Ranch, including a 'monster map' of creature sightings, and defend David Grusch's claim that he viewed crash-retrieval footage in an official capacity.

Key takeaways

• 1Jay Stratton's new book claims former Lockheed VP James Ryder (died 2018, retired 2011) said Lockheed at one point held 12 alien discs for storage and analysis
• 2The hosts allege CIA Science & Technology head Glenn Gaffney blocked a deal to transfer leftover Lockheed material to Bigelow Aerospace and the DIA's ASAP program
• 3Kirkpatrick claims an unnamed legislative staffer pressured him to funnel millions in AARO funds to UFO-related companies, which the hosts call fabricated
• 4A reported $10 million facility at Pax River was allegedly planned to house non-human technology, and Rep. Burchett reportedly visited a related facility
• 5The seventh 'Pursue' government release included AATIP/ASAP documents, among them a Tic Tac engineering analysis and a Skinwalker Ranch report with a 'monster map' of creature sightings
• 6Corbell asserts David Grusch viewed body-cam footage of a crash retrieval while acting in an official government capacity

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Transcript excerpt

Rhyager had said, "Yeah, we had at least one point we had 12 of these discs, these alien vehicles." Kirkpatrick says among other things he looked into this. He reached out to somebody at Lockheed who's in charge of their technology division. That person said, "Oh, no, this is not true." James Rhyager died in 2018. He retired from Lockheed in 2011. He was not around to tell this new guy, the new tech guy, about any of this stuff. It was very hush-hush. It's just complete nonsense and he has certain media outlets and people, journalists, that he will speak through. And I think our audience can go look at that. Who has direct quotes from Kirkpatrick consistently? There's a few of them. Go take a look. Are they trustworthy journalists or are they just mouthpieces and puppets for Kirkpatrick, who by the way is a mouthpiece for someone else? And if you find the hardware, you can ask about the pilots and there's probably programs that have studied the pilots, the biologics. Not just UFOs, but beings, creatures that essentially don't exist, should not be seen. No, David Grusch is not just going on Rogan and saying wild Like it was it was just I shouldn't be seeing it. That's the response that I get from people who claim, and I believe them, that they've seen footage of beings. This is Weaponized. I'm George Knapp here in Las Vegas joined by my friend and colleague Jeremy Corbell in points unknown. Jeremy, you know, it used to be you could kind of keep up with UFO UAP news, read a MUFON Journal once a month and you're there. You can't keep up with it anymore. This has been a pretty busy week, correct? ...

Excerpt from Weaponized, Oct 31, 2026. Rights remain with the original creators. Hear the full episode at the source.