Trauma, Dreams, and Nightmares with Laurie Nadel (4K Reboot)

Summary

Psychologist and former CBS News journalist Dr. Laurie Nadel joins Jeffrey Mishlove to explore how trauma, chronic illness, and collective crisis shape our inner lives, from long-haul COVID to the turbulent events of early 2021. She argues that serious illness can become a 'sacred illness' that drives spiritual growth, and that the sleeping mind acts like a satellite dish picking up premonitions of catastrophe from the collective unconscious. Nadel describes patients who dreamed of 9/11 more than a year in advance and offers practical techniques for reprogramming nightmares.

Key takeaways

• 1Nadel burned out at CBS News while covering the Iran-Contra hearings, developed Epstein-Barr, and was bedridden for three years; she credits meditation and nutrition with her recovery
• 2The concept of 'sacred illness', an illness that transforms a person from the inside out, comes from author, poet, and therapist Deena Metzger
• 3Nadel claims hundreds of people reported dreams of planes hitting towers up to a year before 9/11, and some of her own patients dreamed of smoke over lower Manhattan 13 months before the attack
• 4A patient wept 'for all humanity' in her office on September 10, 2001, then contacted her 17 years later to warn of another coming catastrophe
• 5She cites the Schumann resonance and the Soviet 'Woodpecker' signal (claimed at 8.5 or 13 Hz) as electromagnetic influences on human agitation, including a claimed Seattle incident in which 100+ people had seizures
• 6She recommends programming dreams before sleep and refers to Carlos Castaneda's 'The Art of Dreaming' as a model for humanity to become 'shamanic dreamers'

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Transcript excerpt

We have a stigma against illness in this culture that goes back, I guess, probably centuries. You know, we worship healthy, athletic, attractive, active people. And there is a tendency when we become seriously ill to think of ourselves as failures and to feel ashamed because we can no longer be productive or active or do the things that we identify with as being part of who we are. And so the awareness that there may be a spiritual or that there can be a spiritual component of inner growth as a result of having had the lifestyle in the outer world suddenly taken away is something that gives a new sense of meaning and purpose to so many of our patients. Keep watching to learn more. New Thinking Allowed is presented by the California Institute for Human Science, a fully accredited university offering distant learning graduate degrees that focus on mind, body, and spirit. The topics that we cover here, we are particularly excited to announce new degrees emphasizing parapsychology and the paranormal. Visit their website at CIHS.edu. The New Thinking Allowed magazine issue 10 on UFOs and UAP is now ready for free download. And you can also order beautiful printed copies. Go to newthinkingallowed.org. Book 4 in the new Thinking Allowed dialogue series is Charles T. Tartt, Seventy Years of Exploring Consciousness and Parapsychology. Now available on Amazon. New Thinking Allowed. New Thinking Allowed. New Thinking Allowed. Conversations on the leading edge of knowledge and discovery with psychologist Jeffrey Mishlove. Hello and welcome. I'm Jeffrey Mishlove. Today, we'll be looking at trauma, dreams, and nightmares. My guest is Dr. Lori Nagdal, who is a psychologist as well as having had a career in journalism. ...

Excerpt from New Thinking Allowed, Oct 25, 2026. Rights remain with the original creators. Hear the full episode at the source.