Wayne McRoy Jr. | The 2025 System Language, Synchromystic Metadata, & The Alchemical Tech Revolution
FS 6The Higherside ChatsMar 5, 2025
Summary
In this episode, Wayne McRoy Jr. explores the concept of the 2025 System Language and its implications for society. He discusses the intersection of synchromystic metadata and how it could influence our understanding and interaction with technology. McRoy argues that we are on the brink of an alchemical revolution through advancements in tech and communication.
Key takeaways
- 12025 System Language and its potential effects on human perception
- 2Synchromystic metadata as a framework for understanding connections
- 3The idea of an alchemical tech revolution
- 4Exploration of how language shapes reality and consciousness
- 5Predictions about future technology and societal shifts
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Sure, we have an ever-connected computer in our pocket with the ability to access the culmination of cultivated knowledge and endless entertainment options at any moment. But by many metrics, this hasn't been a good contributor to health or happiness. Our digital connections have left more people reporting loneliness, depression, and anxiety than ever. The direct link to the media machine's psychological operations has mainstreamed and individualized MKUltra techniques. The EMF signals and blue light emitting from the nonstop screen usage increasingly damage our mitochondrial function and scramble our circadian rhythm. And countless precious hours of our limited lives meant for exploring physicality are reduced to a hypnotic vegetative state. And given all of this, it's occasionally worth reassessing our relationship to this technology and consciously deciding where we want to draw the line for ourselves. Because the data-harvesting behaviorists, technocrats are working every day to remove any line at all. Well, when you get in sync with the work of today's returning guest, Wayne McRoy Jr., you can't help but consider these things, as he's been beating the technocratic transhumanist drum for many years now. And his work only seems to be getting more important with each passing one of them. He's the author of books like The Alchemical Tech Revolution, Fulfilling Ancient Esoteric Agendas Through the Use of High Technology, The Autism Epidemic, Transhumanism's Dirty Little Secret, Autism, AI, and the Singularity, Digitizing Human Consciousness, and several others. All can be found at alchemicaltechrevolution.com, including his long-running podcast of the same name, his new podcast with Richard Willett titled The Synchromistic Podcast, and his sub-stack, The Alchemical Beacon. The work never ends, people, and I'm happy to be talking to him again, reading the synchromistic metadata and the symbolic tea leaves of our times, the technocratic critic, autism insight giver, and occult agenda illuminator, Wayne. Welcome back. Thanks, Greg. I'm always humbled by your introductions. Much appreciated. Of course. And it's a pleasure to talk to you again. I think back to our last interview pretty often because I still get negative feedback from it when it comes to one big thorny thing. Every couple of months, a person will say, I liked your show until I found episodes in the archive of you demeaning autistic people. We are not part of some transhumanist agenda. We're not AI people. We're not people without souls. And this kind of content is dangerous and hurtful. And I'm of two minds because I don't want to demean anyone. I don't want to marginalize anybody or have marginalized people feel like THC is dunking on them. But I have to explore these ideas because I do think people like yourself make a compelling case that a lot of these things are related and we are being engineered. And I try to respond by saying, look, we're all being targeted by something. Many people have chronic illness or have been convinced to take psychiatric drugs or can't stop their addictions. So I wouldn't want autistic people to feel singled out because there's a lot of attack vectors out there. But even Whitley Strieber got in hot water last week saying that human hybrids are nonverbal autistic. And the way I see it, it's actually more unifying to talk about all the various challenges and the ways they're coming at humanity. What say you? Well, I don't want people to misunderstand my intention by pointing out these direct connections between transhumanism and autism. It's certainly the data actually susses out what I've been saying here. It's an engineered condition and it is engineered towards this advent of transhumanism or the post-human era. When you look at all the evidence, the compelling evidence behind it. So I'm not trying to single people out or point at these people and say there's something wrong with them or something like that. We've all been under attack by this technocratic machine. And that's the whole point here. I'm trying to point out that just because you may have this condition, for lack of better terms, or this diagnosis, doesn't mean that you're subhuman somehow or something like that. That's not what I'm trying to say at all. What I am saying is there is a group behind the scenes that has been engineering these conditions, these physiological conditions within the human body. For a good long time now. And we're seeing the culmination of that in the advent and the rise in the cases of autism and some of these other types of conditions in this world. And certainly the data shows that there's something going on with this. I mean, you don't have this enormous jump in the numbers over the course of several decades like this without having something in the background going on. So that's one of the things. And I get some feedback from people about that at times, too. I'm not attacking people. I'm not demeaning people or diminishing their importance by any means. I have children who have autism. So this is a hugely and massively personal type of a topic for me to cover. So I'm coming at this from the perspective I have years and years and years of experience dealing with this condition and the ins and outs of everything that goes along with it. So certainly the intention was not to give people this type of an impression about it, although it is a sensitive topic. And I acknowledge that it is very sensitive, but certainly the existence of the link to transhumanism is present. Whether you want to accept that or not, I can't tell you what to make of that information. You can make of it what you want, but it certainly is there and it's present. And we can see some of the occult underpinnings behind it as well. And that's where I've focused a lot of my attention in recent years is back on the occult principles behind a lot of it, because that is always at the back end of everything. In all of my research through the years, I've found you always invariably land in two places. Anytime you touch any type of these conspiratorial type topics, as they would label them, you always invariably land in one of two places or both. And it's usually both. Number one, you always land at the occult. In the ancient past, going back to the mystery schools and way back in antiquity, you always find the occult angle to everything. And number two, you always arrive at the culmination of all of this stuff in the advent of the transhumanist singularity. And they always seem to connect. And that is the big grand conspiracy going on in the world today. So these things are just symptoms of that greater agenda going on in this world. So not to lose anybody on some of the details. Well said. And I hesitated to even bring it up because the people who aren't triggered by it totally understand. And the people who are triggered by it probably aren't going to be receptive to the explanation. You could say there's an analogy to obesity, like obesity isn't healthy. Obesity often comes from the products made by industrialized food. And it's a thorny thing to say, hey, it's a suboptimal condition. No one wants to feel like a victim of an operation. But it's just like, look, there's many different ways that the human being has been altered or made suboptimal to a degree, I guess. Because every word you use is like really thorny, but they've been pushing this neurodivergent term. And I hear a lot of people I never thought would say that people in their 30s and 40s saying, well, I'm neurodivergent. And it's like, I've known you your whole life. I don't know where you're adopting this from. That is a term that means autistic. You are not autistic, I don't think. And it's just really muddy in the waters. It's kind of almost promoted as like a gift. And when you look at the lens and the language used, it's like clearly something is going on. It's increasing. And yet no one really seems to want to do anything about it. You know, that's the thing. Clearly, it's desired by someone. And if I think about your overarching arguments that scientism and technology are vehicles for occult projects to change us, I won't say dehumanize us, but alter us, it makes sense. And whatever causes autism, whether it's the shots alone or a combination of factors, including processed foods and glyphosate, you can broadly say it's new technologies and food and medicine made with the left hand that engineer us to be more compatible with