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UFO Black Sites Named, New Evidence Coming Soon & More

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That UFO PodcastJul 25, 2025
Disclosure & Government SecrecyUFOs & UAP

Summary

This episode covers the latest happenings in the UFO community, featuring key insights from notable commentators. Highlights include interviews and new evidence regarding UFO sightings and government interactions. The discussion revolves around the increasing transparency and interest in unexplained aerial phenomena.

Key takeaways

  • 1Corbell reveals new locations of UFO interest
  • 2Dustin Slaughter is presenting new evidence on UFOs
  • 3Diana Pasulka discusses her interview with the New York Times
  • 4Tim Phillips from AARO briefs skeptics on recent developments
  • 5Under Secretary of the Air Force shares personal UFO experiences
  • 6Upcoming guests and future discussions in the UFO realm

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But a lot of UFO news has happened. I was going to be releasing an interview today with Karen Alexander, UK-based crop circle researcher, but Karen's a little bit under the weather. So we've moved that interview to next week, and I've got a whole load of interviews booked in for the coming week. I've not done an interview now for a couple of weeks, which isn't like me. But I'll tell you who's coming on at the end of this news roundup. So please stay tuned. And if you are on the YouTube channel, you'll see I'm trying to spice up a little bit. You'll see some pictures and whatnot to my right as I speak. So yeah, I'm trying to make things a little bit more jazzy. But bear with me, it, very much like me, is a work in progress, folks. And if you're on the audio feeds, nothing should really change other than me explaining crap like that. But yeah, a lot's happened in the last couple of days. And again, these are a wonderful chance shows like this for me to let you know some of the main news I'm seeing coming out and is going to be discussed on upcoming shows in the coming weeks. So if you've got any interest in anything you hear me talk about here, drop me a message, drop me a question. Use the contact form on thatufopodcast.com or drop over an email to ufouapam at gmail.com. So anyway, folks, let's get into the news because some really interesting stuff. And on this week's Weaponized with Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp, if you've not listened to it, please go check it out. The links for all those shows are in the description. I was really surprised to hear Jeremy Corbell throwing out the names and addresses of some places to look. And you know, in the past, we've heard David Grush and other whistleblowers say that there are objects, craft, bodies, organics, whatever you want to call it. Being kept at aerospace contractor locations and, you know, but they can't say the names and addresses of these places for obvious reasons. However, Jeremy Corbell just threw some out on the latest Weaponized. So really interestingly, he mentioned that Senator Rounds should go and look or ask to see Lockheed Martin's Plant B6 complex in Burbank, California, and also Northrop Grumman's Plant 42. So I did a little bit of digging and I'm just looking at these sites and what they are. So Lockheed Martin's Plant B6, also known as Block B6 at the Middle River Complex in Maryland. So this facility is located right next to Martin State Airport and has a long history tied to the old Glen L. Martin Company. That was a major player in aviation history that eventually became part of Lockheed Martin. Block B6 is part of a larger site made up of several parcels labelled A through A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I. Historically, this whole complex was used for aircraft assembly, testing, servicing, going all the way back to the 1930s. It's now owned by Lockheed Martin's real estate arm, LMC Properties, and it's undergoing environmental clean-up and remediation. Not a lot of public detail on what exactly goes on inside B6 as expected, but the lack of transparency, I suppose, again, adds to the intrigue and will add fuel to the fire of this conversation. Some researchers and others have flagged pale laces like B6 as a possible location tied to UAP-related programmes, and that's certainly what Jeremy Corbell's getting at, or at least legacy aerospace tech that could intersect with non-human technology. It fits the profile, folks. Old, secure, tied to military aerospace, and it's still under tight corporate control. Nothing concrete on this, but it's definitely one that will stay on the radar, I'm sure. And the other facility to look at is Northrop Grumman's Operations at Plant 42 in Palmdale, California. It's a U.S. Air Force-owned facility operated under a government contract north of Los Angeles, covering about 5,800 acres with millions of square feet of classified aerospace hangars and runway access. This is a big site. These aren't just a couple of buildings side by side. I'm going to get a picture of that one up. Sorry, that's the Northrop one, and there is Lockheed Martin if you're on the YouTube. So Northrop Grumman's site is really interesting. Historically, it dates back to the mid-1950s. Its roots go back further to World War II-era airfields. Today, it supports final assembly, modification, and flight testing of some of the most sensitive and secretive U.S. military aircraft, like the B-2 Spirit, B-21 Raider Bombers, Global Hawks, Triton UAVs, even suspect projects like the RQ-180. Don't know what that is, but again, just getting some of this off the internet, folks. Operating under GOCO rules, which is government-owned, contractor-operated, the facility is known for extremely tight classification protocols, especially around projects run by Northrop Grumman's stealth aircraft divisions. Hmm. Because of its technical capabilities, restricted access and history of advanced aircraft is something that's came up previously in UFO discussions. Researchers point to its black site testing zone and skunkworks hangers as potential locations tied to the phenomenon. Really, really intriguing. And I'm surprised Jeremy Corbell's thrown out these addresses, because this is something that really has been, even with folks who have wanted to talk about the UFO phenomenon, they've stopped short of