Glenn Gaffney
Referenced in 2 episodes
Definition
Former senior CIA science and technology official whom Lou Elizondo named in congressional testimony, and whom the hosts identify as the gatekeeper who blocked transfer of a legacy craft in 2009.
Related episodes
Jay Stratton’s FIRST-EVER Interview - Before The World Knew His Name
WeaponizedOct 21, 2026
George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell revisit Jay Stratton's first-ever on-camera interview from 2022, recorded years before he became the public face of UAP disclosure. Stratton, the only official known to have worked on AAWSAP, AATIP and the UAP Task Force, describes receiving the Gimbal and GoFast videos, sharing UAP data with defense contractors, and having three PhDs assess the USS Russell footage as a self-illuminating pyramid. The hosts also discuss Stratton's new book Out of the Shadows, his admission that he is 'Axelrod' from Skinwalkers at the Pentagon, the newly found AAWSAP files, and an alleged CIA block on Lockheed handing over crash materials.
Jay Stratton Steps Out of the Shadows
Need to Know (Coulthart/Zabel)Oct 19, 2026
Richard Dolan and Bryce Zabel review Jay Stratton's new book Out of the Shadows, which Dolan calls the most valuable insider account of the modern UFO disclosure effort. Stratton describes a 2009 briefing by Lockheed's Jim Ryder alleging CIA control of a crash retrieval legacy program, a real Roswell crash with non-human bodies, and 12 alien craft held by Lockheed, along with a failed attempt to transfer one bell-shaped craft to Bigelow's team. The hosts also weigh Stratton's accounts of intentional orbs and the Skinwalker Ranch hitchhiker effect harassing his family, and frame the whole saga as a factional war inside the Pentagon and intelligence community.