the digital technologies they're making with the right hand. I take my kids out to a theme park or even just to dinner, and I see other kids with big headphones on, locked into a screen, isolated from the world around them and their own family, because without those things, they would be freaking out. And in the middle of a theme park, they prefer a digital world to what's going on around them. And it just fits together with the transhumanist thing. I've heard you use the quote, transhumanism is just eugenics without coercion, which is pretty spot on. And you've been talking about this stuff since at least 2017. Now it's trendy and in vogue post-COVID, but it really wasn't in 2017. No, and it's hard to get through to people. Most people, you say, I tell them, what do you do for a living? I tell them, oh, I'm a podcast host and an author. Oh, well, what do you talk about? Transhumanism. What's that? Most people have never even heard of this. Like, how do you get through to somebody? How do you explain a topic of such depth and detail to somebody in a very short conversation? You don't. And that's the problem. They have to go looking for it and realize it themselves. So it's very hard to have a conversation with somebody about that. Their eyes kind of glaze over and the fluoride stare comes back. So we encounter this kind of thing. And I've been talking about this for a long time, even prior to the COVID thing. But one positive side effect of the whole COVID scandemic they pulled off is that people now are more receptive to this type of information. And by the way, I'm not the one that coined that phrase about transhumanism is eugenics without coercion. That comes from a pro-transhumanist YouTube channel called Transhumania. They have like a four and a half hour documentary on there where I think it's about 20 some minutes in. They actually put this up on the screen and explain what transhumanism is. And they describe it as transhumanism is eugenics without coercion. So I'm not the one that originated that. This comes from pro-transhumanists. So I find that kind of a mindset very concerning, don't you? Yeah, yeah. Very bold to endorse eugenics these days. At least find a roundabout way to do so. But to switch gears a little bit, it's funny that I asked you to do this without even knowing you started a new podcast called The Synchromistic. Because I am kind of obsessed with that approach to conspiracy research. You're only a few episodes in, I think. But to quote a recent post of yours, New Year, New Zeitgeist, decoding the synchromistic metadata of the New Orleans event. And you write, well, they're doing it again. They've laid out the program motif for 2025 right here on the very first day of the new year. They've shifted the focus away from Eastern ideas as the template back towards Middle Eastern, or some could say Egyptian or Arabic motifs. For those with the eyes to see, they have revealed the cipher to translate their language of symbology that is put out in plain sight, telling you what the system language is to interpret their symbols. In the case of the year 2023, that cipher was the moon rabbit, indicating the use of Chinese and Eastern mythological motifs as the system language for properly interpreting programic cues. For 2025, the cipher is the Egyptian goddess Isis and the invocation of the crescent moon in connection to her. This indicates that the system language is Egyptian, Arabic, and or Jewish Middle Eastern mythological motifs. What exactly is going on here? You say the devil's in the details. Well, let's talk about the details. Elaborate on this premise and the examples that we see that help people make this connection between symbolism in events and a cipher or a system language that they're going to be using to program the culture for a given year. Well, I've been spending the better part of my adult life trying to reverse engineer this hidden communication system of these dark occultists who run things at the top of the power structure. And this is one of the things that I've delved heavily into. I've noticed some observational details about certain times of year, certain events. Of course, they use different timing on the calendar to introduce a new type of communication cipher. I use the term cipher, probably the best way to elaborate on that. But this is falling back on a concept many people would know as either twilight language or predictive programming in the conspiratorial community or more commonly called by those who delve into these things, revelation of the method or some such thing. But what this falls back on is actually what the Freemasons refer to as the green language, which is also known as the language of the birds. And there's a whole thing I've done on the Super Bowl this year about that. The green language and the language of the birds, the green bird. But we'll touch on that a little later, maybe. But it's also known as the phonetic Kabbalah. There's many different names for this. And what this is, is this goes back to the etymological roots of words and terms to convey meaning. And oftentimes they use symbolism from the various mythologies from around the world. So what I've discovered through the course of time is based upon the time of year and sometimes the position of certain celestial objects in the sky. They will use that as an introductory time to introduce a new programming language or motif. So this year I had noticed, of course, you don't have to be a genius to pick this stuff out. It just takes a little practice. You'll notice these symbols crop up over and over again. Well, this year it was the crescent moon. Look where everything happened on January 1st. The new year, the start of the new year, 1-1, the evilest of numbers, 11, of course, according to Crowley. And they use this as the signal for the new programming language. So what they've done is they've shifted gears and they've applied this and they told you what mythological system that will be used. And, of course, the guy who allegedly plowed through all these people in New Orleans, he had an ISIS flag on the back of his truck. Well, ISIS, of course, is that Egyptian goddess of magic. So that's telling us right there in the outset, this is the programming language to look for. This is the mythological archetypes that we're looking at, the Egyptian system. So that tells me to look for that symbolism inherent in some of the major events that turn up in the news cycle. Because this is a hidden form of communication and this is a type of hidden programming language. And I would argue that a lot of this goes beyond just human intelligence, that there's some non-human intelligence that may guide or direct this at a certain point. And this leans into the more spiritual avenue of things. And that's why it's important to see this. So what I've done is I've tried to reverse engineer this and break this down into a system that I call synchromystic metadata. Now, there's many people that talk about the synchromystic cues. And I know like Chris Knowles and people like that are very good at pointing out some of the symbology and stuff present in all of that. But what I'm trying to do is establish a simple system where people could see this metadata out there in the ether. And what am I referring to? I like to use the technological term because I think it's something we all relate to in the modern era. We understand the concept of metadata. Well, there exists this greater information field all around us. I like to refer to it as the zeitgeist, which means spirit of the time because there's a spiritual component to it. But a lot of people from different walks of life agree that this information field exists. They just disagree on what to call it. Some call it the quantum information field. Some call it the Akashic record. Some would call it genetic memory or epigenetic memory. And there are archetypes present therein. Some call it the archetypal world. Now, when you look at some of these seemingly disconnected bits of information out there that resonate in this information field, you could begin to connect the dots in certain ways and see things happening, especially if you understand the mythological archetype that's being invoked at the time. And I know some of this seems to be a bridge too far for a lot of people to accept. But I've spent years delving into this and trying to piece this together. And I've actually used this synchromystic metadata to make certain predictions. And one of those things that I've centered around for the past three years has been the Super Bowl or the Superb Owl, if you want to break it down in that way, the language of the birds once again. And I've been pretty spot on and accurate with my predictions based upon that. And that's only basing it on this synchromystic metadata that I see out there in the field. So, just as a proof of concept, I use that. And it's definitely something we need to be mindful of because whether or not you consciously accept this or realize this, these archetypes will have an inherent effect on your unconscious mind, which will, through the subconscious mind, manifest in conscious behavior change. Now, this is what these engineers, these social engineers and these dark occultists who run things in this world understand very well when they leverage a lot