saying exact locations. And Corbell just came out and said it. Surely taking a risk here, but, you know, I imagine it's planned or at least been well thought through. I can't imagine the stuff of interest is being kept in these places once it's been made public, because why would they? Or is it kept so secret, so secure, so safe? Is it so far underground, perhaps, and out the way that it doesn't need to be moved or can't be moved? What I can only imagine is going to get a follow-up in the coming weeks. So I'll look forward to that. Slightly related, again, on Weaponised, you'll see on the picture there, folks, Dustin Slaughter, who is someone I like to follow on social media. He previously was on Weaponised, has managed to bring forward information, the video from the Mosul orb, where previously we only had a picture of the potential orb. We then saw a video footage, which Justin managed to get a hold of when he essentially moved to sue the Air Force if they withheld his FOIA request for UAP footage. Dustin, hopefully, is going to be on with me in the near future to talk about his work. But a new piece of evidence, Jeremy Corbella said, is coming forward through Dustin. That could drop this evening. It could drop tomorrow. But they said it was coming very, very soon, any day now. So please keep an eye out on social media for that as to what that may be. A new piece of the puzzle, perhaps. And I do wonder, when we talk about pieces of the puzzle, and I've spoken before that we've got this 500 or 1,000-piece jigsaw in front of us with lots of bits of it missing, I sometimes wonder, is it more the case that we're doing this big jigsaw, but actually, as we go along, the jigsaw changes and the initial picture that you try to put together isn't what you started with anymore. A bit of an evolving jigsaw along the way. So I look forward to seeing what Dustin brings forward, especially when he's going at this from a legal perspective. And that's something one of my guests will be very, very handy to talk about. So do hang about for that at the end of the show as well. Best of luck to Dustin bringing that new evidence forward. Diana Pasulka, folks, has just had a fascinating interview. And if you're interested in the intersection of UFOs, religion, and consciousness, then don't miss Ross. I think it's Dutat's recent interview in the New York Times' Interesting Times podcast. And a few high-level takeaways from me, folks, from this interview, which has got a lot of folks chatting online. People have been really complimentary, particularly of Diana Pasulka. She is wonderful. Diana, I was very grateful, wrote the foreword to my forthcoming book. I may have mentioned a few times, folks. Link in the description to pre-order, of course. Diana, so essentially she draws connections, powerful connections, as she does between historic religious visions and modern UFO encounters, talking about orbs of light, angelic beings, and transformative experiences. Again, these may be conversations you have heard people like myself have with Diana, or a Jesse Michaels, a Joe Rogan disclosure team, engaging the phenomenon, other UFO podcasts and YouTube channels, having those conversations on a regular basis. Interesting Times, New York Times podcast and YouTube show isn't having those on a regular basis. So a lot of these things are quite new. She talks about UFOs maybe fueling a new decentralized form of spirituality. No priests, no doctrine, just experiencers sharing contact and meaning online. She talks about speaking to insiders from aerospace and intelligence, some claiming, you know, the visited crash sites or studied non-human materials. We have heard this, folks. Others in the public have not. So really intriguing to hear that spoken about on a different platform. Again, similar to Gary Nolan last week speaking on Jordan Peterson's platform, that's something that I know a lot of folks aren't into Jordan Peterson. Many are. He gets views into the millions. That's not a platform that hosts UFO topic regularly at all. So again, great to see stuff like that happening still. She talks about the hitchhiker effect and used the poltergeist word in there as well, kind of two plus two equals four. And also she says the confusion around disclosure may be deliberate, a strategy to keep the public off balance. So yeah, it's a really rich, thought-provoking conversation, folks. The host will likely split, folks, depending on where you land on the UFO topic. I think some folks in the comments section on their YouTube channel have said he asked really tough questions and questions people like myself may not ask or may not think to ask, given our bias or what we're interested in. And any good interviewer should do that. And I always try to. Others have said he hasn't done his homework. He came across as arrogant. It's all opinion, folks. But please go and check that one out if you get a chance this weekend or into the new week. Diana Pasulka is always worth your time. Again, it's the Interesting Times podcast. And I'll put the link in the description for that as well. Moving on, Tim Phillips, the former deputy director of Arrow, admitted on the American Road Warrior podcast that Arrow had brought skeptics in to be briefed with their scientists, not the skeptics' own scientists, the Arrow scientists. And he mentions the scientists felt intimidated by the UFO community. Really strange comments to be made. And it seems a really odd move to bring in UFO skeptics for a briefing. No names have been mentioned. Of course, many folks such as a Mick West has been mentioned online. But there's nothing to say Mick has or hasn't, at least at the time of recording, been involved in this. It's a crazy move for me and only adds fuel to the fire. This, for me, is a little bit like in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory when Slugworth is going around whispering in the ears of all the naughty kids trying to get them to give up their secrets. You know, is Arrow doing that to the naughty kids or, as we perceive them, the skeptics and the debunkers online to encourage them to show their true colors, to encourage them to keep digging? I don't know. Is it disinformation? Is it a double bluff? Is it plain and simple to try and keep them, giving them power, moving them forward, egging them on to keep doing what they're