of these principles against us. And if we don't understand how it works or even acknowledge that there is such a concept that can work, then we are totally ignorant of all of it and are greater affected by it. And that's the whole premise behind this. So, what I'm trying to do is try to give people tools to be able to decipher some of this stuff themselves. In order to be able to know what's going on in the background. Yes, I love it. And to give you a little credit on some of these details, the guy who had the ISIS flag in New Orleans, you also mentioned New Orleans is known as Crescent City. So, you got the ISIS and the moon that is encoded in a few other areas. But then, if you go back to 9-11, the biggest ritual of our time, everybody talks about it being a Masonic ritual of bringing down the two pillars into one, bringing down the two towers into one. And a weird detail of this thing that happened on the first was we had these two situations where someone rented cars from Turo. And I was like, man, who did Turo piss off? Because this is some bad PR for them. It just seemed odd. They could have gotten these cars from anywhere. They were both electric vehicles, too, which I just thought was another detail that seemed intentional. But you actually solved this piece of it for me. Because you say the company Turo, well, if you look at the etymology of Turo, it means tower or rook, the game piece. So, two rentals from Turo, two towers. I mean, there it is. So, it's basically like invoking that same 9-11 energy in that event. So, I thought that was a pretty damn good hit. And then you mentioned the Super Bowl. So, we were going to do this a few weeks ago. And I planned to ask you about the Super Bowl. And I had to cancel it and reschedule. Now the Super Bowl has happened. Well, just to quote your substack, giving you some credit for this call, you say, you'll notice that the color scheme is red and green, which seems to have pre-echoed the teams that are playing. The Florida Lee symbol is present, not only representing the city of New Orleans, but also representing the sovereignty of some new ruler, a Caesar, if you will. And it's hosted at the Caesar's Superdome in New Orleans. And Trump was the first sitting president to ever attend the event. So, that is kind of all in the soup. That fits. And then you say, based upon the synchromistic metadata that I've seen out in the greater information field, I would predict that the Eagles will win, likely with a 9 or 11 point margin and or with the Gematria values of the final score encoding 9-11. For example, my best guess here would be the Eagles winning with a score of 38 to 27. Well, not exactly what happened, but the Eagles did win 40 to 22. I mean, the first number is off by 2. The second number is off by 5. Pretty damn close. Well, not only that, if you look, I was absolutely correct because the point margin between 40 and 22 is 18. So, not only did they encode the 9 in the Gematric value in there in the difference in the point spread, but they also encoded softly the 6-6-6 idea with the number 18. 6 plus 6 plus 6 being 18. So, they always with these numbers. And sometimes they encode things more heavily than I would expect because it seems they've gotten very hubristic in recent years with how flagrantly they flaunt stuff now. So, the number 22 was prominently featured there, of course. And of course, that's the number of the master builder in Freemasonry. And people will always say, oh, well, that's a coincidence. Well, how many coincidences do you need to see? Like, let's use this as an example, okay? So, there's Kansas City lost with a score of 22. There's the number 22 one time encoded there. Well, likewise, one of the players, I forget his name, on the Eagles intercepted a pass and scored a touchdown on that interception during that game. And they mentioned on air that he was celebrating his 22nd birthday on the day of the Super Bowl. And what a great present that was for him to score a touchdown then. Now, many people will scoff at that and say that's a coincidence. By the way, that player's number was number 33 as well. So, 33 is also an important number to these people in these occult groups. So, we have all of that stuff encoded in there as well. And it's always like that with many of these events. And I didn't even touch on the Kendrick Lamar halftime show bit. There's so much caught up in that. I don't even think I'm going to touch that yet. I'm just going to wait and see how that plays out. Because there's a lot of people talking about that. But I saw so many different things in there that line up with some of the things that I've read in the information field. So, perhaps I'll do a Substack article on that sometime soon. I got a lot on my plate, though. But at any rate. So, they always like to use the numbers. But that's only one facet of all of this. Now, of course, the other thing, especially with the Super Bowl, is the eagle as a symbol. Well, Trump has unofficially adopted the eagle as a symbol. And, of course, if you know anything about empire in history, they always use the symbol of the eagle with everything. And, of course, this is supposed to resonate a new energy in America where things are coming back. You know, we're making America great again. And we're making America healthy again. Maha. As in Maha Bone. With the whole Freemasonic thing. And if anybody knows about this stuff, they know what I'm talking about. So, what's Maha Bone? I've heard you, in passing, reference that before. I've heard that Maha is witch in Latin. And he's always going on about being on a witch hunt. You know, they're witch hunting him. It's like a Maha hunt. I mean, the terms are both there. He's using the term and what it means. So, it's interesting. But what is Maha Bone? I have heard you say that. That's actually one of the code words in Freemasonry that they'll identify each other with to tell what their initiation level is within the Freemasons. So, that's one of the hidden words when they give the secret handshake and they whisper in each other's ears. That's one of the code words they'll give each other. Maha Bone. And Maha, make America healthy again. You'd think some of these slogans that they pick are random. They're really not. But there's always a hidden occult meaning behind it. And, of course, Maha represents Magi, the Magi. So, yeah, I mean, you're talking about magic, high ritual magic in conjunction with all of that. And a lot of people overlook this stuff because we've been indoctrinated to think of that stuff as nonsense in the modern era. They hand us this carte blanche scientism with everything. They think science is the end all be all of everything and it discredits all of this stuff. But when you delve back to the roots of all of it, you always find that all it does is reinforce these ideas that you would call either magic or alchemy or things like that. These are the old, old natural sciences that were known by ancient peoples. And the ideas thereof have been carried forward in secret by many of these occult fraternities behind the scenes for centuries untold. And they've taken and twisted and distorted some of these things through the course of time and inverted them and applied them for their own corrupt gains in this world. And that's wherein we need to understand, like a lot of this stuff is not inherently evil unto itself. It's a tool like anything else, and it could be used or misused. The problem is in the control structure of this world, it's largely been misused against the masses. It's largely been leveraged against the masses and misused and misapplied and abused. And a lot of it's been hidden because they don't want you to actually understand or know the tools they use to control you. And that's where a lot of this synchromystic metadata comes in. Right, right. I like to say magic is basically benign. It's just part of our system. And they have taken this tool and weaponized it. It's really not much more complicated than that. It's not bad in and of itself. They have used a tool for kind of putting the masses in a trance and solidifying power. And who knows all the real effects that it has, but clearly it puts us in some kind of trance state, hence the term twilight language. Is there anything in the system language for this year that would suggest an awful lot of plane crashes? Because, man, it just seems like every day I look at the Twitter news and here's another plane crash of some kind. And it was very weird to see Tanya Harding start a Twitter account the day a bunch of figure skaters died in a plane crash. And, yeah, you could say coincidence, fine. But what's weird, what makes me realize it's not a coincidence is why do I even know Tanya Harding started up a damn Twitter? Like, the reason I know is because it bubbled up artificially through the zeitgeist. And she just puts out this video. Hey, I'm here. Welcome to my new followers. And then her very next post is, I'm very sorry to hear about the tragic plane crash of all these figure skaters. It's just like people make Twitters every day, especially D-level celebrities. And I shouldn't know about it, but it was presented to me through the algorithms. What do you think about either that or just the amount of plane crashes we're having so far? We might be up to 10 or a dozen, and it's only mid-February. There has been an awful lot of that, and I've been watching that very closely because I did notice that, and I've been pointing that out to my wife even. So it's in the news cycle constantly. It seems like almost every other day now there's some kind of a major plane crash or an event with an airplane. Now, what does this have to do with this synchromystic details in all of this? Well, it's very hard to suss out, but we could see the pre-echoings of this back in December and early January with all of the mystery drone sightings in New Jersey and other places. So all of this stuff has been introduced to the human mind in this time, that there's going to be action and activity in the sky on unprecedented levels coming in. Of course, we've seen that, and there's always this notion of UFO disclosure and everything that goes along with it. And they did come out and say, oh, well, now we know, even though they didn't say before, but now we know that these drones, this drone activity, well, the FAA knew about it and they approved it. And what these are is our research drones. They didn't tell you any more details. What were they researching? Well, I think it was all a grand experiment to get people used to the idea of having these spy platforms in the sky, watching them all the time and getting used to seeing this stuff. And maybe there's a little bit of disclosure involved with that, with what you would call anti-gravitic technologies and things of that nature, perhaps coming out soon, too. But a lot of it, I think, has to do with people understanding the presence of these lights in the sky and that perhaps they're there for some type of a reason, some type of a national security reason that they must be present. And they're not being forthright with a lot of this. So they have these things out there. And now we're seeing all these weird plane crashes. Well, I don't know if you've delved too heavily into this mystery drone thing. This is just another branding of the UFO phenomenon. First, they tried to rebrand it as UAP. And now they rebranded it as mystery drones. And of course, they use the term mystery because that invokes an archetype in the human mind. Think back to the mystery schools. This is invoking that twilight language methodology into the whole conversation with it. So they don't want you to completely understand what it is that they have up there or what's going on up there, first of all. And they don't want it to ever resolve because that's the thing about a mystery. They don't want the mystery to ever resolve because if it does fully resolve, then they lose that frame point for influencing human behavior. They like to use these things to keep people questioning about the true nature of these things and not really disclosing what the true nature is because nine times out of 10, there's some nefarious purpose there. Now, what I've found in researching these mystery drones is there are quite a few videos out there that have surfaced online of some of these mystery drones. And some of them, they've been described as being the size of an SUV or a school bus. So this is not just a standard hobbyist out there with a drone. OK, these are military technologies. And what I've discovered is many of these videos, they fit the description of what's given for something called as a loitering munition. Have you heard of loitering munitions? I have not. Well, that's a military term. And I would just go ahead and urge listeners to go and Google that. And you'll find what I'm talking about. What this is, is this is a combination surveillance platform that has strike capabilities and can be weaponized. So maybe it could say bring down airplanes or target things on the ground or start fires. Now, I'm not suggesting that that's what's going on, but I just find it compelling that we have that out there in the zeitgeist, in the greater information field just prior to all these airplane crashes now. So they're gearing up for something with this. And when I say they, I don't know who's actually guiding and directing this. I suspect that it's some beyond human intelligence or presence that guides and directs things externally to those within the high echelons of many of these secret society groups and occult fraternities that are at the topmost levels of the power structure in this world. And guide and direct those people beneath them who institute policies in this world. And this would be the distinction between these. This is how I try to describe it. OK, because like I said, I've been spending the better part of my adult life trying to reverse engineer a lot of this. So it seems to me that at the topmost levels of the power structure in this world, you have what I call the dark occultists who run things. And just beneath them, they have their useful idiot minions that they call the technocrats that run things. Now, this would consist of your committee of 300 and other various organizations and people that really set policy in this world using philanthropic organizations and private corporation and governance structures. And there's certainly a difference between governance and government. Now, government would be the official face or scapegoat agency that is supposed to be running things. But behind the scenes, governance is more important. And it's largely these philanthropic organizations and think tank groups that do that. And these all interrelate and interconnect to this committee of 300 and the representatives thereof and that type of a social class. Those that consider themselves the, quote unquote, elite of this world, the controllers. And they often refer to themselves as the Olympians because there's always the occult connection there. Just as much as I would like that to not be the case. It's always present every time. Yeah. And if you go back to the Egyptians or the Greeks, they thought that a lot of thought comes from the upper realms. So it wouldn't be weird at all to say there's a small group of people who still think that. And work really hard to maintain that connection to certain beings in the upper realms. And that's where the ideas come from. It might be where a lot of our ideas come from. We're just ignorant of it. So in terms of current events, so far the Trump administration seems to be moving at lightning speed. I think they're trying to overwhelm the reporting and blast through as much as they can before the legal challenges and impeachments can even start. But the big scary thing, I think, is Project Stargate. What a name, right? I don't know if we have a lot to go on in terms of details yet, but what are your thoughts on what we know so far? It seems to be what you wrote about in the alchemical tech revolution. This is really a capstone event for that project you've been warning about for so long. And the name Stargate, it's like a lot of researchers connect demonic entities and AI, and now you have Stargate, Starlink. Are they really basically building a big digital opening in our world for dark things to come through? I used to think this was a little over the top when we did our first interview or when I interviewed Anthony Patch a couple of times. Now it's like happening. It's just crazy. Yeah, there's a lot to unpack here. Now, in order to understand what they're trying to do with this whole project, Stargate AI, we have to define a couple of terms. And we have to identify a little bit of what it is that is taught within this secret doctrine behind the scenes, within these secret schools, these mystery schools, and these dark occult fraternities and other places. And in order to understand that, you need to understand that there are spiritual realms that exist all around us. And oftentimes they will leverage these types of ideas and this type of information in certain ways. What do they mean by Stargate? Well, in many of these old occult belief systems, they would say that after you have been illumined and you've risen to these high levels and you've gone to what they say, crossing the abyss, then you are elevated to the place of the stars. You become one of the thousand points of light. And have we heard that politically spoken of? The thousand points of light. This is the polishing, the rough-hewn stone, if you want to go to the Freemasonic language with this. It's all about the achievement of this apotheosis of sorts, and that you will ascend to the stars and you will be represented as a star in the sky. And it is said that many of these stars and these luminaries we see in the sky are the representation of spiritual entities or spiritual intelligences out there. So what is the Stargate? Now, another thing you need to understand is these spiritual realms that exist all around us, that interpenetrate with this. There is a gateway between these worlds. And what is this gateway? Well, it's the human being. The human being is the Stargate, the gateway between worlds, the vehicle through which some type of a spiritual intelligence can manifest. So when you begin to understand that and you understand the cosmology that is taught within this secret doctrine across the various occult fraternities, and I've gone through a lot of painstaking research through a lot of the belief systems and the things that they teach throughout a lot of these different occult