doing? Strange, strange move for me. And I'll be going over this and more in the breakdown shows over the next couple of weeks. Pavel from the Seco Activo podcast will be back on with me in the near future. Incredibly popular appearance when I had him on recently. So good to speak to him again. So things like this with Tim Phillips we'll be discussing. And similarly, another government appointment to talk about. I'm going to butcher the surname here, but this was quite new. I've just seen Matthew Lommier, who is the new undersecretary of the Air Force and a former Space Force lieutenant colonel, has previously stated that UFOs may be plasma-based intelligences possibly connected to spiritual entities described in religious texts. And he's also recounted personal experiences with glowing orbs in the mountains of Arizona as a teenager. One of his comments from the previous interview he's done was, this ball of light got close enough for me to look at it and into it and seemed to be buzzing with life. But it wasn't man-made. It was very well-organized, very spherical, and it seemed to be very conscious of the two of us, like it was observing us. So yeah, there's another government appointee who is coming out and talking about the UFO topic, or happy to talk about the UFO topic. And I found that really, really intriguing, folks. So lots of little tidbits and news items there to get your teeth sucked into over the coming days. From early next week, I'm going to get into some guests I've got, but I would love if you hear this now or watch this in the coming days. Send me over any questions, you've got any queries or opinion, and I can fit those into a multitude of shows coming up in the next week or so. And on that, like I say, first off, Karen Alexander was due to join me discussing Crop Circles today. I'm doing this show instead in its place. Karen is going to join me again next week now, towards the end of July. I've got that interview ready and prepared. A whole flood of questions come in. Crop Circles are a fascinating topic. But if you want to add anything, please use the website contact form over at thatufopodcast.com or email ufouapam at gmail.com. Other guests coming up, folks. I'm now speaking early next week on the 29th of July with attorney Ivan Hanel, who I'm looking forward to discussing a lot of the current disclosure landscape with from a legal perspective, especially the hearings, the delay, the previous hearings, what we can expect, how far whistleblowers can go. Ivan is also the lawyer for Luis Elizondo. So some interesting work is being done on his behalf there. I'm sure that's one people will want me to bring up. So any questions you've got, folks, send them in. You know what to do. I've got James Hodgkins also joining me later next week. That's an interview you might not hear till the following week. He's coming on, and among many things, he is a member of Skywatcher's Psyonix team. So a whole lot to dig into around Psyonix, non-human intelligence communication and consciousness. So really excited for that one. So get your questions in as early as possible, please, for James Hodgkins. I've got a few other guests in the pipeline, including one who has a whole lot of insight into the Nazca mummy situation, someone who's been to see them himself. So, again, that's going to be coming up real soon. I'm just waiting to book in a date and some other guests I should have coming up in the month of August, too. So I appreciate, folks. It's been a few weeks now, like I say, without an interview, but getting back on track. So please get your questions and thoughts over, especially if you've never been in touch. Always good to hear from new voices and also to hear from the older voices, too. With more of these frequent news roundups and breakdowns due, any and all thoughts, opinions, questions are very, very welcome. And thank you to everyone who's sent stuff in already. If you're on the YouTube channel, you'll see I've started adding some more aesthetics in with some pictures and stuff. Bear with me. Like I say, it's a work in progress with my own video skills, my editing. I'm getting there, and I'm working it around life and all that kind of stuff as well. But if you're on any platform, make sure in YouTube you're liking, you're subscribing, you're leaving a comment. It makes a huge difference. It really, really does. And if you're on audio platforms, like and subscribe on Spotify, Apple, all that kind of stuff. And please leave a review if you haven't. Again, take a few seconds to do that now. It makes a massive difference to podcasters like myself. What a wanky phrase that is, folks. I'm very aware a podcaster like myself. And I appreciate the nice comments on the latest breakdowns, thumbnail, the sphere and loathing parody. I'll see what else I can come up with, folks. But like I said before, I'm trying to do some things that aren't the stock thumbnail look, but also not the shocking paint by numbers. A lot of, and loads of folk use it now. The biggest channels in the world use them. I hate that whole shocking top five, can you believe, bombshell. Well, not my thing, not my style. So I'm trying to do something a little bit different. So any ideas you've got, please run them past me and I'll see what I can do. Finally, make sure you click on the link on screen or in the description, folks. And check out my new book for Atlas of UFOs being released mid-September. So not long to go now. Very exciting, very daunting prospect to have a book released. 34 cases from around the world of UFOs. And I'll have another little update show on that soon with some teasers of what's inside the book. I promise the team that's worked on it has put together a wonderful book. And it'll be great for those new and old to the topic. A real genuine UFO coffee table book. You can leave it in your toilet if you want, but I wouldn't recommend using the pages to wipe your arse because they are wonderfully good quality paper. And those will leave cuts, folks. So, yeah, one for the coffee table, I promise you. Anyways, enough from me. That is your roundup for this week. Enjoy your day. Enjoy your night, your week, your weekend. Whatever you're doing, wherever you're doing it. Unless, of course, you're at a Coldplay concert. Speak soon, folks. Thanks for listening.

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