fraternities and where the commonalities lie. So the Rosicrucians, they teach about stuff like this, of course, theosophy teaches about stuff like this, hermeticism. All of these various schools have some of these common principles that they teach and they touch on. So with the human being being the gateway between worlds, we are the literal Stargate. So what does this infer? This infers that perhaps the whole point is to create some type of a new avenue for some of these spiritual intelligences to step through. And that is why all of the fear mongering about AI. Now, bear with me on this, because like I said, a lot of this stuff sometimes is a bridge too far for people who are new to these types of subjects. Here's the thing. AI, we've been warned for years and years by people like Elon Musk that AI left unchecked can be a major problem and can potentially destroy humanity. So what do we have as a solution to this? Well, the only solution for this is to merge with the AI and become the post-human. So that's the ideal that they've put out there into the greater information field for people. That's why they want us to merge with the AI. That's why they've engineered things like your cell phone as a cybernetic extension of yourself. And some will argue we're already cyborgs in that regard. Even people like Ray Kurzweil, who's made these types of predictions. And now we're seeing more and more invasive technologies being placed inside the human body, further tying us to this Internet of Things and the subsystem thereof called the Internet of Thoughts. And if people think that's a bridge too far and that's a fiction, there are white papers out there you can read about the Internet of Thoughts. This is Minority Report, that movie, on steroids with a lot of this. So it's all about tying people into this AI grid and making this type of Borg mentality with all of it. And let me just jump in here because I heard you talk about Nick Bostrom and Anders Sandberg publishing a roadmap for whole brain emulation in 2008. What I love about your podcast that people would enjoy is you really just read these documents from the technocrats and then, you know, obviously stop and comment on parts. But it's basically a lot like an audio book of just very selected pieces that are relevant to the big conspiracy. And this idea of a whole brain emulation, this idea that you're going to take a human mind and put it in a machine and now you have eternal life. We've heard this forever. However, I don't even think conceptually it can be done, just like you would say, like the mind is a spiritual thing. It's a consciousness thing. It's not a computer in the brain that can just be taken out and put into another type of computer. So I was thinking about that and I just cannot imagine that they don't know this. Like they obviously have to know this. So I don't know why they play dumb or pretend to be atheists that think that we're just a machine, a biological machine. We're just going to make it a digital machine. But what is interesting is just with the introductory states of AI, it's already fooling people. We're interacting with people on social media all the time that are just bots and people get in debates with bots and then it ruins their day and they're angry. It's like that wasn't a human being. And there are people now having relationships with AI. They know it's a computer. They know it's an algorithm, but they just don't care because it's good enough, better than being lonely. It's a strange time. And I started thinking about this and it's like, I wonder if we get into an area. This could be like a Black Mirror episode where people are about to die and they say, oh, we've transferred their consciousness into a machine and it's not them. It's just an AI trained on everything we know about them, their writing, their job, everything, all the data that can be collected about a person, which they're collecting that data. And you feed it into an AI and then you say, oh, that's your loved one. And for the low, low cost of $500 a month, you could have a subscription to keep them alive and they're just going to be there. And it's not real. So, I mean, that's what I think. I don't think they're actually trying to transfer a human mind because I think they know it can't be done. But this kind of thing, it could fool a lot of people, especially grieving people. Right. And that's why they're very blunt about it. And they tell you that transhumanism is eugenics without coercion because that's the same conclusion I came to, Greg. When I look at this stuff, I mean, we do have people in this world that legitimately do not believe in a God or believe in a creator or believe in anything spiritual. And this is largely part of the social engineering that's gone on. They want us to believe in what I would call rightly scientism or what they would call the science. What they want us to accept is that all phenomena in this world could be explained away by some cause and effect sequence here in this physical material paradigm, this material world that we live in. And therefore, things like consciousness can be explained away as nothing more than the byproduct of the electrochemical activity of the brain and brainstem. So if that's true, therefore, they could produce an algorithm that duplicates that. And therefore, they can duplicate your consciousness in a machine. Well, here's the problem. Is that the true ontological self? Is that the I am within man? I don't believe so. That's not the soul. That's not the spirit. It's a cheap knockoff. It's a physical reproduction of that. But it will be sophisticated enough at some time to convince enough people that their relatives that have died have gone. Gone on to immortality in the machine, living in the machine. And they'll see this as being a ticket to immortality. And all this is in actuality is the great calling in disguise. And I know that sounds very harsh, but I suspect that to be the truth. I mean, they tell you blatantly out there. If you listen to them, transhumanism is eugenics without coercion. They're telling you. And this is something that is always ever present with these people, too. They have to tell you what they're going to do. And then what you do with that, how you react to that is on you. They use that as a tool to elicit your tacit consent to having that dundee. If you see it out there in the entertainment media or something and don't have any objection to that, well, they see that as your tacit consent. Right. And so many people are already opting for a digital life, so to speak, and not living the actual life. Just think of it like you're in a boardroom with a pie chart and how much of active engagement in life is going on versus how much is just digital engagement. Sitting there in a vegetative state, neck down, your body's not moving, you're just in this digital world. That piece of the pie chart is increasing more and more. That's what they're trying to do is waste more of your real life with digital life. Well, yeah, imagine a scenario where it's not just people on their deathbed, but just people opting in to, I just want to be my avatar. Kill me. Go ahead. If it was sophisticated enough, there'd be no one to verify, oh, that's not my friend, John. That is just a cheap copy. Because if it could be good enough, you would think, well, John just pulled the plug on himself. He euthanized himself. And he's now in the computer living a digital life. But that was his choice, you know, because we're already like tiptoeing towards more of our regular life being digital. It's only one degree away to be like, no, let's just unplug the real life and plug in the digital life. And only the person who's going through a death process would know that that wasn't really what happened. I mean, they could probably pull that off for a while because, man, people are just so dumb. But in your podcast episode I was referencing, the new one you have about Project Stargate, they talk about individualized cancer mRNA vaccines. I mean, we know about that. It's so weird to say we're going to use AI blood tests. We're going to make a vaccine against the future cancers that you're predisposed to within 24 hours. That is not how cancer works, I don't think. Largely, it's a toxicity thing. So what if I decide to start smoking cigarettes after you do the blood test? What if I start eating a bunch of seed oils after? A lot of it's environmental. So how can you predict? It's just a big mess. But I wanted you to comment on that. And also, Larry Ellison, ex-CIA, created a database for these companies in the 90s, worked for Oracle, third richest man. In 2001, after 9-11, he got caught insider trading and offered the government technology. He donated software to the government to enable them to run a national database and issue ID cards in 2001. One, what's Larry Ellison up to today? And what are your thoughts on some of these other little details we have about what this program really includes? Well, it's hard to say for sure what all it includes. What it is, is it's a massive data collection operation. And they do have the infrastructure in place right now to have millions of data points on every single person that there is that interacts with this system. So eventually, what the hope is of these controllers is they want to get people on a system wherein we switch to a completely digital currency. And, of course, this always points to that very minute control of people down to the last detail with things. That's where they're going. And they've rolled out some soft forms of this system in places like China where they've instituted some of this. And it's not completely digital yet. But once they do that, then they'll have people right where they want them. They'll have the most loss of human freedom in the history of the world will become manifest at that point when we switch to an all digital money system. Right now, we have fiat currency. Well, this will be fiat fiat currency. At any rate, that's what they want to do. They want to digitize everything. They want everything centralized in this one central database, this utility, which will likely be based on blockchain technology. So there's no information lost. And there's a digital record, a digital ledger that tracks and traces every human activity from cradle to grave. And this manifests as things like right now what we're seeing where they're trying to tank the economy through hyperinflation and through all of this illicit spending that's been going on, trying to break Western cultures in this way. So therefore, when people can no longer afford to eat, they'll be crying out for a solution to this. Well, what's the solution? Here we go. We will give you X amount of dollars per month so that you can afford to live. And it will be in the form of digital money, programmable digital money. So you could only use this money to buy certain things. Now, we have an operational system, a prototype of this already in place here in the United States. It's called Food Stamps. Are you familiar with the Food Stamps program? Yeah, yeah. They give you this card. And it has X amount of dollars they give you every month. And you could use it to buy certain items. And if you don't use it for those items, well, it doesn't work. It only works for those programmed items. So this is a type of programmable digital currency. Now, when they introduce this idea as what they will call universal basic income, they will have this caveat. You could use it to pay your credit card bills or you could use it to pay for rent or utilities or for food or for essentials. And anything else you try to use it for, it won't work. So therefore, if we think, you know, you're a little on the pudgy side and you're eating too much, well, you've gone past your calorie limit. We'll shut off the funds for that. You won't be able to buy that. If you are a smoker, you won't be able to use any of that universal basic income money to buy those cigarettes because they're not healthy. And they will have this type of control over people to the point where this programmable digital currency will actually have an expiration date on it, too. Remember, they told us you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. So this is what they want. They don't want people to be able to accumulate savings of any sort. So that's one of the key features to this programmable digital currency is it will have an expiration date. So therefore, if you don't use it by a certain date, you lose it. It disappears out of your account. Now, this will be directly applied to your bank account. Through which also all of your digital records will be attached. Everything from your biometric ID, your genetic ID, your medical information and your social credit score, which, by the way, the infrastructure for which already exists here in the United States, but they haven't rolled it out publicly yet. So once this comes online, then if you speak out and you say something they don't like, well, until you remove that post from your Facebook page, you'll be locked out of your account. Or perhaps if your social credit score drops too low, you won't be able to, say, travel on an airplane or anything like that or access certain goods or services in your community. Or maybe you will be restricted to how far away from your home you can travel or they could shut off your electric car with a kill switch button, which will be there in order to punish you for lowering your social credit score. And the Chinese have a system of this already established. And that's the compelling part that's really concerning with a lot of this. So it may sound like bad science fiction to some people, but they have the policy papers and stuff in play. And they've actually modeled some of this in the real world already. And they have the infrastructure in place to do so. It's just a matter of getting the people to accept the digital currency that goes along with it. And that's a really good summary. I think this audience has heard this and been hearing it for years. I think we're clued in, but you're getting this from reading these documents. They write the stuff. We talked about Nick Bostrom's roadmap for a whole brain emulation in 2008. So, yeah, there's long arcs on this stuff. And it seems like they're going to do something with XRP. XRP is getting in bed with the government. They just launched their own stable coin. I know a little bit about the crypto world. I think what they're going to do is try to prop up the dollar with XRP, Bitcoin, and this stable coin. And then when people get used to the stable coin being a one-to-one equivalent to a dollar, and they get rid of more and more cash, well, then you just have your stable coin. It's the same thing. And now you're in. And it seems that's the direction it's going. When we have these conversations, first off, you never know how far they're going to get. We can talk about their plans. We don't know how far the actual plan will be implemented. But then second, it's like, what can we really do about it on the large scale? We can't do anything. We can't stop OpenAI from being a company and doing its thing. We can't stop a half a trillion dollar Stargate project. It's going to be scary when city infrastructure is run by AI, but try to get off city infrastructure, I guess. That's my question to you is, on an individual basis, when we look at the world around us, our friends and family, and they don't see this, or they don't even, if they do see it, they aren't concerned about it. How can we separate ourselves from it, be less of a victim of it, if there is any way? Well, essentially, what we can do. Now, one of the big things to stab off here would be the advent of this digital currency. So use cash. And I know it's fiat currency, but it's a physical means of exchange. We need to maintain that physical means of exchange because many people have discovered through the course of natural disasters within the past year or so. Digital money or credit cards don't do you a bit of good if there's no power on. You can't do business then. You can't exchange anything. So you need a physical means of exchange. Cash is king. So if you have cash in that type of a situation, yes, businesses can still function and give you the goods that you need for that cash. So we need to maybe buy local and use cash in our transactions. That's one common sense thing we can do to stab off a lot of this because the digital currency is a central pillar to this entire AI control grid. So if we can stab that off and stick with a physical means of exchange, we'll be far better off. Secondly, I would say it's good to establish skills for yourself, maybe know how to grow a garden and have some backup food supply, like three weeks of food storage is plenty in case of an emergency. Now, I don't foresee a situation wherein we will be without power for months and months or years and years and we need to live totally off grid. I don't think that's a realistic assessment because there's still greedy corporations that want to make money and if you don't have your electricity on and you're not paying your electric bill, why would you bother to pay it if you don't have the service? Well, they're going to go out of business real fast. So they're going to try and do what they can to get back in business real quick. So I don't see a situation wherein there will be power outages for any extended length of time over a very large geographic area at a time. So I know there's been a lot of people that have predicted that they're going to bring down the power grid and stuff like that. Right. Or the internet, cyber pandemics. But I agree with you. They have to want us invested in this. They have to make us think that this is all safe. It could never go away. If you start pulling it, like we're already getting woken up to the EV cars. You know, they don't really run in the winter. They burn forever if they catch fire. A lot of problems with them and people are backing off. So, yeah, you're not going to let the grid go down or the internet go down yet, maybe in 20 years, 10 years. But like people aren't bought in enough yet. I agree with you. And I would say they wouldn't even be interested in doing that for any length of time because think of it this way. The electric grid goes down. The internet goes down. Their surveillance system goes down. They don't know what you're doing then. They have a vested interest in tracking your every activity 24-7. So, if they don't have that infrastructure in place and that's not operating, they don't know what you're doing and they don't like that. They like to have total and absolute control over you. So, it is not in their best interest to do any long-term type of taking down of the power grid or the internet or any such thing. They want you fully vested in that because their intention is they're trying to build an artificial digital world, a digital substructure to this reality. And this applies to an occult concept. And maybe we'll get into that on the second hour here. They're trying to actually re-engineer the entirety of reality, not just the human being themselves. So, this is an important concept we need to understand here too. But at any rate, it is not in their best interests if they want this total control and they want to be godlike for their systems to be gone and down for any length of time because then they lose track of what the masses are doing. And that creates a dangerous situation for them, especially if those masses of people are disenfranchised from the things they've done. So, it's not in their best interest to do so. And I don't think that's a realistic expectation for people. But certainly, we do have these concerns and we need to take this stuff seriously. So, as far as things we could do to kind of help ourselves to be less dependent on all of this is have some skills, have some basic food supplies, maybe have your own garden, grow your own food, know how to can food, prepare. It doesn't hurt to be prepared. And I would say one of the more common sense and easy things we could do, use cash, buy local. That helps. Yes, yes. I agree. Yeah. Back to basics, it seems. And man, it is about that time. Crazy that it's been so long, but almost every aspect of transhumanism that you would have talked about then has increased now. And we didn't even know about COVID. And then mRNA technology and getting under the hood of the human body. Autism's increasing. The food is more synthetic than ever. The therapy pipeline has people on all these drugs that are really screwing up their emotional states and their thought processes. LA was recently destroyed to make room for smart LA 2.0. The trans thing has increased a lot. Just so many aspects. And it is all technological. There's just no area where you can say, well, the technology hasn't made that worse in the last five years. And that's crazy. So you really do deserve some credit for being on it, having your finger on that pulse, and it is good to reconnect. I know you have a lot of different projects going on. Tell people where to keep tabs on what you're doing and when to expect that new book. I want to thank you once again, Greg, for having me on. It has been a while. But if people are interested in finding my work, go to www.alchemicaltechrevolution.com and you can find everything I do centralized on my website there. So I do appreciate it. And the new book should be forthcoming within the next couple of months. So I'm hoping to have that out sometime very soon. But like everything else, a lot of these ideas are very hard to actually put to words. So that's the challenge that I face in doing that. Well, it seems super interesting. I like that it's going in some really unique areas tying into Tracy Twyman's work. And transhumanism is important. It is the big agenda for sure. But their arcs are so long that I think sometimes people are like, yeah, I've heard this. Yes, I agree. That it's increasing. But I don't know if it's like fear porn sometimes. They're like, well, let's get on with it. Like, where is it? Where are the demons coming down through the AI Stargate? But it should be talked about because people need to be more aware. And how do we topple the plans? I think in some ways it's just so lofty. It probably won't be implemented to the degree they want it to be implemented. But also through education and just repeating this stuff because it is so ubiquitous in our life, the technology that you have to say, no, get away from things that aren't of the natural world. Just try to make your life centered around natural things, natural foods, sunlight, herbology instead of petro pills, all of it. And that's all we can do is kind of champion that and push people in that direction. But I appreciate all the work you've done. Thanks for doing the dance again with me and take care. You know, I'm you love him. He's Wayne McCroy Jr. Probably another long overdue return. Of course, I love that he's angling more into a synchromistic approach, which I don't think was in the mix the last time we talked, but he deserves some serious credit for sounding all the right alarms at a time that was so far ahead of most other people in the space. I say it's Wayne McCroy Jr. and Anthony Patch pretty much out in front. Now, if only Anthony Patch would answer my emails. But admittedly now, it is sort of hard to find guests that aren't solely focused on technocracy and transhumanism, but you got to give credit where credit's due for seeing these problems well in advance, way before they were trendy. And this is an episode I wish I could have got out sooner. We actually had to reschedule because I was too sick to record, which dated the material a couple of weeks. And then I wanted to get Gray Area Monarch out right away. So the order got a bit screwed up, but I thought he had some great breakdowns of events that we've seen so far in just the first 90 days of this year. He has an interesting methodology to trying to crack the symbolic code of a given year. And the explanation for Turo invoking the Two Towers motif again really stuck out to me as a good hit. And so much is happening so fast, it's really hard to stay on top of. But there is a technocratic thread that weaves through all the noise and all the new announcements that seems to be the important thing to focus on while the news coverage talks about plastic straws and the Gulf of America. There was actually another story that I heard about right after recording this, and that is the story about the Chinese programmer who burned 1.3 million in Ethereum and transferred out millions more trying to get a warning out about mind control. If you're unfamiliar with the crypto space, there are these null addresses. And if you send funds to those wallets, they are just gone forever and everyone can see that it happened. So this guy was clearly trying to get attention and I think also trying to prove he's not crazy because crazy people don't really have access to these kinds of funds that they can just burn. It also speaks to the direness of the warning and how desperate it seems like the guy is. But I'll just read the story from Cointelegraph. On February 17th, an Ether investor named Hu Lezhai transferred 500 Ethereum to a null address associated with token burn events. This unusual transfer of funds was flagged by crypto intelligence and trading platform Arkham. Further investigation from Cointelegraph found that he made 16 high value transactions to various addresses, including WikiLeaks donations, Ethereum foundation, and a few unlabeled and burn addresses. Each of the transactions contained on-chain messages in which Li Zhai claimed Chinese companies and entities were using brain computer weapons to persecute employees and turn their victims into, quote, puppets or complete slaves to the digital machine. So one of the exact quotes would be this. The CEOs of Kwande Investments, Fang Zing and Zhao Yuzhai, used brain computer weapons to persecute all company employees and former employees, and they themselves are even controlled. I mean, that's crazy. He's basically saying nobody is at the wheel. Even the people using brain computer interfaces against us are under the influence of these same weaponized computers. And this is a Chinese hedge fund. But to quote one of his other transactions, this guy says, there is a new mode of crime in which the victim is gradually deprived of his senses of desire until he becomes a complete slave to the digital machine. And if one day I become a victim of the final stage, I will leave this world. I mean, really insane. Probably the craziest story I can remember in a while. This is something that more people should be talking about. But then couple that with a new interview I heard from Dr. Jack Cruz, where he says that he knows of someone who was technologically manipulated into giving up his private keys for his own crypto portfolio. Some kind of digital influence was enacted. And this seems like it's going to happen more often. And it will sound so far out that a lot of regular people won't believe it. And I was also digging into the new crypto and AI czar. And I just thought it was an odd pairing, crypto and AI. Sure, both emerging technologies. But shouldn't crypto be more of a financial person? And aren't both of these areas large enough on their own to warrant their own person running point without them having to be an expert in both? Well, you guys probably know I'm not as down on crypto as other people are. I just keep it to myself because I know feelings are very mixed. But there are many, many problems with fiat that are solved with crypto or Bitcoin in particular. And I'm not going to go through the list. There are plenty of books about it. But it's nice to have a decentralized network of permissionless trust that can't print more and devalue itself. I think a lot of people who hate on crypto are losing sight of all the problems with the currency we've used our whole lives that has eroded everyone's access to multi-generational wealth and forced us to invest in the very companies destroying the world just to maintain the slightest bit of value. It really is the number one weapon used against the entire population because everyone's a victim because everyone uses money and it destroyed our fathers, our grandfathers and our entire family dynasties. Yes, even upper middle class, even just the ability to climb a few more rungs higher. You're constantly fighting that debasement. But whatever I say, Bitcoin fixes, I don't know, five or six problems with the current system and only creates like two new ones. So it is significantly better just to be able to transact in cash, a feature few even take advantage of is not at all a worthy trade-off compared to the debasement of the last several decades. But coming back to the crypto slash AI connection, the blockchain ledger system, I finally kind of realized, allows AI to transact without a human touch. It's hard to do that with the current system because it's so disorganized. Cash can be withdrawn from the network and then the AI management system would have no idea what happens to it. It would just kind of go dark. So for all the great qualities of crypto in the blockchain, one negative feels to me like this whole upgrade has some nice features for us. Yes, but the primary motivation is because it gives AI more agency and control over another system that's very crucial to the way we've structured our lives. It might be why the whole internet was invented, right? Because it's like an AI system can't go into a library and curate any of the information from the vast number of books in there with people taking books in and out and some getting retired or destroyed or sold at the book fair. There's too many variables and physical space makes it hard for an AI to operate. But you digitize every one of those books in the library and suddenly the AI can give you any and all information served to you however you want because it's all on-chain, so to speak. So onboarding us all to on-chain finances gives a digital watchdog authority to monitor and even transact within that system and none of the money ever goes dark and it is kind of scary. It's kind of like I said to Wayne, if they're doing Project Stargate, then it really doesn't matter what else they're doing. This is the tech bros building out the globalist dream network and it's the only thing they seem to be focused on and yet it's going pretty unnoticed. They are winding down the legacy systems like USAID, fine, good even, but should we really pat them on the back for winding down systems they don't really need when they're also implementing new streamlined control systems that we won't really even be able to wrap our heads around for several years. So yes, we should pay attention and I think should even passively resist by spending less time online, not carrying your phone everywhere, staying engaged with the physical world, friends and family, all that stuff. Lately, just for fun and to think of myself as opposition from the AI digital systems, I try to think of my time and attention and movements and thoughts and actions all as units like a computer system would and then I think at the end of the day, for example, how many of those units would be readable and processable to a digital system and then I try to lower that number more each day because the more you live your life online, the easier it is to build the digital prison without a lot of people even raising the alarm. It's like, well, I'm already sitting here on the concrete floor. Who cares if you build some bars around me? Oh, well, it's all coming regardless of how much we talk about it. But I enjoyed talking to Wayne again after so long. The first hour was great. The plus show got deeper into things like engineering the greater reality and processes to replace nature and the occult philosophy that drives the technocracy, geoengineering and the importance of Niobium, the disclosure agenda and the spiritual dimension to the alien archetype. What even is space? The cave of wonders and pseudo apocryphal texts. Tracy Twyman's work and the double cataclysm, the two Enochs, the land of nod and AI in the Bible. And Wayne even brought up the great cross of Hende hearkening back to the conversation I just had with Matthew J. Bell. I loved that. And then we talked about Project Enbridge and how gold backed currencies and the petrodollar relate to the Ukraine situation. And, you know, that's another thing. Trump wants these tariffs to work and wants to see more U.S. investment, which means he needs a weaker dollar. So I believe he's trying to get Jerome Powell on board to do what he wants and print a ton more money to weaken the dollar and further incentivize investment here, which is already happening. Every few days we have a new story about it. And that's another reason you should save in some form other than dollars, because we can see this happening. But do your own research. In fact, I heard about a novel that is called The Mandibles, a family, and it's about a family living through the years 2030 through like 2055 or whatever it is, basically a novel laying out the future and what a regular family will be doing trying to stay afloat through World War Three and the onboarding of all this tech stuff. I saw reviews that are mixed, but it comes highly recommended and it probably will be one of my next reads. So if you're interested in thinking about preparing, it's probably something worth folding in to your overall knowledge base. But again, do your own research and sign up for THC Plus if you want to get even more out of this show and our guests than you do with just the first hour. And big thanks to the Plus members. I appreciate you sticking with me. It makes my world go round and I never take this job for granted and I try to bring you good stuff in return. Again, March is so busy for me this year. I've preloaded my shows and I think, well, it's a mixed bag really, but a couple of them you're really going to like. But let's see what people thought of the last show with Andrew golf. I haven't even looked yet and if I was going to guess, I would say about a four point six. I think he will get docked a little for the flat earth stuff, but there was so much variety and I would say a lot to like. So that's my guess. And the reality is four point eight. Hell yeah. So glad the listeners agree that it was a good one. I would have guessed higher, but it seems like the ratings are getting a bit more critical overall, which doesn't bother me. I think it's just an attempt to get more nuance in the system and average THC, which is still likable, but nothing special should probably be an actual three. But we know rating systems always tend to skew upwards and then people think a four point five. Ew, why would I ever eat there? But either way, good rating. Happy to see it. I have felt a little off on my review expectations, but it is fun to guess. And I'll do that more often if I remember not to look. And of course, we got meetups to call out the next one on deck this Saturday. Come and meet me and Gordon White. Watch us do a live talk on the subject of conspiracy canon and how it's changed over time. High Springs Brewing. Or of course, you can get on the bus in the morning with me and Gordon, and it will take you to the event and back in the evening. And then we jumped to March 22nd, Elko, Nevada at the 7018 Brewery. Wednesday, March 26th, Bangers Bar and Pizza in Dove Creek, Colorado. Saturday, March 29th, Sydney, Australia, Chish and Phipps Kiosk. God, I hate that name, but I hope you guys have fun either way. And March 31st, Gail Brath's Ale House in Auckland, New Zealand. I like it. And that's about it. Oh, I also added the link to something we talked about, I think in the plus show, but I said I would, and you will see it there. And again, big thanks to Wayne. Check out the stuff he's always got going on. Tell him thanks if you enjoyed it and share it with some people. THC is an algorithmically challenged show, and that's more obvious than ever to me these days. But it's always been a word of mouth situation. So no big deal. But I do tend to forget to ask. Though it happens organically enough anyway, I am a very fortunate guy. And again, thanks for that and just for keeping me in your rotation. That's about it. I'm getting out of here. I've done my part. Your move, tech bro tyrants, digital control grid engineers, and Project Stargate implementers. Your fucking move. You can try your best, but you won't succeed. In the transhumanistic future we see. We'll keep you wired so you can't sleep. Black is a curse. It's just one chip behind your fin. And some parts below that we can't replace. Progress leaves no time to fix you. While you run in those loops of cat feed. Increase your work. People that first get it should have a massive advantage over people that don't have it yet. Well, I mean, it's the kind of thing where your productivity would improve, I don't know, dramatically, maybe like a factor of 10 with it. So you could definitely just, you know, take out a load and do it and earn the money back real fast. Yeah. It's going to be super smart. When do you think you're going to do it? How long will you wait?
